
For decades the FDA has told Americans that generic drugs are absolutely identical to brand name medicines. Physicians, pharmacists and insurance companies reassure patients that a $4 generic prescription is the same as a brand name medicine that costs over $150 for the same number of pills.
The only problem is that some generic drugs are now skyrocketing in price for lack of competition. It is puzzling why so many generic drug manufacturers have stopped making certain products. It is almost as if the industry has divvied up the market.
The results are appalling. This is how we ended up with Martin Shkreli at Turing Pharmaceutical jacking up the price of one drug 5,000%. But he isn’t the only one. Other companies are also abusing the American public by raising generic drug prices into the stratosphere. Read more about this scandal at this link.
Give Us More Generic Drugs!
Congress is anxious to see the FDA approve more generic drugs faster. Our legislators want to save money on medicines. After all, federal programs like Medicare, Medicaid and the Veterans Administration spend a lot on prescription drugs.
Private and nonprofit hospitals also want to spend less on medicine. And of course insurance companies are desperate to get people taking cheaper generic medicine. No one seems to be concerned about quality.
Heck, we didn’t worry about quality either. Starting with our first book, The People’s Pharmacy (published in 1976), we told people that very same thing. For over 25 years we believed that the FDA was totally on top of both the approval and monitoring of generic drugs. We never even stopped to think about manufacturing problems. Of course in those days most generic drugs were made in the U.S.A That all has changed.
Where Your Generic Drugs Come From:
Now that 88 percent of all prescriptions are dispensed as generic medications, the quality of such drugs is more important than ever. But the vast majority of them now come from abroad, where FDA oversight has historically been dismal.
The active pharmaceutical ingredients (APIs) and the so-called inactive ingredients now come primarily from all over the world: Brazil, China, India, Mexico, Slovakia, Thailand, Turkey and goodness knows where else. Historically, the FDA hasn’t even known where all the chemicals in your medicine originated. There is no requirement to put country of origin on the drug label.
What the FDA has Found in India:
In the last few years, though, FDA inspectors have been active in India, where so many inexpensive generic drugs are manufactured for the American market. What they have found is frightening.
In just the last few weeks, the FDA reprimanded the Indian drug manufacturer Wockhardt for hiding unwelcome test results and deleting data. This is not the first time Wockhardt has run into trouble. Since April of last year the company has recalled hundreds of millions of tablets and capsules. They included popular blood pressure medicines such as amlodipine and lisinopril as well as the antibiotic azithromycin and the sleeping pill zolpidem.
Wockhardt is not the only Indian pharmaceutical firm to run afoul of the FDA. Other Indian companies that have received warning letters over the last several months include Aurobindo, Dr. Reddy’s Laboratories, IPCA and Sun Pharmaceutical Industries.
Ranbaxy Laboratories, one of the largest of the Indian generic pharmaceutical firms, has had multiple run-ins with the U.S. Food and Drug Administration. A few years ago this company pleaded guilty to felony charges after being accused of falsifying data. The company paid $500 million in fines.
An interesting note on the Ranbaxy mess: Sun Pharmaceuticals of India acquired Ranbaxy for $3.2 billion last year, making Sun Pharma India’s biggest drug company. Sun has itself come under FDA scrutiny. A Bloomberg report noted that Sun Pharma employees had faked test results.
How Many Companies Have Run Into Trouble?
Over the last five years the FDA has banned products from 44 different Indian drug-making facilities. That should give insurance companies some cause for alarm when they insist that their customers must use generic rather than brand name drugs.
What About China?
India is not the only place that is coming under increased scrutiny by the FDA. For years, the agency only had a few inspectors on the ground in China. Now that there are more, they are discovering shortcomings in Chinese plants too.
Warning letters have been sent to a number of companies in recent months. Even brand name companies have been tainted. Pfizer’s Chinese partner, Zhejiang Hisun, was accused of systemic problems associated with “data manipulation.”
That is a sanitized way of saying employees were cooking the books and violating the rules of good manufacturing practices. Customers had been complaining about drugs not measuring up to standards between 2012 and 2014.
What Should You Do?
Patients are the ultimate customers of foreign-made pharmaceuticals. We have been receiving complaints about generic drugs that do not work as well as their brand name counterparts for more than a decade:
Problems with Generic Prilosec for Reflux:
We have been hearing about this particular problem for years:
Kathi in Milwaukee:
“I became so ill after my pharmacy plan switched me to generic omeprazole that my MD ordered an endoscopy to make sure I did not have esophageal cancer. I was sick for almost 3 months, and am still having issues almost a year later.”
Linda in Los Angeles:
“I have been taking Prilosec by AstraZenca for 20 years and have had no GERD problems at all. As of November 1, 2015, I was advised by my pharmacy that I would now have to take a generic. I have taken a generic omeprazole (20mg) for 40 days now, and it is NOT the same. I am burping all the time and have reflux and choking, something I never had with the brand name Prilosec. I am fortunate that my insurance has paid 80% of the cost (over $200 month).”
Men on Flomax for Frequent Urination:
Men who have to get up at night to go to the bathroom know pretty quickly how well their medicine is working:
Henry in Nevada:
“My first generic flomax (tamsulosin) was barely tolerable. In the second prescription the pharmacy changed manufacturers and this generic was far worse and not as effective. If the FDA is not directly monitoring these drugs then they are unlikely to have the necessary ingredients to be effective.”
BK on other ingredients in tamsulosin:
“My husband has been taking Flomax for a few years, when just last month, a generic form came to the market. Due to the inert ingredients, he ended in the hospital with gastritis. My insurance company will not pay for Flomax, only the generic tamsulosin. We cannot afford the high price of Flomax.
“I asked them to make a one-time exception to override the cost for a one-month supply of Flomax, just to wean him off the alpha blocker as needed due to severe side effects, but was denied.
“I could not believe the inert ingredients are so different. Drug companies should be aware of up coming law suits they are causing!”
Just think of the extra cost of hospitalization because of the generic substitution. How short-sighted of the insurance company in our humble opinion.
How to Report Generic Drug Problems to the FDA:
The FDA is starting to pay attention to our frequent messages of generic manufacturing problems. Anyone who would like to report a drug problem may do so at www.FDA.gov/MedWatch.
Patients can also share their experiences below in the comment section. Please try to find the name of the generic drug manufacturer on the label of the bottle so we can let the FDA know which companies have frequent customer complaints.
Jay
I’ve been taking Dilantin 100mg for at least 6 yrs now since being diagnosed with facial seizures. I used to pay $40 for a 30-day supply. Then all of a sudden my insurance stopped covering it so the price went up to $145! They said they don’t cover it anymore because there’s a generic equivalent for $15. So now since I was “forced” to take generic, it doesn’t work for me AT ALL. I have mild episodes every day and it’s frustrating. The generics come from Aurobindo. This healthcare we have in the U.S. is so broken.
