
In the field of pharmaceuticals, Americans have been told that price doesn’t matter. Generic drugs are supposed to be identical to their brand name counterparts. For nearly 30 years, we believed this argument. We encouraged people to save money by insisting that their physicians prescribe generics whenever they were available.
The Original People’s Pharmacy Book:
A lot of health professionals and FDA officials who are familiar with our work find it hard to believe that Joe was once among the country’s leading advocates for generic drugs. The People’s Pharmacy book was first published in 1976. In it Joe had a chapter titled “How to Save Money on Prescription Drugs.” Here is what he wrote almost 40 years ago:
“The argument which your doctor will almost always resort to when defending his practice of prescribing expensive brands is that they are superior in quality to the el cheapo generic varieties. Since no one wants a prescription for lousy medicine, this approach usually shuts a patient up pretty fast. By the time the doctor is finished, you will probably apologize for mentioning the subject and end up meekly retreating with your tail between your legs. But does this argument hold water?
“Now just so you know which side of the fence I am on I am going to make the story crystal clear. If your doctors hands you this tired line, he is fooling you in the worst way. The inequality of drugs routine is usually just plain untrue. Although there have been some exceptions, there is very little solid evidence that demonstrates generic drugs to be inferior. But don’t take my word for it: listen to what the experts have to say.
“Let’s start with antibiotics, because they are prescribed with great regularity. That is where your doctor is on the thinnest ice if he tries to convince you that expensive brand-name drugs are more reliable than generic equivalents. For one thing, the Food and Drug Administration tests and certifies each batch of antibiotic for all pharmaceutical manufacturers before any product can be released for market…”
Our BIG U Turn!
We believe that what Joe wrote 40 years ago was true…then. But how times have changed. The FDA no longer tests or certifies each batch of antibiotics or anything else for that matter. For the most part the FDA relies on the honor system. Drug companies are responsible for their own testing and quality control. Now that most of our generic drugs are made in foreign countries, we have relied on regulators in those countries to oversee a lot of the generic drug manufacturing process.
In the last few years, however, the FDA has discovered that its trust may have been misplaced. Since sending a handful of FDA inspectors to India an incredible number of cases of fraud and poor manufacturing have been discovered. Reuters reported on Sept. 14, 2015:
“The ban on Polydrug takes the total number of Indian drug manufacturing facilities that currently stand barred from exporting to the United States to 44 between 2011 and now, according to the FDA website.
“The sanctions have hurt India’s image as a reliable supplier of cheap generics, and slowed the growth of India’s $15 billion pharmaceutical industry that supplies 40 percent of the generic and over-the-counter medicines sold in the United States.”
How We Learned There Was a Problem:
Our faith in the FDA was challenged several years ago when some pharmacists started telling us they had doubts about the quality of certain generic products. We also began getting letters from readers who had trouble with their generic prescriptions. Readers have shared their disappointment with generic pain relievers, antidepressants, blood pressure medicines and diabetes drugs. The generic drug manufacturers discount these reports.
Kathleen Jaeger, president and ceo of the Generic Pharmaceutical Association, has written:
“To set the record straight, there are no differences between FDA-approved brand and generic medicines. A generic must meet the same high standards as the brand-name drug, with the same safety and effectiveness, same active ingredients, same strength and dosage, same labeling and use and same high quality manufacturing standards.”
While we agree with Ms. Jaeger that FDA approval is rigorous, it is not foolproof. We proved that we we uncovered problems with the FDA’s approval of the generic version of the antidepressant Wellbutrin XL 300. After years of fighting the FDA it was revealed that Budeprion XL 300 (a generic version of bupropion) was not up to snuff. A couple of other generic versions of bupropion were also found lacking.
We also worry that once drugs are approved and marketed, monitoring is spotty at best. The FDA is not capable of analyzing more than a handful of pill bottles from pharmacy shelves each year. As a result, unscrupulous manufacturers or counterfeiters may be slipping substandard generics into the marketplace.
How to Report a Generic Drug Problem:
Let’s start with the FDA unwavering position that there are no (read that zero, nada, zip) problems with generic drugs. The agency still maintains that everything is fine and dandy with its approval process and its monitoring of foreign drug making despite banning 44 manufacturing facilities from exporting drugs to the U.S.
That said, the FDA repeatedly tells us that it wants patients to report a generic drug problem through its MedWatch system. Of course the FDA makes it very hard to report a generic drug problem this way. That’s because it requires information that is really hard to obtain:
- Manufacturer/Labeler (pharmacies do not always put this information on the label, or if they do it is often in print so tiny that it is very hard to read)
- Expiration date (pharmacies almost never put the actual expiration date on the label. They are not required to do so and it would be almost a miracle if they did. What they do put on the label is the discard date, which is almost always one year to the day the drug was dispensed. It has no relationship to the expiration date)
- Lot Number (pharmacies rarely, if ever, put the lot number on a dispensed bottle of a generic medicine. Unless the pharmacist dispenses the original bottle from the manufacturer you will have no way of determining the lot number unless you call the pharmacist)
- NDC # (most people have no idea what the NDC# is. It is a unique number that identifies the particular pill you are taking. You should be able to find it on the pill, though the number on really small pills will be hard to make out.
The bottom line is that the FDA makes it challenging to report a generic drug problem because it requires information that you will have to extract from your pharmacist and your pharmacist is not required to keep track of things like the expiration date or the lot number of your particular dispensed medicine. Nevertheless, it is important to do your best to report a generic drug problem. Again, here is the link to get you started. Good luck and please let the FDA know if you have ever experienced a generic drug problem!
Kelly
Camber Adderall and Camber Montelukast have been ineffective and are causing me serious health issues. Of course, everyone thinks I am crazy! It is affecting my mood, my memory, my intestines, my body, and especially my head. I tell Express Scripts that any generic is fine but absolutely NO Camber, and what do they send me? Everything Camber. Because the Adderall is a controlled substance I am stuck for 3 months, and I am livid. I am angry, sick, aching, and generally feeling like dog crap. This never happened with other generics. Why in the heck can’t we get the brand. It’s what we are prescribed, and generics are the biggest joke. Insurance companies are the second biggest joke. The patients are at their mercy.
Brandie
To Kelly: It is NOT in your head. I just learned that the Teva ones I usually get will be replaced with Camber. I am sort of freaking out now because it is like I am not taking ANYTHING. My professional life suffers. My relationship at home suffers. My dogs don’t even want to be around me. I really don’t know what to do. My doctor thinks I am a junkie.
For God’s sake, I am 47 years old, have been taking Adderall since 1995 and am a solid U.S. women’s size 10 -12. It’s not like I am using them to not eat or get high. But the moment you ask them to do an Adderall holiday or switch over to Desoxyn for a couple of months, they look at you like you just busted out a line of cocaine on the cushioned table with the sanitary rolled paper on it. It drives me crazy. Then I gave up and asked the pharmacist if I could just voluntarily pay for the name brand. $500 for 60 tablets. It’s like they WANT you abusing the crap. I am just trying to get enough medication in my bloodstream so I cannot forget the intro to my PowerPoint presentation, people.
You see how long this rant is – PROOF I have ADD, LOL.
Good Luck – I hope you get some answers.
Tina
I just filled a 90 day Rx for Focalin, and I’m very sensitive to fillers. They gave me one bottle of the Teva and 2 bottles of this Sun generic brand. I do great with the Teva but the Sun makes my stomach hurt, and they are so tiny. After taking a couple doses of Sun I don’t feel them working. My pharmacy didn’t even warn me or put anything on the bottle. I’m just stuck because no one has any Teva brand. How could they let this happen and give no warning!!
Jody
I have had the exact same problem with Sun Pharma brand generic Focalin. A few years ago I had to tell my pharmacy not togive me Sun Pharma brand. When I moved my pharm didn’t give me any from Sun until last month. Half was one brand, and other was Sun but I didn’t realize it until after I had taken a few doses. It’s like not taking anything! The pills are even less than half the size. I’ve had ADHD since I was a kid … I know when my medication is working. Sun Pharma Focalin is terrible.
Alicia
My generic Adderall 20mg. is from Elite Pharma. My local pharmacy puts no lot number, no DEA number, no identifying factors on the label. I was left to google the ‘e’ 505 oval pill with 20 scoring on the other side. It gives me a sharp pain of knives in my stomach. It makes me so angry I have nearly felt insane. I get little to no ADD relief whatsoever. What started my research into the pill was the fact that the imprint was not exactly the same as shown online. The ‘e’ and the “0” of the “20” do not match the image from drugs.com. I am wondering if this pharmacy supplied pills that are even real. To make matters worse, I broke one in half this morning, and embedded in the middle of the pill was a black shiny object, very small and looked like something you would get out of your finger-a sliver. There is very little I can find online on how to report this to my pharmacy, or even get in touch with the pharmacy, as reaching out to them resulted in nothing more than listening to a busy signal. Is anyone out there struggling with similar issues?
I am also prescribed Adderall XR 20mg. When receiving those from the same pharmacy I inspected the pills immediately. I know from past experience that the name brand are logoed Adderall XR 20mg. with the 20mg. label being directly under the Adderall lining up with the “d” and should all look the same. These did not. They looked as though nearly every pill had been opened or shifted so the logos did not line up. I am getting negative side effects from these pills as well. These cost me $250 for 30 pills, and it makes me sick to think I might not even be getting the correct medication/amount. The inside beads look the same as they used to with no visible foreign objects so far. Please reply if you are having the same or any issues with Elite Pharma generic Adderall or Adderall XR name brand pills. Thank You.
Sean
Aurolife / Aurobindo generic Adderall is horrible. Not even half as effective as quality generics. Also gives me a headache and some gas. Makes me a little jittery. But overall the worst is not being able to perform my job up to my ability. This puts my well being at risk on top of making my daily life suck. Had the same problem with Sun Pharmaceuticals version. But at least they went away. Having to take double the dose to be almost as effective means I can never have the amount I need. Max prescription is 60mg allowed. If I need 80 to 120mg to get by a day, there is no way for me to do that.
Ashley
Camber generic 20mg is terrible. After many years of a good consistent mix of my meds, I am back to square one. It’s lack of intended purpose has thrown my whole daily function downwards. Walgrees switched to this brand a few months ago, terrible move. Now my only option is to pay full prices at specialized pharmacy where the business hours are 9-5, M – F. So not convenient with a traveling job. This has become a serious issue. I wish they would take this off the market.
Laurie
TEVA GENERIC ADDERALL- 2022- Used to be the best! Now- NO focus, terrible anxiety, brain fog, extreme fatigue!! HORRIBLE Criminal – Can’t do my work! GENERIC DRUGS- THE biggest scam; so detrimental to our lives. WHAT CAN WE DO?!!
Tony
FL
I was on Lialda for 16 years without a flare-up of my ulcerative colitis when my insurance company (without asking) switched my prescription to generic Mesalimine. Within weeks I had a flare-up. A literature search showed that the difference is in a coating that causes the active ingredient to be released at the appropriate place in the colon. The coating is different in the generic, causing the medicine to be released in a different place. The insurance company says the active ingredient is the same in both (true), therefore they are bioequivalent (false). My gastroenterologist insisted they go back to Lialda and the flare cleared immediately. I’ve been fine since.
Joelle
CA
I see a pain specialist every month and get a prescription for norcos. A couple months ago I got a different generic brand than I usually do, and it was Amneal brand. When I took my monthly urine test, that month I had taken the Amneal brand ones, I tested positive for tramadol & I haven’t taken tramadol for over 8 years. I got the amneal brand ones again this month and am afraid of testing positive for tramadol again. How can I get one of these pills tested to see if this generic company is trying to pass off tramadol for norcos?
William
I have been taking Lupin 10-325 hydrocodone for years, and it has been working well. Recently CVS said they don’t provide this med any more, so they gave me Amneal Pharmacy 10-325 hydrocodone, and they do not work. Is this Amneal the same as the Lupin?
Also, after my Dr. calls in the prescription 10 days ahead of when I need the med, when I call to get meds they say they have to order it, and I don’ t get the meds til 4 or 5 days later! Then I am in pain. I have complained many time, and their answer is “it is the system.” I have been complaining for years, and it seems they never fix the system. I ask them what else do they have besides Amneal, and they say they can not tell me. HELP.
S
I had been taking the lupin pharmaceutical brand hydrocodone for a long while but the last two refills from CVS have been from mallinckrodt pharmaceuticals and they ARE NOT THE SAME!! Even our local HEB pharmacies carry only the mallinckrodt pharmaceutical ones! What has happened? Pain relief is CERTAINLY NOT THE SAME AT ALL! I was pretty well stable before and now back to square one. What to do??
Mary
Knoxville, tn
I have had the same issues with certain medications. I have been on Citalopram (orange ones) for anti-depression. My last 90 day refill is with is with Mylan. I didn’t put it together until approximately 3 weeks taking the Mylan version. I am having vivid horrible dreams. Nothing has changed in any of my medications except this one. I went back to my pharmacist and explained to her what was going on. Her reply was that they get whatever they get from the warehouse!
This is obviously wrong for them to just change the brand of medications because their company is trying to save a dollar while still charging me the same amount for an inferior product! I can not even get my regular version because they don’t have it an I am on a limited budget. I can only afford x amount for medications. Pharmacist and manufacturers should be held accountable for putting patients health in jeopardy.
k
my thyroid went from a 1.5 to 64….. I was taking the medicine from walmart. How do we get the sh*t tested? I have been on it for 15 years…..there is NO way it takes a drop like that if you are taking your meds…..
Estella
Diamond Bar CA
I take fenofibrate a generic for TriCor. Recently I was switched by RiteAid to a 90 day supply. Mylan lot 3056513 145 mg tablets. When I ran out I called for a refill and was told that I was twenty six days too early. So I had to wait without my medecine for almost a month. Got the new bottle, which was sealed claiming it had 90 tablets but it has 63 pills. What do I do? This is stealing! I can’t believe the manufacturer is skimming almost one third.
Julie Albanito
IL
Metforman there is something very wrong!! I have been taking 500MG for about 4 years and it has been working just fine. Now, it is no longer working very well. I though it was just me however, tonight after going to dinner with a friend I find out her Metforman is no longer working for her. Sooo I called my other friend who is also on Metforman and she is also having the same issue with her sugar levels. All three of us on the same medication for the same diabetic II reason and all three of us having the same issue with the same medication. I could see if it was only one or even 2 but all 3 off us on the same medication and all three having the same problem that is a big issue!! The manufacture is AMNEAL and yes all three on the same med
Crystal
MD
I am writing this important post in regards to the to the pharmaceutical company MYLAN. I have been on Xanax/Alprazolam for approximately 12 years. Just recently I started to notice a difference in the potency of my pills. Rite Aid starting using a different pill that was new to me & I didn’t think twice about it. I thought it was me & I must be building a tolerance.
This went on for about 7 months & my aunt calls me to tell me that she just picked up her prescription & she was given the same pills that I had been taking. She said immediately NO its not YOU these pills DON’T WORK! I felt a sigh of relief, I told my Psychiatrist the next time I saw her & she said she hadn’t heard any complaints about MYLAN but she would write on my prescription NO MYLAN.
So I filled the xanax/alprazolam at a different pharmacy & to my relief the pills Worked!
Psychologically I wasn’t alright though, I felt ripped off & upset with the fact that there is NOTHING that I can do to fix the problem. But now I’m embarrassed that every time I get my prescription filled I have to ask what manufacturer they have & the pharmacists don’t make it easy on me, they look at me like a pill popping addict. I hope that at least one person can be reassured by this post that its NOT YOU! I THINK IT’S MYLAN!
David
Southeast
A week ago I was force to o to a generic type Nexium from my company pharmacy, Express Scripts, instead of the brand name Nexium that I have been taken since 2001. Each day since making the change I have fought with tremendous intestinal cramps and Loose bowels. I cannot go anywhere. These Dr. Reddy generic drugs are crap, literally.
juicy404
GA
I am disgusted with these generics and think they need to be stopped. I received mylan pills these month and the only thing they do is make me feel worse! I will not longer be a guinea pig.
Bart
NY
If people did not consume so much sugar, (in hidden forms also) the economy would enter a recession because no one would have to see a Doctor so often. Consumption is about 160 pounds of sugar a year for the average American. Hang out with any individual that never gets sick or have health problems. You will see they do not consume much sugar.
Luis Ruiz
New jersey
I started having problems with foot pain after a month on generic metphormin from Aurobindo pharm.
Linda
I stopped eating sugar and lost 30 pounds.
Nancy
Il.
BC/BS will no longer cover my Wellbutrin XL 300 mg. They will only cover generics. I tried the generic several years ago and within weeks was experiencing withdrawal like symptoms and thought disturbances. I was promptly returned to Wellbutrin. My Wellbutrin went from $75.00 per month to over $1.400.00. BC/BS said that even a letter from my MD would not help. Does anyone know of a generic that is bio-equalently the same as or very close to Wellbutrin XL 300mg? My pharmacy can get Greenstone or Parr generic. Please advise.
risa
Virginia
My Metformin Hcl Tabs 500mg are NOT working. I take 1 Tablet After Breakfast and 2 Tablets After Supper. Never have my Blood Sugar Readings been this HIGH. The Mfg. Aurobindo is Not Working. I have been on this Mfg. brand for a month Very high levels. Something is very wrong with this medication. These pills are not working. What should I do?
Kathy
CA
Different dosage, but same experience you describe. Plus other side effects.
2nd med from Aurobindo also prior unknown side effects plus did NOT treat the cause it was prescribed for.
Both generic meds taken years before with desired results, no side effects until pharma was switched to Aurobindo.
C'Aira
Endicott, NY
Why isn’t there a warning on “the Pill” (oral contraceptives) about possibly causing thyroid issues? I’ve read that this is a very common issue. I’m also having this problem (hypothyroidism). I am very upset that I only hear about this issue happening so often when I have this problem and I have to dig around for information. And the fact that it could stick around for life all because of a pill messing with my hormones! There needs to be a warning and OB’s need to tell their patients! I’m tired of being sick and tired and Levothyroxine is not making me feel much better. Wish I could have avoided it all! Especially because thyroid issues do not run in my family!
Terry Graedon
Usually the research seems to indicate that oral contraceptives (and postmenopausal HRT) alter the thyroid blood test results without making significant changes in thyroid function.
Suzanne
FL
Try having your doctor put you on Armour thyroid. I was on levothyroxine for about 30 years and started having really bad side effects. I itched all over and felt like bugs were biting me. I had constant heartburn, my hair was falling out, so my doctor suggested Armour thyroid which is all natural. It has made a huge difference. And by the way, I had stopped taking the levothyroxine for a couple month and first felt great and then started feeling really lousy, so had blood work done and my number was 114.4. On the Armour for 6 weeks and my level is in the middle of the normal range. Armour is not covered by my insurance and costs me about $84. for 3 months, but just found out I can get it from Canada for $55. I hope this information helps you!
Lisa e
nowhere, USA
I don’t think Obama has anything to do with it.
But yes, the Insurance companies are the ones making the profit.
The generics make their money after the patents run out – that’s why the original is so expensive – gotta make up time quick.
I recently went thru 4 generic ‘brands’ of tramadol before I got one that didn’t make me walk sideways. When I asked the pharmacist how many brands she had behind the counter she said ‘8 or 9′. Why? And why do I have to be a test rat for them?
I have started demanding the actual manufacturer brand of meds all around and it’s not easy.
IF anyone has them they are very expensive and most are simply not available.
Something as simple as Levequin, an anitibiotic, is not available 6 out of 6 local pharmacies. It just doesn’t pay to have it. One told me they could order it and have it in a few days, but I need help now?
BTW – my generic Levenox cost $.37 for 10 days. I could have gotten that washing one windshield.
Yes, after reading all the complaints above I will definitely send a letter of complaint to the FDA.
Fat lot o’ good it’ll be. But at least I’m a number! Thanks All!
Sharon
California
I had been taking 100 mg of spironolactone for a year for hair loss and edema associated with hypothyroidism with great and almost immediate success. It was suggested that, since this is a maintenance medication for me for the time being, that I could get it through Humana’s mail order pharmacy and save a little money.
Since spironolactone is a generic medication, I did not expect this would be a problem. SO wrong. Within a couple of weeks of starting the mail order medication, my hair started falling out in ever-increasing amounts. I had aldosterone tested before starting spironolactone (which is an aldosterone blocker) and it had been low in the normal range. After 6 weeks on the mail order medication I was tested again and my aldosterone was very high outside the range….the top was 28 and I was at 40 ! Neither my primary doctor nor my dermatologist could explain this.
Finally after 6 months on the mail order drug and with my hair falling out in golf ball sized hunks every time I washed my hair and having lost all the hair that had previously grown back and with my thyroid levels at near optimal levels, I thought to check whether the generic manufacturer had remained the same… this occurred to me because I know how greatly generic thyroid medication can vary between manufacturers and in comparison to the brands. And LO ! indeed the medication had been changed from that manufactured by Amneal to that manufactured by Qualitest.
I went online and found that many many people have had their symptoms return when using Qualitest products, not just spironolactone (though for that there were lots of reports) but also all kinds of other medications. I had my doctor write me a new prescription for the Amneal generic. Two weeks later my hair loss is almost back to a normal amount, i.e. to what it was before I had a thyroid problem. I reported this to the FDA. In my opinion, the Qualitest spironolactone is worthless and seems to have created a hormonal problem that didn’t exist before I started taking the drug.
I had a similar problem with liothyronine manufactured by Paddock. I tried taking it because Cytomel is so expensive. Because both my doctor and I are aware that the FDA allows generic thyroid medications to vary up to 15% in strength from the brand, she increased my dose by 15%. Prior to taking the Paddock generic, my Free T3 level was near the top of the range and I felt the best I had felt since developing hypothyroidism. After a couple of weeks on the generic I started to feel terrible and had a resumption of symptoms. After 3 months I had new labs and on MORE medication my Free T3 level was now down near the bottom. When I take Cytomel I take it sublingually and because of its sucrose base, it dissolves almost immediately.
The Paddock generic was so hard that I could barely chew it and it tasted like chalk. I tried pulverizing it with a mortor and pestle, thinking I would drink it in water, but the pill was so hard I couldn’t grind it up ! An online search showed the Paddock had a base containing :
calcium sulfate
cellulose, microcrystalline
hypromelloses
talc
silicon dioxide
Since calcium binds thyroid hormones, rendering them less active, it is surprising that a thyroid medication would contain calcium at all but there it is. I discontinued the generic and went back on Cytomel and after about a month I started feeling better. I also reported this to the FDA.
Sandie
St. Charles
I have been taking the Teva generic of Celebrex with good success for over a year. Recently got this through mail-away and they use Greenstone’s version. I have noticed my pain is increasing daily. Not sure if I did something to inflame this or starting to wonder if it is the different manufacturer?
Ann
South Dakota
Hi all. I have been reading the posts on here. I just called the main Walgreens phone number and reported these incidents to them. I too am on Zoloft. I picked up a Rx yesterday and realized they changed manufacturers from Greenstone in the US to Aurobindo from India. I asked them to take this very seriously. They are sending the report on and are looking into it. I urge all of you to do the same. I also reported it to the FDA. I discussed it with the Dr. today and he said it is NEVER good to switch mental health drug manufacturers. Anyway that is my 2 cents. I did contact my local Walgreens and they are letting me bring the Aurobindo product back and ordered Zoloft from Greenstone for me. I wish you all the best!
Lora
Salt Lake City, UT
I can’t believe how similar my husband’s recent experience with Aurobindo vs. Greenstone has been to many of the poor people on this blog! We have been trying to figure out for weeks what’s been going on with him, since changing to Aurobindo Sertraline he has plunged into a deep depression, worse than he has ever been! I am so thankful for finding this information and can now move forward with trying to get Walgreen’s to order Greenstone again or try to locate some elsewhere. I pray for all of you that are suffering so terribly that you make it through this and regain the peace and “normalcy” of your life that you had before changing to this manufacturer’s useless version of Sertraline.
Lora
This is an update regarding my Oct. 19th post. Sadly, my husband has sadly passed away due to suicide on Nov. 8, 2015. I am still waiting for toxicology reports, but I truly believe that the switch of the manufacturer of his Sertraline prescription played a major part in his death. I am so lost without him and feel horribly guilty that I couldn’t save him from this tragedy!
shannon
houston, tx
OMG I am so sorry for your loss and I’m in the same situation right now…except it’s me…I am horrified and frankly pissed off to be honest. It is no way that they can play with someone’s life like that. I’m suing somebody(s)…. and I hope you do the same. Persistence pays and I’m calling anyone who will listen, news stations, news paper, internet, standing on corner with sign…. I have reached my capacity!
Sarah
rains county
I have NEVER had any problems with my blood pressure medication until my last refill. I take Linisopril 10mg and this time I have had severe dizzy spells to almost blacking out when I stand up. I know that generic is the same as name brand but I have to say that this company’s version has something wrong with it! I will NEVER get this brand again!!!
Ann
Call Walgreens 1-800 number and complain. I just did!
Michelle
Seattle, WA
I noticed this last month when picking up my rx refill that the Sertraline (Zoloft) tablets were different, but I know there are several manufacturers of medications, so I didn’t think much of it. Now, after almost a month on the new Walgreens generic Sertraline, my anxiety is at another rise, panic attacks are prevalent and I had no idea until just now researching this drug why thus was happening. I guess I’ll be switching to a different pharmacy. And trying to ride out the next few days in hell…
Lauren
Report AuroBindo to the FDA. Info on their website. Enough complaints hopefully they will do something.
Dave
Atlanta, GA
Michelle, I take the same medication you mentioned, and twice now have glanced at the toilet after I got out of the shower and seen a whole, unmolested pill sitting on the bottom of the bowl. Apparently they go through the digestive system undissolved due to the coating on the tablet. I am trying an experiment of breaking them in half before I take them, to see if this makes a difference. Who knows, maybe worth a try?
Karen
Pennsylvania
My pharmacy just switched to an aurobindo generic for venlafaxine. Ever since my symptoms have been getting worse. Today I had a major episode of tremors, confusion, sweats, and speech problems. So bad that my doctor wanted me to go to the emergency room. Now she told me to stop taking the medicine abruptly and I’m scared to see what is about to happen.
Tim S
Refilled my prescription for sertraline at Walgreens,( the MFG for my drugs went from Greenstone to Aurobindo), I noticed the pill looked different and the MFG seemed different but, I figured it wouldn’t be that big of a deal, the pill description matched the pills inside.
Then after 2 weeks of the drug, I would go home after and I wanted to kill everyone. I was so emotional and all over the place. I literally started to feel schizophrenic and not myself. I hated anyone that crossed my path at home, and I would lock myself in my room for hours, wondering wtf is wrong with me. I just knew I was feeling weird.
Finally at work, someone mentioned a very similar issue they had where they had a bad reaction to a new generic version of a pill they’ve been taking forever. Going home, I was set to figure everything out, but as soon as I closed the door, I had the worst panic attack of my life. I have had anxiety issues for many years and I have overcome this a million times, but this one sent me to the hospital. I called my mom because I felt strange and I was slurring my words and could only answer yes/no questions. My mom came to check up on my and found me face down on the floor having a seizure (ended up being a pseudo-seizure). I was hospitalized for 24 hours. Can I sue someone or contact anybody for this? I feel like this is sickening that you can be on the same drug for years and then they’re allowed to switch generic brands (A TOTALLY DIFFERENT DRUG) without really telling you.
Sharon
NC
In follow up to my previous comment, I have learned that potato starch is NOT a problem for individuals with celiac disease and is, in fact, a safe alternative. But that being said, the generic sertraline from Aurobindo did make me feel like I was on some sort of “speed”, and it appears that others are feeling some pretty negative side effects as well. Hopefully, Walgreen’s will respond by returning to Greenstone for their generic sertraline, and we’ll all “BE WELL” again.
PATTY
WA state
I was switched from Cymbalta to generic and noticed immediately it wasn’t as effective and also weight gain whereas Cymbalta made me lose weight. I got used to it and continued the generic version (insurance won’t cover regular name brand). My pharmacy switched manufacturers this week from “GLOB” at Sun Pharma to APOTEX and when I opened the bottle the smell of plastic was overwhelming and disgusting!! I could not take it. They replaced it with my other manufacturer. I am feeling very discouraged with this whole generic is the same as name brand bologna. It is not the same!!!
Karen
Mpls, Minnesota
I was taking a generic zonisamide made by Caraco Pharmaceutical Laboratories then my pharmacy switched to the generic zonisamide made by Ranbaxy Phamaceuticals, took for a couple of months and started having seizures. I had my pharmacy order the original ones, then felt like I did when I first started taking the zonisamide, tired, somewhat drugged. I’ll give it more time before I declare myself seizure free.
Sharon
North Carolina
I just had a similar experience with Walgreen’s switching from Greenstone’s generic sertraline to one manufactured by Aurobindo. I had done very well for years on the Greenstone generic, but within two days of starting the Aurobindo tablets, I began feeling manic and couldn’t sleep at all. I felt like my brain had gone into overdrive. I also experienced constipation and had headache. I looked the two generics up on Drugs.com and found that the inactive ingredients were almost identical, with the exception of some type of potato starch in the Aurobindo tablets (which would make it pretty bad if you had celiac disease). I did, however, notice a difference in the ORDER of inactive ingredients listed, so that may have an effect on the absorption of the active ingredient. What I do know for certain is that switching generics like this is DANGEROUS and seems to be made solely on the basis of cost, with no examination of the difference in ingredients and the possible effect on the patient (as in the aforementioned potato starch and celiac disease). I have contacted my representative in Washington and asked that this be looked into. It’s time to STOP this practice!
Lauren
New Jersey
Exact same issue. My pharmacy said that they don’t have the Greenstone until October so they gave me all they had left , 20 pills. I’m so angry this is happening to people that I reported this to the FDA website and I encourage all of you to do the same. Make sure that you give the name of the company AuroBindo ( which I also found out is based in India ). I hope they get enough complaints that they recall it or shut down. Walgreens probably bought it from them because it’s cheaper but I won’t stand for this. I’m calling Greenstone tomorrow to see if they can deliver to Walgreens sooner.
Mel
Wisconsin
I have been on Sertraline 25mg manufactured by Greenstone for many years until Walgreens switched to selling the drug manufactured by Aurobindo, in July 2015. I have had the most horrific panic attacks and pervasive anxious feelings since the switch. I have never before experienced such mental anguish, which is chemical and due to the change of manufacturer. (I am fortunate not to have any major stressors to blame.)
Apparently Walgreens stopped selling Greenstone since it was more expensive than Aurobindo. Walgreens informed me today that they will “try” to get me a refill from Greenstone. I was also able to find a small independent pharmacy which carries the Greenstone drug.
David
Denver, Co
I have had this same problem. I tried calling Walgreens Pharmacy and they refused to help in any way. I really don’t know what to do. I can’t find any nearby pharmacies that carry the Greenstone brand sertraline.
Melissa
Denver
I’m having the same problem with the auro bindo generic. Been on it for two weeks and feel horrible. I just had my pharmacist fill my prescription with the brand and not the generic. I’ve taken the brand before and it’s so much more expensive but I’m not taking this junk generic anymore
Lauren
New Jersey
Had the same issue. Walgreens said they might be getting it in October so I have to wait. I urge everyone here to report AuroBindo to the FDA website and call Greenstone also to see if they can ship it to a pharmacy for you. Ridiculous.
Lauren
New Jersey n
I urge everyone here to report to the FDA with your issue. If they get enough complains they might just actually look into it and recall.
Tara
United States
Same as you, Mel. Have been on Zoloft for 17yrs. My pharmacy just switched to AuroBindo, and I’ve been crazy since I got my prescription filled: emotional, panic attacks. I’m calling my doctor tomorrow. I can’t do this.
K
Northern VA
Wow! Same here! I was just thinking maybe I had been missing doses!?! Walgreens has had Greenstone for so long I never even thought to check, but tonight looked at the bottle, and sure enough, Aurobindo. Are they insane to mess with such an important medication with no warning? Calling in the morning. Get me my Greenstone back!