SUSAN
I Have been on clonazepam, amitriptyline, levothyroxine, atorvastatin, atenolol, and warfarin since 1994. Last Christmas I received my first generics from Accord, Zydus, and Aurobindo. It has been such a nightmare, I now buy brand Klonopin and attempt to get as many drugs as possible from Teva Canada.
Your drugs are not working because the FDA cannot monitor all of these off shore Indian and Chinese manufacturers. I have had reputable pharmacy reps tell me that these drug companies check flight manifests to see when FDA Americans are coming. As well as giving them tap water to sicken them so they have to give up the inspection and stay in their hotel. How do I know this? I am a doctor.
Please send letter after letter to the FDA return receipt requested, to try and effect change. Bring drug manufacturing back to the US.
THIS HAS GOT TO STOP!!!!
Diana
I am taking generic Coreg Carvedilol made by Aurobindo, and it is totally ineffective. I have a headache, and my BP is ridiculously high. Having worked in a pharmacy for 3 years I know all too well that they purchase the cheapest they can get. When is this going to stop? I would get brand name but it is also mfg in India and is $250 a month.
Scarlet
MN
I’ve recently taken a Hydrocodone prescription (used routinely for Slipping Rib––Ehlers Danlos) manufactured by Lupin. It almost immediately cause withdrawal-like symptoms and increased pain. I am suspicious that it does not contain the correct amount of medication. In two weeks I was given another brand, and everything went back to normal. Very dangerous and frustrating. I missed several work days while taking the Lupin medication.
Jan
US
I am extremely concerned about most of the 4 or 5 generic drugs I take. I look up the drug companies on FDA.gov and see about half have had multiple warnings from the FDA. What is the consumer supposed to do??? There either isn’t a brand name anymore or we take our chances with possibly tainted drugs from India and/or China.
This is causing me great distress as I have severe anxiety, high blood pressure, had a stroke and now it’s come to buying my own OTC Nexium (it just got cut from my part D plan) so I don’t have to take a generic. My healthcare provider does not look up any of these generic drugs before prescribing. I’ve tossed bottle after bottle after seeing warnings from the FDA.
Again, what are we supposed to do? It’s like a crap shoot! How do we know if we are taking a tainted drug who’s symptoms don’t show up for months or years? Sorry for the length. Just so very concerned and tired of wasting my social security money on garbage. Thanks for listening. And hoping for an answer…..
Darlene
Ohio
I have been researching brand vs. generic for a few days because my lorazapam doesn’t calm me anymore and my head hurts. I can’t walk straight either, it looks like I am intoxicated and yet I don’t drink. I was shocked when I read the poison they put in generics and the side effects they cause. I threw away everything except lorazapam and am looking desperately for a different pharmaceutical company. I want to try Canada but don’t know which one. Right now both requip and lorazapam come from India and have read about some scary things in the generics from there. I keep wondering if I try a different manufacturer will I feel better.
Dennis
Appleton, WI
I take three generic drugs daily. Virtually every time I refill the size, color and shape is different. My pharmacist indicates the store chain acquires from a wholesaler who is active on the spot market. All of these drugs I purchased in the past year come from different manufacturers in India according to the pharmacist. The World Health Organization has reported that 40% of generics come from India and at least 25% of these are contaminated or compounded inaccurately. When questioned about drug safety, the pharmacist defers to the standard approved by the FDA line.
How can we citizens pressure the FDA to do a better job of assuring the efficacy of the generic drugs we must take to ensure our personal health and wellness?
Debra
Arizona
Effexor XR 150 mg from Aurobindi is not as effective as other generics that I have gotten. I am using the second bottle of it that I have gotten in the last six months. The first month, I wasn’t sure if it was the medicine or my circumstances. But now that I am using it again, after a month from another manufacturer, I see it is this drug. I have taken this medicine for 20 years. It is the first time I’ve had a problem with a generic form,
Brenton
Queens NY
I recently received amlodipine and lisinopril from Lupin and neither of them are doing anything. I had a reaction to brand norvasc and has been taking generics since it has never crossed my mind to check the manufacturer of them until now. Now I have to find who made my last batch that was working. Lupin needs to be investigated.
Kippy
Maryland
My Dr. advised me in his office, using his personal computer, to shop Canadian pharmacies for the generic Tamoxifen for BPH. I did as he suggested with a new prescription and received a confirmation phone call informing me the order was approved, and the shipping would be processed the next day from the source, In India. I specifically inquired about the inactive ingredients and was repeatedly informed that it only applied to color etc. and that the active ingredient was the exact same as the FDA-approved ingredient. We all want to save on our necessary drugs. However, even before my order arrives I am seriously considering trashing this medication. If even our own drug companies are sourcing their name brand products from foreign labs to cut their costs and improve their profits, whom do you trust? I trusted my Dr. but now I am not so sure even about him.
LaVerne
Washington, Mo
Lisinopril made by Lupin is ineffective. My Blood Pressure was under control until I got a prescription for Lisinopril 20 mg. manufactured by Lupin. Within five days, my blood pressure was hovering around 200/95. This drug manufacturer is dangerous.
Rachel
WA
Is there an update that can be had on whether or not the companies who make generics have
improved their reliability, or has the situation gotten worse??
I am so confused…
Thank you for your help.
rachel
Kay
Sun Pharmaceuticals Metformin 500 mg tablets are ineffective.
VICKI
SAN DIEGO
Take a stand, and do not support these companies. Generic medication is not the same as name brand medications. I know of someone who was taking name brand prescription eye drop to reduce her eye pressure due to Glaucoma, which helped retain her vision.
The name brand was costing her over $100 a month, and she was on a fixed income. After 20 years on the medication her doctor informed her that she could be switched to a generic brand, which was a fraction of the cost. 3 months later she was blind because the new drops did not control her eye pressure.
In my case, I do not take medications on a regular basis. However, since I am very sensitive when I do, I have asked my pharmacy to alert me whenever they make a change in suppliers. Recently, I had a severe fall and broke my upper arm literally in half, and it won’t heal.
It is very painful to sleep so I was prescribed Xanax. Dose was 1/2 pill of a .25mg Xanax (small does due to my sensitivity level). Although the first prescription was generic, it worked well. Then my drug store switched me to generic Xanax by Aurobindo without letting me know. I tried to return them to and was told that is all they have to offer. They do not even carry the other manufacturers any more.
Well, with no other option, I tried 1/2 of a .25mg generic Xanax by Aurobindo and felt hung over for hours the following day. The pharmacy could have taken them back and ordered the name brand via special order but said I would have to go back to my Dr. instead and request an early refill.
I would rather have the pain than the meds from Aurobindo with GOD who knows what in them. Shame on them.
Stan
Calif. U.S.
I would be happy to take any generic drug from India, China, Brazil etc assuming that any of these drugs are fully approved by the FDA and/or have gone through an independent American company that does comparison testing of the Orig. drug vs the generic.