Danielle
Lawrence, KS
Holy crap, you guys! I have been having major anxiety and mood issues since this summer (2015). I haven’t been able to figure it out. I noticed a couple of weeks ago that my sertraline from Walgreens had a new manufacturer, Aurobindo. It made me wonder so I went to check it out. As a weird aside, I’m a gardener and collect seed from my native plants to propagate in the spring, and old pill bottles are perfect for storing the seed in so I have all my old bottles. Sure as heck, the old manufacturer was Greenstone and changed to Aurobindo this summer, which is when I started having problems. I started researching it and found this site and confirmed the change. I’m going to have my provider switch my prescription to brand name zoloft immediately. My quality of life is suffering. This isn’t a game for people with anxiety and depression. Makes me so angry! I will also be reporting it to the FDA as well.
Sue
Michigan
I have been on Zoloft since 1991. I switched to Sertraline HCl as soon as it was available. I have been stable on 200 mg for several years. Since my last refill I have noticed a gradual decline in my mood. I am ‘down in the hole’ again and can’t seem to find a way out. I have even been obsessing with suicidal ideation again. It’s a scary place to be in. Situationally nothing has changed in my life. I am in a therapy, so I feel safe. I am starting to wonder about the effectiveness of my Sertraline 100 mg. It is an oval, yellow tablet with the imprint G 4910/100. My next refill is from a different manufacturer. It is an oval, yellow tablet with the imprint A/1 8. This change causes me further concern. I was curious if anyone else has had a return of symptoms while taking Sertraline vs Zoloft.
Tamara
Pasadena, ca
I have had almost the exact experience as you, but my pharmacy did not change brands ( Kaiser has GREENSTONE) I just feel like this was a bottle at the end of line and maybe got shorted (and I feel like suddenly I was taken off them and all those horrible thing start happing in my body) I don’t know if that can happen at these companies. This has not only happened with stetraline, but some other medications I have taken, overtime I bring this up to a DR, they just say that it is not possible… but they are exactly like to name brand – they are not. I’m writing this just to document my message and someone out there will do something about this.
Cliff
Portland OR
I had the exact same issue as Jennifer from Boston. Sertraline was switched from Greenstone to Aurobindo at Wallgreeens. I started feeling anxious, lightheaded, and I had a Vesovagal reaction and passed out at work. After 2 weeks of this I have called Walgreens and they have ordered the Greenstone for me. I have been on this drug for over 10 years and I have never had a reaction like this.
Rachel
Clarksville, Tn
I have started taking lisinopril and spironolactone manufactured by qualitest and my last blood pressure reading was high. I haven’t gained weight, actually have lost. And my sodium intake is less. I have noticed I haven’t been visiting the restroom as often as I did taking a different brand. Last night I took one of my old spironolactone and I’ve been urinating every two to three hours and my feet aren’t as puffy. I’m thinking the quality of Qualitest is not there. It’s not working. How do we get checked out?
Cheryl
MA
I never realized there were different manufacturers for generic medications. I recently refilled a prescription for escitalopram, which I’ve been taking with great success for a long time. But shortly after I got the refill, I started having really pronounced symptoms. I’ve been joking, “who switched my Lexapro for placebos?”
I called the pharmacy today just to make sure there hadn’t been a mixup. The pharmacist told me they’d switched manufacturers for escitalopram. I asked more questions and found that the generic made by Lupin was working just fine, but on the recent refill I got the generic made by Accord. I might as well be taking tic tacs.
My doctor called every pharmacy in town, and no one has the Lupin escitalopram. So now she’s calling in a script for Lexapro name brand only, no generic. It absolutely infuriates me, because the generic has been working so well for such a long time. Now I’m going to have to pay more for brand name. It doesn’t feel fair.
Susan
NJ
The same thing happened to me. I was on liquid generic escitalpram (lexapro) made by Camber Pharmaceuticals and it was working great. I switched to tablets made by Accord-Healthcare, and withdrawal started within a day of taking them. It also explains why the tablets didn’t work in the first place when I took them for a month this past July. They also caused a lot of congestion, which Lexapro isn’t supposed to do. Of course my pharmacy cannot get Camber tablets and my insurance doesn’t cover brand names. The Pharmacy does carry Lupin, which is made in India, and unfortunately a lot of Indian pharmaceuticals provide sub-par generics. But since you say that Lupin was working for you, maybe it will work for me too.
Jennifer
Boston, MA
Recently filled my Rx for generic sertraline and was informed the manufacturer changed (went from Greenstone to Aurobindo). I know from past experience this can be an issue but I was trying to go with the flow. Fast forward after taking the Aurobindo for 2 weeks and it was scary how dark my mood/thoughts were getting. Walgreen’s actually handled it great when I went in to tell them I was not responding well at all to the Aurobindo sertraline and needed to switch back. They were able to get me the Greenstone manufacturer again within a couple of days but it took another 2 weeks to get it back into my system and start to feel like I was in control of my thoughts again…pretty terrifying really. Overall bad experience with sertraline manufactured by Aurobindo.
D
VA
I take the Zolpidem generic Ambiem.The oval shape with E and the #79 works great but the generic round shape with TEVA/74 doesn’t. I must say it is a difference in the mfg.
Carol
Pennsylvania
I find the generic brand Qualitest is of little help with my anxiety while Tva & Mylan both work
jean
maryland
Been taking Sandoz valsartan and pharmacy switched to Aurobindo. Not working and must have a lot of fillers as it also upsets my stomach.
Jason
Birmingham, Al
I started using Apotex Metformin 2 months ago (March/15) sourced from Publix due to being a “FREE” drug. In the past 2 months my blood sugar has spiked by 40-50 points on average in comparison to the version I received from Walgreens. I guess free is a substitute for CRAPPY MEDICINES!!
jay
FL
I had the same experience Publix free metformin my numbers were 150-160 switched back to Walmart’s $15 for 90 days supply and my numbers are back to normal 120-125. Spend the money get REAL Drugs. This must be horrible for the elderly who move south and think their diabetes is getting worse, when in fact it really isn’t.
Alice
Easton PA
I just restarted pravastatin sodium 10 mg. I was given a prescription manufactured By Apotex. I have never had such bad side effects. I don’t think this was “up to snuff”. I have requested my pharmacy to only give this drug manufactured by Teva.
CDH
HI
Ever since the switch from the Oxycodone 5mg / 325mg round white tablet w/ #512 on one side & scored on the other – the switch was to Aurobindo Pharm (supposed equivalent) U15 oblong tablet – These Aurobindo tabs DON’T WORK AT ALL !!! My pain levels are thru the roof with little relief of parastesia pains – I talked to the Pharmacy/Pharmacist but to no avail – they claim I’m the only one complaining !? Huh? – After seeing the web results, I don’t believe I’m the “the only complainer” & they must be full of shizaam. I don’t know what to do – almost 1 yr. w/ so much pain – Oh yeah, BTW -I still have just a few of the “old round 512’s” & still they work way better than a “Fresh Aurobindo Pharm U15”. I must say – these Aurobindo U15’s suck because they simply don’t work. :(
Tanya
Durham NC
I have been on generic lexapro for a while but on occasion, the pharmacist will switch the manufacturer and I get the escitalopram oxalate that has a letter M on it. The last time I took this, it made me so incredibly tired and light headed that I could barely function ( I am on a 10mg dose). It has been a while since this has happened but last week I was given the drug with M on it again and same symptoms are happening. The pharmacist insists it’s the same as other generic (that has an I/G on it), but I just can’t believe this based on symptoms. Has anyone else had a problem with the generic with the M on it? Who is the manufacturer of the one with M on it and how can I report it?
Molly
Maine
Sorry this is a bit late, but any pills of any type of medication that have a boxed M on them are made by Mallinckrodt Pharmaceuticals. Sometimes people mistakenly think this brand mark means Mylan (another company) but they are not.
KoricleWA
I have stories and anecdotes about this subject for days, but as we all know, that won’t make a difference when it comes to enacting real regulatory reform for generics. In an ideal (or even obvious) world, the fact that *thousands* of people have noticed differences in their medication from brand to brand would be enough to, at least, warrant some further investigation into the matter. This post alone is a microcosm of that point – it’s over seven years old, and it is *still* gaining comment-traction, attention, and search-engine-generated results from people who want to know why they’re experiencing differences in their medication from brand to brand.
As far as statistics go, the number of people who take X-medication and the number of people who have noticed discrepancies in X-medication after switching from name-brand to generic (or after switching from one generic to another) is large enough to make a convincing pie chart. It’s a bit curious that the issue is still present and unchanged after wide speculation and concern. If an average business found a large percentage of its consumers expressing quality-inconsistency, it wouldn’t be long before the business was forced to change… or fold (word-of-mouth, competition, governmental regulation and/or quality control, failure to comply with standards of safety, etc etc etc). So why hasn’t anything changed when this many people have recognized inconsistencies in their prescription medications? The ‘business’ in question is not your ‘average business’. It’s extremely difficult for average folks (even if they are also the business’s primary consumers) to enact large-scale scrutiny/reform/transparency when the business or industry 1. generates significant money (and is therefore responsible for large economic growth), 2. finances scientific research or other studies (which happen to often cross-benefit mutual industries and/or interested parties), or 3. actively participates in a symbiotic relationship with political affiliations. Yet if anyone tries to point this out (that is, “what separates the “average business” from a pharmaceutical company) they’ll be accused of sounding like a conspiracy-fueled, tinfoil-hat-wearing loon.
Brenda
Georgia
As of Jan 2 2015, I am now paying almost $300.00 ea month for2 brand name drugs – Maxide and Glucophage. The generics used to work but haven’t for a long time. I have previously had to pay
more, but the difference is almost $300 compared to $100 ea month. They told me a letter from Dr will not even be considered.
Thank you for any help.
Lena
Ohio
The Metformin pills from India are so cheap, Walmart, Target and Supermarkets are giving monthly supplies for free. We all need to write to the FDA. Sun Pharma, AscendLabs are falsifying quality records. And the pills don’t work. No one cares!
susan
iowa
You should know that synthroid has never been approved by the FDA because it is a very old drug. I took it for a few years. Then broke out in a rash over all of my body. Culprit after many many tests was Synthroid. Switched to levothyroxine and no problems. Check out the color of the pills that cause issues. I cannot take pills with green dye in them.
Gretchen Saaduddin
Los Angeles
Have you heard anything about Metformin by Major Pharmaceuticals not working? For some reason the VA sent my brother many more bottles than he could use of the 1000 mg strength, which he was supposed to break in half and take 1 bid. My mom ran out of hers and was given some of my brothers. His blood sugar never changed at all with this Major Metformin, which I found odd. Before my mom took the VA Major brand, her blood sugar which was quite well controlled with her own prescribed Metformin. It promptly went up to almost 200, and has never gone below 125 previously. Why is this? Is some weird research being done on vets that we know nothing about? With all the recent VA problems I am wondering if I inadvertently uncovered something. They have really been pushing insulin on him, because his blood sugar is so high. Something really stinks here, and I would like to know what is going on.
Mrs. M
OH
Interesting! I got pushed into mail-order pharmacy via insurance (thanks, Obama!) and my metformin is a different manufacturer. Have taken it for about 30 days and my morning b.s. readings are too high; I’ve even slightly increased the Levemir I take daily and it still isn’t working. Tomorrow, back to my local pharmacy to get meds from previous manufacturer. I pray it makes a difference! Btw: old meds from Ascend, new from Aurobindo. Also — why are the majority of our meds made in India?
Dennis
Washington
Major Pharmaceuticals also supplies a generic of Tylenol that hasn’t worked for me so I went back to the Costco brand (Kirkland).
I don’t know about the VA owning Major Brand (which is out of Livonia, MI).
Another med that I get from the VA is Baclofen. I get that pill in 3 different
shapes, Each is verified based on shape/color/imprint but it shows how difficult it can be to keep up with even one med. The VA always shops for a better price.
If I bring an issue to their attention they “explain” that the side effects aren’t always terrible so don’t worry when the printout they ship with the prescription says to NOT take this if you’re taking that.
Juanita
akron ohio
seems strange that the price of synthroid and levithroxide have gotten very expensive, I recall when the drug stores were envolved in a class action and in my casse returned me for 100.00 for their tactics when I first had synthroid it was around 6.00 for a 90 day script. If the item is cheap they discontinue the product, not fair tactics
Bettie
San Antonio TX
I had been taking Synthroid for about 15 years when I went on Medicare and Tricare for Life and started getting prescriptions from Tricare’s Express scripts. They substituted a generic, and very soon I started gaining weight (I have never had a problem with weight), I couldn’t get enough sleep, and my hair and nails became brittle. I went to my MD who checked my thyroid levels and said they were OK.
I went online to search for thyroid problems and found lots of reports of the same problem with the generic. I asked my MD for a prescription for the Synthroid brand and my symptoms disappeared within days! Tricare won’t pay for the brand, so I have to pay for it myself. It is quite expensive, almost a dollar a pill.
BetsyR
How do we report problems with “physically defective” generic pills? One of my medications recently had a generic version released, and the tablets are literally Falling Apart in the bottle!! I’ve filled the prescription 2 times so far, and there have been a Lot of broken pills in both bottles. They come pre-packaged in sealed 30-day supply bottles (packaged & sealed by the manufacturer), so I know the problem isn’t caused by my pharmacy mishandling the tablets.
My only options for now are to either discard the broken pills and hope there are enough left for me to be allowed to refill the Rx without it being “too early to refill”. Or I can try to match up the pieces like a bunch of little puzzles to assemble a “full” tablet. I’ve done this successfully with a few tablets, but seriously, it’s getting ridiculous! I was told by the pharmacy tech that I can’t return the medication for a refund, but I think I’m going to call again and speak with the head pharmacist, store manager, regional office, etc.
What’s even more troubling, though: if the generic pharmaceutical company can’t even manufacturer a pill that doesn’t Fall Apart (a pretty basic requirement!), how can I trust Anything about manufacturing of this pill? How do I even know the active ingredient was synthesized properly & safely?
The company is Orchid Pharmaceuticals, headquartered in India. They have a location listed in Princeton NJ as well, but the manufacturing is done in India. I have the phone numbers for both locations, and I considered calling one or both of them. But at this point I’d rather report them to a US federal agency like the FDA, or any other relevant agency. Especially since these agencies keep records (I assume) of the number and types of problems reported with specific drugs and the drug manufacturing companies.
Any suggestions on who to contact to report this? I’ve also alerted my pharmacy about it (both the local pharmacy and their toll-free customer support). Pharmacies have the option to order their generics from a different company if needed, and I would seriously hope they’d change suppliers, but I suspect it’s not an easy thing to “demand” that from a pharmacy.
Louise
Michigan
Has anyone noticed problems with generic cymbalta manufactured by Lupin? I am having symptoms of withdrawal after taking it two days – light headedness, some nausea, insomnia.
Judy T.
Wisconsin USA
Not sure where to turn. I switched from name brand cymbalta to duloxetine hcl manf by Lupin pharm based in India. I had immediate return of depression symptoms including suicidal ideation. Many people on the net complained about its ineffectiveness. I did follow through with c/o to FDA. I’ve started paperwork. Lupin wanted my entire supply of pills. I sent 6. I have a supply still. 4 days ago I received new refill of duloxetine hcl from lupin but different lot number. Already I am stable, happy and more functional. I believe lupin released this generic with low amt of effective ingredient just to see if they could get by with it. This latest supply is effective. Seems that should be illegal.
I have been fighting suicidal thoughts for past three months. I’ve needed monthly pdoc appts and numerous medical appts. My fibro flared up requiring a course of PT with possibly of pain management referral. I can’t find case histories against lupin. Not sure where to turn. If you can help me or refer me i would really appreciate your time.
Jenny
NY
I’ve been prescribed both Ambien Generic by Teva and Generic Klonopin by Activas! After over a decade with no problems with Watson being the generic company my medication came to a halt and no longer works! At first my DR increased my Klonopin to a whopping 8mg daily and Ambien to 20mg switching every other month with Ambien CR! I’m at the point I need to have to pay more money to get the brand! The FDA has approved all these generic pharmaceutical companies that are overseas and are NOT effective! 8 mg of generic Klonopin doesn’t even make me drowsy! It’s not a tolerance issue because it literally happened when my pharmacy switched brands back in February! If I take a brand it works in its full capacity! I also had issues when prescribed generic Percocet 10/325 by Activis!
The Watson version worked wonders after major oral surgery yet Activas brand barely dulled the pain and gave me sever diarrhea! I felt sick and jittery while Watson eliminated pain and pressure, no stomach issues and did not cause jitters or racing heart beat! I actually slept! My mental health with my Ambien and Klonopin is far more worth paying more that to put drugs that contain unknown fillers from foreign companies!
BetsyR
@ JENNY from NY. Have you mentioned this to your pharmacy? Sometimes pharmacies will order a particular version of the generic for you. If your current pharmacy won’t special order, are there other pharmacies in your area that do? Better yet, have you tried calling around to see if other pharmacies carry your meds from by the previous manufacturer (Watson)? Since pharmacies periodically change vendors (as you know too well), there may be a pharmacy out there that carries and/or may be willing to order the Watson version. Good luck, and sorry to hear you’re having to deal with all that.
Katie
florida
I have been taking 20 mg. of lisinipril for several years. I haven’t noticed a change in my blood pressure until I got a refill and the manufacturer was accord healthcare. Most days I have to take 2 tablets to keep my blood pressure controlled with this new refill. I plan on seeing my doc soon to discuss this and will be calling the pharmacy.
Rodney
Illinois
After two months of taking the Teva diazepam generic, I was having heart palpitations, sweating, insomnia, to a *much* greater degree than normal. I just got my Rx refilled with the same Teva brand. If I continue to have trouble I am going to have to have my doctor ask for a switch because I do NOT feel comfortable talking to my pharmacist about matters such as these because they always think, as is said a thousand times here, they think it’s “all in your head” if you claim your meds are weak… and I know that it is not in my head. The only way I stayed out of the ER this month was the fact that I had one day of the Watson brand saved… How to piss off a Ppharm? Ask for Watson brand
Francis
Arkansas
I was switched to a different manufacturer and I am having a very hard time this month. I feel like screaming!
ruth
The doctor prescribed this medicine for rapid heartbeat. The pharmacy filled it about 3 times, then substituted the medicine. My heart was erratic and pounding after about a week or two. It got so bad, I called the pharmacist, who said it is exactly the same just different manufacturers.
Then it got worse, I called the doctor’s office, the receptionist was not sympathetic, but said to come on in. The doctor met me at the door, said it was not my meds, even tho it started when i started taking the substitution.
After a very unpleasant time of it, he reluctantly prescribed the first meds, if I would go to a different pharmacy. The way I could tell it was the first, was it was a larger pill that you could half.
I take one half in the morning and one half at night. The other pill was a smaller pill, with no half marking on it, My heart still hasn’t settled down but is much better.
stacie
I’ve been taking Levothyroxine for several years. Manufacturer Sandoz 25mcg pills dissolve on my tongue the second I start to swallow water.
This can’t be good for efficacy – I can’t find one bit of information while researching for several months now.
Ryan
Michigan
I have been researching this myself and can’t find anything either… I was taking them for about 3 months, and in that time I had blood work done and my numbers went from 1 to 5.5. So I called around to other pharmacies asking about manufacturers and found one that uses Mylan which is the Manufacturer that I previously used… I noticed that they aren’t accredited by the BBB where Mylan is.. Maybe there is something to that, I have know idea..
Bd
In 2013, while traveling, ran out of Effexor XR 75 mg. Received generic refill by Teva at a Walgreens. Within 2 days went into what I think was Effexor withdrawal — many side effects, including fuzzy vision. Switched back to Effexor XR in another city, which worked, but it took weeks before I was back to normal. When a generic releases most of the active ingredient at once instead of slowly over the 24- hour period, it is dangerous. FDA should decide these generics are NOT equivalent to extended release brand name meds. Thank goodness I was not driving when my body got messed up.
Marcus
Almost every month one of my prescriptions has changed formula or manufacturer. I take 3 psychiatric medications, and the change ranges from having a bad week of adjustment to my current period where I feel like I am in all-out withdrawal. These generics companies are not consumer-focused but investor-focused. When I see news reports of recalls, the CEOs talk about how it won’t hurt their stock this quarter and that things are full speed ahead.
If you don’t know what benzodiazepine withdrawal is, it has been described as worse than heroin withdrawal. And that’s what I have been going through while trying to stay in college for the last 4 weeks. I know it started to the day when my brand of medication was changed. I know that long-term use of benzodiazepines is not good. I was 14 years old when I was put on them, and I can’t get off now—although in essence it feels like I am since the brand switch.
I don’t trust any of these companies. Why is it that we know where our food is made but we accept generics made in India in factories that are now regularly shut down by the FDA? The FDA needs to be completely reformed and actually start regulating and TESTING these drugs!
robert
I searched for a view minutes and already found these two alarming articles. http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/09/france-drug-idUSL5N0EL0GT20130609 and this http://www.fda.gov/ICECI/EnforcementActions/WarningLetters/2013/ucm344476.htm
robert
I am prescribed diazepam, had several brands over the 40 years I’m using it. Apotex and PCM =TEVA 5mg are (for me) by far the worst. This week I got Apotex thought I was going to die. Heart rate more than 140, impossible to sleep. I phoned and convinced the pharmacist to switch back to Actavis, those are what my m.d. prescribed Feel reborn. But it makes me sad for people who cannot do anything about it. Believe me staying friendly and polite to someone who is almost killing me was not easy. I live in the Netherlands
F.P.
FYI. A similar story as told by others here. I have been taking generic Zoloft or sertraline, 50gm for a few years. My pharmacy, a large chain, will sometimes switch the generic manufacturer from time to time, I suppose based on cost or availability or both. I noticed my symptoms reappeared when taking the Aurobindo Phama generic. Of course, you are never certain if its the meds or something else going on. But I was bothered by the perceived lack of effect when taking the generic so much, that I asked the pharmacy, and paid out of pocket almost $200 / 30 day supply, for the name brand Zoloft. I noticed an IMMEDIATE difference taking the brand name. Since the name brand is so expensive and not covered by insurance, I hope to at least find a generic manufacturer product that will perform as well as the name brand.
Virginia P.
I took a name brand thyroid medication from childhood (I am now almost forty) and was given a generic without warning while living in California. My life started falling apart. I lost moments of memory. I had trouble doing basic things. I was writing a dissertation at a top university and my ability to organize my work and thoughts fell apart in less than six months. As I had no warning I also had no suspicion of why or what was happening. I had brain fog, exhaustion, depression, and ultimately three different kings of anemia–leaving me with a feeling of electric shocks running through my body.
Is there something I can do to make sure this doesn’t happen to others? It had a terrible effect on me personally and professionally–and several months of my life just feel like a blur. I want some answers … I am more or less fine now — I’m still taking supplements to try to fix the anemias. I think it is understandable that I am upset. I will write to the FDA and to Wallgreen’s (where I was unwittingly filling the prescription). This happened in California and North Carolina–and I don’t understand why the latter since they are not supposed to be able to change medications without telling you. My feeling is this is malpractice in fact if not in law …
Patti
Wow this website is incredible! I honestly thought I was losing my mind as did my Dr. I have been on toprol for 5 years with no problems …until the pharmacy I use (no names needed) and when switched to the generic I have felt like walking dead.
My Dr. has notified pharmacy that I can’t take generics in my Dilantin and synthroid… but the metoprolol is generic and every month seems to be a different story… one month I can feel fine and than the next feel shaky, foggy, depressed and trembling legs.Anyone else experience this issue… I’m off to see the doctor next week and I’m sure she will think I am over the edge because she weaned me off generic Zoloft because I was not feeling any effect from it. Please someone tell me I’m not over-reacting.
Crystal
NC
I also live in NC and can’t comprehend why docs here don’t understand that the Synyhroid is so dosage specific that once it’s right, it shouldn’t be tampered with! Same thing happened to me after moving here so I feel your pain. It was a nightmare, first they had me on antidepressants and Librium. Didn’t want to listen and accept that generics are different. Now I’m disabled with arthritis from a car wreck many years later. Same battle trying to get neurologist and pharmacist to accept pain med generics, the cheaper they get, less effective and shorter shelf life. Not years but weeks! Glad I got my Synthroid back, but this pain is getting to me. Neck and spine. Ouch. And I will not take extra or put anything up my nose except my pinky! Small nostrils. Good luck to you all. Pharma can buy low and sell high. Docs don’t listen much anymore as we are on a stop watch. Ouch. Goodnight and God bless.
AB
I’ve been on Loestrin 1/20 made by Duramed for awhile now and I’ve done quite well on it. My menopausal symptoms abated and I felt well with no side effects. For several months I took a generic version called microgestin made by Watson. I felt no difference from the brand name and did well. When we had a pay cut at work, I began to order my medicine from Caremark. We’ve had many problems there, including wrong drugs, wrong dosages, incorrect information given over the phone, conflicting information on the phone vs. online secure messaging, but the pertinent problem here is with the generic version of Loestrin they sent me: Junel manufactured by Teva. It took me a long time to figure out what was wrong.
Gradually I began to have hot flashes, night sweats, mood swings, many of the troubles that had me begin the medicine in the first place. I did not attribute it to the medicine until very recently when I said “you know, it feels as though I’m not taking any hormone at all! Just placebo day after day!” I looked at the manufacturer and sure enough, Teva. Previously I had a doctor ask our pharmacist not to use Teva with another medicine so I guess this isn’t so shocking.
I wrote to Caremark and asked if I could switch to another generic or brand name. I’m going to call my doc on Monday and tell her about it. I still have some of this batch left. I wish I could have it tested somehow.
LR
I found the same issue with my generic script that I just had filled at a local pharmacy. When I checked package, it wasn’t made by the same manufacturer that had made my previous generic imitrex. It is made in India. The other generic worked fine. This same pharmacy filled another script with product made in Israel, where previously the meds were made in NJ. This particular script is a topical chemotherapy. Not the same in texture and when you open the tube it oozes and you can’t stop it. The tube is $381 so to end up wasting 10 to 15 applications every tine you open the tube is unacceptable.
These two scripts came from a local pharmacy not a chain, so I would have thought they would be better about issues like that but I guess they go for the cheapest possible suppliers.
SL
Is there somewhere you can have medication analyzed if you have suspicions that a generic is not complying with guidelines? I would be willing to pay if there is a legitimate way to do have a medication analyzed. I reported my concerns to my pharmacist, but only got the standard company line of generics are by law biologically equal to their brand name counterparts. Thank you.
PEOPLE’S PHARMACY RESPONSE: Such an analysis is sadly far too pricey for an individual or even a small company like ours to undertake. Do report your concern to MedWatch.
Teresa
I was taking a 5 mg generic for flexeril (cyclobenzaprine) for fibromyalgia pain. I found that 1/2 of the tablet (round pink TL 211) was sufficient to block pain and allow me a decent nights sleep. I had to switch to another pharmacy and they filled the prescription with a different generic (round blue M 771). My usual dose of 1/2 pill for the blue pill did not work at all. I upped the dose (yes this was OK, the prescription states 1/2 to 1 pill 3x daily) and took a whole pill nightly for two weeks with no noticeable effect. I had 5 of the pink pills tucked in my travel bag so that I would be sure to have some medication in case of emergencies. I gave up and took 1/2 of one of the pink pills and slept all night.
I took the prescription back to the pharmacy to talk to the pharmacist. He stated he had never heard of any such thing and that it must have been my body that changed. Obviously not true. After I asked specifically, he stated that he had received no other complaints. I asked specifically, and he stated that there was no way to report that the drug didn’t seem to work, no way to test the drug, and no way to file a complaint. All he would suggest is that I up the dosage to 10 mg.
I’ve been searching the FDA website, etc. for some guidance on who to report to or complain to and this is the only place I’ve found so far. Why isn’t there an official place to which one can report less than effective generic drugs?
Francis M.
Arkansas
Hey I know the feeling. Going through the same problem.
robert
I was switched from Avtavis witch was fine to me to TEVA diazepam I’ve got ill an hour after taking it, heart irregularity is the scariest and the spastic like uncontrollable movements. Now I’m trying to get the old Actavis again. Lucky I have some til Monday when I have to phone pd, pharmacy, and TEVA what in the name of hell is in the tablets. It is no diazepam.
DTM
I wanted to report that Teva’s generic drug Zolipidem 10MG (Ambien) is ineffective in treating insomnia . Just tried this brand which my pharmacist substituted for Mylan Mfg. which I use to get RX from. There is no comparison between the two brands in the way the medication gives expected results. FDA should look into this since Teva is selling a lot of Zolipidem to a lot of unsuspecting people and making a lot of money for a poorly manufactured drug.
AW
I find that I have to take twice as much of the generic Imitrex to get about two-thirds of the effectiveness of the name-brand, but I’m unable to get the name-brand anymore because of the cost.
usdoc
Generic Zonegran, manufactured as Zonisamide, 100mg by Mylan are causing the skin on the palms and fingers on my hands and feet to peel and sluff. This is only with this one manufacturer, and it is nearly continuous year round.
I need Zonisamide to fight a broken sciatic nerve’s pounding pain, and now radiation nerve damage.
B. Coleman
Thank you for providing this forum.
As a 63 year old male, I take a variety of generic drugs. I have, many of us have, grown to depend on them for our health.
We are seeing now many of the problems involving purity and bio equivalence that were predicted, coming to light. I had been taking the generic bupropion, Wellbutrin XL since it became available several years ago and have had my suspicions. This recent inquiry into this product explains some things. Many doctors, nurses and pharmacists considered my concerns as “all in my head”. Many symptoms, unless severe, are often not evaluated properly.
I expect this is only the tip of the iceberg as there are hundreds of different drugs in many strengths and forms. I take several pain medications they seem to vary in performance, at times. Thanks again for providing a forum to address these issues. I will continue to be vigilant for myself, my family and loved ones.
LK
Generic form of Clarinex (desloratadine) by Virtus Pharmaceuticals did NOT work for me because it caused increasingly severe gastrointestinal symptoms over several weeks. Finally I stopped taking it in hopes that I’d get some relief, and almost immediately things improved. I suspected this medication after a few weeks because nothing else had changed. Also, the pills have a bad odor and taste (musty odor, almost like penicillin). The G.I. symptoms became pretty bad (diarrhea 5-6x/day, to the point where I almost couldn’t leave the house). I’m wondering if one of the “fillers” is the culprit.
tamcush
HI It doesn’t matter what spelling they use. There are articles on the internet. its the manufacturer that is important. In the effected Wellbutrin, it’s TEVA Manufacturers. Their version of generic Wellbutrin is the one at issue and they “voluntarily” recalled it. Check with you pharmacist on who’s drug they sold you. My daughter is better after switching her meds and 18 days inpatient, she is stable again.
w d p
I’m confused, I take BUPRONION HCL XL TABS and have developed the same symptoms as others claim in earlier comments. I had been taking Welbutrin in the past and got along fine. I ask my druggist yesterday as I’m getting concern and she said that is was Budeprion that was recalled not Bupropion that was recalled. ( notice the spelling ) so what is the real story ?? please someone answer because in need support to get my Doctor to get me off of this… How does one ween from a drug ?
What is the difference between the spelling ???
Thanks wdp
John
My insurance, Tricare, demands generics. I take Fosinopril for my blood pressure. They switch to a different generic manufacture of it, every third or fourth prescription refill. Every time they do that, my BP goes up. It usually takes months to get it stabilized again. I have gone from 10mg a day (TEVA manufacture-to now 40 mg a day (Eon/Sandoz). I would happily pay a premium or surcharge for a quality manufacture of Fosinopril, just to keep from having to go through that. I’m 60 years old and don’t need the grief. All generics are not the same. All manufactures of the same generic drug are not the same. I complained to Tricare about it. They said it was not their problem because I had already paid for it.
Linda
Has Anyone concentrated on the inert ingredients in generic formulations?
Recently, I took a generic of Keppra, a brand-name drug that worked well for 7 years but which costs 1000’s of Dollars a year. The generic, which costs 320 a year, meant unbearable itching and burning. I finally had numb feet–Peripheral neuropathy… from which I hope I am recovering. No generic formulation has the same formulation as Keppra. Yet, these other ingredients are misnamed inert. They all have functions. They are chosen for their precise role. They are not inert. I had a reaction to one of them.