Obviously, the cost factor is what is driving people to seek out other opportunities to get cheaper medication. And the one main question that always remains unanswered, is “why is the price of the original medication so much cheaper in countries like India, then here in the US?” Is it just pure GREED!
Ramon
USA
Please… be realistic, humans are greedy, Indians included and hence why there is skimping on the manufacturing process for their drugs. US Pharma spends BILLIONS on research to develop the new drugs but everyone complains when they make their money back, not when freeloading companies lie in wait to sell (frequently) a cheap, substandard generic that their greed drives them to sell. Be realistic.
Personal experience – I have been taking a drug (generic, made in USA) for years to help with a swollen prostate and urination difficulties. About 6 months ago my supplier switch to Indian generic and I am now dealing with significant problems urinating again. Not coincidental? I will be switch back to brand name as a test but have little doubt what the root cause is. GREED of the Indian manufacturers.
Jules R.
Texas
Not only do these Indian companies operate in totally unsanitary conditions, many of these Indian made drugs contain unbelievable contaminants including even animal and human excrement.
In addition, I had discovered by researching the imprints on the tablets that they were not the medication listed on the label. My personal research began after I ended up in an emergency room with BP over 200 and unable to speak, just make grunting sounds. Initial assessment (in error) was that I was having a stroke.
Mary
Colorado
I was diagnosed with hormone receptive (and very rare) ovarian cancer 2 years ago. Pharmacies and mail order pharmacies sometimes switch manufacturers for the drug I take which is Letrozole (aka Femara).
Both my family and I have noticed a distinct difference when I’m taking generic Letrozole made by Breckinridge vs Teva. The latter causes more side effects like nausea and frequent debilitating hot flashes; One major big-box was kind enough to special order Letrozole from Breckinridge even though they switched manufacturers.
The mail order company I tried to use will not work with me. It forces us to purchase only by mail order. I’m positive the “inert “ ingredients are to blame. Even the color is different. One is light yellow, and the other is a very deep yellow.
Kippy
GA - Georgia
I had been taking Acyclovir generic Zovirax? For fever blisters. At first worked great over the years less. Then I got refill that seemed magical! The manufacturer is Heretage. So how long I had been paying for junk!
Now new generic for Wellbutrin is junk. Took for a month. Same for Generic for Concerta. Cost 200 and has no value. First we have to fight with insurance to get drug partially covered then spend more to get sicker!
Mary
I made a mistake in my
Original comment; I meant to relay that OptumRx refuses to give me the estrogen blocker by Breckinridge, and the United Healthcare forces us to get our meds by mail order only, and OptumRx is the mail order pharmacy.
Athena
Los Angeles
After a lot of research, the way “I” see it is that the generic drug companies, The FDA, and the pharmacy chains are profiting off our misery. Forgot about the insurance companies. Drug Companies pay astronomical regulatory fees to the FDA. Then the Drug Companies get the drugs cheap from India and other countries. Sell them to the pharmacy chains for a profit. Then the pharmacy chains make their profit. By the time our medications get to us, we are ingesting drugs that may be from a manufacturer that has not even been carefully scrutinized for quality. My prescription bottles don’t even say FDA approved. Seems I read that these other countries can’t afford the FDA fees. I think it should be disclosed where the drugs were manufactured and the ingredients, just like we see on the food we purchase. I see nothing safe about this. I will refrain from describing it the way I’m thinking. Very disturbing.
Debbie T
GA
Took two different antibiotics (cipro and keflex) 7 months apart and had same reaction. On the morning of the 3rd dose, I was “crashing”- blood pressure dropped, heart racing, extreme anxiety and disorientation. I thought I was having some sort of anaphylaxis and was rushed to Dr. both times. The first time with the Cipro, the dr straight up told me that I was having allergic reaction and gave me 2 histamine blockers, and I immediately started to feel better.
It took me about 2 weeks to get rid of all symptoms. The second time with Keflex, I was given a steroid shot to flush it out of my system. I’m scared to take anything, now. I went to an allergist who told me that It wasn’t an allergic reaction, and my regular dr has been running tests. My pharmacist told me that both rx came from India – Dr. Reddy’s and Lupin. I have been investigating this and came across this website, Has anyone else had a bad reaction from antibiotics from India?
Ruth
PA
Recently the pharmacy changed my prescription by ordering it from Dr. Reddy’s instead of from Activis. My reaction to the drug (which I have taken for two years) is completely different than the previous prescription. Is there a way I can get back to Activis?
Shelly
San Luis Obispo California
I moved from WA to CA, and my Dr in WA mailed me a script for Adderall until I could find a Dr down here in CA. I was used to taking 20 mg Adderall that were by Teva manufacturing. But I ended up get getting these little white pills by a Pharmaceutical company named Mallerinck. They made me so sick and gave me a headache I couldn’t even take them. So I finally just got done seeing my new Dr here, and I’m just going to have to do some research and make sure that the pharmacy I pick does not give me those. What a pain in the ass, too. And all the emotional unstability that I went thru in the past 3 weeks trying to get into to see a Dr has just been draining.
Pain
USA
Had been on Norco 10/325 for a little over 10 years due to pain caused by dystonia. Recently like many pain sufferers in the USA the local pharmacy only began carrying the generic brand which was says U03 on the tablet, and are made by Aurolife a subsidiary of Aurobindo a generic pharmaceutical company in India.
Ever since being placed on the generic made in India it feels more like a placebo, and there are many complaints by other pain sufferers online the generic brand with U03 does not help others pain either. To top it off, ever since being placed on the generic brand I’ve had a soft stool which tells me there is something wrong to the prescription itself because opioids do not cause one to get a soft stool or diarrhea immediately just by changing brands of opioids from Noroc 10/325 to the generic made by Aurolife. Several people posted online that pain management specialists and pharmacists they talked to have all heard the same problem with the generic U03. Even saw a complaint at Glassdoor by one of the pharmaceutical companies own employees saying Aurolife’s generic “medication itself doesn’t work as well as others”.
This has been such a bad experience ever since the local pharmacy quit carrying Norco 10/325s and only carrying the generic brand which says U03 on the tablet and is made by Aurolife, that I have been confined to a rocker recliner ever since being put on the generic brand.
Jessica
skokie
I took generic adderal by Teva pharm and it worked well. Then, I was given the generic by Sun pharm made in India and I was NOT able to focus and was VERY restless. This is SO frustrating and crazy. I am a nurse and know this is not psychological…there is a quality control problem.
Lynn
CA
I have never taken Metformin, as I was able to control my blood sugar with diet and exercise.
Recently, my A1c is up and my fasting blood sugar is often over 200. I have been taking the Aurobindo generic for Metformin/Glucophange for a couple of months and keeping a diary. It appears to be doing NOTHING. I think I am ingesting chalk.