Linda
Tammy C
My daughter has recently been diagnosed with Bipolar Disease in January of this year. We thought after 2 inpatient admissions, we thought that we had her stabilized with her meds. THEN, the insurance company that I work for, forced us to use generic Seroquel and Wellbutrin. Now after 6 months of dealing with her sliding back into depression, we have the suggestion that the generic Seroquel does not work as well and now there is a voluntary recall or withdrawal of the Wellbutrin.
I am at a loss for what to do. Is anyone else having this problem with the Seroquel? Her doctor’s office seemed to be all to familiar with the problem and put her on a 3rd drug, Celexa. They have now doubled the dose of the Celexa but she is barely able to function.
HP
Here is a link to the article about the FDA pulling TEVA generic Wellbutrin XL300. Note that in this article at Q19, there is a place to report adverse events to generic Wellbutrin XL. PLEASE, if you have had an adverse effect from generic Wellbutrin (any brand), REPORT IT to the FDA!!! Maybe we can finally get their attention about this serious problem!
https://web.archive.org/web/20121118102515/http://www.fda.gov/Drugs/DrugSafety/PostmarketDrugSafetyInformationforPatientsandProviders/ucm322160.htm
Jennifer B.
Just wanted to chime in with the hope that it will be noted by the FDA.
After taking Zoloft for 3+ years, which helped me come out of my depression and anxiety, I switched to generic when it first became available.
Within 3 weeks I was a wreck! Jittery, depressed, anxious – all kinds of side effects I had not experienced on the brand name.
Fortunately I realized what was going on. I switched back to brand – which I pay cash for – and have been happy and side effect free for years!
SR
Heard this morning that Teva’s generic brand of Wellbutrin 300XL pulled. I too have been on either the brand or generic of Wellbutrin 300XL for YEARS. I’ve had ups and downs but never attributed them to the generic form of the medication. It certainly makes sense now.
After reading all the heartbreaking comments posted here since 2007, I sincerely hope you all have found some relief in your medication and can afford it. Too bad it took so long for the FDA to acknowledge what was being reported.
Ann P. H.
Our son takes Depakote as a seizure medication. A local PA changed his prescription to the generic form of Depakote, without our knowledge. When we begin to notice negative changes in our son, we took him to his neurologist who was livid that his seizure medication had been switched to a generic. He must have the brand name seizure med. I feel this is true for other medications as well, but saw first hand the difference this switch made!!!
Susan R
This is EXACTLY how I feel that I pay a lot for insurance and cannot even decide which medications to take without a PRIOR AUTHORIZATION or trying one med first on a trial and it not work before the insurance will pay for the medication I’ve been taking all along. It’s insane!
Laura N-B
Depakote is one of several epilepsy medications that are “Narrow Therapeutic Index” (NTI) drugs. Dilantin and Tegretol are also NTI drugs. Narrow Therapeutic Index means that there is very little dosage difference between the dose at which it is effective and the dose at which the drug is toxic. For generics, the FDA allows too much variability in the bioavailability of active ingredients (anywhere from 80% to 125% of stated bioavailability) for generics to be substituted in NTI drugs.
For example, if you are stable on your medication from ABC generic company for several months and they make the drug at 125% of bioavailability, and then next month you get it from XYZ company and they make it at 80% — you are going to have a problem of ineffective levels of drug in your blood on the XYZ product.
If your insurance company is insisting on generics make sure your pharmacy always gets the generics from the same manufacturer – so that the likelihood of variability is reduced.
BJR
I have been taking glimperide to help control diabetes for the past 10 years. My last two refills of the generic drug glimperide were produced in India. My blood sugar has increased a good 20 points because the drug produced in India is either of poor quality or not the correct strength.
What ever happened to keeping Americans working in this country? Is everything about making a buck these days? How can we trust overseas factories to produce top quality and out there the F&DA does not do as thorough a checking process there as they do here?
BJR
JB
Until recently I have never had a problem with generics. I was switched to generic ditropan XL. I had taken this drug for urinary frequency and/or stress incontinence for appx 20 years. It was a wonderful result to an annoying problem. I was switched to a generic by my mail order pharmacy 6 months ago or so. I knew immediately things were significantly different. I may have been paying much less but I was only having 10% of the efficacy that I had been experiencing prior to the switch. The mail order pharmacy claims that they have to have communication with the extent of my problem etc. from my physician to give me the brand name. I have given it more time to see if there would be an improvement on the generic but it hasn’t happened. I may as not take it at all. So disappointing. It impacts and complicates my life.
Then just recently my orthopedic physician wanted me to try diflucan for my knee arthritis. He gave me a prescription for 10 days to see if I tolerated it and if it helped. It was amazing the result I got with in 48 hours. So, I had the orthopedic office fax a prescription to the mail order pharmacy. I wish I hadn’t. I received a different generic and it is only 50 to 75% as effective.
Now what do I do? Toss the 90 day supply and get a new prescription and pay a higher co-pay. I don’t like to waste the meds, I don’t want to pay more if I don’t have to….. it just plain complicates things and I am starting to mistrust generics at all.
ML
I have been forced three times now from Welbutrin XL to a generic “equivalent”, and each time I have tried to switch, depression rears its ugly, gloomy head with increasing darkness almost daily. None of these things has happened with Wellbutrin XL.
Why is it that our bureaucrats are free to do this sort of thing without consequence? If they fail to respond to the public and are subsequently shown to have not seriously checked out complaints about discrepancies, they should be imprisoned for at least 5 years in a Federal prison. Otherwise these people will simply work the pharmaceutical “buddy system” and get cushy jobs and contracts after government “service”. We need accountability and we are simply not getting it.
In addition, generic drug makers and distributors should be forced to refund money spent on ineffective products that they had very good reason to know do not work as advertised to end users only, not to insurance companies or their contractors.
Generic Wellbutrin does not work, at least for me and for tens of thousands of others. The FDA is not receptive to consumer complaints, insisting that you do your own studies to prove them wrong before they will document complaints. This is not service to the public but service to an industry they supposedly regulate in the Public Interest and at taxpayer expense. Crooked, corrupt, and unresponsive. Those people should have their “professional” licenses revoked.
JMP
I have been taking generic Prozac for almost three years, the pills were half white and half green. At the first of the year my new insurance home pharmacy sent me another generic that was half white and half navy. I did not think much about it at the time. As the months went on I had heartburn and stomach problems. I thought it was from the sports drink I was drinking, had a similar problem before, so I stop drinking them, but still had the pain.
I thought to myself, could this be the new Prozac made by Northstar? Then a doctor told me it could be. I did a search and found other people had the same problem with Northstar. I call my in town pharmacy and asked if they had the green and white generic Prozac and they said yes. So after jumping through hoops with the insurance company I was able to get the other generic Prozac.
When I got the new generic I saw that is was white with light green strips, not the same manufacture. I decided to take it since I needed the medication. Two days after starting the generic Prozac made by Teva I started to break out in a rash. I stop the medication and did a search to see if I could find the half white, half green pills. I did find the manufacturer and in talking with them they told me they are no longer making the generic.
I call my doctor to let her know what was happening and we tried to get the Prozac brand. My insurance denied it and if I was to pay for it myself it would have been over $600.00 a month. The generic was not working that well in controlling my depression, so I thought it was not worth it.
Not sure if it was the generic Prozac that caused the rash or another medication I had started a week before (now stopped), but normally if I am allergic to something it only takes a day or two to show up. The rash was on over 90% of my body and itchy. I did see my PCP and I am better.
I wanted to leave a comment because I feel this generic problem is going to get worst for all of us with company’s possibly using cheaper inactive ingredients.
Another question I have is if starting a new medication and you have an allergic reaction, how are the doctor’s going to know if it is the medication or the inactive ingredients, they can’t. This could limit access to medications and of course cost us all more money.
I am contacting the FDA about this.
Nora H-M
I took the generic medication for toenail fungus but there was no improvement in the fungus. I wonder if anyone else has had this problem?
Mary S.
Last week I was prescribed Azithromycin for bronchitis. I “knew” I would feel much better the second day but DID NOT. Actually I felt worse and my temp. went up to 100 for a while, but I thought maybe my condition had not peaked at that time. I have used the Z-Pack [ The Wonder Antibiotic ] several times in the past with great results. This is my 4th. day on this medication that came from INDIA and now I am really worried.
I am not getting well as I should and think this is shameful of our drug companies in this country, what can we do about it?? I also wonder if this drug is doing me more harm than good. I was prescribed an ointment by my dermatologist after having pre-cancerous spots frozen off my face, that one came from Israel. Both of these this week !!!!! I am really disappointed and worried about our future in this country as far as drugs are concerned, for one thing.
TT
Oh thank GOD!!!! I thought I was going insane!! I have an appointment today to discuss all of the changes I’ve had since switching from Celexa to the generic Torrent version. I feel worse than I did 12 years ago when I started Celexa. It crept on in the last 3 weeks since refilling my prescription.And no one at the pharmacy told me they were switching manufacturers. It took me going in there last night, crying and panicking hysterically, to get to the bottom of this. I will pay any amount of money that I am able in order to feel good and healthy and like myself. I will never touch a generic celexa again.
Greg Pharmacy Student
MHB,
I have heard of problems with this before. It is unfortunate that you had problems with the generic of Depakote. Be reassured that this is not always a problem. To be most effective in stopping this kind of problem in the future be sure you report this problem to the FDA at https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/medwatch/medwatch-online.htm
Most would agree that not all generics are bad and likewise that not all brand names are good.
MHB
Neurological Drugs – Very important to take Brand
My daughter takes depakote for seizures. Her pharmacy filled it with the generic and she had a grand mal seizure within 48 hours. Blood tests showed the level of the drug assimilated in her blood stream from the generic (valproic acid) was low. Her neurologist/epileptologist at Johns Hopkins told us that with neurological drugs the consistency of the brand name is very important. He informs that there are several current papers on this issue.
We kept her on Depakote brand without problems, although the name drug was a higher co pay. Now she is on other insurance because of a job change but they will not fund the brand at all, only the generic. She is paying for it herself but it is very frustrating.
MC
I agree. The generic of Wellbutrin doesn’t work for me either. I never know which manufacturer Walgreens is going to use..( I am sure which ever is making it most profitable for them ) and some work better than others and some not at all.
I pay an exorbitant amount of money for insurance and I can’t even get the meds my doctor prescribes.
SBS
I was forced to go onto generic Valtrex when the company we own moved to NY from PA. Our insurance plan (Aetna) told me I’d have to pay $325 per month for brand Valtrex or go to generic. I not only gained a horrible amount of weight, I had weird mood swings and depression. Plus the actual dose did not work so I had to “up” the dosage with terrible results.
I asked the pharmacist where it was made and was told India. The pharmacist then retorted “everything is made in India”. So I’m assuming this is a corporate decision but it is horrific. Recently the BBC reported that a heart medication manufactured in INDIA killed quite a number of people in a Pakisitani hospital–This happened to a 3rd world country 2 weeks ago. What is happening?
People’s Pharmacy response: Some generic drugs made in India adhere to good quality standards; some do not. It is extremely difficult for consumers or even health care providers to be able to distinguish them.
EG
Thanks Greg. I appreciate your input. Unfortunately, I’m thinking Nucynta is more of a standard opiate drug. I’ve never been able to tolerate regular narcotics on any kind of regular basis–they cause intense itching and other side effects that I’ve never had with the Ultram which, fortunately, seems to be just different enough to give me relief without the terrible side effects.
Greg Pharmacy Student
EG,
As an alternative to brand name Ultram, maybe your doctor would be willing to prescribe Nucynta, which is very similar to Ultram, but a schedule 2 medication (requiring a new prescription with each fill).
EG
I hope your suggestions help poor L.H. Unfortunately, pain patients tend to be treated like dirt. If you say you need more pills or a new prescription, the automatic assumption is that you’re an addict. Even if his current doctor believes him/her, it will go in that person’s medical record like a black mark of suspicion.
This posting is very timely for me. I took Ultram for quite a while, then was switched to a generic (can’t remember which) when it went off patent. My pain increased on the new pills, but the worst part was they made me feel sick as well. I have multiple food allergies and celiac disease, so who knows what was in them that caused the problem. As soon as I switched back to Ultram, I was fine, and have been since. I’ve been paying a much higher co-pay, but it was worth it.
I just found out that, as of this month, my co-pay has gone up from $75 to over $1,000 for a 3-month refill. My doctor will appeal for me, but I’m really frightened. I have M.S. and regional chronic pain syndrome as well as other issues, and without the pain control, my life is unbearable. I’ve had serious problems with some other generics in the past as well, including allergic reactions so bad I’ve almost needed the E.R. (throat swelling, etc.). Every time they switch my pills on me, I feel like I’m playing Russian Roulette.
On a different topic, I recently had problems with the *name brand* potassium replacement, Klor-Con. I’d been using a generic and taking 2 10MeQ tablets per day. Then my pharmacy switched me to the Klor-Con version. The very next day I began having uncomfortable bouts of heart racing and weakness. My blood level showed that my potassium level had plunged–so much so that the hospital called right after my lab was drawn, to tell me to immediately double my dose.
Even with that, it took a long time to get the level up. I am now taking triple the dose I was taking on the generic. The pills themselves look the same, but dissolve differently. The Klor-Con usually dissolve completely in my mouth before I can swallow them. Now I’m worried that when I’m switched to another brand again, my potassium level will suddenly be too dangerously high. It’s insane.
Greg Pharmacy Student
L H,
Thank you for filing the complaint with the FDA, this is only way you can hope to make a meaningful change in the generic medications on the market.
I would contact the insurance to get an override for more medication. If need be, file a complaint with your insurance company if they are not helpful.
If you are still in pain and without medication your insurance should cover tramadol 50 mg or tramadol er 100mg, of course with a new prescription from your doctor.
Best of luck,
Greg
L H
I have been on tramadol er 200 for many years. I have been on a generic from PAR for quite a while and was fine, however Walgreens is now using a new generic recently FDA approved. Manufacturer is Lupin out of India. I took my first dose of this generic on 1/3 and within 5 hours knew something was seriously wrong. It is like a sugar pill and does not have any effect at all. Over the 24 hour period I noticed nothing. Just severe pain.
I filed a complaint with the FDA, with Walgreens and am suffering. My insurance won’t cover another refill and I can’t get a refill with the other generic for another month. I am in excruciating pain and this is not right.
There is no way that this the same as the brand or the generic by PAR Pharmaceuticals. I believe the Lupin brand was just approved in 11-11. I trusted generics, but not anymore. There should be more control over pain medication generics. They even look like plastic. Scary.
Kevin
My God, yes, I also began the same symptoms when my Metoprolol refill came back a different looking pill. Sure is…and I have the “booming bass drum” heartbeats, along with annoying PVCs (a consequence of pericarditis in October and not staying on colchicine long enough after being released; MDs fault). I will have my Metoprolol Rx changed to another maker or brand or non-generic or whatever.
Janine
I had taken Zoloft for anxiety for three years, and it basically changed my life around. Since we are experiencing difficult finances (like so many others), I decided to switch to the generic to save money. BIG MISTAKE. Within 3 weeks I began feeling anxious and irritable, just like I had before being on the Zoloft.
To the pharmacy student who insists generics work the same, and that negative thinking (the mind) can make you think a medication won’t work (which perhaps may be true for some people), I believe you are misguided. It was NOT even a thought in my mind that the generic wouldn’t work. It wasn’t until my therapist suggested that I try a different antidepressant entirely that I put 2 and 2 together and thought.. “hmmm Zoloft has worked so well before, and I have been on this different one for about a month and a half and now feel lousy… let me just try going back on the brand Zoloft before we start all over with a new drug.” Within about two weeks on the brand ZOLOFT I was no longer anxious and feeling great and like myself again. Perhaps I am sensitive to the fillers- who knows. All I know is that the generic does not work for me.
Believe me, I would MUCH RATHER be able to use the generic and pay the generic price, but it does NOT work for me. $110 a month for one drug is very hard on the pocket book. However I have learned that my sanity is not something I am willing to put a price on :)
My heart goes out to all of you who have experienced the same thing!
Lynn M
I have been on Catapres patches for several years to help control high blood pressure. My insurance company switched me to generic Clonidine patches, manufactured by the AVENA company, without my knowledge or consent. Within 36 hours of switching to the generic my blood pressure was out of control-over 200/100.
After a week I looked at the patch when I was changing to the next one and wondered if that was the problem. I got my doctor to switch back to the name brand and within 24 hours my blood pressure was back to normal. I still have problems with the insurance company (Medco) sending me the generics but I will never take that particular drug as a generic again.
sheila
I am having trouble with metoprolol (generic) also. My blood pressure has shot up and it was fine before when I was on a different drug. I have been on Metoprolol for about 2 weeks now… can’t sleep well, I am aware of every beat and my heart feels as if it is pounding hard.
pharmintern
After reading all these posts with people interchanging names of the drug and getting things wrong, I couldn’t help but take the time to write this, Bupropion hcl is the generic form of wellbutrin budoprion or however the first posts I saw spelled it is not the generic name of the drug, it is bupropion hcl, and it is definitely not a different drug, because it isn’t a drug at all, just a misspelling regular release, sr, and xr are all different forms, so there are possibilities of getting a generic from a different lab when you switch types sr is sustained and is twice a day(reg release is three I believe) xr is extended and is once a day.
I read a few studies and found that although one generic (TEVA LABS) released a much higher dose of the drug than did wellbutrin xr in the first two hours, it was still the active ingredient. Some might be sensitive to the different fillers, but the last main point I want to make is that, the mind is a powerful thing, if anyone were to read all these posts about how the generic didn’t work at all and switched to the generic I would guarantee they wouldn’t think it would work, Just think how you get out of bed each day going through life and thinking it’s crappy, or taking everything in stride and making the best out of it. Anyone could put themself in a depressing mood whether they had a bad day or a good day depending on how they went about it, and especially if they didn’t think their medication was working. -Pharmacy Student
chill
I agree with you. This is a national disgrace, why cannot we make generic drugs here that are tested and safe??
RM
This is the second time I have went through sleepless nights with Generic Ambien. Zolpidem NOR is what I have now and it’s like taking nothing. The last bottle I had from Wal-Mart worked. They claim it is the same mfg that nothing has changed but the affects sure have. I went through a time about 6 months ago after they switched me to generic of not sleeping then discovered many other people were having the same problems. Actually my first bottle from Wal-Mart worked fine but then I changed to a more convenient pharmacy with a different MFG and it sucked! Had my doctor change script back to Wal-Mart and that has worked fine until this bottle but they swear nothing has changed. Something has.
It’s the same thing I went through before. This is my 3rd night awake all night. Sucks! I am assuming that NOR is the MFG. Anyone else have this problem? Real ambien was awesome, no insomnia or worrying cause it just made me go to sleep. Now I am up at 3 a.m. stressing cause I need to be fully functional by 6 a.m. to work tomorrow and I will be going on little sleep 3 days in a row. This inconsistency needs to stop. Feell like it depends on the batch and where that batch came from. This has to be stopped! This is not good on anyone’s health that has to do what I am doing right now. NOT sleeping which is where I need to be.
Anna
The Corepharma/Ranbaxy manufactured Adderall is completely ineffective. I have been prescribed adderall for the past three years and most of the time I get generic. This month when I picked up my prescription from the pharmacy, I noticed the pills looked different than usual. After doing some research, I discovered Ranbaxy is the manufacturer of them (which I’ve never tried before). I didn’t think anything of it until I started taking the pills. I have been depressed, I can’t sleep, and I can’t focus or concentrate in school. I did some research online to see if this was all in my head, but I’ve found numerous upon numerous people claiming it doesn’t work for them either. Don’t ever get Corepharma/Ranbaxy manufactured adderall!
LB
I have had cervical dystonia and a very painful type non stop since 1996. BUT, after finding out what it was… and under an excellent Dr. at Ohio State Medical was put first on clonazepam and then, finally, Neurontin. Botox injections into the neck and back muscles just didn’t quite get rid of all of the symptoms causing the pain and cramping.
Since no medical ins. (my ex divorced me off of the medical he had just as I was getting sick!) I paid a fortune for the gabapentin (neurontin) and a good bit for the clonazepam. Got every clue I could to find Canadian generics, etc. and never had a problem until the last two rounds of GENERIC CLONAZEPAM. (Neurontin by Teva at Costco is great so far over a period of years).
The generic clonazepam came from Wal Mart… I didn’t know they were switching around brands, and I just kept having such weird symptoms, and pains, that I would wake up screaming from what little I was sleeping (night terrors)… Hallucinations of all sorts, and symptoms I don’t want to even write. It had not dawned on me what was wrong… nothing I thought of was adding up. Not the flu, not food poisoning, and it went on and on for weeks.
THEN I woke up one morning and the right side of my upper body … esp. neck, back and arm had the muscles so knotted up it hurt too bad to scream. It hit me finally that years before I’d forgotten two doses of my medications, and woke up almost that bad. Then I knew.
So… now that back on TEVA generic, was immediately better. But still not right somehow! It’s taken over a week with me doing all I can to work the soreness from my muscles. I will have to pay full price for the non-generic next time. But, pray that the still quite expensive Neurontin never fails in generic. If so, I will have to apply to get it free from the company. I’ve spent at least $32,000 out of pocket on that stuff alone over the years!
Oh, I have reported both of the generic co’s I know were faulty (MYLAN and IPL) to the FDA. Let’s see if the do anything!
Moral of story: ALWAYS CHECK YOUR MEDICATION…AND NOTICE FOR SIDE EFFECTS OR ~~AS WITH ME~~ I WITHDREW AND THEN HAD THE PROGRESSED AFFECTS OF CERVICAL DYSTONIA.
p.s. In the middle of all this, I lost my father suddenly. I was too sick
to fly the thousand miles and attend his military funeral.
MS
I actually have a gripe about TEVA generic focalin and not the usual gripe about Teva. Teva 10 mg dexmethylphenidate tabs are my favorite ADHD medication, brand focalin and focalin XR made me anxious and the generic Ritalin is a different brand every month. But the Teva generic is on manufacturer back order every 3 months.
Sgitts
It is because all our generic drugs are coming from India, China, Pakistan among other countries! Our drug companies have made drugs made in the united states too expensive so we have to rely on these countries. Something is not right!!!
T
Oh my gosh, I thought it was just me. My insurance company just did the same thing & I noticed the past few days I’m very emotional – like I’m not on any medication – tonight I am on here looking for information & came across this site. I just do not understand how we cannot get medication that works because of insurance. It’s very aggravating. Good luck to all.
JOE W.
Has anyone had adverse effects of generic Plavix from India?
Fred
Same as others. I have been taking Zoloft for many years. I was doing well. Until I changed jobs and I am forced to buy Generic. Last two weeks I have started with brand Mylan. Although my Dr. doubled my dosage, I am going downhill fast.
Mike
Doctor prescribed me the generic form of losartan hct for high blood pressure. I took it for 4 months, no problems. The fifth month, the pharmacy switched manufacturers on me. My blood pressure skyrocketed (but I didn’t realize how bad or why for about 15 days, which is when I correlated the change in manufacturers and my high bp). I went back to the pharmacy and told them.
I convinced them to sell me 7 non-generic tablets to try. Took one, bam! BP dropped 25 points systolic. What the hell? I still have some of the non-functional tablets; they’re by a very well known company. Anybody want to test them for quality?
Randall W.
I have been taking 10 mg 3 x a day Methilyn non-extended release now for a few months. I’ve been experiencing really bad sinus trouble like runny nose and having to get up from my desk and blow my nose constantly I’m just wondering if it could be the medicine. I also take 600 mg lithium carbonate 2 times a day.
Marvin
Where is the page where you solicit comments about how well the generic drug worked for people? I smell big-pharma behind this campaign. In whose interest is it that the public continue to pay for the more expensive drugs? Hmmm, I wonder.
PEOPLE’S PHARMACY RESPONSE: GENERIC DRUGS ARE SUPPOSED TO WORK FOR PEOPLE, BUT WE ARE ALWAYS PLEASED TO HEAR FROM PEOPLE WHO FIND THEY DO EXACTLY THAT. NO BIG PHARMA HERE.
slg
Ok found this site by accident. I have been taking the generic version of Imitrex for migraines for years. They other day I received my renewed prescription from our insurance pharmacy (thru BP). The package looked different and the pills look really different, but didn’t give it much thought. Had a migraine last week so took one of the pills at bedtime.
The next day I suffered hallucinations (or better described as out of body feeling) for the whole next day and part of the following day. Went back and looked at the package and found the manufacturers name on the package so got on line and looked it up. These pills are manufactured in India! Called our insurance pharmacy and they told me that they had changed companies because of cost and availability.
They gave me the number of “Dr. Reddy’s” and was told yes, that all their drugs are made in India. I have only experienced this one other time and that was with Ambiem, and my doctor told me that yes hallucinations was one of the side effects of ambiem, so never took that again. Now I am thinking that the Ambiem was probably also made in India. Something needs to be done! We need to get this stopped! I for one will never take another pill that came from India, even if I have to pay the higher cost for made in the USA. Check out your drugs people and where they are made!
Deb
Metoprolol XL generics do not work. I had been getting the PAR generic before the RECALL of generic metoprolol and was happy I didn’t have to worry about it anymore when they were recalled. Recently I noticed irregular heartbeats again like before and started to worry. My metoprolol looks the same…HUMMM it is NOT the same! WOCKHARDT generic!!! I look online and sure enough other people are having the same problems. It does not work.
I just called my pharmacy and they agreed to order the certified generic PAR. Hopefully I can get that by Monday. If I don’t die before then. I have a grandchild to raise and don’t want the drug to kill me!
BF
My daughter was prescribed Augmentin for ear infections. At the time only name brand was available. She had no side effects and the infection cleared up quickly. Later she received generic Amox/Clavuante made by Ranbaxy in India, she suffered terrible diarrhea and vomiting. I took the medicine back to the pharmacy and they told me it was just a reaction to the type of drug. I demanded name brand – paid the stiff price $300.00 – but my daughter had no more side effects. I notified my doctor and he told me that many people are now being designated penicillin allergic when really it is just a bad reaction to the generic fillers from unregulated manufacturers.
Jay D
I was recently switched from one generic brand of Zoloft (Amber) to another (Lupin). I didn’t even notice they were different at first. But the first night I woke with a headache which has continued for five days now. By the second day I was dizzy and very agitated and angry. This was when I looked at the bottles and noticed they were different.
I called the pharmacy and they said they had to switch brands, that the active ingredient was the same, but acknowledged that they had heard this before. My doc says I may be reacting to an inactive ingredient, but I don’t think so. The feeling is exactly like when you’ve never been on an anti-depressant before and you start one at too high a dose (as I recall). My doc is going to write one for regular Zoloft, but I’m pretty sure the insurance co is going to fight that.
KC
I had a problem with citalopram and the generic medications not working. The generic citralopram is totally different to the brand. The brand works well. The generic tablets make me ill, but since I can no longer get the brand, I’m having to move to a different medication. I’m not in the US, but came across this site which has been quite interesting to see other problems people have had with generics too.
I reported it to the doctor and she said she has heard of generic medications not working as well as brand medications. This must be a problem all over. I wonder why this hasn’t been investigated if so many people have had problems?
Tracey L.
A year ago I was prescribed Ambien for 2 weeks for my sleep disorder and to get my sleep patterns back to normal and it worked successfully. After a year once again I encountered sleep problems and was prescribed Ambien (zolpidem) for sleep disorder. So I went to my local CVS pharmacy and they filled my prescription with a generic brand by Torrent pharmaceuticals (zolpidem); Unfortunately, it did not work at all for me it kept me up all night.
The second night I took it and it still kept me up. I had no rest for 2 days and had to work and was exhausted. I took the generic ambien back to CVS and they told me that it was strange because a lot of people have been complaining about the same problem with the generic version by torrent. They then gave me another generic Ambien by Teva and it did the same thing. I returned it and the CVS pharmacy acted as if I were crazy and said that my body had gotten immune to the medicine and refused to exchange it again with another generic co.
So I requested my prescription back and went to Rite-Aid and explained my situation and they were very knowledgeable of what some generic drug problems that people have encountered and filled my prescription with Roxane (zolpidem), It worked well for me. Through this experience, it made me decide to post this message and see if there are ways that I can report this. Please help me to seek such organizations to report these medicines so that other people will not be harmed. Thank you.
JB
I have been using Femhrt 1/5 for hot flashes and depression caused by menopause. All of a sudden I was very depressed and had about 4 hot flashes a day. I finally correlated it to the switch my insurance made from Femhrt to Jinteli, a generic, same dose. I called my doc to change the prescription to “do not substitute with generic” but my insurance company denied it (!). I have found that taking two of the Jinteli pills eliminates my symptoms. But some pharma is getting rich by substantially decreasing active ingredients. Isn’t the FDA monitoring this?
Alma
My problem I believe is with Prevacid which I take for acid reflux. Since I have been on the generic my acid reflux has been much worse. I am asking the pharmacist today to put me back on the actual “Prevacid”
I was wondering if anyone else has had this problem??
pietje
I again have problems with pills, this time diazepam from apotex, as others had too from what I read above. Same batch but different side effects. I called the doctor, pharmacy and a supervising (dutch fda like) agency about the pills they controlling.
It was a batch the controlling agency told me. I asked about the size of a batch. A pallet a truckload or storehouse, well they all said it’s the size of a pallet on a forklift. And every of this amount is being checked on quality. Only my family doctor is skeptical and I convinced the pharmacist that I am not lying. Whenever a toaster or coffeemaker explodes it’s front page news. But when it’s consuming medications it is deadly quiet on the news front. While faulty medicines cause people getting sick or worse, and his big scam is raising the costs of healthcare across the globe.
RG
I was taking generic enalapril with good results when suddenly the pills were different in color. I started seeing flashing zig-zag lights which I recognized as migraine phenomena that you would get from blood vessels constricting. I had my Dr. put the US manufacturer’s name on the prescription and had no side effects since. I have recently had other side effects from another generic and went to the pill identifier and discovered that my prescription provider again changed to a Chinese provider. I will have my doctor put US manufacturer’s names on all prescriptions in the future. There is something definitely wrong with Chinese generics.
Kelly
I had been taking Ambien CR for probably over a year before the generic came out. I would only take it 2-3 times a week to prevent building up a tolerance to the medication. When the generic became available, I opted to go with the generic because of the cost. It doesn’t work for me! I have laid awake for over 2 hrs without falling asleep. I also occasionally suffer from esophageal spasms brought on by stress, I had not had an episode from spasms in months and now am having them frequently.
These symptoms mimic similar symptoms of a heart attack in women… chest, neck, throat & jaw pain, followed by weakness, clammy feeling & nausea. The pain is only alleviated by nitro pills. After reading your post I suspect that the generic Ambien Cr may be the cause for the rise in frequency of the spasms. Does anyone know if there is a way to have the medication checked?
Barb
I no longer have insurance. The cheapest price you will find for bupropion XL is at RX Outreach. You can get three months of whatever strength the doctor writes for you for $65.00. Their customer service number is 1-800-769-3880 or you can pull them up online.
BF
I was relieved to see others having a problem with the generic form of Wellbutrin. I took the name brand for a long time and when it was switched to bupropion it was like it wasn’t working at all. I even questioned the fact that it was a counterfeit medicine. Where can something like that be tested to see if it is not a counterfeit?
Barbara
The problem I have had with generic drugs are the “inactive ingredients” that sometimes include lactose – to which I am intolerant. Physicians sometimes refuse to acknowledge the effects are sufficient to warrant a change to brand name medications.
For years it was sufficient for me to check the “inactive ingredients” on a renewal but even that was problematic recently – leaving me to try the new generic, determine it had lactose in it, and then go in circles between MD, nurse, pharmacy and insurance only to give-up and refuse to take the med. Very frustrating and time-consuming to track this to a good result.
Perhaps the “active” medication is chemically the same in both brand and generic, but the does the FDA oversee that each dose is encased in the same additives?
Ramona
Something like this happened to me after my insurance switched me to a generic form of Effexor XR 150. I didn’t know I was being switched until I arrived to pick up my medication from the pharmacy. At that time I wasn’t really concerned about the switch, instead I was happy because my co-pay went from $45 down to $5.
However, as the weeks on, I found that I was sleeping more and more, I was nauseous, dizzy and suffered from headaches. This went on for a couple of months before I began to wonder if the medication might have had anything to do with my symptoms, since I had experienced these symptoms previously when I had forgotten to take my meds for a day or two. When I researched this matter, I couldn’t believe how many had suffered from the change.
I dealt with this for 6 months due to financial reasons, and although I could “function”, it was not functioning in a productive way, as I had been prior to the change in meds. I have gone back on the Name brand Effexor XR 150 now, and I cannot believe that difference. My productivity is up to par again, and I feel normal. Although I am now paying $120 on top of using the co-pay commitment card, due to “ancillary fees”. I guess the generic is pretty much free now according to my Insurance since the difference is about the same cost as the drug itself.
But I am willing to pay whatever I have to in order to feel normal again. It is very frustrating that these things are not often made public, nor considered a priority.
jrparker
I have been using lisinopril 40 mg for the last 8 years . Blood pressure has been consistent at around 130/75 and never over 140/, but ever since my pharmacy changed over to another generic equivalent (watson 409) two months ago my blood pressure has been reading consistently high. My blood pressure reached 165/99 today. I also started and exercise program 8 months ago and have lost over 50 pounds of fat in the process.
The last time I initiated an exercise and diet program I was forced to cut my dosage of lisinopril in half within just a few months, which is why I believe there are slight differences in chemical makeup for the same generic med being offered by different companies using their own brand name.
fj
I had this experience last night….. had been on Sandoz amitriptyline…. pharmacy switched to qualitex (something like that… gave it to pharmacy to throw away)….. got really nauseous…. felt like mild food poisoning.
BF
Because I had digestive problems in the past (yrs) with Welbutrin XL I did a little experiment.
Within a 3 month period – currently
To establish a base line – started one month of brand Name Wellbutrin SR – no problems.
Switched to Mylan (Mfr) generic Buproprion SR same dosage for one month – no problems
Due to RX plan switched pharmacies – One month Eon (Mfr) generic Buproprion SR same dosage – PROBLEM – it’s like I stopped taking them.
Doctors do not acknowledge generic differences. Now I need to find another Dr. OR pay more. Oh boy.
S Fine
I have been taking the generic version of levitian for seizures or keppra as it’s more known and I was taking for the last 2 yrs. I was taking keppra made by the leva company and didn’t have any trouble it did what it was suppose to but I just got a new insurance and there making me take the same stuff but made by lupin and I’m telling you its only been 2 weeks and after 24 hrs I noticed there version of the generic drug does not work at all.
It’s totally different since for 2 weeks with this lupin version I’m constantly either staying up 2 days or getting just 2hrs a night. Now prior while on the teva version I got 4hrs a night that I tolerate but this lupin for me does not work. Let not only that but since then I’m constantly feeling like I’m going to have a seizure or better yet I know I’ve been having I just hide from people when I do. The lupin version is Horrible.
Greg Pharmacy Student
Some generics are made by the same company that makes the brand. Greenstone generics, like Zoloft are the same as the Pfizer name brand. The name brand company cuts it’s loses by competing with the other generic companies.
Cambosmom
Well I am now experiencing my second round with the generic version of ZOLOFT. I have been successfully taking Zoloft for many years. About 4 years ago I was given the generic version as it became available. I started having issues such as crying, irritability, bad thoughts etc. I couldn’t figure out what was going on. Talking things over with a friend we realized it may be the generic Zoloft.
I went back to the doctor and she changed me to the name brand and things have been fine until now. The last time my mail order pharmacy filled me prescription they sent generic. I thought well it’s been 4 years since last time I tried it maybe things will be okay this time. Not a chance, but at least I was able to realize what was happening sooner. Today my doctor prescribed the name brand and after waiting at the pharmacy for 30 minutes the clerk told me “we don’t have any Zoloft, it’s the name brand you know?” Hello!!!! That’s what I need. I’m trying to get through till tomorrow when they say they will have it. Grrrrrrrrr
Becky
My first experience with online Rx from India has been with XanaFlex. I have chronic neck/shoulder pain from a previous accident. The orthopedist recommends neurosurgery but I am one of many uninsured in the US. Just to see if it was available I checked online and sure enough, the muscle relaxer was available at a “reasonable” price.
After weeks I finally received my registered mail shipment. All I can say is” This drug has no identifying marks, is blister packaged and has nothing enclosed to say what it is. After another week and another sleepless night in pain I decided to take 1/2 of a 10mg tablet. NOTHING except a dry throat.
I don’t know what I received but I’m chalking it up to an expensive mistake on my part. Not to mention feeling really stupid for believing this was an alternative, I’m really afraid to take the tablets and am out $100.00.
Buyers BEWARE.
Mrethiopian
As I’m reading all the comments I notice an abundance of negative comments about Wellbutrin 300XL a drug I’m also on. What I don’t see in most if not all of the comments is what type generic, who manufactured the pill in question without this information I’m left with the same questions as I had prior to coming to this web site, if we all documented the drugs in question we would have a better chance of the FDA being on the side of the consumer and not the pharmaceutical corporations, we all know the the FDA is is another corrupt government entity that is in business to protect the pharmaceutical co and NOT us the people that its suppose to be protecting.
We need to look no further then to the generic Wellbutrin we all have issues with, the FDA looked into this issue in 2007, looking at a single generic and basically stated that it was the users symptoms getting worse and not the fault of the generic drug. The testing that was done for Wellbutrin generic as a farce, how can all of thees people have the same issue with the generic? Why did the FDA only test a singe manufacturer when the problem could be with another manufacturer of the supposed bioequivalent drug?
Generic Wellbutrin 300XL
MFG:Sandoz
Nick C.
I am a senior citizen. I take as many as eight different pills a day. I get very confused when my supplier changes from one generic drug to another. This type of action should be outlawed. My son usually lays out the pills for a week. There are times he is not available. Now what?
Peggy
I had to live in a constant nightmare for almost 2 months after being changed to the generic equivalent of Effexor XR 150mg. I became depressed, emotional, suicidal, and also had many physical effects such as headaches, night sweats, hot flashes, and skin problems. I would cry at the drop of a hat, and had trouble motivating myself to do anything.
I just wanted to sit and cry all the time but when people asked me what was wrong I didn’t really know. I would respond by saying “something bad is going to happen.” My husband finally insisted I had to go to the doctor but by then I had started researching the generic Effexor XR and found that lots of other people were having the same problems as I was.
I read that even though the medication itself came off patent, the delivery system did not. Thus, the generic may not have been releasing smoothly into my system over the course of 24 hours. I took this information to my doctor visit and he immediately put me back on the REAL Effexor XR and noted on the prescription that it was medically necessary. After only 3 days of taking the correct medicine, I was almost back to normal. I have to now pay $65 per month to get my medicine that used to cost me $20 but I am willing to do that in order to remain healthy and sane. I hope this information can help someone else having similar problems.
CH
I had recently had surgery and picked up a prescription of hydrocodone 7.5ml/APAP 500 ml in liquid form before the surgery at a Walgreens in Bloomfield, CT. This medicine did what it was supposed to do in relieving my pain after the surgery. I ran out of the liquid and two days later had it refilled at a Walgreens on Silver Lane in East Hartford. To my astonishment, this liquid did NOTHING.
I took it the next day (today) and it did NOTHING again. I wonder what I’m actually drinking. I’m just going to throw it out.
KT
I have had trouble with generic welbutrin ER and and until the insurance co tripled the mail order co-pay I had Dr. prescribe “No Generic”. It did little to nothing to help my depression and anxiety. A recent generic was sent by my pharmacy is currently doing a great job. The MFG is Actavis. The pills look the same only slightly thicker and the seem to be delivering the medication in a much better dose.
je
I think we need to stand together against insurance companies that force us to take ineffective generics or make us pay the enormous cost of the brand drug.
EG
Greg, thanks for replying to my comments about the migraine medications, and clarifying what you meant. It’s heartening to me that there are pharmacists who are taking this issue seriously. I too hope that JMc can find an alternate brand that will work. Ironically, I just received a notification from my insurance company that they are ending my coverage for the nasal Zomig, and that my doctor and I will now have to jump through hoops to try to have it reinstated.
Greg Pharmacy Student
EG,
Sorry for being patronizing. It was clear the only reason the brand offered several days of relief was because it actually worked. I hope brands like Zomig, Replax, Amerge, Maxalt, Frova, or Axert work for JMc. Other forms that you mentioned like nasal and injection have been helpful for others, when generics tablets didn’t cut it.
I’ve also found that preventative meds can sometimes be used at lower doses than usually prescribed.
Hopefully someone can use our information to solve our generic problems.
EG
Greg Pharmacy Student, I’m not sure you carefully read JMc’s original post. I know you meant well, but it seems you don’t suffer from migraines yourself. I do. JMc never said that the Imitrex or its substitute was being taken as a preventive. She is using it to treat a headache as it happens, just as you say. The problem is the generic isn’t stopping them when they happen, not nearly as well as branded Imitrex.
As for my own situation, I get 6 or more migraines a month, and use nasal Zomig, which works well for me (and considering the significant problems I’ve had with the majority of my generic medications, I dread the day that goes off patent as well!). I used to be on “medications to prevent migraine,” but it was a misery I wouldn’t want to repeat. They did nothing to lower the number of headaches–in fact, I wouldn’t doubt I had more–but was drugged into a fog and had miserable side effects.
Treating the migraines as they happen with Zomig has been my best option by far. Preventive medications don’t work for everyone, sorry to say. I’m also on a restricted diet; however, my biggest triggers are weather and hormonal changes (including, ironically, having been on a generic estrogen made by Barr that made my levels fluctuate erratically–things have improved greatly since I switched brands). But, generally, there’s little one can do to control such factors.
As I say, I know you mean well, but this sort of advice comes across as being from someone with little personal or real world experience of what they’re talking about, and is a bit frustrating for those of us who actually have the problem and live day to day managing it. I’m sure if JMc has chronic migraines as bad as that, other options have been tried as well.
Greg Pharmacy Student
JMc,
I won’t dispute your problem with generic Imitrex, but clarify and hopefully offer other solutions. Imitrex never has been shown to prevent migraines, it stops them when you get them.
At 6 migraines per month most doctors, will start to look for medications to prevent migraine. You might consider this.
Although not always easy, many migraines can be prevented, by avoiding triggers. I knew a patient that never takes any migraine medication after changing his diet. Consider looking in the People’s Pharmacy guide to migraines
DKrampPharmDStudent
My brother commented as well (GregPharmDStudent). It is surprising when these differences arise–they are unexpected; however, their is not a huge onus of proof that generic companies have, to prove that the medication will behave identically.
What I have found annoying at time is that a generic will at times be 100% identical to the brand–same markings on the pill, same bottle (except the “manufacturer”). This was the case with generic Protonix I found. The generic manufacturer had contracted with the brand to have the exact same product. If for instance they would be spilled together they would be visually and chemically identical down to the yellow #4 and gloss coating.
Cindy S states she got some generic Protonix that was quite different. I do not disagree–various generic manufacturers are likely to have different binders and perhaps completely different ways of synthesizing the active compound.
Mary Ann
Ambien 5 experience:
30 minutes until 8 solid hours of restful sleep :-)
Zolpidem 10 experience:
Teva manufacturer — absolutely no benefit, some aggravation :-(
Northstar manufacturer — 60 to 90 minutes until 4 hours of restful sleep, can usually fall back to sleep for a couple more hours.
WalMart’s equate Nighttime sleep aid — 120 minutes until 6 hours of sleep and some grogginess when I get up. (diphenhydramine HCI 50mg)
MS
I took YAZ birth control for 4 years with no issues and was very happy with it. I had maintained a steady weight of 160-165 lbs during the entire time I was on YAZ. In July 2010, my insurance company required I switch to the generic form, Gianvi. I was happy to have a $4 co-pay. Over the next several months I began having regular migraines, gaining weight- (20 pounds!) and began suffering from severe depression. I also began experiencing hot flashes, night sweats, severe insomnia and irregular bleeding.
My doctor and I thought I was going into peri-menopause, however blood tests indicated this was not the case. I had to begin an anti-depressant in an effort to bring my depression symptoms under control. I only NOW have made the connection that this all started when I switched to the generic birth control. When I did some searching online, I found MANY people with similar complaints. I will be switching back, even though it means paying more.
TT
Ditto, ditto, ditto re: brand Wellbutrin XL vs generic. The generic (Teva) did not work for me, and in fact makes things even worse. I have tried generic three times over the years because of the cost of brand Wellbutrin, with the same miserable result each time… I crash HARD, depression returns, listless, scattered, antisocial, not quite suicidal but overcome with self-loathing, want to go hide in a corner. It is a complete 180 from my sunny, focused, energetic self on Wellbutrin. It’s a travesty that so many are being forced to accept substandard drug that doesn’t work as an “equivalent substitute.”
Greg Pharmacy Student
S.R., thank you for making me aware of these issues. I am much more sensitive to this now. All this could change though: generics are a new idea and did not exist 30 years ago. Don’t forget the pharmacy does not demand generic medications, this is usually the insurance company. The same insurance company that you pick and is accountable to you.
JMc
Please, please, Peoples’ Pharmacy, help us do something about the generic Imitrex (sumatriptan). It is NOT as effective as the name brand medication. The name brand medication got rid of my migraines in about 45 minutes or so. The generic seems to suppress them a little…. but then they come back. I take a name brand dose, and I am free of migraines for several days afterward.
With the generic, they fade, and then I wake up with it again the next morning. The doctor says, “just take two tablets!” I can’t- my insurance company only allows 9 tabs per month, and I usually get around 6 migraines a month…. so you see I would run out before the end of the month. The insurance co will not pay for name brand imitrex since a generic is made. My pharmacist told me that I was NOT the first person to say that the generic formulation of sumatriptan is inferior.
Peoples’ Pharmacy, do you report this information to the FDA, or do I need to? If I need to, can you provide the contact info? Thank you!
PEOPLE’S PHARMACY RESPONSE: PLEASE REPORT IT HERE:
https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/medwatch/medwatch-online.htm
Cindy S
Generic GERD drugs don’t work like name brand. I was prescribed Protonix and was given Pantoprazole. Absolutely didn’t work, my heartburn was so bad in one day, I actually doubted that I took a pill and took a second one! Within 2 weeks, I was gagging and vomiting. Got the insurance company to approve Protonix, and after a couple of weeks, I was better. My husband cannot take omeprazole, but must have Prilosec. My co-worker cannot take generic Nexium but must have name brand Nexium! A pharmacist told me that difference is in the binding agents and how the meds break down in your body. Don’t know if that is true or not.
RW
Was taking Benicar for +/- 18 months for blood pressure. Was down around 124/86. best in several years. New insurance company says go generic. Switched to Losartan w/ MD’s ok. Bp shot up to 168/100+/-. Felt bad, woozy etc. Saw MD, went back to Benicar, BPs back to 120s/80s. Generics are not always direct copies. I had enough chemistry in college to be able to read the formulas and know they may be similar, but NOT EXACT copies!
LL
I have taken Lamictal for several years, along with other anti-depressants and the combination had stabilized my long-term clinical depression. When the Lamictal was changed to Lamotrigine, I began having problems again. After several months, my psychiatrist suspected that was the problem and gave me samples of Lamicatal – which cleared up the depressive episode. My doctor appealed to my insurance company, I am now back again on Lamictal and doing well. Thanks for this opportunity to report this.
krulan
My son had brain surgery at age 30 for hydrocephalus. After surgery, he was prescribed Topamax for his headaches. That worked fine for him for about 8 years until a generic formula was released. The generic formula did not help ease his pain at all. The FDA, the manufacturer of Topamax and the manufacturer of the generic ALL stated that the generic formulation available was for seizures, NOT headaches!
Despite this and the fact that his neurosurgeon requested he be on Topamax and not the generic, the insurance company refuses to pay for the brand name. They did finally relent and say that he could use the brand name … they just wouldn’t pay for it!!! WHO PUT THE INSURANCE COMPANIES IN CHARGE OF OUR HEALTH CARE?????
kt
I have taken Estrace for a number of years after my hysterectomy in a small dose partly to help ward off osteoporosis which runs in my family as well as hot flashes. I switched to a generic once and after a few months was shedding hair, having hot flashes, etc. Checked with my Dr. and he said that forget the generic and stay with Estrace.
I have no problems now and of course have to pay for it out of pocket as the drug companies do not cover a brand name hormone. With the generic I might as well have been taking nothing. Another Dr. suggested that all hormones should be taken by brand name, not generic, but think that varies among doctors.
PS
I was on Wellbutrin also and was switched to a generic by the insurance company without my knowledge. I could not understand why I was getting so depressed. I went to the Dr and after discussion she put me back on the the brand name and within 24 hours I was back to my normal self again. It was very frightening. I have to pay full price and I don’t know how long I can continue that. I am shocked at how many people are having the same experience!
jan
Hi Jen,
I have just been prescribed klonopin, and my insurance covers the generic at a very low cost. The brand is 10 x the cost of the generic!
I recently read your post (even though it is from a few years ago). Just wondering how things wound up with your situation. I am not feeling the full effects from the generic klonopin. The brand I received from CVS is made by Teva.
I would appreciate any updates.
Janis R.
jh
I used to take Ambien cr for sleeping and had no side effects. About a year ago, my insurance company requested doctor extra approval and my doctor switched me to estazolam, which was also fine. Recently, my doctor switched me back to ambien. I got the generic zolpidem er. It clearly makes me sick, headache and vomiting.
Marjo
This isn’t a prescription drug, it’s about Tylenol PM, but the difference between generic and brand was incredibly different.
Last year, there was a problem with Tylenol products and they disappeared from the shelves. I have some trouble sleeping sometimes, and buy the Tylenol PM Rapid Release pills. Before they created the rapid release, I would buy either their brand or the generics, but I would always make sure to buy the blue and white round variety, as the pale blue, elongated ones never seemed to work.
But back to the Rapid Release style. When the Tylenols disappeared, I found another generic brand of Rapid Release, which did not work AT ALL. They are made in India. They look like capsules, but they’re just coated pills, one end red, one end blue, with a small white band in the center. I thought it was just me, but I took them time and time again, and nothing happened. I didn’t get sleepy, didn’t get that dryness they sometimes cause. Finally the name-brand Tylenol PM came back, and they worked perfectly.
I’m a bit all over the place in this, but to sum up:
– Stay away from the pale blue elongated regular release generics (no coating); they work, but not great.
– Round blue and white generics work fine (coated, dark blue on front, white on back)
– The Tylenol PM branded products, regardless of shape or size, have worked well for me.
KN
I have the same problem with the “purple” generic Ambiens. I may as well not even take them. Obviously there’s a problem in the manufacturing / quality control.
rapg
I had been taking Ambien CR 12.5 for the last few yrs. Had no problems. With the last prescription to Express Scripts, they filled it with generic. They want my Dr. to give them a call for pre-approval to see if they can now fill it since they have gone to using medicare part D for some medications. The results of generic Ambien Cr is as follows.
ZOLPIDEM TARTRATE ER
I took first dose on Jan. 13, 2011 approx. 11:00 pm
Within a few hours, was getting heartburn and stomach cramping.
Approx. 6:45 am the heartburn was so bad that it felt like acid had been poured down my throat.
Then I started vomiting. I vomited several times within a few minutes. Then the diarrhea started. I was so bloated in my body that it made my insides sore to move, I spent 2 ½ days in bed. I also developed a metallic taste in my mouth.
I took this med, from Jan 13 through Jan 19 (7 doses). All of this time, I was bloated, cramping, diarrhea, nauseated and with a metallic taste.
On Jan 20, I started looking on different medical web sites for side effects of this medicine. These are some of the side effects. On Jan 20, I did not take the medicine, and within 24 hours there were and 180 degree turn around, have not taken any of it since then.
This medicine is very dangerous to take.
WV
Originally prescribed Zoloft ten years ago, for cost reasons I started getting the generic Sertraline from Canada. After the generic became available not long ago in the US I switched to a local pharmacy (RiteAid). At 100mg/day it has been very effective in treating my depression/anxiety/panic, though an occasional “breakthrough” episode of anxiety or panic attack might need a small dose Alprazolam.
I recently got my Rx refilled and after just a week I began feeling “not right” with some old familiar symptoms returning, ones I would experience if I went off my medication (nervousness/anxiety/anger/bad thoughts/”pressurized head”). Though I gave things some time I realized that the depressive symptoms were beginning to return as well.
Upon investigation it seems that RiteAid switched to a different manufacturer for their supply of generic Zoloft. Though well aware of some generics not working as well brand name I’d not heard of differences from one generic to another. I was given the last few old stock 100mg tablets they had remaining to see if in taking them instead would improve my symptoms and sure enough I began to feel relief.
I’ll be talking to my pharmacist to see what can be done. I’m curious if anyone else has had a “generic to generic” reaction, but I do know that in my case it definitely was an issue.
pietje
here’s our whole problem,and not even a generic producer! please watch this. http://www.thepoptort.com/2011/01/60-minutes-and-glaxosmithklines-whistleblower.html
J. Smith
Escitalopram Generic: Lexamil
After suffering from major depression for over 30 years, I was prescribed Cerelax, the patented form of escitalopram in South Africa. After 5 wonderful years, during which I felt ‘normal’ for the first time since I could remember, my medical insurance company insisted that I go on to the generic form, called Lexamil in South Africa. Do not be confused by the names – Lexamil is definitely the generic in this country, even though the patented form has this name in America.
Since my conversion two months ago, my depression and anxiety have returned with a vengeance. Most of the complaints on this site relate to the generic for Wellbutrin.
Is there anyone else out there who has had problems with the escitalopram generic? Please write in if you have.
I am completely horrified that this situation has been allowed to develop and continue. I feel so sorry for those who have suffered needlessly from the effects of all generic drugs, particularly those with terminal illnesses. This is an absolute disgrace. Depression simply ruins your life; when you find relief and it is taken away, it is devastating. I shudder to think how many people have taken their own lives because of ineffective generics. Can’t the doctors do anything? Can we, the victims?
NOTE TO SKEPTICS: I AM AN ENGLISH TEACHER, SO HOPEFULLY YOU WILL FIND FEW ERRORS IN MY LETTER. HOW DARE YOU IMPLY THAT THESE LETTERS ARE MADE UP BY DRUG COMPANIES. I SUGGEST THAT YOU HAVE NEVER SUFFERED FROM THE EFFECTS OF GENERICS AS WE HAVE.
Jess
Diane,
You should contact your local United Way office. Where I live, our division of United Way has a program called “Health and Handicapped Services”, and it is a part of United Way that helps people who are low income and without insurance purchase their medications.
It is not on a continual basis, just a once or twice assistance. Typically, they try to help you get signed up for long term assistance either through other organizations or through the pharmaceutical companies themselves. Their funds are limited, so sometimes they can only purchase a partial amount of the prescription, depending on the cost. There are some qualifications to meet for assistance, but if help can be given, it is immediate. I hope this helps you.
MB
Paroxetine, the generic form of Paxil, was switched to a different supplier again via Medco. But this is an annual if not semi-annual occurrence with all of my drugs.
My wife was telling me I was extra grouchy, as well as feeling awful, skin peeling, runny nose, sweating profusely. Changed the supplier of the Paroxetine from (Zydus) to (Teva) and lost the peeling skin, and she lost the grouchy husband. Now I have to find out which one, or combination of, generic 6 other drugs from Zydus and other India dumps are killing me!
MM
I’m a 69 y/o woman who has taken Cozaar for 9 years after finding an ACE inhibitor drug made me cough. I started on Cozaar (losartan potassium) 50 mg, which was raised 4 or 5 years ago to Cozaar (losartan potassium) 100mg. This has kept my BP within normal limits, no problem. In addition I follow a low salt healthy diet high in veggies and fruit and no bad oils.
Six weeks ago, Oct 5, my insurer’s drug provider sent losartan (generic) in place of Cozaar. My BP shot up and has remained high, often higher than 160/90. I allowed 3 weeks to verify this. Took me 3 more weeks to get an appointment, earlier this week, with my doctor. My BP, taken twice in his office, was 170/90+ then above 160/90. When I raised the issue of the generic he hummed and hawed about functional equivalence, possible effect of non-med ingredients (fillers), mentioned cost savings, and added a generic diuretic (25mg) to the generic losartan.
I am not satisfied. Yesterday, even with the diuretic added, my BP was above 180/95. Currently, a few hours after taking 100 mg generic losartan plus 25,g diuretic, my BP after sitting is 161/83.
So I’ve asked my doc to re-prescribe Cozaar with no substitution allowed. I would rather experiment by seeing if this brings my BP DOWN rather continue this experiment of seeing it continues UP.
Of course, if going back on the brand name drug had NO lowering effect, then I’ll know that just by chance this switch to generic coincided with a surge in my BP. Seems like a stretch to me.
I am irked that my doctor repeatedly mentions which drugs are “very cheap” — e.g. the generic diuretic — when I have never ever expressed to him that low cost is my priority over and above my health. I pay good money for my health insurance including prescription coverage and I don’t want my doctor second-guessing my budget for me when the risk for me is a possible stroke.
Would be interested to know if others have had any comparable experiences with Cozaar vs generic losartan.
Losartan, I discover, is made by Teva Pharamaceuticals. In April U.S., according to a Reuters news story, regulators warned Teva Pharmaceutical Industries about manufacturing violations at a California plant.
HL
I was in the same position with Wellbutrin 150 XL. No generic worked for me because of the time-release formula difference. However, I came up with a solution myself. Instead of XL, I asked my doctor if I could try taking the non-extended release generic 75 twice a day. I have been doing that for months now and find it not only works, but works better than the brand XL.
I don’t know why doctors don’t think of this obvious solution since the problem is not in the generic wellbutrin but the time release formula. The XL formula was an unnecessary gimmick in my opinion. You just have to take two instead of one pill a day. If I were you, I would at least try this before giving up on something that has worked so well for you. The generic brand I take is Sandoz. If this works for you, too, please let other people know. I think many people are suffering unnecessarily.
K.J.
I, like quite a few of you had been taking Wellbutrin 300XL for about 5 years with no problem. Insurance switched me to generic. After about 6 months, I was slipping back to depression. I told my doctor and he told me it was well documented that the generic didn’t perform as well as name brand. Not because they didn’t have the same ingredients (they do) but the Wellbutrin’s time release formula is patented so the generic can’t use that same time release so much more of the drug is released into the blood stream faster (made me irritable) and out of the system faster, made me depressed.
He requested the pharmacy that it was medically necessary for me to have the brand name. I pick up the drug and it’s a whooping $240.00.
My Dr. even wrote the insurance company to cover it because the generic didn’t work. They refused to cover it still saying that they will only consider covering a drug not on their preferred list if the patient is extremely close to death. How’s that for the insurance company looking out for my health!
So for the past 15 months, I have shelled out over $3000 for a drug that used to cost me $40 a month. I’m getting off of it, can’t afford it anymore and am saying no to the generic. Hopefully I won’t need it anymore and will take my chances.
HL
Generic Zoloft, works for my hubby, but not for me. Every year during renewing my meds I have to fight the Insurance Company. Don’t they think I would rather pay less!! I just want to a normal productive person who doesn’t scream at her kids.
JB
My husband recently switched to the generic version of Zoloft made by Greenstone. I noticed that he seemed more driven & irritable and less patient. Then he had a really bad morning & I realized that I was dealing with the husband I had had before he started on Zoloft at all.
Unfortunately, that was when I mentioned to him that maybe the generic sertraline wasn’t working as well & he got so mad at me. To me, that was another indicator that it wasn’t working. He hasn’t spoken to me since & I don’t know how to convince him to get back on the proper medication. He’s said before that the actual Zoloft changed his life & he wished he’d started it sooner. Hopefully, he’ll recognize the difference & come around, but I feel like this generic brand has caused a major problem for our marriage.
patricia m.
My doctor prescribed Wellbutrin 150 a day and it worked! I was SO happy to have my life back! Recently the insurance demanded I use Generic – and after a few days of generic I started feeling like I did before I started taking the medication. I was terrified that I’d end up back in a horrible state or even the hospital. I started having the same horrible depression and anxiety problems that I had before I started taking Wellbutrin. So, I began taking 2 of the generic (300mg) and I’m feeling better again. This is while we are on an extended trip to visit our daughter and grandchildren, so I’ll have to wait for another week to check this with my doctor. I’m convinced the generic is not a strong or uses different ingredients.
C.W.
I take Inderal (10 mg) occasionally whenever I experience a rapid heartbeat. A few years ago, Wyeth discontinued their 10 mg tablet and I was forced to use a generic Propranolol. The generic does not work as quickly as the Inderal. I called Wyeth and their representative said that there had been other similar complaints with the Propranolol generic.
ck
I’ve been buying my medications for diabetes, high blood pressure, and depression from Walmart for years. I was on Metformin 1000 mg twice a day and could not take the generic I received at Walmart because it made me sick. It also did not seem to control my blood sugar very well.
I also have 2 herniated disks in my back with tremendous pain. My doctor gave me Vicodin and I received no relief. He increased it to Percocet and I still had no relief of pain. I rarely take pain medications and if felt as if I had taken nothing.
I was getting more relief from extra strength Tylenol. I had my doctor rewrite all my prescriptions and took them to a different pharmacy. My new medicines are generic but they work so much better. My blood sugar is under control and the metformin no longer makes me sick. The pain medicine works much better also. In fact I only have to take one half of the Vicodin 10/500 to get relief.
I have to wonder about the quality of the generics I was receiving from Walmart. The generics at my new pharmacy are made by a different company and they are only $3.00 a month for a 30 day supply of medications. Like Walmart, they have a list of medications that are under this program. The pharmacy is at Ingles Grocery. Not all Ingles have an in store pharmacy so I’m lucky to be close to one.
Also the lines are nothing like the ones I stood in at the Walmart pharmacy. I do not work for Ingles. I’m just saying if your generics from one pharmacy do not work then try another pharmacy that gets their generics from a different manufacturer. You may be as surprised as I was. The name of the company that manufactures your medications is on your medicine bottle label.
GG
I have been doing well for years with my depression until I was switched to the generic for Effexor. Constant headaches, body aches, and deepening depression in the five weeks since began the generic form. Now have to battle with the insurance company. Why upset the apple cart when all is going well. Who knows where or how this medication was made… all I know is that I feel rotten!
T Dan
Years ago I was put on Effexor XR samples, once they lost their patent I was put on a generic brand. I complained the the doctor and the pharmacist that the generic was not the same. The doctor took me off the generic effexor and put me on Prozac samples. I was great just like the name brand Effexor. When my insurance company Anthem of Virginia wanted me to have generic prozac.
I started having anxiety attacks and could not breathe. The doctor tried me on Zoloft samples. It was awesome. I felt like a new person back to my old self but better. The doctor wrote me a prescription for Zoloft but, my Anthem Insurance company was going to charge me $111.0 monthly. I could not afford that. So they gave me a generic brand of Zoloft. I have done nothing but go down hill from there.
I usually get my prescriptions from K Mart Pharmacy. I don’t know what to think anymore. Am I being give the cheapest knockoff generic brands from this pharmacy or who does the FDA thinks they are fooling. GENERIC BRANDS ARE NOT THE SAME. HELLO!
Diane
Is there any place where you can get the generic Wellbutrin 150 XL for the $4 or $10 costs so many pharmacies are offering? I’ve lost my job and insurance and can’t afford the price the pharmacy quoted yet I have been taking it for years and certainly don’t want to quit and go back to where I was before I took it. Or is there any other drug alternative with no side effects that could be just as helpful? Thanks
Dawn Fletcher
I’ve been prescribed the same medication and wondered how you’ve been doing on it. Thanks so much.
Dawn F.
Diane, where were you able to get a three mo. supply for $250? I was quoted about $250 per mo from CVS, Walgreens and Walmart for Wellbutrin XL. Thanks so much.
Dawn F.