Annie
Fort Worth, TEXAS
I was prescribed the generic Wellbutrin some years ago and absolutely could not tolerate it. When my new psychiatrist wanted to put me on it to augment for Major Depressive Disorder I was adamant “No Generics” as I already knew about the filler issues. She now writes “brand name necessary” on all scripts.
However, my insurance won’t pay for the brand and the cost of a 30 day supply of Wellbutrin is astronomical. So…I go to the manufacturers website and look for coupon offers. (which they always have!) Now, I get my brand name drug for generic (or less) prices!! I don’t know if that will work in all of your cases…but, I’d say it’s worth a try. Generics are bad news.
Best of luck everybody!!
G
New Jersey
Just looking up conversations because Walgreens switched from a cholesterol med. made in India to a med made in Jerusalem. I had stopped taking the med from India, had side effects which I did not have on the Lipitor. Same deal with Diovan for Blood pressure. Now I check where my generics are from. Countries with lax laws seem to be the culprit. We are slaves to the insurance and pharmaceutical companies. This has to stop.
Kaye
USA
The USA drug companies will do anything to stir you away from buying your meds from India etc. They want YOUR money. I wouldn’t be surprised if they are tricking us with this website to scare us into buying ridiculously priced drugs in USA. That is the reason why the government no longer allows you to use your credit card online to pay for drugs in India. They make it difficult for you by making you send them a check. I buy retin A from Canada Pharmacy made in India for $45.00. I was quoted $250.00 here in the USA. Give me a break!
Susan
Dallas, TX
Just because you have been fortunate enough not have a reaction to your one generic medication is not evidence or proof that all generics are safe. You have simply been lucky, and your comments show that you have no idea what you’re talking about. If and when you suffer the miserable consequences of a shoddy generic medication, you will absolutely change your haughty and ill-informed attitude.
Paula P
san antonio,tx/ isa
What is a reliable pharmacy in india?
JR
Georgia
Another complaint here about generic Percocet from Aurobindo. I got a refill and noticed the pills were different from my previous bottle. These new ones from Aurobindo upset my stomach, cause anxiety and disorientation, and do nothing to kill pain. A few of the pills did nothing at all, like they were “duds” or something. I’ve been through a heck of a battle having a major surgery and some unfortunate complications, and now this? Of all the terrible things to have to endure: a hack Indian drug company, an uncaring chain pharmacy that won’t help me, and an insurance company that doesn’t give a damn either.
Amanda
South Carolina
The zolpidem manufactured by Aurobindo Pharma in India is nothing like Ambien. This is sold by Walmart. Someone at the FDA should be looking at Aurobindo. These companies are making a fortune at the American publics expense. I wonder what actually is in this zolpidem, I would not be surprised if it was chalk or something worse! Walmart also bears responsibility and should have inspectors making sure the products are made correctly.
Paula
Connecticut
My Dr. prescribed Oxycodone, and the generics were working fine. Then I noticed that in some months the pills did not work as well. As J.R. stated, some were”duds.” My insurance will only pay for generics. Aurobindo from India makes these. They are now in New Jersey, but do they make the pills here or in India? I cannot rely on the quality anymore.
Bill
New York
I get occasional lower back pain, from arthritis and heavy yardwork. I used to have Vicodin on hand for the days it was bad. Now, with our government flipping out over opioids (really heroin and fentanyl), Vicodin is hard to get. All this does is force decent people to deal with Indian pharmaceuticals to get what we need. Now, I have be concerned if my Vicodin is even real, and if real is it the proper dose. So thanks a bunch, government. These unmarked pills from Hyderabad are *maybe* the right med at the right dosage, but who knows! I wish we had real freedom in this nanny-state country.
Betty M
Louisiana. USA
I was using TEVA Generics Avapro. the pharmacy told me they could not get TEVA brand any more, they give solco heal ,it has cause me sever headaches,dizziness, and weight lost.I have lost all trust in generics
Happy camper
Arkansas
Aurobindo — shame shame! Been taking generic Prozac with wonderful results for long term, hard to treat depression. But no longer happy. Have been suffering and feeling hopeless until an ‘aha’ moment today. Three months ago was switched to Aurobindo without notice — even tho pharmacy record specifies NO meds from India or China (due to previous problems). Depression getting worse and hit bottom now. This morning, exasperated and considering stopping med entirely and just giving up on being well, I instead pulled my receipts. Oops! Pharmacy goofed the last three months. Now, instead of me either requesting a higher dosage, or quitting entirely, i will give it one more try and have dr. specify ON RX itself that no meds from India or China be given. Eureka! I will give this a try and be faithful in checking all rxs before paying for them.
Judy
Pennsylvania
My pharmacy swititched to tramadol 50 mg from India sun pharma who bought coraco. It is useless. Just called the pharmacy who said the regular supplier was back ordered. Do not use generics from Sun Pharma.
Matthew
I used a company called Nexus Lifecarem it’s a scam! Run away, run far, far away. I bought “medicine” from this phony company that was billed as the “same as in the US”, a very expensive anti-fungal that was intended to help my cat. Not only was their medicine slow in coming and hard to deal with, but I later learned from my Veterinarian that IT WAS FAKE!
When I asked for my money back, they stalled and stalled and finally disappears. All the fears you have about scam Indian Companies are true for Nexus Lifecare! DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH THIS COMPANY! They are a rip off and a scam and seem to have to problem with the fact that they are selling people things that will harm or kill them.
RUN AWAY! NEXUS LIFECARE IS A SCAM!!!
Ashley
Columbus
My pharmacy just switched my generic adderall to Aurobindo. Said they couldn’t order me anything else because they made a deal with Aurobindo. It doesn’t seem to work at all and not only does it not work but the side effects are terrible. It makes me feel irritated and restless.
LIBBY
BOSTON
Same here about the generic Adderall! I am sitting here researching online for reports of problems with Aurobodino because this month’s prescription is NOT working and is causing more problems! I was taking the pink Corepharma brand which I’m not crazy about but I can deal. This month it was these new ones from a new mfg so I thought “Hey, maybe these ones will work!” The first couple of days were OK, but by day 3 or 4, I’d take my usual dose in the morning, and a couple hours later I’d have to ask myself “Did I take that this morning?” because I felt nothing! And now, it’s been a good 2+ weeks. Not only are they not having any affect, I am having serious trouble with short term memory! It is scary!! It started on Thursday and has only been worse! I am going to contact my doc in the morning now that I’ve read these posts & articles. Thank you for sharing!!
Bink
Los Angeles
I have been on fluoxetine for PMS several times in my life. Recently, my pharmacist filled with Aurobindo brand which doesn’t seem to be working even though I doubled the dosage. When I went to the company website, it didn’t work in any reasonable way and I was never able to ask a question on it even though it looked normal. This didn’t make me anymore confident about the quality of the medication…I have requested another brand.
Erika
Los Angeles
Yes, it has the same effect on me!