I was just prescribed buproprion XL manufactured by ACTAVIS as well and wondered what you found out since you’ve been on it a while…. Thanks so much.
GT
This is an outrage!! Due to some circumstances, I have had a terrible year. I dreaded just waking up in the mornings, I lost all the pleasure in my life, did not want to associate with anyone. I just wanted to die, and could understand how people would want to commit suicide, something which I have never experienced before. I was having OCD thoughts and severe anxiety. So I was prescribed 20 mg Prozac, which they filled out with Fluoxetine.
I took it for a few weeks but it didn’t really work. Now, I know they say to give it up to 6-8 weeks, but after Googling and researching around, I knew I couldn’t afford to keep experimenting with generics, as I was ready to throw myself out the window, so I asked my pharmacist for the real Prozac. (It was hard to find, actually. She literally had to hunt it down, and had to have it shipped to her from a sister pharmacy: This one was manufactured by Dista, a division of Eli Lilly.)
Well, within TWO days, bam, I am laughing, smiling, so much better. (I am in Canada and not sure if the actual Eli Lilly Prozac is available here.) The generic was $45 I think, but the real thing is $93–almost $2 a pill. I’m not sure if my extended insurance will cover it, but I am well prepared to pay that out of my own pocket for my peace and happiness.
My question to People’s Pharmacy/anyone out there: I know Dista is a branch of Eli Lilly, but does anyone know if Dista Prozac is considered to be the EXACT same thing as the Eli Lilly Prozac, including fillers and bioavailablity? Because it seems to work for me, so I hope it works for others, too! Thx so much :)
HL
THERE IS A POSSIBLE SOLUTION!!!!!!
I had awful results when my insurance forced me to change to a generic wellbutrin xl 150. Since the problem apparently comes from the extended release mechanism in the generics, I asked my doctor to switch me to non-xl generic wellbutrin 75 taken twice daily. So far this seems to be working. As this seems a pretty obvious and easy solution, I wonder why the FDA and doctors don’t recommend this. I hope this helps someone else, too. I’d also be interested to hear whether others have tried this and it failed to work for them.
CAM
I have been taking Wellbutrin SR for over 10 years with great success in controlling my depression. I started taking it after going through menopause. To describe my success with Wellbutrin is akin to saying “what depression” “what medication”. My quality of life had returned and it was as if I had no medical issue or was taking any medication.
This year my husbands company changed medical providers and the drug company will not cover the cost of Wellbutrin so I was switched to Bupropion XL. I started having severe joint and muscle aches, could not figure out why. The depression returned, having difficulty concentrating, insomnia, bizarre nightmares when I do sleep, and my tolerance level plummeted.
I started snapping at everyone. I have a great family and great job which are suffering severely because the insurance companies care more about the bottom line than providing people with what they need to function and have a quality life. Not sure what I will do as the cost of name brand Wellbutrin is beyond me.
So much for the better medical care promised by the President and Congress. Oh yeah remember they promised choice and we would be in control. Yeah right! This is just the start of what we are in for in the future. Those that can pay, the wealthy of our society, will have the best care, those that cannot will receive assembly line type care. If you fit great if you do not tough!
What the government and insurance companies do not recognize is a healthy society is a productive society.
Val
Well. The insurance company has the advantage of saying that the FDA has given an equivalent rating (as far as effectiveness) to the generic. But, when you let the FDA know that it is not equivalent for you, they will tell you they don’t care (essentially).
While it is a scientific fact that generics can deliver quite different from brand, and can cause dramatic difference in response for the patient – the FDA doesn’t care. The insurance company will keep telling you it is about the contract, and the FDA will keep telling you that they don’t make medical determinations – since it is up to the patient’s doctor. It is like being on the most moronic merry go round ever, all the while the FDA keeps doing nothing and the insurance company can just keep telling you – that you have to pay more.
I won an appeal after a year – on behalf of my daughter. She is a poor metabolizer and on multiple meds for psychosis (autism and schizophrenia). The switch to generic, should have never been forced due to her clinical record (which the insurance ignored even as it was at their disposal) and due to the diagnostic tests that showed her atypical response to meds.
The insurance company kept saying it was about the contract and that generic is absolutely the same as brand. I didn’t get a concession until I called the main person and told them I have a lawyer who said I had a over 50 percent chance of prevailing in court – at that point they actually looked at my daughter’s record and admitted that nothing should be changed due to medical necessity.
The fact is that the insurance companies levels for appeal are based on making you wait as long as possible for positive outcome in your favor so that you will give up on even insisting there is a medical necessity for you. I was paying over 400 a month when it should have only been 40 – and not many people would be able to wait it out that long (a full year) while battling with insurance.
The insurance companies have everyone over a barrel. Plain and simple. I AM NOT AN EXPERT, JUST A PERSON WHO KNOWS THIS FROM MY OWN EXPERIENCE.
YW
Thank God I am not alone.
I have taken brand Valium for chronic vertigo for 30 years. March of this year I was forced by my insurance company to take Diazapam. Within 2 days I had severe vertigo, tremors, lack of sleep, increased arrhythmia (I have an arrhythmia). I could not function.
My Dr. ordered my insurance that I must have brand due to failure of generic diazapam. The insurance said ok, but it will cost you $656 for a 90 supply as opposed to $12 for generic. Do I have any recourse? Does anyone know what else I can do. I can’t afford $656.
TIA
KS
I have been taking Wellbutrin XL for 30 years. I have tried numerous medications and this is the only one that I can tolerate. The first sign that I see that the medication is not working is that I get extremely tired. I was doing fine until a few months ago when I noticed I didn’t have any energy and that I was sleeping longer hours. Also a few months ago our insurance company switched online prescription companies.
The medication that I am taking is Bupropion HCL XL 300 mg. Manufactured by Anchen. After doing some online research I discovered that the TEVA medication that is so often mentioned is affiliated with Anchen and is not made in the USA. How can the FDA have jurisdiction over foreign manufacturing?
I have contacted my doctor to put me back on the real Wellbutrin. I hate to think of the cost. But if it’s a matter of quality of life then I will have to find a way to afford it.
Lynne M
Arimidex and Anastrozole: I had been taking Arimidex for about 3.5 years daily. This drug is an oral chemo-therapeutic drug that works against the recurrence of breast cancer. It did come with certain expected side effects which I had gotten past, such as bone pain, headaches, tingling in fingers and toes. There are more side effects listed with this drug and thankfully, I did not experience all of them.
I told myself that I needed to weigh the negative side effects against the remission potential. I started taking Anastrozole and monitored myself for a week for changes and new symptoms. I found my fatigue level rose dramatically and I started to bruise spontaneously. I couldn’t keep on taking the generic. I was barely functioning.
The healthcare company had insisted I use the generic as soon as it was available. They had to acquiesce and pay half of the expensive drug when contacted by my doctor.
Jan A.
I have been taking Synthroid 0.15mg since 1975. My physician has tried levothyroxine as a substitute, but cannot get the same results with the same dosage. She has tried adjusting the amount of the dosage higher and lower and still cannot get the same results. So in my case, the generic is NOT the same as the brand name.
Jennie B
The only time I have problems with generics are when the medication is a type that crosses the blood/brain barrier. In those cases, if I have been taking the name brand and switch to generic, it’s as if I’m taking absolutely nothing, and all my old symptoms come right back. But if the generic is for anything else, it seems to work just fine. It is frustrating, though, to live in the Land of the Free and Home of the Brave and be TOLD which meds you will take.
Jebbie
Have started generic Effexor XR, and it is not working right! Have taken brand-name for 5 years – feel like I am in withdrawal – brain zaps, nausea, aches – you name it, classic withdrawal symptoms – same problems as Wellbutrin XL generic?
EG
I have celiac disease as well as allergies to several foods and inert pill ingredients. Every time I start a new medication or brand, I have to contact the manufacturer to find out what’s in the formulation. A few companies have actually told me that they don’t know what’s in the pills. They just get their raw materials from their suppliers, from the likes of China or wherever, but don’t actually know what’s really in it. They’ve actually admitted this to me. Isn’t that reassuring for all of us?
I’ve mentioned my medication here before, but on the up side, it was because I was going to be switched to another generic brand of Cortef “equivalent” that I discovered the answer to my severe, life-threatening health decline of the previous many months. The new generic company didn’t know what was in the pills–they literally told me this–and that was why I had to go on name brand Cortef. Overnight, my symptoms of very poorly controlled adrenal insufficiency vanished.
One doctor later told me that that is what happens–people’s levels become more stable on the name brand. Another doctor refused to believe me, because, you know, all generics are bioequivalent. It’s extremely frustrating. And terrifying. I know that if I wind up hospitalized, the generic is probably what I’ll be getting.
Allergy issues aside, after my experience it feels like a form of Russian Roulette–will this one have a usable form of the active ingredient in the dose claimed? Not something you want your life to depend upon. My husband lives with a similar reality, since his Parkinson’s medication (Sinemet) once completely stopped working when a generic was substituted. I find it mind-boggling that two people in the same family with very different health issues on completely different medications have experienced profound problems with their generic medications. Anecdotally, a few of our friends have also had similar experiences. Something is so terribly wrong with our regulatory system.
On another note, there is a doctor quality ranking system they’re trying out where I live. One of the criteria they’re judging them on is generic Rx rates. The more generics they prescribe, the higher their “quality” ranking. So it won’t just be the insurance company to fight to get the drugs that work, but your doctor will be worrying about his or her ranking. It’s so hard as it is to live with serious illnesses. It’s cruel to have to go through this.
Suz
Questions that the FDA should be asking these generic drug manufacturers:
1. What is the source of the raw materials for the active ingredients? China? Phillipines? Russia?, Mexico, Columbia,South America?
2. What kind of testing is done by these generic drug manufacturers on these raw materials they receive to determine purity? Does the raw material actually contain the active ingredients at all? Are there any fillers added by the supplier of raw materials to bulk up the product for profit? Are there dangerous impurities in the raw materials?
3. What kind of fillers are being used in the manufacturing process? Some fillers are known to make a drug ineffective and even dangerous.
Maybe the FDA should be checking quality control procedures by doing unannounced inspections routinely in addition to testing a small batch once before approval. That small batch produced for FDA approval is no doubt going to be of top quality so as not to jeopardize approval. The only way to make certain that this “approval” quality is maintained is to do these random and unannounced inspections of both the raw materials, the manufacturing process, and the final product!
SKD
I was just prescribed Bupropion XL 150 mg tablets manufactured by Actavis. I have taken name brand Wellbutrin before (don’t remember the dose or type: regular release, SR, or XL), but it worked amazingly with no side effects whatsoever. A year and a half ago I took a generic bupropion XL 150 mg for SADD and I felt nothing but side effects (terrible tumbling in my ear, feeling of dizziness and imbalance, like I was going to topple over and spaciness), so I quit and just suffered through the northern-midwestern dark days of winter…
Back to the present. I have been dealing with long term stress in my family for three years and exercise and diet are not longer staving off the depression. I called my GP at the urging of a mental health professional to start up Wellbutrin again. I picked up my prescription and was not surprised to see it was generic – I tend to be okay with generic since I bought the line that they were equivalent (I had never heard of bio-equivalency before finding this site).
Started taking the med on Thursday, felt pretty good Thursday and Friday. Saturday I had horrible indigestion and my ears and sinuses started hurting, I felt spacey and my brain was really fuzzy. I was lethargic and laid on the couch all day, which is unlike me. I had a headache. I tried to get out and get some exercise, but that just made me more shaky. Sunday still had indigestion, lethargic, spacey, sore throat added in, headache, and total downer mood. Monday the symptoms continued to get progressively worse and by Monday night my throat, head, and sinuses were pounding, my stomach burned so badly I felt like it would explode – all the way up into my esophagus.
I was anxious and shaky. I actually felt like I was coming down with the flu. I called the doctor on call and he was very dismissive of my symptoms and told me I was probably just coming down with something and suggested I just not take the prescription this morning. I did not take it today and my sore throat has disappeared, my sinuses are not bothered, my headache is gone, but the lethargy is still with me and now my muscles are stiff. NEVER have I had this reaction from name brand Wellbutrin. I called Walgreens to see if they would allow me to switch to the name brand and am going to see my regular Doctor tomorrow. I suspected these symptoms were due to the lesser quality of the generic drug, but now I am sure of it.
I am very happy there is a forum for folks to post about their experiences with generics. It is sad that there may be others out there just accepting horrible side effects as a part of their treatment.
Andrea W.
I was switched to a generic version of Zoloft by my drug store in Toronto. My symptoms and depression and anxiety crept back until I was back to pre treatment condition. It took about six weeks to hit bottom. Now I am back on the brand name and things are wonderful.
How on earth can the medicinal ingredients be the same? It was like I was taking a placebo for six weeks.
PS
After years of various drugs to get my blood pressure down, a combination of CO-Reg and Micardis is working. Twice I’ve tried the generic Co-reg and within a few weeks, my pressure is back up. I’ve received 2 letters from my ins company suggesting the generic. I’m just waiting to be told I have to change.
D.T.
Thank you so much for your post!! I thought I was going nuts! My brand name Tofranil-PM was substituted with Lupin’s new generic also. I began taking the generic in June and after 14 days I started feeling down and out with mild depression. I thought it was just me. 4 weeks into the generic and began experiencing withdrawal symptoms (dizzy, headaches, flu like symptoms) that I KNOW are from not having enough meds in my system (learned that from experience).
5 weeks and I was at my psychiatrist’s office cause I couldn’t function anymore (full blown depression, severe dizziness, flu symptoms, and hallucinations of all things), and I was at risk of being fired from my job.
We linked my experience to the generic manufactured by Lupin. I too was fine on the generic made by Mallinckrodt, but not one pharmacy had or could access the brand or the generic made by Mallinckrodt. It took 10 MORE DAYS and an overnight shipment to get the medication that I needed!
What’s even worse – I’ve been taking Lupin’s generic for long enough that I’m experiencing different withdrawals from that crap while adjusting myself back on the brand name (anxiety and insomnia)! It’s all so uncomfortable that I’ve been taken out of work and crossing my fingers that short term disability will be approved!
This situation has made me so angry. I was doing so well for 4 years and this dumb generic inequivalent has thrown a stick in my wheel spokes. There really needs to be better governing of the potency of generic medication.
I reported my situation to Lupin Pharmaceuticals, they in return reported the incident to the FDA. Hopefully everyone who has experienced the difference will report it, and something will be done.
Best of luck to you J.S.!! I hope you feel better soon and once again, thanks for posting!
ALB
I just switched from Effexor 75mg XR to the generic. It has been about a week, and during that time I have had almost constant brain zaps. I’m consistent with taking the meds at the same time every day, but I can hardly function. I’m going back to the pharmacy tomorrow to see if I can get the remainder of my generics replaced with real Effexor.
by the way, I had 4 zaps during the time it took to write this :(
Jenny
After taking Effexor XR for over 3 years without any problems, I was switched to its generic form less than 2 weeks ago.
The generic has caused headaches and nausea. In the 2nd week, I am now experiencing an increase in anxiety and depression symptoms that have been otherwise well-controlled and nearly absent for 3 years.
I have requested my doctor and pharmacist fight the insurance company and get my medication switched back to brand-name Effexor XR.
Thaddeus, MD
I spend almost half my working life as an Internist (in SC) with wheelchair forms disability forms and WORST of all paperwork for brand name (and occasionally generic) formulary exceptions. My patients are either uninsured or have HMO Medicaid (Unison from United health care are the Bottom of the Barrel). NOBODY compensates us for this and we get routinely rejected.
The dirtbag pharmas charge too much and the dirtbag insurance companies won’t cough up the money.
This NEEDS to be addressed ASAP!!
I know “cry for the poor physician” you say. Well let me tell you nobody wants to do Primary Care (Internist Family Practice Peds) anymore because of low reimbursement and bureaucratic hassles. We need a Doctor’s Strike in this Country!!
Elsie
Not only are generics not the same — they brought on really bad side-effects that the prescription drug did not. I spent a really uncomfortable 3 months trying to figure out what the problem was. Have learned to insist on the drug as prescribed by my doctors!
MKS
I was using generic Sonata (Zaleplon) from Teva Pharmaceuticals which worked fine. CVS Pharmacy switched me to Zaleplon from Roxanne Pharmaceuticals. It was ineffective at 10 mg dosage and I tried it again last night and woke up with a splitting headache today similar to a migraine.
rc
I was on Losartan for 2 years, and then my pharmacy switched to a generic. Three days later my blood pressure was 170/90. my cardiologist switched me back to the brand name. In 24 hours my blood pressure was back to my normal of 113/60. it’s on my chart now that I need the brand name. They must put enough other ingredients in the generic that it doesn’t work as well.
Janet
Thank you for your post.. I have spent so much money thinking it was something else.. Well over $1,500.00 and I never would of thought it could be the Bupropion XL. I guess I just thought the FDA was thinking out for us, that all the meds were made the same. I was on one generic and switched to a different generic. That’s when my life ended!! But I didn’t know why.. I didn’t think about what I had taken, would make you feel so bad. I had a headache so bad everyday. I would of hit my head on a brick wall if it would of taken the pain away.. No one wanted to listen, they just tell you to take over the counter headache meds.. So Thanks Again for telling your story!!
Sincerely,
Janet T.
J. S.
I was taking name brand Tofranil PM (manufactured by Mallinckrodt Inc.) and had no problems. Was switched to the generic impramine pamoate also manufactured by Mallinckrodt Inc. Again, I had no problems. Then, my pharmacy (without my knowledge or consent) switched to another brand of generic imipramine pamoate manufactured by Lupin Pharmaceuticals. This medication caused racing thoughts, extreme irritability, hypomania and anxiety/panic.
When I requested that Walgreen’s provide me with the generic manufactured by Mallinckrodt, I was initially told that this was no longer available (it mysteriously could no longer be obtained thru their warehouse, even though they had previously obtained it). Only after much research on my part (including repeated arguing with pharmacists and the threat to simply obtain the name brand medication) did Walgreen’s staff supposedly discover they could get the generic manufactured by Mallinckrodt.
Apparently, not only do patients have to battle insurance companies to get effective medication, but on occasion must also reckon with pharmacies unwilling to forgo reduced profit when a patient requests a generic med that would cost them more money.
In short, Imipramine pamoate manufactured by Lupin Pharmaceuticals did not produce the same results as obtained with that manufactured by Mallinckrodt and caused serious negative central nervous system side effects.
RC
Have you tried the name brand Wellbutrin SR 150mg purple pill? That is what I take for my depression twice a day. They tried to switch me to the generic a white pill buproprion hcl with a number on it. It did not work. There are many wellbutrin pills out there name brand and generic. Very confusing, but I know the purple pill with Wellbutrin SR 150mg printed on it in black is what works for me.
Maddy
I have been using generic Imitrex for migraines ever since it became available. The brand name I have been using is Dr. Reddy’s and they are triangle shaped. I have had no problems with them. In May when I refilled my prescription, the pills were rectangular but the same strength and still the same brand name. From the first pill that I took, my migraines increased and for a 2 week period I was sick with migraines like I have never been.
I went to the ER twice and the usual IV medications did not resolve my migraines. The first time in the ER, I received an occipital block that took care of the migraine after the other medications did nothing. After two weeks I refilled the prescription and the pills were the original triangle shape again. The first pill I took completely took away the pain. That’s when I realized that the rectangular pills were the source of my pain for two weeks.
Unfortunately, I just found out the “old triangular” pills are being discontinued and the “new rectangular” pills that made me so sick are the new replacement pills. So much for progress!
TM
I’ve had been taking 10 mg fluoxetine manufactured by Barr for the past year. With my latest refill I was told that Barr had been bought out by Teva so only Teva was available. It’s pretty much worthless. My mood has gone downhill and I can no longer sleep. I tried increasing the dose but I still get the side effects I always got from larger doses. All of the pharmacists I talked to claim that is the only generic fluoxetine they stock. It’s pretty frustrating when you are doing well on a certain drug and they replace it with junk.
BMB
I like so many others on this page had issues when switching from Wellbutrin Brand to generic Budeprion. I’m a 37 year old male with mild depression. I was diagnosed in my early thirties. I went to seek help, because my brother at the same age committed suicide and was never treated for depression. I tried a number of drug combinations with some success, others not so much.
After about 2 years I felt best taking 3x150mg Wellbutrin XL per day and one Lamictal (mood stabilizer). I was not diagnosed with bipolar which Lamictal is often prescribed for, however, it seemed to boost Wellbutrin’s antidepressant effects for me. I felt great. A year or so went by and I switched health-care insurance because of a job change. My new insurance did not cover the Wellbutrin brand. I tried it, my wife noticed a difference in my behavior in only a couple days. I didn’t have some of the more severe reactions reported here, but I did feel very lethargic, depressed (not worse than without it), some times a little woosey-dizzy.
Luckily the insurance company made a exemption for the brand at the time. I recently moved and now under the care of a new psychiatrist. He prescribed the brand, all good. A few months ago he gave me samples of Aplenzin. It is a brand drug equivalent to 450mg of Wellbutrin XL in one pill instead of me having to take 3 Wellbutrin XL 150mg per day. The Aplenzin was awesome, took me from happy 7 on a 10 scale to an 8 1/2 at the height of daily life’s ups and down.
I was feeling great. Unfortunately I made the mistake going onto to my wife’s insurance plan around the same time without first checking drug coverage. Her plan was with the same Health Insurance Company (UHC) which provided me the exception and paid for the brand before (5 years), so I thought I would be covered if doctor wrote me a note. Well, I thought wrong.
Back to the generic Budeprion. Within 3 days I went from feeling at a peak of 8 1/2 to a steady 5 lethargic feeling all day. Ups and downs were now mostly down. UHC has yet to approve the brand Wellbutrin and has turned the new more expensive drug down completely. I’m currently working on a formal appeal.
Is there any lawyers on this list, looks like enough people on this list alone for a class action law suit. I feel for the people who have lost loved ones to suicide, because I know. I understand from my own experience, while I never had suicidal thoughts from the change in brand to generic Wellbutrin, it had an immediate behavior change in me that my loved ones noticed. Best of luck everyone!! -B
JH3
About two months ago, it happened again. I figured my local pharmacy, one of the chain store pharmacies, had gotten a bad batch of the generic. I changed to a different pharmacy chain, which carried a different manufacturer’s form of generic bupropion. That did not help. My symptoms persisted.
My doctor gave me a prescription for the name brand Wellbutrin. The dosing has changed. I’m taking a 300 XL once a day. With the generics, I was taking a 150 XL twice daily. I have now been on the name brand for 14 days. My symptoms continue. I’m not doing well, and my depression is really affecting my work. I’m feeling a little desperate. I don’t have any other health problems that I know of.
My question for the forum is: Have I gotten where I’m no longer sensitive to the drug? Will this drug no longer work for me? Has anyone else experienced symptoms coming back after years of wellness, even with the brand name Wellbutrin? I’m male and middle aged. Has my chemistry changed with age? Is this a problem specific to me, to Wellbutrin, or to anti-depressants in general? Does the efficacy fade over time?
abigail
I did very well on Cytomel, a brand name T3 medication. When I switched to the generic Liothyronine because of cost, I was assured that it was identical. Not so. I became irritable, impatient and cranky. I would blurt out irritable remarks, which was unlike me. I contacted the makers of liothyronine to find out if a binder or filler was the problem. I was told to fill out a form to report the reaction to the FDA.
dmc
Just to let you know…. thyroid meds are not interchangeable… every time you switch brands… even a different generic to another generic… you have to be retested…. have your Dr write ‘no substitutions’ on the script for a specific generic brand… if you stick to the same one generic will be fine once you get levels where you want them.
Niki
I had been taking the brand name drug Wellbutrin 300 XL for quite some time and had been feeling very good on it. For at least the past three months, I have been taking the generic version, Bupropion, manufactured by Angen and feel that it has not been working at all. At first, I thought that I might just have a worse than usual case of the “winter blues”, but it is almost May now… the winter doldrums should certainly have lifted by now. I am now having my doctor write a “letter of medical necessity” to request the brand name Wellbutrin for me again. Hopefully, this will help.
ebm
SR, there is a homeopathic med for restless legs, it works! but slowly, available at
health stores. For chronic cases taken every half hour, no food, drink or mint toothpaste 10-15 min prior or after use.
Jennie E.
I am (or was) a normal, happy graduate student at Harvard. I have taken zoloft for almost a decade, barely remembering what it was for or how much I needed it. I even believed that I might have grown out of the anxiety, the OCD, and the other issues. When I switched to generic sertraline I found out otherwise.
Apparently the law here does not allow them to honor the original prescription, automatically substituting generic unless the doctor specifically states that the actual medication must be dispensed. Over the past three months I have been living a nightmare- all the issues I had as a teenager have come back with a vengeance, and so have the side effects. I don’t care what they say- the generic sertraline is NOT THE SAME. For me, at least, it is synonymous with taking nothing- or worse, if you consider the shakes, the exhaustion, and the nightmares. It is a terrible practice to allow (and/or require) the substitution of generics for the actual drug when a person has used the name brand successfully for years.
AMS
I started Budeprion 300 XL on Monday of this week. Last night (Wednesday), I ended up in the emergency room, having suffered an anxiety attack and thinking that I was dying. I was lying in bed and suddenly, this feeling came over me that I really can’t describe except to say that was a similar feeling to when a muscle relaxer kicks in… since I hadn’t taken anything except the Budeprion, I thought I was dying – something in my brain told me that this is what was happening. It happened again and I called 911 since I was home alone with my two young sons.
When the first responder got here, she immediately told me that she thought the Budeprion was to blame. When they took my vitals, my blood pressure was 137/67…the highest it’s ever been (normally I run around 90/60). I had a really difficult time trying to explain to the paramedics what I had experienced until one of them said, “was it like you were out of your body?” And that’s exactly what it felt like.
In addition to this, I had started hearing noises that weren’t there…my husband’s cell phone ring tone was constantly playing in my head and I thought I could hear it, even in the shower. I thought I was going crazy.
Needless to say, I will NOT be taking this drug anymore. Since my insurance doesn’t allow for me to get the branded drug, I am going to have to consider some other option for my post-partum depression. Anything is better that what I went through last night. I have never been so scared in my entire life. This drug is NOT the equivalent of Wellbutrin XL (which I took for many years without a single side effect) and needs to be pulled from the shelves!!!
pam s.
I have been taking a generic of neurontin for years and recently express scripts sent me something from another manufacturer. At first I thought I was just having a particularly bad day with the nerve pain in my left hip and down my left leg and foot. That sometimes happens. But it got worse and worse. I finally wondered if there was something wrong with my new meds, so I took some of the old ones I keep in the car (in case I’m out somewhere and have forgotten to put some in my purse–I take 4X day). Well, the old ones immediately worked. A few days later I tried the new meds again with the same result. I am going to return them to the pharmacy and see if they can refill from the other manufacturer.
D. Baker
I began on the generic version of Wellbutrin SR marketed by Teva. I had a large number of the side effects and eventually begged my doctor to write me a new prescription demanding the use of brand name only. It took over a week for Walgreen’s to get the brand name in. Since I began taking the brand name product, I have none of the prior side effects of the generic. There is a huge difference in the products, whether the FDA agrees or not.
boris
For 7 years I was taking zopiclon and it worked well. Now the pharmacy gave me zopiclon generic from an Indian company, Matrix ltd., and I get serious heart palpitations one hour after taking it, and a much higher blood pressure.
NVJ
My problem isn’t as serious as these listed,however it is annoying.
I was switched to 2 generic medications.LISINOPRIL AND SIMVASTATIN.
Since then I took a test for an aortic abdominal aneurism which was very hard to read by the medic because I was loaded with GAS.
Besides the GAS problem I also have loose stool mixed with gas and water.
I thought it might be from the chewing of sugar free gum but I stopped that a month ago and my problem still exists.
Is there anyone out there who has the same problem? Please respond.
I do not eat gassy foods.
HAROLD L.
WARNING
Oxycodone Generic by Amneal is a serious problem for my wife. Having been switched by CVS from Watson to Amneal she has violent body twitching. Switching back to Watson solved problem.
She has had chronic pain 25 years. Oxycodone has helped a lot. Just think if she had taken the Amneal drug first she would have gone all these years in pain as we would have assumed she couldn’t take the drug without the side affect.
Side Issue;
Having substantial experience with doctors and having a scientific mind I have concluded the following:
If a Doctor cannot determine what is wrong with you they often state it is Psychogenic,ie. its in your mind. This really means, “if I can’t figure it has to be your fault.” Not true!
NR
Treated with Adderal XR at 30mg/day in high school; it was effective, with less negative side-effects than other medications tried over the course of my treatment history. Building a tolerance to the prescription after approximately one year, and feeling dissociative and confused, I discontinued the medication.
Three years later, I received CorePharma 20mg amphetamine salts. I was able to retain my awareness and mental faculties, but had the added benefit of being more focused and productive.
Recently, the generics were switched to Barr 20mg. My reaction was one of utter contrast; I was confused, dazed, spacey, and awkward. After speaking with my physician, we switched back to the Adderall XR 30mg; THAT JUNK IS THE SAME!
CorePharma is also apparently not available to order?
SLH
I never bought into the “education” that generics are the “same” as brand names. After a few years working in the medical field, I learned of a few docs who feel the same way. On the other hand, some pharmaceutical companies have been able to brain wash other docs into believing their hype.
Believe me there are ENT’s out there who KNOW many of the generics cause problems for certain issues. A lot of the time it comes down to the “cost effective” binders and fillers used in the generics, in comparison to the way the brand names are made. This is where some individuals have allergic reactions. They think they are allergic to the drug itself, but many times that is not the case, but instead are having a reaction to a binder or filler.
An example of this would be a family MD writes a script for an antibiotic and allows a generic to be dispensed. The patient finds his symptoms are getting worse, yet this is an antibiotic that ‘should’ be effective against this certain organism. The MD may change antibiotics, yet the patient still feels worse. Finally an ENT sees the patient and prescribes a brand name drug, and the patient starts feeling better. The ENT educates the patient that according to his history he admits being allergic to: (example: corn) There may be our example of corn base to the generic binders and fillers, yet NOT so in the brand name drug prescribed.
Another example is if pain medication or muscle relaxers are prescribed and the patient starts itching and the skin turns red after taking the generic, yet he or she can take the brand name of the drug without reactions of this example. We have seen many other examples of these circumstances, but the public has to be aware it is up to them to perhaps have to pay for the drug if their insurance ONLY pays for the generic.
We all know brand name as well as generic drugs are dangerous. Look at the recalls, and the long term adverse health issues where attorneys get involved after deaths, cardiac or strokes have occurred after some drugs have been on the market for awhile. It makes us wonder why the drugs were initially approved for release to the public. Some of the above examples have happened with family members, as well as individuals I encountered only at the work place. We can only hope someday drugs will be mandated to list ALL ingredients, including binders and fillers.
K E
Concerning teeth, hands, and feet, in that order, these are areas where the body has large bundles of nerve endings–all ready to receive loads of pain. You won’t die, but you will feel like it. Pain killers meet incoming pain to the brain, well known. Not so well known is the more pain the fewer med. side effects, dizziness, slight “high”, comfort, etc. Too often, too little pain med is prescribed for nerve cluster centers in the body–it’s only a tooth, broken finger, etc. It’s difficult to ask doctor’s for more pain medicine. Calmly tell your Dr. or nurse prac. of the excruciating pain you felt the last time a doctor wasn’t aware of the serious pain these, thankfully, less serious injuries cause. OK, sometimes I refer to phantom bad doctor from my past to compliment (& explain) to my Dr. why I’m asking for His/her ”wise & understanding ” help.
There are many good doctors, but they are over worked & need gentle, eye contact!, full attention! reminders just like the rest of us sometimes to focus on their work–that’s you, the patient, you are important to them, keep the faith & thank God for modern medicine—one of our best friend’s a polio victim, she just turned 59.
You do need something stronger, tooth pain is no joke!
LJM
I have been taking protonix (40mg) for seven years for gerd with excellent results. All of a sudden recently I had a dramatic recurrence of symptoms. Couldn’t figure out why. Then I remembered that I was switched eight days ago to the new generic version (round pill instead of oval, with the imprint “124”; I believe it’s manufactured by Caraco, a subsidiary of Sun Pharmaceuticals). I am seeing the doctor today to see if I can switch back to the previous brand.