Susan Kinsella
Massachusetts
I have had these side effects from a med ( different than yours) that I had taken for 10 years. Got a generic I later found out was from Sun Pharma and was horrified to have irritability and anxiety as a side effect. Told Pharmacist about it
Michele
Pennsylvania
Same problems with generic adderal from aurobindo. With all the regulations regarding this med, and the fact that I now have to see a therapist in addition to my psychiatrist to remain on this med, then to receive a medication that simply does not work, is frustrating.
LIBBY
Wow! I just said the same thing in reply to Ashley from Columbus, then kept scrolling down and saw your reply too. This is insane! This is not the first time this has happened to me, either. About a year ago in April, I received the generic Adderall from the mfg. Milan. Have you heard of them or received these ones yet? Worst experience of my life.
For the first 2 days I had an upset stomach and gastro problems. Day 3, memory loss (more than usual). Zero effect. Thought it was just me but I started to feel terrible: extremely depressed, wanted to just leave work to go home and take a nap. The last straw was when I accidentally took a double dose by mistake because I forgot that I took anything at all. I only knew because I counted my pills and realized it. The double dose did nothing.
Every month I get such anxiety wondering what I’ll get stuck with because it’s such a gamble now. I didn’t think it could get any worse than Mylan but this Aurobindo is definitely close. This is so unfair and frustrating, to say the least. Someone please help!!!
Maureen
British Columbia
Has anyone heard oh Healthpose canadian online pharmacy(actually prescriptions are from India)
Is this company safe? and are they legitimate?
margaret
ct
I have been on various benzodiazepine with different doses, and there has been no indication of DRY MOUTH and how serious it can be. I encourage all patients who have dry mouth to take the necessary precautions, dry mouth is due to lack of saliva which washes away bacteria from the mouth. If bacteria remain there, it can go under teeth and cause serious dental cavities.
I lost my insurance 10 yrs. ago, and had regular check ups and repairs as needed.
I went to aspen dental who did a panoramic x-ray and cursory exam at no charge. It ended up that I needed to have 6 molars reinforced (cavity under existing cavity) in 6 teeth- mostly molars, which I have done at a cost of almost $2,000. Now I need crowns on them-$1250 each, – then deep teeth cleaning by a gum dentist, and my gums are wearing thin.
If I had been forewarned of the catastrophic destruction to teeth by dry mouth, I would have been more diligent with daily oral hygiene and visited dentist more often. I am trying to find some financial assistance with this because I am on medicare which does not have dental at all. I personally think it should be more highlighted or given more attention by service providers the serious of dry mouth and the cost involved.
If anyone knows of agency/charity that would assist in paying for some or all of dental costs I would appreciate knowing about it.I am going to contact my “disease chapter” to see if they have any possible solutions. So keep those suckers in your mouth, chew gum and use the dry mouth products.
Dee
Minnesota
There’s alot from India going though Canada pharmacy names online due to US postal customs. I know becuse of ordering. I have had great luck with my orders from India Alldaychemist has been Great.
I am going keep using them.
ellen
herkimer co, ny upper ny state
See if you can get a medicare subsidiary insurance which has dental. If you have good credit, you can get care credit, which is a credit card for health or dental use.
There is also another insurance company for dental called humana or delta dental. There is also something called catholic charities that might be able to help if you have one in your area. check with social serices in your area too. Let me know how things go.
Judith
Peoria, IL
I recently switched to mail order prescriptions through my ins. company. I take Carvedilol and have done well on it until getting my new prescription which is manufactured by the Aurobindo pharmacy. I don’t feel good and am very short of breath. I am switching back to the American made brand and notifying my insurance. I have no proof but I’m not taking chances with heart medicine. Judi
Sheila
PA.
I recently got my first refill of 10 mg Percocet manufactured by Aurobindo and am so angry. These are the worst pills I have ever taken and they do not work! I have had my percocet from several different manufacturers and none of those have ever come close to being as bad as the ones from this company. Not only do they not work but they make you feel absolutely awful besides all the pain you are already in.
What in the world is the FDA doing, certainly not their job!
Now, I ask the pharmacist what company they are using before I fill my meds and go else where if necessary. FDA, you are doing the consumer more harm than good!
JR
I just got 5-325 percocet made by Aurobindo and am so angry, too. Like your experience, mine do nothing for pain and plenty to make me sick.
I’m going to ask from now on, too. I’m going to walk if they say Aurobindo and then leave a bad review online later to let others know.
anonymous
Walgreens has recently been changing manufacturers. I was surprised to find out how many items came from outside the country, mainly India. After researching it, I am going to try and request that my drugs come from the U.S. only. Do not know if this is possible. But I am going to try and follow through with it. If more of us complain, maybe they will stop using manufacturers out of the country. My daughter lived in China for 8 years. After living there, she is reluctant to trust any drug manufactured there.
Kim
Georgetown, TX
My last refill of Sumatriptan from a pharmacy in Georgetown, TX was from a different manufacturer. It is manufactured for Aurobindo Pharma USA, Inc, and manufactured BY Aurobindo Pharma Limited, Hyderabad-500 090, India. As this article states, Aurobindo is one of the Indian companies that has received warning letters from the FDA. How can I know if this med is okay and FDA approved?
Molly
Willis, TX
My husband and I both had problems with Indian drugs. We now purchase our Rx’s from HEB Pharmacy. They will order in the drugs that we need from a different source than India or China. We have a friend that is a pharmacist (she’s Chinese) and she told us to NEVER take drugs from India or China. My husband’s pulmonologist at a large hospital in Houston, TX is Indian. My husband asked him if people in India took Indian drugs. His response was that if you have any money at all you would NOT take Indian drugs. He sends his mother in India her drugs from here.
ganesh
INDIA
Do not fall for Corporations cheap publicity. Watch Fire in the Blood movie. Where Generic AIDS drugs by an Indian company CIPLA saved millions of Africans.
AIDS drugs had worked more effectively than patent drugs
Insatiable Greedy Corporations buy doctors, hospitals and media. Just do your own research, do not buy for their tricks
Jeanne
USA
I was prescribed an antibiotic for a UTI and it worked great! 4 months later, I had another UTI and filled the script. The capsules looked much larger but the pharmacist said it was a different manufacturer and had more “fillers”. This time the medication is not working. I was told they always get the “cheapest”. Great. Just what our poor bodies need. The “cheapest”. I would happily pay a few dollars more for the first medication I took which worked. I was also told the FDA watches the India company that makes it. LOL
Lexi
California
The FDA and the National Institute of Health and out law makers are the ones allowing this to happen. They are looking out for the pharmaceutical companies and big business, they stopped caring about people. It’s sad.
I trusted them and I trusted my doctors. I just had a terrible reaction to a changed generic drug brand and it caused serotonin withdrawals. I have been very ill for nearly a month! I finally figured it out myself after 3 doctors ignoring me and still only the pharmacist believes generics aren’t the same. FDA Does not regulate the same and they do not study the same either!
Ashutosh Mahajan
Pune, India
Simple Formula:- Cost is directly proportional to the Quality of product.
Michele Fischer
Pennsylvania
I took sertraline from Aurobindo which came through my mail order pharmacy. Upon the first dose, about one hour after ingesting, my head was in a fog, lightheaded, and then I became extremely anxious. Switching to a different manufacturer. Hope this goes well.
Polly
England
My son is taking 100mg sertraline per day and 2.5mg aripiprazole
He is severely autistic and non verbal, 14 years old with Severe OCD, anxiety and bipolar.
He has been on sertraline for a number of years and the aripiprazole for 4 months.
He has had several brands of sertraline including the original Lustral or Zoloft a its known in America (we’re in the UK).
Recently, he was given the brand Aurobindo sertraline, 3 days after starting it his anxiety and OCD dramatically increased. I didn’t know what the cause was at the time, it was like withdrawal symptoms and very frightening and upsetting to see him suffering. Then I realised after researching on the internet that others had suffered the same problems with Aurobindo, which was manufactured in India.
It was definitely not a psychological response as he has no comprehension of medicine.
It makes me wonder if when his ocd has returned and medication been increased whether it was necessary, or if he had started a new brand at the time. I previously believed all who said the generics were exactly the same, obviously not !!!
I am worrying now about starting his new prescription of aripiprazole, he was on Abilify the original brand, but I have just been given the generic brand wockhardt, which looking on here says is also from India.
Pharmacists in England are reluctant to give the original brands due to costs. Which I find shocking when it’s for a child who’s brain is still developing.
Constantly giving our vulnerable children different brands which all have different chemical ingredients is discusting, when the costs are so dramatically different they are obviously cutting corners somewhere to the detriment of everyone’s health.
J
Australia
My script: 150mg Effexor XR 1 per day.
Taking effexor for around 5 years.
Most of the time, I was taking the generic Apotex Venlafaxine XR 150MG. As it’s slightly cheaper.
Have had no reaction to having generic in the past. Have used both Pfizer effexor xr and Apotex venlafaxine XR interchangeably with no issue. Often due to the chemist running of generic and swapped me to name brand.
Ranbaxy/Sun are the company that makes products for Apotex in Australia. They make generic Effexor, Venlafaxine XR .
Refilled script 2.5 weeks ago, have been taking nightly with evening meal.
The past 2.5 weeks, I have had severe withdrawal system since refill, as if I’m missing my dose.
Headaches, throbbing pain.
Dizzy, swimming brain feeling
Anxiety symptoms
Racing heart rate and slightly increased blood pressure.
Saw Doctor, she advised to switch immediately to Effexor, saw chemist and made switch.
Thanks to Australian Medicare PBS the price difference is negligible. Approx $25 to $30 for 30days, for either generic or name brand.
If you feel the same, or having doubts…
I recommend see your doc and switch to the Pfizer Effexor for the time being, if you can.
I have lost all trust in generics generally now. When 6 months ago I was the one recommending them to my family/friends.
I hope the FDA can figure this out, as Australia’s TGA usually just follows the FDA.
Anne
San Antonio
I used to work at a pharmacy 30 years ago and the pharmacist would always tell customers that the generic medication had the same active ingredient. I have grown up with that belief until I recently had my own experience with generic prescription drugs not being effective.
I have ADHD and have my symptoms have lessened by taking generic Adderall. I recently felt I may need to up my dosage because it seem like my symptoms had gotten worse. I was speaking with a friend who also has ADHD and she said her symptoms had also gotten worse. We figured out we were on the same generic medication.
After researching I found that the medicine is made in India and there are a lot of complaints about this generic medication. The one pharmacy I used only sells this manufacturers medication. I have always trusted that the FDA made sure all generics had the same active ingredient but the quality of generics seems to be a big problem in the United States.
My insurance will not cover name brand Adderall. It seems to be all about the money we are saving by using generic medication but we need to address the quality of this medication.
Marsha
San Antonio, TX
I absolutely agree with the comments from readers. My own experience is that a generic Allegra caused acid reflux, which I had never had before. I verified this by stopping and restarting the drug. I wonder how many patients experienced this and simply added a proton pump inhibitor or antacid. I had a patient experience diarrhea when her generic manufacturer was changed. It is alarming that ingredients may be sourced from other countries, particularly China, without this information being given to the public. I wonder if this is true of supplements as well.
Jackson C.
Central VA
Thank you for sharing your experience. The old adage, “you get what you pay for”, seems to be echoing in the background as I read these accounts. Though I believe that we have been generally fortunate in America, common sense tells us that generic equivalent medications have their limitations when compared to its original ‘brand name’ form.
I too had a similar experiences with generic Adderall, generic MS Contin, Percocet, Soma and Hycodan cough syrup, to name just a few.
Sue
SC
The “ingredients” variability in generics is disconcerting as well as the fact that so many generics are made outside the USA. Can we not not make our own drugs and generics anymore? Nobody touched on the fact that making the generics is one baliwic, but how are the “foreign made” drugs transported/stored to arrive here with consideration to temperature, light and moisture exposure. Scarry!
Margaret
Colorado
I am a retired attorney who has been appalled by the lack of quality control of generics. I was ill for months and finally hospitalized by Teva’s version of Losartan three years ago. I recovered quickly on the brand name version.
I now monitor my blood pressure medications very carefully and do not allow the pharmacists to switch me from one generic manufacturer to another. I also try to follow the FDA’ s actions on generic manufacturers as best I can thru the Internet.
JAS
I have a close family member with schizophrenia (for the last 24 years) & who was finally stabilized on Zyprexa and did very well on it for many years. When the insurance company prescribed the generic for Zyprexa Zitis, we noticed a swift, significant decompensation. Once he was placed back on Zyprexa Zitis he recovered significantly. The second time he was accidentally placed on the generic, he once again decompensated. Once again he was placed back on Zyprexa Zitis and recovered. Is it possible that the generic is simply ineffective for him? Or is it a case of his personal aversion to all generics (for whatever reason) and therefore, he stops taking his medication? We don’t know the answer to this, however, we have now received an exemption from his insurance company and he will now always be on the brand drug and never given the generic.
Marjorie
kansas
I posted a comment yesterday using real names which I realize was improper. I was so angered about this problem that it clouded my thinking. My BP had been 170 to 180 on awakening and now it is 20 to 30 points lower just by changing drug manufactures. I wonder how many people are being harmed by this.
Jess
New York
I’ve been monitoring this dangerous situation for several years. It could become a health care tragedy of immense proportions – or not.
The first step, in my view, lies with the FDA. It MUST change its official position which is posted in virtually every drugstore in the USA. Its official position is “FACT: FDA requires generic drugs to have the same quality and performance as brand name drugs.” It’s only HALF a “fact”, as we well know. Yet it persuades millions every day that generics are the “same” as brand name drugs.