I am a scientist, so I am well aware that anecdotal information, especially about medicine responses, can be very suspect. Nevertheless, I think this deserves further investigation, if reports of problems turn out to be widespread. It is also interesting to note that Wyeth has sued the manufacturer of the generic I took, claiming that the product is not the same as theirs and that it is being falsely advertised as such.
Of course this could just be a ploy to milk more money out of the market. But it is intriguing. The generic apparently is a different “polymorph” (monohydrate instead of sesquihydrate). Different polymorphs are apparently considered equivalent by FDA, but couldn’t they have different dissolution properties? I hope someone will investigate.
L Lavanco
I have suffered from headaches my entire life. After being tested by a variety of physicians of different specialties, including pyschiatry, an ENT doctor told me I do not aerate my sinus properly. It creates a vacuum in the area above my nose between my eyebrows. Things such as allergies and low barometric pressure will make the situation so much worse that I would wake up in the middle of the night is such severe pain I would want to cut my head off.
I could not function and could not find relief. I would use a massager on my head, put my head under hot water, and generally go crazy. I’m sure that exaggerated the whole situation. But the pain would escalate.
After many years of this suffering, I was finally introduced to Fioricet. It was like a miracle. If I could take one at the start of the headache, it never got to the point where I could not function.
The only catch is that it must be the BRAND not the generic. The generic does absolutely nothing. So the less amount of money I pay is like tossing that money in the garbage.
When I asked my pharmacist why the generic would not work. I thought they were supposed to be the same. He told me that the active ingredients are the same. It is the inactive ingredients that make the difference in how one’s body processes the pill.
I have a great sensitivity to most drugs and take very little. But now I can’t help but wonder if I don’t get results from other meds because they are generic. I will add that the Humana drug plan will not accept the brand of Fioricet (not the one with codeine) so I have to pay $100 a month out of pocket. I do not have a choice. This does not seem fair to me. Before I went on Medicare the insurance company accepted Frioricet. Any suggestions would be most appreciated.
S. Sanders
I ordered the generic for Nexium from a pharmacy in Canada. The product actually came from India. It like to have killed me!!! I had a very bad reaction with hives, swollen face and lips. It was several days before I realized it had to be the pill I was taking.
I have taken Nexium with no problem, but couldn’t afford to get it any more. I really would like to have this drug analyzed. I was on a trip when I first started taking this drug and when I got home I grabbed the box to find out where it came from and sure enough it was from India.
I will tell everyone I know NOT to go through a Canadian pharmacy because the drugs actually come from China or India. I hope these products are banned from the USA!!! If there is a place I can send this product for analyzation please let me know!!! I truly believe it is contaminated.
ebm
Diana, my friend is also on amlodipine, they added lisinopril which gave him a hacking
cough as a side effect, and it was replaced by Cozaar. None of them are working, his BP is still hovering between 145-156. Now that I see your complaint I think it’s probably the amlodipine. Now they are giving him a third one, soon to arrive from the VA and I am anxious to see which one it is. Good luck.
Don
Taken Cozaar for 13 years for hypertension. NO generic in the U.S. so bought a “listed” generic across the border in Canada. Made by a known company but bp shot up within a week. Had to return to Cozaar. The generic company was Cipla.
Maryellen S.
I have been taking Risperdal for 6 years, then the pharmacy switched to a different generic. It was better than taking nothing at all, but all of my problems came back. I went to a different pharmacy and got a different generic and that generic is ok. Seems now we have to shop around for generics!
Ruth B.
I was switched to generic Wellbutrin without my consent by my insurance. Within one day I was twitching, physically uncomfortable due to feelings of shocks, dizzy, nauseous, and then finally — seizuring.
After I went back to my brand-name Wellbutrin, I was fine. My doctor wrote my prescriptions with “No substitutions” and sometimes the insurance would pay, sometimes they’d argue. There was no consistency even though their policy is to pay for a No Sub prescription.
Last year, the insurance company started paying attention to the huge number of complaints about generic Wellbutrin, and decided they would once again pay for the name brand. Unfortunately, another drug I am on, Seroquel, has now been produced in generic form and I have to pay the difference between generic and brand-name. Again, they sometimes will fill my No Sub prescriptions, sometimes insurance will reject the claim.
My doctor is a strong campaigner for generics not being used. She is on stomach medication, tried the generic, and was in a lot of pain and had to switch back. I’m glad I have a doctor that understands.
Pat M.
I’ve noticed a sharp decrease in quality and effectiveness of generic drugs recently, particularly, but not exclusively, those made in India. The effectiveness and side effects of these generics differs from manufacturer to manufacturer, documented below.
Ranitidine (Zantac) made by Glenmark: absolutely ineffective, as if I’m taking nothing, I have acid-reflux symptoms again. I’ve been taking generic Ranitidine for several years with great results, but this is like a placebo.
Zolpidem (Ambien) made by Ranbaxy (India): gave me severe headaches, exhaustion, muscular aches.
Zolpidem (Ambien) made by Torrent (India): also gave me severe headaches and muscular aches.
Zolpidem (Ambien) made by Teva USA: completely ineffective, it does not help me go to sleep or stay asleep, unlike Ambien and generics I’ve taken previously. It’s rather like speed, in fact, has the opposite than desired effect.
I will have to pay very high co-payments to get the brand name drugs, but at least my insurance allows me to pay more for drugs that work. It’s outrageous.
marka
PLEASE,PLEASE,PLEASE tell me where you get Brand Name Wellbutrin. I have been unable to find any pharmacy who carries it. My prescription reads absolutely NO GENERICS. I would be so apprecitive. Marka
KR
Generic Teva brand topiramate worked almost as well as brand name Topamax to prevent my daughter’s migraine headaches with no apparent side effects–she had only 2-3 headaches while on it in the last month, only one bad headache.
On the Apotex topiramate she actually had headaches more often than when she was taking nothing, because she had headaches every day on that manufacturer’s generic drug. But since our insurance company’s denial of the brand name was reversed by the independent company that handles secondary appeals, I can now get the brand name Topamx (for only a little more than the generic with our insurance) and her neurologist agrees she should be on the brand name drug because there is less variation allowed in the amount of active ingredient from one batch to another of the brand name (up to 10%) than is allowed for the generics (which are allowed to vary up to 20%)–not to mention that the brand name drug worked very well for her with no problems/adverse effects.
Also, since generics are not “identical” to brand name, but “equivalent” they may have different fillers and may metabolize slightly differently than the brand name drugs, so you may not get the same effect, or you could have a problem/adverse effect from something in the generic that was not in the brand name drug (or, vice-versa, I suppose).
I’m not anti-generic. I’ve successfully used the generic version of several drugs for years. Generics are fine when they DO work as well as brand name, but when they don’t, or when it might be dangerous to do a “let’s try it and see if it works” approach, people should be able to use the medication that works, without all the obstacles put in place by insurance companies to keep their costs down.
Doesn’t it seem obvious that more people would be willing and able to use generics if the companies manufacturing generics had to follow the same guidelines and use the same ingredients, including fillers/colorings, as the brand name originators of the drugs? That’s part of the problem with the current rules. Just like it seems too much to ask that drugs be allowed to be consistently the same size/shape/color for the same dose of the same drug to prevent confusion or errors, no matter who manufactures it once the original patent is up and generics are available. Too much protection for proprietary branding when it wins out over common sense and safety.
Karen W.
I too almost lost my mind on a generic tablet for anxiety. The switch to generic made me start hearing noises and having horrible anxiety. I had a similar bad experience with a medicine for hiatal hernia I almost ended up in the hospital. The pain was incredible. Just yesterday I took Xanax xr name brand only to WALMART to be filled and when they handed it to me it was the generic… the woman said and I quote “All of Walmarts generics come from China, there’s no telling whats in them” Her words not mine. Now I’m afraid to take it…
My insurance co pushes me into generics but this was just a total foopah on their part filling it with a generic when it clearly said name brand only. How many more people are they going to kill before they go back to letting us have our name brand meds paid for?
M L C
REGARDING GENERIC KEPPRA: I JUST LOCATED ONE EXAMPLE in People’s Pharmacy CITING SEIZURES EXPERIENCED USING GENERIC KEPPRA: I am very concerned because I switched a couple months ago to generic keppra (I am senior on medicare and cost was so high… My mood fluctuations, sleep & irritability have been noticeably off kilter – I was doing very well on the brand name Keppra.
A New York Times Saturday, December 19th, 2009 PRINT article that I had been saving for upcoming doctor’s appointment mentioned People’s Pharmacy, and had a couple paragraphs regarding problems with generic KEPPRA, & also mentioned there is some way to check source of generic keppra, since pharmacies change suppliers.
But when I pulled NYT article up online, all references to keppra and how to check company, supplier have been removed. Have other people using generic keppra for bipolar control had problems? I am taking higher dose, but still seem very uneven…Thanks for whatever help you can give.
vjgower
I would bet that generic would be the Doctor Reddi brand. I am not sure about the spelling, but I got these very large and bright pink pills for generic fexofenadine and they tasted awful and made me burp that taste up, plus it didn’t control my symptoms. One of my patients and one of my friends got the same thing with the same effects at about the same time. I called the pharmacy and they told me the name of the manufacturer and then I asked the wife of the friend who was having the same effects as I was having (the woman is a chemist with a drug manufacturer) and she told me some things about the quality of generics is supposed to be the same but isn’t necessarily, and the MDs at work verified this.
I told my pharmacy that this drug did not work for me and they agreed to keep my preferred brand of generic in stock for me.
Carla
Wellbutrin Budeprion Generic is a Nightmare!!! I can’t believe how bad it’s become after 4 weeks. I decided to wait to see if the side effects would subside however they actually became worse. I feel out of control, hopeless, not myself, extreme lack of motivation, unable to perform the simplest tasks due to lack of desire. All I do is lay around and try to figure out why I can’t get motivated, so very weird and surreal
1. Crying all the time
2. Unable to motivate
3. Unable to sleep
4. Nausea
5. Heart papulations
6. Depression worse
7. Short tempered
8. Anxiety
9. Agitation
10. Bad nightmares
11. Gained 10 pounds in 3 weeks
12. Bad taste in my mouth
12. Did I say I feel worse than ever!!!
Generic should be banned! FDA should pay attention to consumer complaints
JLF
My wife recently had some surgical procedures. On discharge from the outpatient surgery she was given hydrocodone and a zofran generic, Ondansetron. I filled the prescription across the street at Walgreens which used a Dr. Reddys ondansetron. She had levels of nausea that she had not experienced in a long time; in short, the Dr. Reddy generic lacked the control of nausea which she had received from zofran. It was still over $10 per pill.
MKK
I’ve been taking Lamictal for bipolar disorder for 5+ years — with great success. On October 1 the pharmacy switched me to one of Lamictal’s generic counterparts, lamotrigine. By the middle of that month I was in the worst manic/depressive state I’ve experienced in two decades. I contacted my doctor, asked her to call in a brand-only prescription, and I paid a $147 co-pay to get the Lamictal. In less than ten days of returning to Lamictal, life was good again.
I’ve continued to pay the $147 co-pay to stay on the brand drug while my doctor begins the appeals process with my insurance company. My hope: My insurance company will recognize how dangerous the generic can be in my particular situation, and they’ll allow me to return to my $30/month co-pay for Lamictal.
Heather
I have been taking Lamictal for a over a year. When I tried a generic, all my symptoms came back in a couple of weeks. Fortunately, my doctor was able to give me a coupon from the drug company to offset the high copay for the brand drug. The generic I took just doesn’t work and that’s frightening, especially for a drug like this one.
ora
I took Lamictal with good results for a year. Later substituted lamotrigine by Teva and had no change. But the pharmacy then substituted generic lamotrigine by Cadila/ Zydus and I had terrible results. I’m back on Teva’s generic now and feeling well again. Not only are generics different from brand, generics differ by manufacturer, too.
sds
To all of those people who make decisions for the rest of us!!! Unless you have “been there” then you should be listening to the people who have!!
I take Dilantin, a solely Park Davis product, to control seizures, an awful disorder at best!! My insurance company years ago insisted that I take the generic Phenytoin. I did and had seizures almost immediately…so severely, in fact, that I had two on top of each other and had to be revived from near death!! I have insisted since then that I get the Dilantin product. Thankfully is has worked for me.
Apparently, the delivery system that each drug employs is what causes the difference. Dilantin is powder form and the Phenytoin is a little caplet inside a capsule, go figure! Either way I am a captive audience since Park Davis is the only company that makes Dilantin. Hopefully soon someone important, like John Travolta, will have something to say about how the rest of us are treated like cattle when it comes to those who have something to say to the rest of us that have “been there”.
Jill
I have been taking Allegra D for about 4 years and it works great. Last month the pharmacist gave me GENERIC Allegra D. I have been totally miserable for the last month. Last night I did not even sleep. I could not stop blowing my nose, I was stuffed up, could not breath. A total tired miserable mess. You can not tell me the ingredients are the same.
AR
I have been taking prozac for many years with good results. A few years ago our health insurance made it pretty much mandatory to use a mail order prescription provider. They switched me to a generic and things were fine for a while. Last year was more stressful than usual and I sunk into a horrible state. I made it to work but spent most of the other time sleeping. The dark thoughts returned.
I went to the doctor twice. He checked my blood levels and everything seemed normal except for a vitamin d deficiency. My depression continued. Then I talked to a friend of mine that is also a long time prozac user, we were going through the same situation. We had both noticed a change in the capsule colors a couple of times during the year.
We both went back to our doctors and requested the real prozac not a generic. The change for both of us is dramatic. I know they say generics are as good as the real thing but who knows where they are made and what consistent controls are in place in other countries that supply the generics?
LCM
I am another person whose insurance company started charging me astronomical amounts for Wellbutrin XL, so I tried the generic. Within a week I felt like I had never been on an antidepressant. My doctor switched me back to the twice-a-day, non-time released version, thinking the generic version of the twice-a-day would solve my problem. That didn’t work either and I am now back on Wellbutrin XL. Interestingly, it took me longer to stabilize this time than it did when I first started taking Wellbutrin.
Luckily for me, perhaps because of complaints, the insurance company took Wellbutrin off its list of drugs for which the insured had to pay full freight. It is now back on the list that requires me to pay a premium above my usual co-pay, but it is still MUCH less expensive than it had been. Bottom line: Anybody who says the generic is the same as the brand may be correct – for some people. I’m not one of them.
A N
I take Plaquenil for JRA and three times I’ve tried a generic version and all three times my JRA symptoms flared. I pay a fortune for the name-brand, but I don’t feel that I have a choice.
Slo
I had the same experience as other Seasonale users. I was fine on the first generic, but apparently they stopped making it. On the next generic, I gained weight and would start crying for almost no reason. I have to be extremely explicit with the pharmacy because three times, they’ve given me generic instead of the brand. The last time, I just used the generic, figuring I’d see if the problem continued. It was the exact same situation as the previous time.
BAK
My son took Wellbutrin XL300 for quite some time and it did a wonderful job of controlling his depression, until our health plan said he would have to pay full price or use the generic, Budeprion XL300. He switched to the generic and within a week he completely crashed. He would sit on his bed holding his pillow, rocking back and forth and crying uncontrollably.
During the daytime he was extremely anxious and was in constant motion, saying his mind was racing from one thing to another. This went on for over a month. His studies suffered greatly. His dad and I decided we would pay the full price for the Wellbutrin XL300 since our son cannot afford it. He is back to a normal life. His depression is under control and he will graduate college next semester.
For the FDA or the AMA to insist that these two drugs are the same even when confronted with reports to the contrary from patients who have taken both, indicates to me either a complete lack of caring, or rampant stupidity among those who are supposed to be the intellectually elite. This drug is absolutely essential to the mental stability of those whose depression warrants taking it.
DA
I always had the Barr generic Adderall, until well, they tried to kill us with overdosing their 20mg tablets in July 2009. So all Barr generics were taken off the market in a mass recall (too little, too late). I am now occasionally getting the pink (Corepharma) tablets. I honestly thought it was just me, maybe I was tired or not sleeping and that’s why the pink Corepharma versions weren’t working. I got the Barr Adderall pills again, took a Corepharma in the morning and the Barr in the afternoon — holy smokes. It’s night and day.
Although I am not convinced that Barr may be consistently using more “active ingredient” than the Corepharma pills — I do believe that the curve is much steeper and faster for Barr than the Corepharma versions. The Corepharma never gives you the “OK, I’m focused, let’s roll” feeling, it’s very very slow and extremely subtle.
Adderall is extremely sensitive to gastric pH, I’m convinced the filler of Corepharma is absorbed differently.
tk
Having big problems with generic lamictal maufactured by cadista, used to treat bipolar. relapse in symptoms and uncomfortable muscle twitches/teeth clenching.
mfs
As part of my treatment for my stage IV cancer, I received chemotherapy and radiation prior to surgery. A few months after treatment I was diagnosed with clinical depression. I was prescribed Wellbutrin 300 XL. It took approximately two weeks for the drug to have an impact on my depression but it worked!!
After several months, my insurance company refused my prescription and substituted Budeprion XL 300. Given the prohibitive cost of Wellbutrin, I took the generic substitute Budeprion. After about two weeks my depression returned with a vengeance. I informed my psychiatrist and she was kind enough to write a new prescription which put me back on Wellbutrin and she must justify the designation of this brand, on a monthly basis, to my insurance company.
After about ten days, the Wellbutrin medication brought me back to some semblance of normalcy. After this experience I read about bio-equivalency and bio-availability. Suffice it to say that I was shocked that the government and industry could attempt to make me take the generic version and claim that they were “equivalent” based on the standards that I read. Most of the generic substitutes that I must still take are effective; however, I will not substitute a generic for Wellbutrin, Synthroid or Ambien.
It is time that government and the insurance industry recognize that the lack of efficacy is not a result of some reverse placebo effect; the generic versions do not work for many of us. Wellbutrin is not a recreational drug, I insist on this brand because it works, not because I enjoy a monthly copay of $100 for the 450 dosage that I currently require.
AA
I also had problems with generic Wellbutrin XL 300. I have found that the bioequivalence issue is very important when it comes to oral contraceptives–lo-ovral and the generic equivalent are somewhat different. Lastly the worst problem I encountered was switching from Klonopin to generic clonazepam: the half lives were different and the generic wore off earlier, leaving me to go through withdrawal symptoms all night. I’ve had to go back to the brand which is really expensive.
SP
There is no way that all generics are equivalent to their brand name counterparts. I’ve tried several times to switch from Ritalin to a generic and each time, my ADHD symptoms reappear and I begin feeling depressed and anxious.
Luckily, my doc circles ‘Dispense as Prescribed’ on the Rx, but I worry that my insurance co will dispute it one day.
Why doesn’t anyone take this seriously?
DKM
My pharmacy at CVS refilled my prescription for Metoprolol Tartrate with a different generic, switching from Caraco to Mylan. My blood pressure has increased almost 30 points each on the upper and lower readings ever since the switch 30 days ago, checking it several times a week. If CVS can no longer obtain it from Caraco, I will have to change to the non-generic Toprol.
Elissa
My daughter has sturge-weber syndrome that causes seizures. She’s been on keppra for two years and it has dramatically decreased the incidence of seizures (every 3 months). I filled her meds in July and noticed a difference label. I told them I needed keppra and asked what it was. They told me it was keppra (not generic, just “it is keppra.”) Thus, I assumed this was the full name (i.e. Prozac is actually called fluoxetine) and gave it to my daughter.
She then proceeded to have seizures every 4 weeks. Two days ago the Sturge-Weber newsletter reported breakthrough seizures with the generic keppra so I looked up the generic name and found that this was what my daughter has been taking since July. I called her neurologist, who had extensively discussed the generic option with me months ago, and I specifically said I didn’t want it. He, in fact, had been writing “DAW” and the pharmacy had given us the generic, nonetheless.
I am stunned that it is legal to dispense something not approved by a doctor, particularly when the effects are so potentially harmful. Sturge-Weber seizures are characterized by oxygen deprivation to the brain, so any seizures are damaging. I am outraged and would like some suggestions about what to do about this so it doesn’t happen to other people. I am already in the process of speaking to my senators and would welcome other ideas.
CRW
My husband had a stroke 4 yrs ago and began having major seizures. When he was put on Keppra, the seizures were under control. In Jan 2009, the pharmacy gave us the generic keppra and he had a major seizure—-the first in nearly a year. Fortunately, our neurologist immediately put my husband back on the name brand Keppra. It is controlling his seizures again. The pharmacist insists that there is no difference!
It is expensive, but it worth it to give us both the quality of life that we want.
Chris
I noticed a significant difference in generic Prozac vs the real thing. On generic Prozac my depression returned within a few weeks. I contacted my doctor a few months later who switched me back to real Prozac. On the real Prozac my symptoms abated and everything was back to normal fairly soon. I am now very careful with generics – even if it costs me $30 more it is worth the feeling of well being.
R A Ball
I had taken Diovan HCT (160/12.5 mg daily) for hypertension since a heart attack in 1998. My blood pressure was well controlled with an average of about 125/65.
Earlier this year RxAmerica removed Diovan from their formulary; they suggested I try Benicar or Micardis HCT as a substitute. After two months of trying Benicar and Micardis my blood pressure was averaging about 145/95.
When presented with these results RxAmerica granted me an exception to return to Diovan, at least for the remainder of 2009. Unfortunately, I now take two Diovan a day, at twice the cost, and my blood pressure is almost as good as it was before this experiment began.
KR
For anyone who is having good results with one manufacturer’s generic, but bad results with another, several pharmacies in my area have said that if I find one generic that works, that as long as that manufacturer continues to make the drug, they can special order the generic from that manufacturer for me so that my daughter can use the one that works for her.
You can also call your local pharmacies and ask what company’s generic they have in stock, because most of them seem to understand that there can be variability in how well a specific one works for an individual. It would be even better if I could get our insurance to approve continuing my daughter on the brand name that we know worked well for her for 2 years with no adverse effects– I’m on my second appeal now. Instead we have to either pay $290 a month out of pocket, or play “generic roulette” while we try to find one that works.
So far the generic topiramate from Apotex is out– it didn’t work at all. She had headaches every day for almost a month (even after we tried increasing her dose) until I bought some brand name Topamax (McNeil) and had her back on that for a few days (same dose as she has been on for 8-9 months). Relief at last. Unfortunately, McNeil doesn’t make their own generic for Topamax (some companies do make generic versions of their brand name drugs). We’re trying Teva topiramate next, now that we’ve run out of the McNeil Topamax. Wish us luck– I’ll let you know if it works out.
Another interesting thing is that the FDA issued a warning letter to Apotex last summer about violations of manufacturing standards/practices involving one of their plants during an inspection last December–and what was one of the drugs listed as affected by this? Their generic topiramate. You can find the letter on the FDA website. It makes me wonder about the quality of any of their products manufactured and shipped to the US last year, especially since their topiramate did not work at all for my daughter.
The FDA letter “warns” that failure to correct these problems “may” result in denying entry of products manufactured at that plant to the US. I would certainly hope so. Apparently Apotex recalled some of their topiramate in November, but not the dose my daughter takes. Maybe they should. I have no idea which plant made her medication. I’ll be filing a report with the FDA re our experience, but I won’t hold my breath.
I know that any company can have a problem at anytime, but to me there is a world of difference between a one-time error and repeated failure to observe standards or good manufacturing practices. I also know I won’t be using anything manufactured by Apotex anytime soon. Once burned…
Christine
Hi all, I’ve taken Ambien for years before switching to zolpidem. The cost difference is really unbelievable. I’ve found, however, that I respond very differently to different brands of zolpidem. I’ve tried two versions (sorry I don’t know the name of the manufacturers) that were both small white oval pills. Neither one seemed to work consistently: sometimes it worked right away, sometimes it took over an hour to take effect, sometimes it didn’t work at all.
I’ve had very good luck with the round lavender pill formulated (in West Virginia, not China!!) by Mylan. I get it at CVS. The pharmacists there were kind enough to give me a couple of different formulations until I found one that worked, and the Mylan product has worked for me consistently. Also the pill is large enough so I can break it in half or even quarters, since I don’t usually need a full 10 mg.
Shop around for a pharmacist who will let you try different generics. If you have bad luck with one generic formulation, don’t assume that all generics are bad.
N W Smith
I’ve been using the generic metoprolol for 20 years. I have HBP that’s an inherited condition, mother’s side of the family, though relatively mild: even at my worst, my BP was 140/110.
The dose I took then and now was the 50mg, once a day (lately, half in the morning and half at night). For the first few months, I sometimes had some GI track rumblings unless I took it with food, but that’s not been an issue since. The effect it had on my BP was immediate and positive: even when I weighed 255 pounds and was WAY out of shape, it kept my blood pressure at 120/80 like clockwork. When I finally lost the weight (down to 175, what I weighed in high school) and started a very modest daily exercise program (walking for an hour or two each day), my BP dropped even lower, 110/75 in some cases.
As a caveat, my HBP seems mild compared to others: my mother was surprised by what I was taking (metoprolol had stopped being adequate for her in the 1970s) and how little I was taking to get me back to “normal”.
As to side-effects, I can’t speak to any.
HZ
What were the bad effects from taking generic valium?
LB
I have been on Dilantin for many years. I have been toying with the idea of going to generic. I intend to remain with it with the feeling if it is not broke don’t fix it. I will stay with what I know has worked.
There are variables in the degree of effectiveness with mood altering medications but little room for error with epilepsy. The cost is too great to wonder about the unknown/uncertain.
I had my concerns about generics and reading the above commentary solidifies them. Each person is an individual and medicine too often does not allow for that reality. Add to that diet, food additives, drug interaction, fluid intake and we are truly not the same.
Remember officially “0” really can be “.9” on the label for hydrogenated oil.
Where else does 1 not equal 1? Many here have already found out.
K R
What was the name of the manufacturer of generic topamax that worked well? My daughter tried the generic from Apotex and it did not work at all. I’m trying to decide which generic to try next while I appeal with Express Scripts to get her back on the brand name Topamax from McNeil.
If anyone has any suggestions, Thanks!
HJT
I was doing fine on the generic Wellbutrin XL(bupropion) for years, but then my insurance demanded I use their mail-order version. After taking that for a month or two, my depression came back worse than ever, it was really awful. My doctor put me on the name-brand, and I got better right away.
Now I’m going to have to pay out-of-pocket because I have to switch insurance, and the pharmacy tells me they can’t get the old generic that used to work for me anymore, all they have is the new stuff that is no good. It’s a terrible situation when the insurance companies insist you use a worthless drug. The FDA needs to approve a generic that actually works.
infairness
In fairness to fishy, I have to agree that I started to get suspicious about a quarter of a way down this very long comment stretch. I’ve read my share of long comment series, and the very high percentages of well written, similar-tone, similar-style comments, often repeatedly about the same drugs, is really unusual. Especially when there’s a general lack of badly written posts. It’s true. Comments sections just about never look this good.
I’m not saying that none of you are real, and frankly writing outrage in response doesn’t clear anything up anyway, so please don’t go there. I came here concerned about the issue like everyone else, but if I’m made to be suspicious, that doesn’t help me make decisions.
To the webmaster/people’s pharmacy: you’re the one who can help clear this up. Are you moderating down poorly-written comments? Are these comments all coming from disparate IP addresses? Anything else? On such a big issue as this, any clarity you can help bring would be exceedingly helpful and important, so could you give us a (clearly labeled) response?
PEOPLE’S PHARMACY RESPONSE: YES. WE EDIT COMMENTS FOR SPELLING AND GRAMMAR AND DON’T POST THOSE THAT ARE ESPECIALLY POORLY WRITTEN. ALMOST ALL OF THE COMMENTS ARE COMING FROM DIFFERENT IP ADDRESSES. (SOME PEOPLE HAVE POSTED TWICE.) I HOPE THAT ALLAYS YOUR SUSPICIONS. WE HAVE NO REASON TO BELIEVE THIS IS AN ORCHESTRATED CAMPAIGN, AS IT HAS ACCUMULATED OVER A VERY LONG TIME.
MSC
I have been taking Prozac or its generic equivalent (fluoxetine) for 13 years. My depression has been very well controlled during this time. In mid-October my pharmacy switched my generic fluoxetine, manufactured by Mallinkrodt, to the generic manufactured by Teva.
Within days of the switch I was depressed, irritable, and had serious trouble sleeping. By the beginning of December I realized that something was very wrong and that it was very likely related to my switch to the Teva fluoxetine. I asked the pharmacist to switch me to my previous generic or to the brand name Prozac. He could not (or would not) do this for me. Further, I asked him how one would report a suspected mis-formulation for this lot of Teva fluoxetine. He responded that he had the power to report it, but that he would not report it because he did not believe me. I then asked him for the lot number of the presumed defective lot so I could report it myself. He flat out refused to tell me the lot number.
I filled the prescription for a different generic fluoxetine at a more professional pharmacy. Within 3 days I was sleeping properly again and am back to my normal self.
JL
I bave been taking a low (10mg) dose of Paxil (paroxetine) for depression prophalaxis for the last 9 years. About 6 years ago I was switched to a generic with no noticeable difference in efficacy, nor any side effects that I can recall. A month ago my pharmacy filled my prescription with an apparently different paroxetine generic (different color; pink instead of white). For a couple of nights I had some mild side effects (night waking, mild anxiety, some limb stiffness) which resolved, and I seem to be OK now.
So–no significant problem to report. But I do have to wonder why, if the generic product is supposed identical to the branded version, there would be *any* noticeable effects of a change in manufacturer?
DK
I have taken Wellbutrin xl 150 and generic wellbutrin xl 150 by Watson (budeprion xl). I recently took an unknown generic and after about 12 days became worse then I was prior to ever taking medication. I went to the pharmacy and replaced the generic with Wellbutrin 150 xl. Immediately (within 1/2 hour) I felt better. Up until that point I thought I was going insane. Amazing.
DAL
Fishy,
I don’t know about anyone else, but I resent that you believe my mother is a pharmacy rep. She is 80 years old and suffered dearly after taking Warfarin. For you to discount her claim is beyond reckless. As for accurate spelling, drugs are a serious matter and I take it upon myself to make sure I know spelling and pronunciation. My mother’s life depends on that and I’m sure the others would share that same sentiment. And finally, your paranoia about who is posting comments can be tossed right back at you.
Maybe you are a generic drug rep trying to save your own skin. If so, then you have blood on your hands each day you go home from work.
VB
You are kidding right…You don’t really think that pharma reps are in cahoots with people’s pharmacy and the whole gig was really to provide a platform to promote brand name drugs. Sounds more like you are “fishing” without a hook.
Fishy
There is something VERY fishy about all these comments. They all are written in a very similar style & tone, with the brand name drugs spelled & capitalized correctly. Seems like pharma reps are trying to promote their brand-name version of drugs!!!
DAL
My mother was on Coumadin for a number of years when suddenly she was switched to generic drug Warfarin. She began having side effects of dreaming and waking up early and not being able to get back to sleep. She was also having an aching stomach and breaking out in a cold sweat to where she had to sit down or pass out.
As soon as she was switched back to Coumadin, these side effects were gone.
Ann
Hello,
While the health issues were different for my daughter. We had the same scenario, BCBS has a tier policy that automatically switches your benefit level when a generic is considered of equal therapeutic value by the FDA. I have the entire appeal process that we went through on my daughter’s behalf posted on the medication portion of theyeartheartstopped.com.
My experience showed me that you must be able to convey your issues to the Chief Medical Officer for review if you want to succeed with your appeal. NO matter what might be told to you at the customer service level. There is a second level appeal that you can do if the first level fails. We were rejected through both appeal processes, and then asked our state to intervene but that failed as well. Then I called the CMO of Wellmark (and got through to him for some reason) and he looked over Sarah’s record or felt I had provided new information that allowed our appeal to be granted. I was glad because the next step was going to be getting a lawyer and going to court, which I dreaded.
Norman
Due to a recent Insurance change from Atena to BCBS I am now paying $400 a month rather than $40 a month on a brand vs. generic, Percoset vs. oxycodone.
I have chronic back problems, fused vertebra, bone spurs on vertebra. I have had
Kyphoplasty on my L5, epidurals and radiofrequency (nerveburning).
I can attest to the fact that the generic oxycodone does not work nearly as
well as the brand Percoset.
My Dr. agrees and I am in the process of doing an appeal on this.
So no generics are not the same, maybe for some but not for all!
JP
Can you list the generics that can cause problems, if known.
PEOPLE’S PHARMACY RESPONSE:
You will find drugs with a narrow therapeutic index (which may be more problematical when substituted) can be found in our Guide to Saving Money on Medicine.
Rachel K.
I have been prescribed Wellbutrin SR for the last several years for depression. The pharmacy substituted generic in spite of the order for Wellbutrin. I experience nervousness, insomnia, diaphoresis (sweating), and other more minor side effects with the generic and have none of these symptoms with the name brand drug. The pharmacy continues to substitute unless I call monthly and demand the name brand.
Betty B. from Cleveland, OH
I was taking generic Lisinopril (Prenvil) at $4.00 from the local Giant Eagle Supermarket pharmacy for the past year. My blood pressure never went below 146/95. My doctor kept saying you just have to adjust your diet and exercise more. And by the way–you should come in for an office visit every three months to watch this.
I went to a different doctor at a health fair recently and he prescribed Lisinopril (Lupin) or regular/non-generic version. It hasn’t been quite a month since I’ve started taking it and my blood pressure is already down to 128/88 at my follow up appointment the other day!!! This generic Lisinopril in my case is garbage. And why my former doctor didn’t address or switch this for a year has me fuming!
Joe
I’m in Canada, and without any notice, was switched from the generic ace inhibitor, 5mg APO-Ramipril (from Apotex) to 5mg RAN-Ramipril (from Ranbaxy). I was fine with the Apotex generic for 5 years, but suddenly I was having wheezing, shortness of breath, extreme dizziness and fatigue, and fainting spells, heavy feeling legs, and day to day things seemed impossible to do.
Of course, I went to the doctor, and he shrugged it off, and I even went to the hospital to get checked out. All tests came back ‘normal.’ I was frustrated and felt sick and about to do a refill, only then did I notice this manufacturing change. I am mad, as the last few months have been hell. I am switching back to the Apo-ramipril generic asap.
After doing some reading, it seems Ranbaxy just recently got approval to make the generic ramipril. (Made in India?) EVERY GENERIC IS NOT THE SAME!!!
Do not expect your doctor or pharmacist to tell you this. My pharmacists flatly said it was just a coincidence that I had all the side effects and it was probably related to something else. Funny, how they do not want to believe their patients’ adverse events! Wonder how much more PROFIT they are making with the change to an *even cheaper* generic.
Needless to say, I will be changing pharmacies shortly.
Val
Amen to your comment.
The FDA is handing our good health (on a platter) over to the insurance companies, and allowing us to be made sick by the use of different enough (fillers and 20% allowed difference with regard to bioavailability) and many times inferior medications.
The FDA further, has chosen to ignore the problems their rating is causing.
It is criminal.
E.G.
The problem is nobody has any recourse as long as the FDA, and many doctors, keep insisting that these obviously inferior and dangerous drugs are “bio-equivalent.” I would be surprised, judging from my own experiences and that of my husband, if there haven’t already been deaths from some of these generics.
I commented earlier about how I couldn’t get my adrenal insufficiency controlled due to what turned out to be my generic adrenal replacement. What was also galling was I kept calling the university medical center that was treating me (I don’t live nearby), and even after flying down there at great expense for an appointment, detailing how poorly I was doing, nobody suggested it might be the brand of my drug.
Then, due to my unrelated celiac disease, I later had to switch to the name brand to ensure it would be gluten free, which my generic no longer would claim to be. When I mentioned this to the doctor, she told me matter-of-factly that when I was on the name brand, I would find that my levels would become more stable. They knew!
They probably had known all along, but kept prescribing the generic and never suggested I try the name brand. I had been so sick my life was ruined. I literally thought I was going to die. Is it some sort of medical taboo to suggest not using a generic? Is the power of the pharmaceutical and insurance industries that great? It was pretty obvious from what the doctor had said that I certainly wasn’t the only patient who’d had a problem.
In my husband’s case, he suddenly had his Parkinson’s become completely uncontrolled when they switched him to a different brand of pill. I come across stories of people with Parkinson’s who seem to be descending far more rapidly into disability, and wonder if it’s only because they’re on generic dopamine replacement. That’s a very disturbing thought.
Of course, we’ve had to fight our insurers and pay a lot more just to get medications that actually work. Some independent body needs to start testing these pharmaceuticals and holding these companies accountable. What will it take–a congressional inquiry? The FDA needs to be challenged on its stance that generics are the same, when many of them obviously are not. New generic companies are springing up all over. It’s a racket. Nobody’s safe with these things flooding the market and everyone being forced to switch to them.
monique
My insurance company switched me to the generic form of Lotrel without my permission and I also found it did not maintain my blood pressure at good level and caused me headaches. The insurance companies do not have the patient’s best interests in mind, they just want to save money to employers.
I suspect this will cause them lawsuits when people’s health is compromised due to lack of concern from insurance companies.
This is a free country and a patient should be able to choose to pay the higher copay and receive the brand name if he so prefers.
Kathy
Please count me among those who have experienced problems with generic for Wellbutrin. I’d been on Wellbutrin 150 XL since 2008 for mild depression and was doing quite well on it. In late spring of 2009, I was in an accident resulting in quite a bit of physical pain and medical treatment, and had to increase my dose to 300 mg XL to help me through that. I’ve been much better, am almost through my medical issues and had expected to begin working with my doctor on lowering the dose again.
Because our insurance plan is insisting that we switch to generics where possible, I decided to try Budeprion 300mg this last refill. My cost is $10 for the generic, and $120+ for the name brand. Within a week I was more depressed than before I went on it a year ago. I have no situational depression issues these days; life is pretty good. But within a week of beginning the generic, I was having trouble sleeping, feeling miserable and wondering if the world would be better off without me.
I know I’m ok, that I shouldn’t be depressed, but I couldn’t shake the despondency. When I stopped taking it, even without replacing it with the name brand, I began to feel better. I’m now trying to get a replacement name brand prescription, but will probably have to pay for it off insurance.
Bruno
I purchased generic Effexor XR (venlafaxine) from a Canadian website and the “medication” came from India. Shortly after taking the pills I began having SEVERE joint pain in such places as my jaw, shoulders, back, hips, and knees. For a while I could not even open my mouth and one of my knees got so stiff and swollen that I could barley walk.
Today, almost a year later, I am still having joint pain. Although it is not as bad, I have been to the doctor several times and they have done blood tests, x-rays, and other things. I am currently waiting for more blood test results. I think that the pills gave me something and until proven otherwise I will think this. I wish there was something I could do…
Susan H.
I guess nobody listens and has any concern about generic vs brand name drugs. Another Medicare Plan D provider has discontinued covering brand name ambien and zoloft for 2010 because generics are available, even though 2010 Medical Plan D covers the brand names.
I would advise everyone to review their 2010 Plan D providers to insure that what was covered for 2009 is covered for 2010. This may take a lot of effort for seniors to review all 2010 Plan D providers to find something that may cover at the least cost their drugs. This is very important and means a lot of out of pocket expense for seniors.
I thought I had a Plan D provider that had the interest of seniors in mind when I signed up with them.
tlc
Have been on 100 mg/day of atenolol for high BP for about 5 yrs. Sept. 2, 2009 I had to go to the doctor for an exam in order to get the script renewed. She asked me if I objected to her switching me to metoprolol. I asked her why she wanted to (I was completely unaware of the recent problems). She said because the extended release was more consistent. I said ok.
I took the pills for 10 days. During the first five days, I had a bad headache at the temples for 3 days. Sunday after the appt., I began feeling nauseous. Was uncommonly fatigued – exhausted – that whole week, 2 more headaches too. Noticed my heart rate rising throughout that week. Took my BP on Saturday 9/19 and it was 165/110, pulse 103. Hadn’t slept well for a couple nights. Felt extremely nauseous, was having what felt like muted anxiety attacks.
Sunday numbers similarly high, didn’t take the pill, had to go to ER because I thought my heart was going to explode. Also had back pains, lower stomach pains, tightness in chest. EKG fine, all bloodwork and urinalysis negative. ER doc agreed it could be metoprolol or stress/anxiety. I’ve had anxiety attacks, thanks, and this wasn’t in my head. It was the drug.
Went back to my doc Monday and asked her to change me back to atenolol. She really didn’t want to in spite of seeing my readings and the ER visit – just wanted to put me on a diuretic in addition to the metoprolol. I told her I’d read all about the recall and just had no faith in this drug. Said I’d make a deal with her – put me back on atenolol, and I WILL take the diuretic.
Early Tuesday am I took my atenolol w/ the diuretic and felt amazingly better Tues. & Weds. A little shaky this morning but still a darn sight better than with the metoprolol.
I asked the pharmacist when I re-filled my atenolol if they had gotten the memo about metoprolol earlier this year and cleaned out their stock. He assured me they had. I have my doubts about that. Either they didn’t clean out, or this generic is still garbage.
Has anyone else had problems like this with metoprolol after it was re-formulated earlier this year?
BW
It SICKENS ME to think how many people in our day-to-day lives are struggling with the generic Wellbutrin XL but haven’t realized the connection. This page scrolls over two years worth of complaints… and this is only the people that have figured it out. Nevermind that Wellbutrin is the #3 most popular antidepressant and that all the other people have been getting the generic TEVA by default for the last THREE years, not even questioning it because the FDA says it’s “bioequivalent.” How can we ever trust the Fraud and Drug Administration after CFCs, asbestos, Vioxx, and now THIS?!?!
I mean, how hard is it to just admit they’ve made a mistake by approving this terrible garbage?
How hard is it for TEVA to make a simple pill coating that releases the drug gradually, like it needs to be..?
Hoppy
My wife has had similar experiences with the generic form of Topamax. My question is this. What can we do, or where can we go to get this corrected? The typical FDA response is that generics are the same as the original though each of us have pointed out that many are substandard.
MH
I could have written the same post! Had the exact same problems you described. The Greenstone is the worst. Right now I am taking the manufacturer Mylan which doesn’t work as well…but doesn’t make me sick. The Teva brand worked great at 50mg but now am on 100mg of Mylan and not great.
Originally I had the Greenstone and for some reason the pharmacy keeps giving it to me. Last two times they put it in the bottle but labeled the outside Mylan. I filed a complaint and waiting to hear. I think I’m going to have to talk to my Dr. about trying a different med. I really liked the Teva manufacturer and have been trying to find out if its just this pharmacy or not.
mk
I had been on Topomax for 9 years with no issues. It finally went generic about three months ago. Of course I was excited because there were substantial savings each month. I had also underwent two surgeries around the time of the surgery and after the second started to have cardiac issues. Being an avid runner this was something I had never experienced. I was short of breath, chest pain, heart palpitations,etc.
I was swelling throughout the day and bruising all over. I underwent numerous tests. I was hospitalized eventually because the progression was fairly scary. After having and ultrasound, echo-many, wearing a holter monitor, no one could get to the root of the problems. I eventually was admitted to the hospital for a heart cath (at the age of 30).
The light went off shortly after I returned home from that hospital stay that Topomax has went generic and I was now taking it. I started to phase it out, and the issues went away-yes, went away! I am back to running again and feel like my normal self.
PEOPLE’S PHARMACY RESPONSE: WE ALWAYS URGE PEOPLE TO TALK WITH THE DOCTOR BEFORE DISCONTINUING A MEDICATION.
vhs
I just found out I have celiac disease, and need to know if my generic welbutrin (buderprion XL) is gluten free. I am symptomatic and am trying to trace the source.
guerda
does Toprol xl 50mg have recall on it ?
DM
I can totally relate to all the comments posted on the generic of Wellbutrin. A few years ago I had been on the name brand for about 8 months and had no problems. I have been off the medication until recently. The pharmacy filled the medication generically (didn’t think anything of it). After a couple weeks I felt like the medication was not working, in fact, I felt as though I was losing my mind. I felt jittery all the time, restless thoughts haunted me and I felt like I just wasn’t “me.”
I informed my doctor and she increased the dosage to 300mg. In just the next couple of days I felt sick to my stomach and my symptoms got worse. I called my doctor again and she suggested the “name brand” medication(150mg). I can’t tell you how much I appreciate a well educated doctor. My symptoms disappeared within a couple days of taking the name brand. I do have to pay a little more but it’s totally worth it. I feel great.
rpettitjr
I have noticed a difference in my name brand adderall IR since teva has taken over making them. Shire used to make name brand adderall IR until this year. I have been on name brand adderall for 5yrs, but now as of 3-1-2009 I have had bad side affects. I called teva and it is the same formula, so they say. Its makes me daydream more than I used to, and makes my head hurt. I know that the FDA are to busy to investigate anything that makes them get off their seat. And of course there is the insurance company: they will not do any investigation that takes any extra effort.
SA
I had a problem years ago with a generic drug for an allergy and from then on always asked for Brand from my Dr. When my prescription plan switched mail in companies my Dr had to write a new and fax it in. She forgot to write Brand and I received 3 months of generic. Instead of Synthroid I got Levothyroxine Sodium. It was all I had so I took it and it wasn’t long before I noticed my joints aching, I was tired and suffered mood swings. I was due for annual blood work and all these years my thyroid had tested fine until now. One part of the thyroid test was low. I told the Dr. I believed it was the generic drug so she wrote a new one for Brand. I just started it three days ago. Will write again in couple months.
LP
I too, was taking Topamax for migraine maintenance. My pharmacist substituted the generic brand Topiramate without my knowledge. I obviously noticed when I got it home. Within weeks I experienced extreme hair loss, increased migraines, deep depression where I didn’t want to leave my house, cried all the time, fatigued, felt hopeless. I figured it out due to the timing of the hair loss. Within days of stopping the generic brand, I felt 100% normal again. Still losing hair though. I also stopped the brand name Topamax. Tired of being on a drug that causes lethargy.
Very concerned that the FDA isn’t regulating these generic drugs. It’s scary to know that the drug companies only have to test them on 20 people before they get approved. We are basically the guinea pigs for the drug companies. They need to be held accountable.
R.L. Gatto
I am torn between feeling heartened at finding this site, and HORRIFIED at the need for its existence…
I am a 51yr old disabled Veteran, and female. Generally I’d leave my gender out of the equation,
but it matters in pharmacology; doses on most medications are formulated on male test-subjects, aside from the realm of gender-specific hormones, and I’m here to tell you that women don’t always need/tolerate dosages meant for male physiology. Generic or otherwise.
In the mid-’90’s, and proceeding until present, the Veteran’s Administration
medical care system transitioned/s from name-brand medications to generic. Currently, the VA’s formulary is ENTIRELY generic (at the behest of the Government), with the exceptions of those drugs that have no generic version. Notice I say “version”, versus “equivalent”. That’s because, to be “equivalent” it has to be the SAME as the original. Generics clearly are NOT.
In the early ’90’s, I had to undergo a radical hysterectomy. I was 33yrs
at the time, and a decade away from menopause, so the docs put me on
estrogen replacement tabs. I was on the med for a month or so,
when the pharmacy sent me a different pill entirely. I called to check that
it was the same medication, and was told that it was the “generic
equivalent” to the Estradiol. 2mg was considered a fairly high daily dose,
so after a week or so on the generic, I was sitting on the couch, when
suddenly I experienced a mood swing of gargantuan proportions.
One minute, I’m fine and watching an old WB cartoon, and the next,
I’m in tears and can’t stop crying. This went on for four hours.
I called my therapist, and she got me right into her office for an evaluation. I also have PTSD, so we wanted to be sure it wasn’t some flashback precursor. It wasn’t. The damned generic didn’t work, and it had taken a week for the Estradiol to work it’s way out of my system. The new generic was completely useless.
Fortunately, my therapist was qualified to write prescriptions, and she
had a new bottle of the name-brand in my hands before I left the hospital
that day. I had to contact my GYN to specify a “do not substitute” order,
but the pharmacy raised a stink about it. I threatened to go public, they
backed down, but they still required my GYN to re-write the “DNS” order
EVERY month while I was on it. That was back before they realized keeping
women on Estrogen replacement could cause cancer, etc, and they’d told me
I’d have to take this stuff for the rest of my life…
In between then and my most recent experience with generic “replacements” I have been subjected to SEVERAL classes of generic
drugs; pain meds (fibromyalgia/migraines), psychotropics (side-effects from HELL), muscle relaxers (not), and most recently,blood-pressure medications…
I had had a run-in with calcium-channel blockers and ACE inhibitors
back in the ’90’s, while the VA tried to alleviate migraines. After 800mg
3x a day for 5yrs of motrin (generic and not), all I got was GERD. Still had the migraines. This last January, I got a headache that lasted from then until April. I’ve had migraines last up to two weeks before, but not
four freakin’ months…Turned out that somehow, between last year and now,
my blood-pressure shot up to 180/108. My doc put me on 5mg of Lisinopril (name brand), and it brought my bp back down. Gave me a dry throat and a
hack to go along with it, but my bp was down, and the headache had gone. The cough was manageable, but bothersome as I’m a singer. Hard to sustain a note when you feel like you’ve a hairball stuck in your throat…But I could cope with it.
About a month goes by, and the VA hits me with a double-whammy: changed
BOTH my med and my doc at the same time. My regular doc got sent overseas,
and the new guy hadn’t (obviously) had time to evaluate ALL of his new
patients’ files. I’d been on the name-brand for about a month or two, when the prescription ran out and I had to get the doc to renew it. My next
shipment arrived, and the pill was a whole ‘nother COLOUR, size/shape, etc.
I called to check, and sure enough, it’s generic. Bad enough they want me
to cut a 10mg pill in half to achieve the dose they want me on–NOW they
give me a pill shaped like an EGG–how in HELL do you cut THAT in half??? I had to use the pill-cutter, and wound up atomizing the damned pill and
having to eyeball the dose out. Usually, I’m pretty good with that sort of thing, but this time, not so much…The cough became CONSTANT (this was
about the time the Swine Flu alerts began to hit the news), and folks on
the bus were looking at me as though I were Typhoid Mary incarnate. Called
the doc, and he put me on another sort of generic, and that one just made
me feel as though I’d been hit in the chest with a hammer. No energy. BP was down, but so was I…
And then I DID catch the damned flu. I quit ALL meds, aside from some
BP-formulated Coricedin, and three weeks later, I felt better. Took another
week beyond that for the cough to go away, and now it’s a once or twice a
day tickle, as compared to a constant hack. Only problem is, now my BP is
creeping back up again.
I’m living on an income entirely derived from VA and SSDI due to unemployablity for my disabilities, and I can’t remotely
afford to buy name-brand meds for myself. I can’t afford even Medicare Part
B/Medicaid payments, and since my health-care is overseen by the VA, I
SHOULDN’T need it. But the VA’s gone generic. Problem is, I’m not a generic
PATIENT. Nobody is, and we shouldn’t be treated that way. Personally, I’d
like to find out WHY my BP jumped to triple inside of a year–that seems
to me to be the most efficient way to treat the issue, rather than to just
tell the patient “it’s part of aging”. NOBODY in my family has BP problems.
Generics just make the problems worse, from my experience.
And am I the only person that notices that the Fed can tell us we can’t
go to Canada for drugs, but THEY can import crap from places like India or
CHINA (anybody remember the great Pet-Food poisoning of 2005-7? I lost two
cats…or the Anti-Freeze flavoured toothpaste??), that they admittedly don’t have the resources to inspect or monitor? Something DRASTICALLY
wrong with THAT picture…
I think that if a drug company expects us to BELIEVE them when they make the statement that “Generics ARE the same”, they should PROVE it first. Manufacturing should be entirely localized, and if imports are necessary,they should be inspected AT THE BORDER before it ever gets into the production chain. Personally, I’m really over being a guinea-pig for
symptom-obsessed physicians more interested in pushing a pill than addressing the underlying cause for a condition.
I offered to die FOR my country–NOT be killed BY it…
Thanks for listening. ;o]
PS: sorry if this looks like a really long free verse; I’ve run through this editor three times now, and it’s driven me spare…thanks again!
kam
I have read a lot of comments on generic Wellbutrin XL 300mgs. Does anyone have comments on Bupropion HCL SR 200mg? It is also a generic Wellbutrin and is taken twice a day.
SMccool
I have been taking synthroid for a year now when I had to switch insurance companies they would only allow the generic. After three weeks of taking the generic I was back where I started I called my doctor and he said to never take the generic on this again. It has taken me three months to get my level back to normal for a three week mistake. My doctor wrote a letter to my insurance company and they now allow me to get the synthroid. Scary when you think about only three weeks and it took so long to get back to normal.
Madhuri
I took Clonazepam (generic for Klonopin) combined with Lexapro. Within four days my thoughts were so clouded and depressive that my abusive played upon it and had me write thoughts of hurting myself and my kids in my prayer journal. He took that journal to the police, got me charged with terrotistic threats, took a temporary restraining order on me and got my kids and home. I am still fighting the courts to prove that it was side-effects of medication, I am sane and in good health to have my kids back.
ALC
I notice in a posting above that Teva has stopped making Sertraline, generic Zoloft. That explains why my mail order company changed the manufacturer to Cobalt. I had been on Zoloft for at least 15 years until being switched to the Teva generic, both of which worked without a problem. After about a month on the Cobalt version, I realized that my old anxiety was coming back, my appetite was waning, I was having problems getting up in the morning, and was feeling overwhelmed.
All the typical depression signs. I called my doc and got a prescription for Zoloft, so I hope to feel better shortly. The mail order company said Cobalt was the only generic available, but it might be another company at my next refill. Yippee. I can experience this every 3 months. No, I will be sticking to Zoloft, even at the higher price.
Val
When the going gets tough, the moms write press releases. This is about my daughter and the generic battle. It is a conclusion based on what has transpired going through two rounds of appeals, and asking for help from differing governmental agencies…
Aug 17, 2009 – (Sioux Falls, SD) – Wellmark and the FDA have concluded that FDA studies guaranteed efficacy in generic pharmaceutical interventions for those who are sensitive in their response to medication. There appears to be little concern for those who are compromised in ability to metabolize medications.
The FDA does not study generic’s effect on those with compromised metabolization processes, but also feels it is not necessary to do so. During an appeal process for an autistic girl, Wellmark BCBS of South Dakota simply tells her family to experiment by giving her the generic for of Risperdal; in spite of the fact that the switch will require hospitalization and most probably result in failure according to the girl’s doctor. Failure for this child will most probably result in psychosis that leans toward schizophrenia and catatonia; possibly requiring ECT [electroconvulsive shock treatment].
Wellmark does not provide for experimental medicine in its contract, but feels it is okay to experiment on the South Dakota teen who has been well and using Risperdal successfully over the last several years.
Wellmark usually allows exception for medications that fall within a narrow therapeutic index (NTI), Lithium being one example of a NTI. The girl’s slow metabolization of the 2D6 enzyme causes most psychotropic medications to fall into a narrow therapuetic index, since she is in danger of having toxic side effects from them. Since the FDA doesn’t classify Risperdal as a NTI, Wellmark will not recognize the proven findings in the girl’s records.
Generics are allowed to have 20 percent difference in active ingredients and fillers have no requirements. Fillers affect delivery of the active ingredients. For the sensitive population, fillers can make a big difference in how medications will work, not withstanding the 20 percent difference in active ingredients. The generics that pharmacies receive are not required to come from the same facility every time so active and filler ingredients may change each and every month, causing troublesome reactions for those with metabolization problems. Pharmacies simply order from the cheapest source and are not concerned with consistency in delivery of the ingredients of generic medication. Brand medication comes from the same facility every time and deliver the same ingredients every time.
Steve
If you have had a problem with one generic manufacturer, don’t give up hope and try another. I take the Watson version of Wellbutrin XL and have found no difference. If you have not yet tried Watson, call around. I have found that smaller, mom and pop-type drug stores will often get you whatever manufacturer you want. Good luck. If it works — or doesn’t — please post.
MBK
I have had the same problem with a generic Adderall (while never even been on the brand name medication even, was fine with one generic until it was switched) – long story short after all was said and done it’s PAINfully obvious that this isn’t about health care to pharmaceuticals , it’s just a business. I believe there are most likely more compassionate street dealers. The only person who can help you is your doctor – by explaining is medically necessary to receive the correct brand of medication.
My doctor has apologized and thanked me at the same time for making him aware of what too many people are going through. Without doctor’s and their endorsement – these terrible practices of the pharmaceuticals wouldn’t be possible. They’d be out of business. Which leads to the next problem, why aren’t there more doctor’s aware of this or is that they too are just as greedy? We’re the one’s paying for health care – I suggest less internet, more face to face with the actual people who are involved. Worked for me.
JLM
Well, I’m sorry to see so many fellow sufferers but glad to know I’m not the only one to have issues with generic Wellbutrin. I’ve been on Wellbutrin for several years now and it works well at keeping my depression at bay. A number of years ago, I was given the generic by accident and couldn’t figure out what was wrong with me. I was bone tired and most of my depression symptoms returned. It was my doctor who asked if they had given me the generic by mistake, so there is no way my symptoms were manufactured by any preconceived notions about the efficacy of generic drugs.
Switching back to the brand name cured my problem. My insurance, in its infinite wisdom, has dropped Wellbutrin from its formulary beginning in July 2009. It’s the generic for me or $250 a month for the brand name, which I can’t afford. I figured I’d give the generic another shot. Well, my sleep isn’t restful and I can barely get out of bed in the morning. I feel like I’m moving underwater, my joints hurt and I have indigestion. I don’t care what anyone says, the generic versions of Wellbutrin simply do not work like the real thing.
rg
Teva has discontinued the manufacture of Setraline. I contacted Teva customer service to confirm.. In addition, I contacted Pfizer to inquire on why I was having a variety of bad reactions to a variety of generic Zoloft, including Greenstone, which is owned by Pfizer. Pfizer indicated that the ingredients of Greenstone are IDENTICAL to the branded Zoloft and that they supply the active ingredient to Greenstone. Nevertheless, upon ingesting a Greenstone generic Zoloft, I experience a variety of bad reactions,none of which, were experienced on the branded Zoloft or the Teva generic.
Today, my blood pressure, which is normally normal was extremely elevated.
There is definitely a problem.
JR
I wanted to add my comments as well along with the hundreds of others about buproprion and budeprion. For the longest time I thought it was just myself and I had to deal with the changes. I started taking it for two reasons, it was cheaper and they stopped making the Wellbutrin 300 XL. For a while now I have been having feelings of despair, hopelessness, disorganized thinking and anxiety, falling into a depression and mostly weight gain but also I feel angry all the time as well. I tried switching off and tried the generic pro-zac. It too made me feel the same minus the anger.
What can we do?
DWH
I have been using generic bupropion XL 300 mg (NOT Budeprion XL) recently, a version I am told is made by Activis. Have there been any reports of problems with this version? I have not noticed any obvious difference.
mooncat
I have been taking generic metformin for eight months with minimal to no side effects. All of a sudden I get a bottle that looks the same, but smells very strongly fishy, and it has given me severe GI problems. When I mentioned it to my pharmacist, she told me that it was manufactured in Canada (which is supposed to make me feel better I guess) and that GI upset is common with the medication. Well, I KNOW that – but how do you explain the fact that I’ve never had any symptoms for eight months and all of a sudden, wham? And just because the pill is manufactured somewhere doesn’t meant the raw ingredients couldn’t come from anywhere, and I’ll bet they’ve started getting theirs from China. I will now have to ask my doctor for a prescription for Glucophage with no generics and hope/assume that will solve the problem. I can’t go through another month like this!
Both the large chain drug stores and the manufacturers, and down to the individual pharmacists, continue to deny that there could possibly be anything ‘off’ about a bottle of pills, because they are all financially vested in continuing to be able to get the cheap Chinese ingredients.
I foresee in the not too distant future that there will be a nationwide scandal abut Chinese generics just the way there was about pet food, toys, etc. It’s been shown that the Chinese dangerously supplement their products to poisonous and dangerous ingredients – why is it so hard to imagine they would do it with *anything*, including drugs? But it’s really frustrating when you’re told “oh, no, that couldn’t be the problem, OUR drugs are good and safe” – when they actually have no clue whether they are or not. I would be first in line to sue when it finally comes out – mostly because of all the deliberate lying that goes on.
andrea
I just had a horrible experience with generic zoloft. I had been taking the name brand for 6 years and then had to take the generic for 2 wks. Well, I have had 4 panic episodes, heart racing and bad thinking like before I was on the real zoloft. I switched back about a week ago, but the doctor said it will take about 2-4wks to get back on track.
I am sooooo mad that they say the generic works the same, when it doesn’t. I know MANY people that have gone through the same problems. The FDA should really do something about this. I suffered from anxiety/panic attacks for 20 years before going on zoloft. I finally felt what “normal” people felt like and it was Wonderful!! Then to have a generic form mess me completely up is very sad.
Anyway, I have great insurance now and wont have to worry about this happening again. Thanks for your experience and I hope other people get the help they need…
B Barrows
I was just switched to generics, first to generic Lamictal, then generic Keppra. Since the switch to generic Keppra just 2 months ago, I have had 4 seizures, which is more than I have had in the preceding 12 months. I know the FDA says that generic drugs must have the same ‘effectiveness’, but that doesn’t account for the inert, or ‘filler’, ingredients in the pills. Differences in the non-active components could affect the bioavailability of the drug, that is, change the effectiveness of the drug. This means a patient could be at a higher or lower therapeutic level, causing increased seizure frequency or side effects, or both. The FDA must make sure that generics are truly bioequivalent to the name brand drug. Considering that the filler materials are cheap and readily available, this problem should be easily resolved, and presumably we could go about leading productive lives, instead of worrying if we’re going to have a seizure at work, or at home when nobody is around to help. If the FDA takes action, I will be more than happy to offer my thanks. Until then, the ball’s in your court FDA.
Glory
Generic drugs are definitely NOT always equal to the name brand drugs and it really irritates me because many pharmacists even argue these facts with me when they try to pitch the generic brands (the pharmacy makes more $$$ by selling you the generics in some instances).
I mean you can even read the active/inactive ingredients and find different substances being used in highly varying degrees in the generic brands vs brand name ones
Generics offers you something called “bioequivilence” which basically means that its effects and dosages are not significantly different from the original product.
It’s great for people who happen to tolerate the generics just fine as they are cost saving but based on how your body metabolizes different substances/drugs the substitute can more of an effect, less of one, or possibly even unexpected/different effects or side effects.
I believe what happens when you are switched without notice is that your insurance company contacts your doctor without your notification or consent with an order form of sorts of all the generic brands of medications/drugs you are taking asking if there are any he would approve for use as a substitute.
The really shady part is that they really kind of frame it like they are doing everyone this huge favor and I don’t believe that the form even specifies if or when they will just decide to switch the meds.
My doctors office was kind enough to forward a copy of the form to me and ask my permission on the issue. When I said I did not like generics the doctors office signed off that they wouldn’t approve any of them for use on me, but the insurance company STILL periodically calls me to make sure I’m aware of these “great” alternative medications that are much less expensive (for them).
Now any time I see anyone I bring this up and tell them not to approve any of these things or to at least check with me before doing anything like that and so far I haven’t had anything ever switched on me, but they do try.
R/C
I take Klonopin for sleep. Sometimes it worked and sometimes it didn’t work as well. Then I realized one generic brand worked a lot better than what I had been getting.
That was Caxaso (sp?) generic brand from WalGreens. They have since switched to a brand called Purepac which is pure junk. They changed to another brand. I asked for only part of the RX to be filled to try it out. Same thing, worthless. I transferred the RX to another pharmacy that had a brand called TIVA. However, because it’s a controlled substance, they won’t fill it until this worthless Purepac junk runs out.
It seems like WalGreens is very bad at screwing things up. The pharmacist said by law, it has to be such and such. But what he didn’t tell me was that the FDA has little control over the drug after it’s approved as to testing it for purity. We are being sold down the river with generic drugs.