What we know is that while the FDA may “require” the above, it’s of no effect when the manufacturers of generics refuse to pay any attention. One example (can easily be looked up): Ranbaxy of India, time and again, flouted FDA rules regarding quality and purity of generic medicines. And it’s only one example.
Further, it’s not just a matter of ignoring FDA rules. These omissions have ACTUAL consequences each and every time a patient takes one or more of these “bogus” or “dumbed down “medicines”. Lack of relief, pain, and even death.
Insurance companies who force subscribers to take only generics are also in the wrong,
yet they also can hide behind the FDA statement above.
The FDA, simply, must become more honest with the American public, and work more effectively to purge the market of problem drugs and their manufacturers.
It’s up to us as consumers as well. It’s time that attention and light be brought to this life-threatening practice which affects virtually all of us – and which seems sure to continue until we bring an end to it.
M B
SC
When a generic came out for Celebrex my insurance changed me to generic. I took 1 capsule and it burned my stomach and my skin on outside of my body burned. I got in touch with insurance and they approved the brand. Also I was taking generic of topral-xl for blood pressure and I was switched to generic but I contacted brand drug company and was approved and I pay a small co-pay.. I do not like generic drugs… I do not believe they are made to the same standards as brand name drugs.
I read above if you take a generic of a brand drug and it has adverse affects you cannot sue. I want the right to protect myself…keep reporting ill affects of generic drugs.
Cheryl
South Carolina
If you want to check on the origin of your generic drug, you can go to Drugs.com and compare the tablet or capsule you were given with the images of the medications on their site. You should be able to identify your generic drug by its appearance and markings. If you click on the link marked “View Images and Details,” you will be provided with the name of the manufacturer of your medication. Once you have the name of the company, however, don’t assume that, because they have distributors in the U.S. that the medication is manufactured here. My amlopidine is distributed by Lupin Pharmaceuticals, based in Baltimore, MD, but they are owned by Lupin Ltd., which is an Indian pharmaceutical company.
I took myself off of this medication after taking it for just a couple of weeks because I was unable to open my eyes in the morning and have experienced an extreme change in my appearance since taking it — puffy eyes, circles under my eyes, ptosis of the eyelids, etc. Very concerned about these effects combined with extreme fatigue. What I wonder is how to have a medication tested to determine if the drug I have been given contains the correct medication in the correct dose.
Sally Mootr
Alpha, Ga
What about the generic for SYNTHROID?? I AM NOT FEELING WELL SINCE I STARTED IT. What about it??
Marjorie Brink
Kansas
My pharmacist refilled my amlodipine from a different mfg. in early January. During the next 30 days my BP took a dramatic drop. I had not made an other changes. I have requested to stay with ZYDUS in place of Green. My pharmacist would not comment but said he would try to honor my request. This article makes me feel justified.
oldetimer
Maryland
Just because a drug does not work well does not necessarily mean it is not a fault of the drug/manufacturer. Even legitimate drugs can be ineffective on certain people; every person has his/her own reaction. If one drug does not work, ask your doctor to prescribe a similar drug. A complete, detailed listing of ALL generic drugs claimed to be ineffective by users should be made available to the public, including how many complaints were filed for each drug. Every drug that has received an overabundance of complaints compared to most others, would of course be suspect and should be avoided.
Barbara
Tampa, FL
Graedons:
The info you shared is great, but please follow up by answering the questions about how we check for information about drugs from companies whose medicines we use. You point out a great problem but don’t tell the consumer where to find this research, which may not be easily found. Thanks for covering this topic, just need to cover it more!
BARRY
Florida
Our “business-friendly” Congress has been de-funding the FDA for years. One result: fewer inspectors. (Fewer inspectors = businesses get hassled less.) As a consequence, taking a drug (especially a generic from who-knows-where) has now become a “crapshoot”. Business wins; consumers lose. Sad.
Karmel
Australia
I DO NOT take any generics at all. They are not long lasting only short. Often less than l/2 main ingredient and not enough checks and balances
Jess
New York
You can pay full price for brand name drugs if you’re wealthy.
Or if you have a “Rolls Royce” health insurance plan.
Pretty much everyone else is going to have to contend with generic drugs
at some point.
Rosalie
Pinehurst, NC
If you pay attention, all the drug lawsuits are against the original drug and manufacture. That’s because the Generic manufacturers can’t be sued per the Supreme Court. Here’s an CBS report on it.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/can-a-patient-sue-a-generic-drug-manufacturer/
Ami
Chicago, IL
This is significant: I have had the same bad experience with generics when it comes to Prilosec and couple other, similar GERD-treatment drugs. After mentioning it to a friend of the family who’s a radiologist, he suggetsed that, based on what he was told as a student many years ago, I should CRUSH the pill before swallawing it… WELL, IT WORKS!!! I got this $4 “Tablet Crusher With Pill Container” at Walmart, and I now crush my generic Protonix, add the bitter particles to a spoonful jam, or honey — and I have no heartburn all day.
Ami
Allow me to add: The reason for this, as per his explanation, is that the generic drug manufacturers many times compress (he called it “stamped”) the pills they manufacture way too much, not allowing the pills to be adequately dissolved in the stomach. I think it makes sense. Whatever the reason — IT WORKS ON ME.
Nancy
Arlington Heights, IL
Why are we allowing these drugs to come from foreign sources? How is this saving Americans money if we outsource something as important as prescription drugs to questionable offshore countries?
Is it because the health care industry is more concerned with profits than people?
Remember when all the drugs were manufactured in this country? I do. And it gave people jobs and improved our economy as well as our health.
It is surprising that the people in this country aren’t staging a real revolution over big business practices and the members of Congress that support this rush to cheap alternatives that only line the pockets of over-compensated CEO’s.
Carol
Oregon
Well controlled diabetic 2 on Lantus solorstar. But the pen in recent months began to jam on me. It was so hard to push down, that it hurt my skin and i bled alot. What damage was I doing to the body? I don’t know. Switched to Toujeo (not a generic here however) and now my fasting blood sugars are in the 300+ range. And the swelling is worsening my severe heart failure. I’m stuck. Die of high blood sugar or die from heart failure. Whats the best choice ?
Barbara K
Seattle
I have struggled with depression most of my life and have been on and off antidepressants for 40 years. I was on Bupropion (generic for Wellbutrin) for about a year and a half, and the depression became progressively worse to the point that I considered suicide as the only way out of the abyss.
I discussed this with my PCP and weaned off it. At her recommendation I saw a Psychiatrist who has more experience with antidepressants. I tried a number of other generic antidepressants, several of which I’d taken in years past and broke out with a terrible rash with every single one of them on day three or four.
The Psychiatrist now has me on Nortriptylin, and I hate it. It is helping very marginally but my mouth is always dry, and now I have two cavities that will cost to be filled. I’m still lethargic. I’m thirsty and hungry all the time and have put on 26 lbs. I drink lots of water throughout the day and cannot get a good night’s sleep, as I’m up urinating in the middle of the night.
On the plus side for generics, my gastroenterologist prescribed Budesonide (generic for Entocort HL) and a month’s supply from a nation-wide store was $1140/mo. I cannot afford this, as I’m a senior on a very limited income. I purchased the drug from an online pharmacy in Canada, and it costs me $59.59/mo (I’ve taken it for three months now). It’s manufactured in India by Sun Pharma, the fifth largest generic pharmaceutical manufacturing company in the world. I have experienced great results from this drug and have been taking it for three months now. The only downside I can see is that my RX provider cannot reimburse me. They could reimburse me if I bought the generic from a drug store in the US. Their share of the cost is $800/mo and my out-of-pocket is ~$400/mo. Does that make any sense?
If people choose to use an online pharmacy in Canada, they must do their “homework” to make sure they’re dealing with a legitimate pharmacy. According to the Canadian government, each territory or province is responsible for the veracity of the pharmacies and online pharmacies doing business in their purview. Online pharmacies are certified by several organizations and one of them is CIPA (Canadian International Pharmacy Association).
Judith
Virginia
I am 70 years old with diabetes. I was recently sent a batch of generic Metformin by the mail order pharmacy of my Medicare Part D Prescription Drug company. It smells like urine. I have been taking Metformin for over 15 years,and it has never smelled this awful before.
It left a horrible taste in my mouth and made me feel sick. I lost my appetite. Everything I tried to eat tasted bitter. I also had a severe headache that wouldn’t go away while taking these pills.
I went to my doctor for the severe headache pain. He gave me a shot of Torodol. I took the bottle of Metformin pills along with me and asked my doctor to smell them. He opened the bottle, smelled it and immediately jerked his head back and looked alarmed. He told me to call the mail order drug company and inform them of the problems with these pills. He told me to tell them to send me another brand.
I called Right Source and spoke to a pharmacist who refused to replace this batch of pills. She said “We fill over 100,000 prescriptions a day, and we do not guarantee the quality control of our manufacturers.”
I told my doctor and asked him to write another prescription which I filled at a local pharmacy. It cost me a lot more money, which I can ill afford.
The label states that this prescription is for Metformin 500 mg tab, and was manufactured by Heritage and filled by Humana pharmacy Right Source.
Is there someplace I can send these pills to have them analyzed?
Dr Patrick Neustatter
Providing adequate oversight in India, China etc is unlikely. We should be focusing on making brand name drugs affordable. Challenging the right of pharmaceutical companies to make massive profits – we should be supporting moves like that of Senator Amy Jean Klobuchar, (D Minnesota) sponsoring bill S.31 that would allow Medicare to negotiate prices.
Christa
NC
Generic drugs are outlawed in Europe,do I need to say more?
Jess
New York
This is inaccurate.
Generic drugs are alive and well in Europe.
http://www.egagenerics.com/
Mari
I’ve always wondered how the FDA can insist that generics are identical to brand name drugs; they can be considered equivalent but not identical. A doctor once explained that with generics, the active ingredient(s) are NOT required to match 100% and inactive ingredients have an even lower match requirement. I wish I could remember the percentages exactly, but I think it was something like 80/20. Has anyone heard about this?
Joyce
NC
My daughter-in-law, a doctor, told me several years ago that the percentage is 80/20, as you state.
Barbara K
Seattle
I too have heard that only the “active” ingredients are required to be the same as the brand name drugs. The “inactive” ingredients are only fillers. Apparently the problems lie within the inactive ingredients.
I’ve been on antidepressants off and on for most of the last 40 years (I’m now 72.) The generic I was taking for Wellbutrin gradually made the depression worse. I’ve been prescribed a lot of the other generic SSRIs over the past few years and I break out in a rash on day three or four. Is it the fillers or the active ingredients? I’ve complained to the pharmacist and no comment was made about the fillers but that my body is changing as I age and that’s probably the reason I cannot take the SSRIs.
Kathy
It’s the 75/125 rule. A generic can be 75% as potent as the brand or 125% as potent as the brand. That can be a huge variance. As a pharmacist (at an independent pharmacy, not a chain or mail order) we try to maintain a patient on the same generic brand. We often don’t get reimbursed the cost of the medication as more and more insurance companies MAC or have a “maximum allowable cost” for a lot of generics. Unless the pharmacist is willing to use the inferior medications from India, etc., the pharmacy operates at a loss. The system stinks.
Cc
Pa
Just one more thing to add. Most people are unaware that if they take a generic drug that they are forfeiting their right to sue for adverse effects. Trust me I found out the hard way.
Jim
Etowah, NC
I understand that the fillers in generic drugs that bind the medicine together can be problematic. Yet these ingredients are not listed on the bottle.
Del
how do we find out where the medications we use are manufactured if there are no labels? And how do we as citizens compel the FDA to mandate labels and monitor/regulate all generics? Also, if the drug makers did not overprice, there would not be a market for generics.
Sputz
Waynesville, NC
How would I know where my generic prescription comes from? There was a difference in efficacy and side effects in Xanax, when, after having difficulty with the generic from CVS, I moved to RiteAid which offers a different generic name and am doing fine. I am even more concerned about Thyroid Pork (generic name) in Nature Throid and wonder if paying for the real thing would be better for my health.
Mary
Sputz,
Naturethroid IS the real thing. The thyroid from pigs are closest to what humans need.
Synthroid may not be the real thing since it is only T4 and if your body cannot convert T4 to the active T3, it is less effective.
Michael
Central Florida
If the insurers won’t allow even a brief return to the brand-name drug, how will we be able to compare the brand-name vs generic? When I started taking Flomax 6 years ago, I thought it was a miracle drug; the effect was dramatic. Now on the generic, not so much; I see little difference if I forget to take it, even over fairly long periods. I would love to try the real thing again to confirm or deny my suspicions. If it gets bad enough, I’d be happy to pay for one month’s Flomax to experiment, but if it DOES prove to be better, what good will the test serve if the insurer simply refuses to allow it? The FDA should develop a standard protocol for allowing patient testing of generics in this way, with a mandate for allowing return to brand-name if the results prove the need.
JIM
CNY
I was taking generic Metformin for some time, but then the stuff started coming from a company in India . Noticed I was losing control of my diabetes. The doctor said I’d have to get on insulin, I said Hello NO. Did alot lot of research and found that the EU banned generic drugs because they were not the proper strength and the drugs were impure??? HMMM, then got a warning from my local pharmacy about the Generic problem. That was it, talked to the doc and went on Glucophage the real stuff. AHHH, soon my numbers came down and everybody’s happy. Oh and now I won’t lose my foot, ;))) :))))
Susan
NC
The largest retailer (you know who I mean) provides my generic metformin. Each month when I get it filled, I do not know what to expect. I asked them where they get theirs and was told that the pharmacy has no control over it…it comes down from the powers that be. My last month’s supply smelled terrible and was ineffective. I feel your pain!