I called five pharmacies and not one carried name-brand Klonopin, only a generic brand.
I’ll never accept a Purepac product again, even if I have to go without.
VLC
I had excellent seizure control with Keppra and then was made to switch to the generic – levetiracetam – and had a couple seizures, upset stomach and a general not feeling very well. Went to the doctor and had him give me a new prescription for Keppra only and everything is back to normal. The generic is NOT THE SAME as Keppra.
E.G.
I have adrenal insufficiency and must take hydrocortisone. My condition had been going downhill for months over the last year (middle of of 2008-2009). I literally felt like I was dying. It was obvious that my hormone levels were all over the place, but nobody could tell me why. Many days, I was so weak I couldn’t stand for long without pouring sweat. My electrolyte levels seemed to be all over the place. My heart rate frequently felt erratic, and I was having a severe salt craving. I started seeing an endocrinologist at a major medical center. Nobody could really help me. I was afraid my husband was going to come home to find my body on the floor one day.
Then, a surprising thing happened. My pharmacy was going to switch the hydrocortisone replacement I was taking with another brand. I have celiac disease and allergies to some inert ingredients, and it turned out the replacement I was going to get could not be guaranteed gluten free. So, I had to switch to the name brand version from the generic, which had been made by Glades pharmaceutical company. I wasn’t happy about this, since it was going to cost me a lot more. Since hydrocortisone is so common, it never occurred to me that my problems could’ve been caused by the brand of my medication.
I was shocked when, within half a day of starting the name brand Cortef, I felt like a new and different person. Everyone around me, even people I hardly know, have been telling me I look so much better. And I feel so much better! I have strength and more stamina now. I suddenly have been given my life back after many months of hell and thinking I was going to die.
The frightening thing is, between my husband (who has Parkinson’s) and me, we’ve had 3 serious problems with different generic medications between us. In my husband’s case, a critical dopamine replacement drug, his sinemet, suddenly stopped working. It was terrifying for both of us. Fortunately, he put it together that his pills had changed last time he’d gone to the pharmacy. It turned out that the original “generic” version he’d been taking had actually been the name brand version of the drug, but had been being marketed as a generic. He went back on the original version of the drug, only this time marketed under its name brand for many times the price. Almost immediately his Parkinson’s became controllable again. When on the generic, he might as well have been taking a sugar pill.
My other bad encounter with a generic came my first night of being switched from Ambien to Apotex’s version, when Ambien first went off patent. I felt as if I’d suddenly taken about 3 times my normal dose–it came on very strong and in a strangely unpleasant way–and then I began to swell and have an allergic reaction to it that was almost severe enough to require the ER. What followed was one of the worst nights of my life. I’m now back on Ambien and sleeping well, with no reactions.
VS
I was sick (nausea) for 2 months, some days were horrible others weren’t as bad but I was sick everyday. I made a trip to ER when I first got sick…they found nothing, had multiple tests done to try to figure out what was wrong, they found nothing. I just happened to get my Rx for clonazepam filled at another pharmacy and realized after a couple days that I wasn’t sick anymore but it was a long agonizing 2 months to figure this out.
I have always gotten the yellow clonazepam 0.5 mg but for whatever reason one of the pharmacies I use started giving me pink ones… at first I thought they had given me wrong Rx so I called them and they said no, they had pink ones, I verified this online just to be safe. I haven’t contacted the pharmacy yet but I don’t understand why something that’s supposed to be the same would make me so sick?????
Jennifer
FOLLOW-UP POST: Since my initial post on 3-24-09 re: generic Wellbutrin XL, I have had several tests to determine if there were any other medical causes for the ‘heart attack’-like symptoms I experienced using the Watson Labs generic. Blood tests, echocardiogram, CT scans, a 24hr Holter monitor test, cardio stress test…everything came back normal after switching back to the brand name Wellbutrin XL. In fact, I feel better than I have in years, and have even reduced dosages on (or eliminated completely!) other medications previously given to “supplement” the generic budeprion/bupropion.
I urge everyone here to file a report with the FDA detailing their experiences – and include as much medical documentation as you can to support your statements. You can file the FDA MedWatch form online or download it/mail it in with your supporting documents ( http://www.fda.gov/Safety/MedWatch/HowToReport/default.htm ) I can only hope the FDA gets its act together if/when they receive enough of these valid complaints.
My only problem now is getting my insurance company to accept coverage for the brand name; they raised the price from a $40 co-pay to $180 for 1-month supply. I don’t know how I will ever be able to afford this monthly expense. :~( I hope my insurance company will see reason & understand it’s less expensive for *everyone* to cover one brand name med. instead of paying for multiple generics, ER/doc visits and expensive medical tests all the time.
LC
The UK Department of Health is now considering the introduction of automatic generic substitution. This would mean the that pharmacists who receive a prescription specifying a brand-name medicine would be obliged to dispense a generic version of the medicine. This substitution could occur without the knowledge or consent of the prescribing clinician or the patient. The Department of Health have indicated that prescribers could opt out of substitution on each prescription to ensure a branded medicine is given, possibly by the use of a tick box.
We believe that before automatic generic substitution is considered, two key issues need to be addressed that could be applicable to a wide range of medicines: the potential impact of generic substitution upon patients’ medication taking and outcomes; and the potential impact of varying bioavailability upon outcomes and adverse events. As such we are working constructively with healthcare professionals, patient associations, and the pharmaceutical industry to open the debate to wider consultation and a more comprehensive analysis to ensure that the appropriate treatment decision is kept with the prescribing doctor or nurse with the safety and well-being of patients being of paramount importance.
We are working with a UK pharmaceutical company and ask if any of the members have information or stories to share about this topic – ideally from the UK but we would like to hear about the US experience too – please contact louise.crathorne@live.com
nina
Last Jan. I switched Lexapro to Wellbutrin. Was on Zoloft for years and had the sexual side effects. Lexapro didn’t work. Add wellbutrin xl 150. Upped to 300xl. At some point they switched me and I called my Psychiatrist who was on vacation complaining of worsening symptoms. My doc was on vacation and the lady handling the call informed me that I go back on the name brand. Yeah. Add Effexor. Again Yeah.
In the last 7 months, I have slid back to wanting to cry, not sleeping even with the Trazadone, loss of concentration, extreme forgetfulness, not wanting to do anything, waking up to needing snacks in the middle of the night-again excessive-like 1/2 a box of cookies and little appetite during the day and the worst trembling. My Psychiatrist was informed after several attempts with my regular doc to find the cause. He determined I have an acute nervous system problem originating in the spine.
We cut the Effexor in 1/2 to no avail. Guess where this is going?!!! Back after 8 weeks no change in the tremors, the rest of this soup got worse. So we upped the Effexor and decreased the wellbutrin to 150xl. So I mentioned the switch to generic that I had noticed recently, but can’t recall knowing exactly when the generic was substituted. I was relieved to hear him say his notes did not recall the switch to name-brand because of the earlier troubles and generic was fine.
How he is unaware of this huge issue shocks me. I had been relieved to think I had imagined the whole earlier switch incorrectly and that I because of all these issues made the scenario up in my head. I just read an article in the June 2009 Self magazine entitled Bad Bargain. It sent me to this website for this exact reason-budprion!!!!!!!!!!! Now I am mad.
The reporting of this on this website goes back to I believe 2007. How is this still possible? At what point does the FDA step up to the table and do something. This to me seems like a form of terrorism, by importing a drug from Isreal that is potentially deadly and at the very least incredibly harmful to so many. How effective a form of terrorism the use of generics from so many overseas companies that we as Americans are consuming without knowledge!
Imagine how many people could die with them altering the generic form with that intention. I am so pissed off I can’t hardly take this in. Obviously, I need to talk to my Psychiatrist, my pharmacist and anyone else taking a generic of something other than an antibiotic. Has anyone else experienced the nerve issues of shaking and trembling? Please take the time to add to this site. Knowledge is power.
PEOPLE’S PHARMACY RESPONSE: ALTHOUGH TEVA IS AN ISRAELI COMPANY, WE HAVE BEEN INFORMED THAT BUDEPRION IS ACTUALLY MADE IN THE U.S.A.
RP
RYB and others-
CVS gave me their new supply of sertraline (generic Zoloft) a week ago. This past week has been hell. Moody, tantrums, anxiety, general feeling of sadness and anxious. I actually threw something against the wall last night in a rage. And it came on in a few days, like a whoosh. I thought about my pills changing and it clicked. No more fooling around, I’m getting my doc to prescribe Zoloft brand name, my brain is too valuable to play games.
gkm
I was taking one brand of generic Tricor (Fenofibrate) and did not have any side affects. The pharmacy changed manufacturer. After one prescription I started to have muscle weakness. I continued to a second prescription and got worse. I have quit taking this prescription.
Susan D.
I take Topamax 100 mg in the morning and again in the evenings for cluster/migraine headaches. They recently came out with a generic form of the medication. Unaware that the pharmacist was replacing my Topamax with the generic form, all of a sudden, I started getting my headaches and I didn’t understand why. I basically had one continuous headache for almost two months, with about two breaks, and the intensity was that of a migraine.
It was agony. I begged my neurologist to write the script DAW and they refused citing the insurance companies are refusing because the cost between the two is over $500. They bumped me up to 400 mg a day and still no relief. I begged and begged citing nobody should have to live like this and that my insurance would fill it.
I discovered they, the doctor’s office/staff were the ones that were mostly opposed to it. My insurance company DID in fact fill it, no problem and not needing prior authorization. It was my neuro’s PA who was behind this all, and I wrote that doctor and never heard back from him….what a shame! It wasn’t necessary!
I feel if they are going to replace a medication with a generic, they should at least tell you. But, it did bode well for my fight that it “wasn’t all in my head” no pun intended.
JenG
Three years ago I had my first seizure and a neurologist put me on Trileptal. What a Godsend. The seizures stopped and I was able to return to my life. No breakthrough seizures for three years, until my pharmacy refilled my RX with a generic, Oxcarbazepine. I started having constant seizures and was so sick.
I called the pharmacist (I just had a hunch it was the “different” meds) and the pharmacist said, “no way. it isn’t the generic. everything is exactly the same except maybe a filler.” I found a lone brand name pill in an old pill case and within 20 minutes the seizures stopped.
I went to the doctor and he said he sees this all the time with seizure patients. He wrote me a new RX with DAW and thank goodness I am seizure free again.
I was always a proponent of generics. Why pay more when you don’t have to, right? I pay the extra $22 a month to get the brand name and not be sick. Shame on that pharmacist, I won’t use that pharmacy again. I feel liked I was lied to.
Gloria
Up until 2 years ago, I had taken Inderal for over 20 years for migraines. Once during that time I was given a generic from Mylan and I started having severe migraines again. Ever since that episode, my doctor prescribed the brand only and I had no problem. Well, 2 years ago Wyeth stopped making the brand.
Now I can only get generic. Fortunately the Pliva generic worked for me which I got through my insurance’s drug company. Now I no longer have drug insurance and I must purchase it myself locally. However, the generic I got from Walmart (Watson Pharm.-the pill has DAN on it) does not work and I’m having migraines again. Do pharmacies ever special order drugs for people if they request it? If not, any suggestions how I can get the Pliva generic?
Hmack1
Epileptics Beware:
I have had seizures for 25 plus years.
After being on Topamax for many years I have spent the last few years on the generic form of the med, Topiramate. My seizure control has been relatively successful throughout. At the end of April 2009, my ins. carrier and pharmacy changed me to ZyGenerics version of the Topiramate. I spent the next few weeks in and out of seizures. Did quite a lot of damage to my body. It took a few weeks to figure out what happened and I am now back on my original generic and am hoping for things to quite down quickly.
I have the typical medicine head we all so hate… another sign that the ZyGeneric version is a poor copy for the real thing.
I am to old to go through this, and I think it is a crime for any company to put me in a situation where I beat myself to a pulp by having seizure after seizure.
L.S. Jackson
I thought I was indeed losing my mind when it occurred to me to see if new information was available concerning the generic form of Wellbutrin XL online. When initially prescribed, I was taking Wellbutrin XL and was encouraged by my insurance carrier and pharmacist (BCBS encourages my ‘group’ to use WalMart) to switch to the generic due to cost. Depression symptoms had disappeared with Wellbutrin XL, but have returned two-fold, along with possible other symptoms since beginning the generic.
Tomorrow, Monday morning, I intend to switch back to Wellbutrin XL, although the cost is substantially higher, and will inform Peoples Pharmacy if there’s an improvement or not. I also realize around the time I began the generic, I also started to experience major intestinal problems resulting in a colonoscopy, MRI, ultrasound and endoscopy. Needless to say, I don’t think my insurance carrier saved much, (I know I didn’t), if it turns out that the generic is responsible for this problem.
What is additionally irritating are the doctors that encourage you to be proactive in your care, and then when you are they either dismiss you as a fanatic or hypchondriac, or just won’t listen. It’s difficult and frustrating trying to find a physician (even an internist) who’s willing to treat the entire physical body, rather than just one body part at a time.
Unfortunately, patients are labeled as “doctor shoppers” or worse. Basically a doctor wants the patient in and out of the office as quickly as possible for patient turn around and “production”. It’s a wonder that proper diagnosis is performed at all – and I work in the health field! It shames me at times.
Rick A.
My doctor prescribed zocor for my husbands high cholesterol and it worked fine. Then he was given the generic symvastatin when it came on the market. We live in Massachusetts where it is mandatory to do so. First his cholesterol levels went up and the doctor wanted to add a new pill to help instead of thinking it came from the switch.
Then for the next two years he experienced stomach problems and was scoped up one side and down the other with no answers for all the stomach problems he was having. Finally after doing research on the drug he learned the symptoms may be due to the simvastatin.
He stopped taking the medication and all the other meds the doctors put him on over the past two years to manage all his stomach problems. He has been 100% better
MMH
I had been taking Effexor for 5 years. At some point the Insurance company demanded I take the generic form of the medication. Initially, I received medication made by the Israeli company, Teva.
I did fine. Recently, the insurance company demanded I change to another company’s generic form, one made by the Indian company, Dr. Reddy’s labs. Almost immediately I started feeling symptoms consistent with withdrawal such as nausea, dizziness, electrical shock sensations, irritability and emotional instability.
When I complained to my doctor and pharmacist I was given a few of the old Teva brand pills. The problems stopped. The insurance company, Blue Cross of California, however, decided that not only did I not need the Teva medication, but they now decided that they would no longer allow me to take Effexor at all!
After several letters from my doctor, and a dozen phone calls with Blue Cross representatives who obviously struggled with English and were tied to a scripted denial, I was finally able to get the script filled but only with the Dr. Reddy’s completely ineffective version. To get the Teva version, I have to pay over $150 a month in addition to my deductible.
If I could get off the medication and still function, I certainly would. My problem is clinical depression which I’ve had since age 12. I’m now 50. The medication is the only thing that allows me to function normally.
I realize Insurance companies are not in the business of keeping their bargains but rather in making a profit at their customer’s expense but I don’t have to like it.
P.B.
I have been a pain management patient for years, with one of the drugs I take being Hydrocodone APAP. I’ve never paid attention to generic brands, as they’ve always seemed to work the same. Recently, however, my local pharmacy started using Mallinckrodt brand, and there is definitely a dramatic difference. They are so ineffective, I’ve had to take the maximum dosage every day and still have a great deal of unrelieved pain.
Not to mention the drowsiness and just a general feeling of not being well. It took me a while to realize it only happened when I took this brand, and when I mentioned it to my doctor he said he had heard the same thing from other patients and advised me to call around to different pharmacies before filling my prescription in the future. The problem is, this brand is very cheap, and so more and more pharmacies are starting to use it.
I’ve found online forums where people have the same complaint as I do. In my opinion this drug manufacturer should be forced to pull these off the shelves, there’s no way they are equivalent to the brand name or, for that matter, any other generic brand!
jg
I was put on hydroxychloroquine for Lupus and had a severe allergic reaction. I had sores going down my throat then eventually covered my mouth and tongue. My lips and tongue swelled. Finally a rash covered my entire body. I had blisters on both my feet and hands. It took a week before they figured out what was causing my symptoms.
lh
I am having a big issue with my setraline prescription. I have been taking the Teva 100 mg tabs. They have worked great. About 3 weeks ago CVS gave me a refill. The pills didn’t look the same. I called and was told it was greenstone setraline. I didn’t think anything of it.
About a week ago, I started feeling lightheaded with nausea. I also started noticing that I have become more irritable and my obsessive worrying has started to come back. Then i thought about the change in manufacturers. CVS had a few of the teva pills left and gave them to me until he would be able to order the teva on special order.
The nausea and dizziness was starting to go away after taking the teva for a couple of days. Today I went to pick up the special order teva setraline and was told that he found out it was discontinued. I found another pharmacy that had enough of the teva to fill one more prescription but then they also said they are getting the greenstone from now on. I don’t know what I am going to do.
I can’t take the greenstone and I called today and my plan will charge me 107.00 for a 30 day supply of the brand name zoloft. Does anyone know if teva is truly being discontinued or if it can be ordered by anyone else? Also, has anyone experienced the same issues with the greenstone setraline?
RYB
Yes, I have experienced problems with the generic form of Norvasc. My doctor prescribed the brand name but my insurance did not accept the DAW. The generic form caused me to break out in hives. I stopped taking it for a year & my blood pressure shot up to 160/110…my new doctor was appalled. I now have to pay the full price for the formulary version even though the generic causes an adverse reaction. No difference my foot! We won’t even discuss the differences between generic and name brand Paxil (an antidepressant.
K
My ob-gyn prescribed me Ortho Tri-Cyclen, which my pharmacy filled with TriNessa. My eyes became red and irritated and would not tolerate my wearing contact lenses. I thought it was an eye infection, until my eye doctor told me it was irritation due to wearing contacts too often and didn’t believe me that I didn’t sleep in my contacts or do things that irritated my eyes. I finally figured out it was the TriNessa, and my doctor switched me to the name brand of Ortho Tri-Cyclen. I haven’t had a problem since.
Recently, I also had a bad reaction to Sotret (isotretinoin) and had severe joint pain. I wonder if I had taken the name brand (Accutane) if I wouldn’t have had the problem, but I’m afraid to try.
Doug
I was started on lisinopril 1.5 months ago for high blood pressure. The 1st generic prescription seemed to work well. I checked my BP daily and the pressure steadily declined over the 1st month. I then refilled the prescription. The pharmacy filled the RX with a different companies generic. My BP has gone back up. I continue taking the medication, but this brand doesn’t seem to work as effectively as the other. What can/should a consumer do if they don’t think one brand of med works as well as another?
Ken
I have epilepsy, I was forced to take generics for two different medications (not at the same time).
A few days later I was having seizures. One of which dislocated my shoulder. In addition I started to get migraines.
I could have died if this happened while I was driving, on a ladder, going down the stairs etc.
It cost me more but I managed to get the brand name back.
Now my COBRA is expiring and looking for a new insurance company. The few that will take me won’t pay for any brand names when generics are available. Here we go again…
PH
My husband took Mevacor even before FDA approved it because he was part of a trial group. Since it was compatible with very large doses of Niacin, he did very well and his HDL has been in the 90’s while his LDL really dropped. Then pharmacists who are encouraged to do that switched him to the generic and he had trouble tolerating the Niacin even in small doses. My researched showed that statins often are incompatible with large doses of Niacin. Anyway, he switched back to Mevacor and he is doing very well again.
SM
My pharmacy switched my generic for paxil (paroxetine), from one made by aurobinod, which worked fine and I was doing well on, to one made by Mylan. It did not work at all and caused serious problems for me before I figured it out. Luckily the pharmacist was able to find the old generic for me and within a few days I was feeling better.
I am very concerned that I won’t have access to a drug that actually works in the future. My insurance charges an extra $50 a month for the non-generic.
Ereza
Recently Caraco’s generic clonazepam was recalled. I was switched to Purepac. I might as well have taken cookies: no effect at all on my GAD. Two weeks of hell, and now another couple of weeks while I try to acclimate to Klonopin, which doesn’t feel as strong as the Caraco did.
This is an *anxiety disorder* I’m working on, drug companies. I need this like a hen needs a flag.
Kambi M.
I have had bad reactions and side affects to Sandoz Metoprolol (Toprol XL), resulting in several ER visits. I recently found out the FDA recalled these late 2008. Looking to be involved in a class-action lawsuit to pay my resulting medical bills.
Steve
two suggestions for Barb K who posted on May 27th: if Watson was not one of the makers of the generics that made you nauseous, see if you can find a pharmacy that carries that brand of generic and try it; I have found it to be fine. Second suggestion: recently, I got a 90 day supply of TEVA brand generic by mistake; long story short, pharmacy would not take it back and insurance company does not want to know from me for 90 days; so I have been using them and, not so hot at first, but then, following a suggestion, even tho “not supposed to,” I split them and took half of the 300 mg twice per day; so far, seem to feel pretty good. Just a thought; perhaps you could try it.
LD
I went on a generic zoloft and do not feel the same. I am moody and feel dizzy. I am going to go back to the brand name of Zoloft. This is an issue that needs to be addressed.
rs
I lost thyroid function due to radiation treatments for cancer. I went on 0.25 mg of generic thyroid replacement which I did well on for 5 full years.In 2002 my pharmacy told me the company making my generic was no longer making it and due to reformulation of these drugs the pharmacy would now be carrying my generic from another company.
I was assured the drug was exactly the same and there would be no difference in how it worked. Within 2 weeks of taking the new generic formulation, I felt tired, had stomach pain, had no energy, gained weight despite loss of appetite, and my hair started falling out again. Both my doctor and the pharmacy adamantly declared these new appearing symptoms had nothing to do with the change in generic.
I suffered with these side effects which I did not have for the 5 previous years for nearly 18 months. I saw endocrinologists at world famous hospitals in Boston. Everyone I saw was dismissive and refused to take any of my newly acquired side effects seriously, simply insisting none of what I was going through was related to the change in generic.
I went from taking 0.25mg per day to over 100mcg and it was like I was taking nothing. I continued to have no energy, gain weight, have hair loss and stomach cramps after dosing.
In desperation, I contacted Abbott, the manufacturer of the brand name Synthroid. They were very helpful and when I compared the inactive ingredients in the generic I found out that cellulose was in the generic substitute. I had a preexisting intestinal disorder that the cellulose was aggravating. I also switched to a doctor who was wiling to listen to what my side effects were without ignoring me or inferring I was somehow faking complaints that were not possible.
He switched me back to Synthroid brand name no substitutions. Although I did not expect any improvement, shortly after all the side effects I had went away and I have been fine for the last 4 years. When I saw the study in the news on May 28, 2009, investigating reports of people having side effects after switching to generics, I felt vindicated that this issue is getting attention as a lot of providers did not believe me or take me seriously.
The medical establishment becomes entrenched in one opinion in this case generic is the same and is frequently unwilling to look past what they believe sometimes to the detriment of the patients. This happened to me and had I allowed myself to be deterred by non-receptivity and continuing frustration and had not pursued a solution to my side effects I am convinced I still would be suffering.
It is an inaccurate statement to state all generics at all levels on all drugs are going to have the same effectiveness in all patients yet there are doctors out there that still stand by this opinion.
PEOPLE’S PHARMACY RESPONSE: ALTHOUGH GENERIC LEVOTHYROXINE IS SUPPOSED TO BE BIOEQUIVALENT, MANY ENDOCRINOLOGISTS SUGGEST THAT PATIENTS STICK WITH JUST ONE GENERIC MANUFACTURER. OTHERWISE THE DOSE MAY NEED ADJUSTING EACH TIME A DIFFERENT GENERIC MAKER’S FORMULATION IS USED.
YR
I have used Zoloft for 8 years. When the pharmacy substituted the generic version, my old symptoms of anxiety, anger and depression returned. This happened within a few days. I went back and paid for the considerably more expensive name brand, and I’m doing much better. The pharmacist knew what I was talking about.
Carly B.
I have been on the medication Dilantin due to being diagnosed with epilepsy several years ago & this name brand drug is the only one that has seemed to help me. I have also tried the generic version…Phenytoin for much cheaper & it is NOT the same as brand name Dilantin & does not hold off or stop any seizures for me but only makes many more come, these two medications are not the same.
I don’t know how these drug companies/manufacturers can just go around saying that all drugs are the same & that they do exactly the same thing when this is not true & generics just make things worse for some people & the brand name drugs are the only medications that they can have & that help their symptoms. This is also true of a couple of other medications that I also take.
I don’t think that it is right or fair for companies to be going around saying these things about these generic medications when in fact it is not true. All medications ARE NOT created equal.
MD
SERIOUS WARNING ABOUT Budeprion (generic Wellbutrin):
I read an article online that led me to this site- and all that I can say is that there is a serious danger in taking this generic- and echo all the sentiments listed by the 100s of people before me regarding this drug. Not only did it make me more depressed, prone to instant crying, and tremendous irritability and night sweats, I actually attempted to take my own life after being on this drug for 6 months.
I have been on depression medication for years, and was never suicidal or experienced the above mentioned symptoms or behaviors in 12 years of treatment. This is a very dangerous drug, and should not be taken by anyone, let alone someone who experiences depression. Insist on the brand name, or ask your doctor to prescribe another brand name that does not have this sort of life-threatening effect.
PRM
Oh My Goodness-now I know I’m not crazy. Generics for Wellbutrin and Ambien: My doctor had prescribed Wellbutrin to combat a terrible depression I couldn’t shake on my own after my mother died and my husband lost his job. It really seemed to help. After a short time the pharmacy switched me to Bupropion HCL XL 300 saying it was cutting costs. I didn’t question it; I’ve never had issues with generics. However, after my 2nd time refilling it, something wasn’t right.
I started feeling depressed, more fatigued, etc. I should have contacted my doctor but didn’t. I tapered off the drug for a week and then stopped taking it altogether and realized I felt better. But it was short lived. I didn’t look into trying something else. Ironically, I’ve just made an appointment with my doctor for severe weight gain, muscle pain and extreme fatigue. My depression returned, even worse, so I thought perhaps I needed to ask for Wellbutrin short term again.
But I think it’s the Zolpidem Tartrate generic Ambien. I was taking the real Ambien 2-3X a week to help combat my husbands terrible snoring. I thought Ambien was a dream drug – gentle, no side effects, I felt rested in the morning, and I was careful not to take it on a daily basis even though I know many people who do without problem. Again, the pharmacy switched me to the generic Zolpidem Tartrate.
I think this drug could be causing my problems. It’s been over a year and I’m putting two and two together. Even after a a “sound” sleep I don’t feel rested in the morning but sluggish. I started taking it a short time after stopping the Bupropion. Now I’m afraid to take it until I find out more. And 8 months ago I was rushed to the ER with symptoms of a stroke and tests couldn’t find anything. Coincidence?
Are the pharmaceutical companies slowly killing us?
mary
Years ago was taking generic amytriptyline. Had to stop due to severe esophagitis. Brand name was fine. Have had trouble with some other generics not being as effective, particularly pain killers.
MP
I had been taking Zestril to control my high blood pressure with good results for many years. The pharmacy switched me to the generic lisonpril and within a week my blood pressure was higher than it had been WITHOUT medication. My doctor then wrote my prescription to be filled with brand name only. Everything was fine as long as my Blue Cross was Blue Cross of Rhode Island. A year ago, I changed jobs and my Insurance was Blue Cross of Massachusetts.
This insurance company refuses to pay for the name brand even though my doctor writes the prescription as brand name necessary. Based on my previous experience with the generic, I now am forced to pay out of pocket for the full cost of my prescription. One should not be forced to risk their health or incur large out of pocket expenses in addition to the very high cost of the health insurance, which in this case provides my no benefit what so ever.
Ira K.
My Medicare Plan D company insisted they would only fill a brand name drug with a generic. The drug I have taken for over 6 years is Coreg, for blood pressure. The generic they substituted in May this year was carvedilol, made by Dr. Reddy’s LA…after 7 days of taking this drug I did not feel well and during a routine exam my GP commented on my blood pressure being elevated very high, and upon further examination found I also had arrythmia.
He did a quick EKG and put me on a heart monitor for 24 hours. I also got an emergency prescription for the brand drug and started taking that day…by the next day my blood pressure was back to almost normal and the arrythmia was gone…and to this day, almost 2 weeks later the insurance company, RXAmerica is still fighting to not pay for this drug. I paid 100% cost of this drug and since I cannot change Plan D companies until the end of the year, I am stuck with a very expensive drug.
Rickie
I switched to generic Norvasc 5mg and after taking it for 2 – 3 weeks I was having dizzy spells and my blood pressure went crazy. I went back to the name brand and all is okay now.
Barb K
As most I have been on wellbutin xl for years and was put on the generic 2 separate times. Both times nervous and nauseous. Well now losing my prescription ins. I am told it will cost me $200.00 a month. We also have a $10,000.00 deductible. Who could afford this? not me. now what?
Lori
I have had multiple problems with generic drugs (sertraline, bupropion, just to name two) over the years and firmly believe that generics are absolutely NOT the same as brand.
The statement by Kathleen Jaeger very conveniently leaves out the fact that the inactive ingredients are not the same. Generics are not allowed to use the exact formula as brand names and so they must suspend the active ingredients in another way. Who knows what inactive ingredients they use, how they differ, and what effect this has on the effectiveness of the actual active ingredient.
I also agree that FDA oversight on generics is lax and this is a major problem.
I am wondering if/when these generic companies won’t be sued for some of the damaging effects that people suffer?
Recently diagnosed with Celiac Disease, I now have to have mostly brand name medications that are known to be gluten free. That has made all the difference. Otherwise, I would be stuck with generics and living with ill health and intolerable side effects.
One tip that I can share is to research the generics before you accept them. Sometimes the pharmaceutical company that makes the brand also makes a generic that is actually the same. Find out who manufacturers the generic by asking your pharmacist which generic brand they stock.
For example, I was prescribed Ambien at one time which worked great and when I was switched to a generic it worked equally as well. The next time I used it I was given a generic and it did not work at all! I realized that the manufactures were not the same. The makers of Ambien had also made a generic version of zolipidem identical to it’s name brand. When they discontinued making the generic, another generic was substituted and the effect was completely different.
One slight difference in chemical compounds changed everything. The statement made by Kathleen Jaeger is true to an extent… but it leaves out other important information, information that could be critical.
Best-
Nancy N
I was on glumetza for diabetes for about a year and doing great. Had to switch to generic Metformin because of insurance. After switching I became nauseated. I have since switched back to glumetza but I have to pay the full price.
LA
I had been taking Prozac 40mg and it’s generic (fluoxetine) for 14 years. My insurance required me to get it through Medco mail order, stating that they would no longer cover me getting my Rx at the local pharmacy. I tried the Medco generic, which was manufactured by Ivax. Within a weeks’ time, I became dizzy, disoriented, forgetful and deeply depressed. I became overwhelmed with even the smallest task, like dressing myself.
As the weeks wore on, I wondered what it would be like if I jumped in front of a train or bus. THIS WAS NOT ME – even at my most deeply depressed, before therapy and medication. I couldn’t remember people’s names. What I had for lunch and hour before, or if I had even eaten. I didn’t recognize my kids sometimes. I gained a lot of weight very quickly. My balance was off. Somehow, I knew I knew better, and went back to my Rite Aid meds, which were manufactured by Teva. I don’t know how I connected the two, but I did, and also made an appt. to talk to my doctor.
A week later, I was back and better than ever. I felt like I had woken up after a long sleep. I couldn’t believe it. I also couldn’t believe that I now has to fight with my insurance company, who was going to charge me $800 a month for brand-specific Prozac. We finally settled on my doctor writing a script for Teva-manufactured specific generic. Whew. I am paying more than I would at the Rite-Aid, but at least I’m not starting again from scratch, or having to change what’s worked for such a long time. I thought I was losing my mind, because I was going from generic to generic. Even though my Doctor told me it happens, she still said it was somewhat unusual. Now I find out it’s not.
I really want to spread the word to people to pay attention to their meds, and to fight with your insurance company if you have to. I really felt my life was at stake and all they cared about was saving a few $$$ for the insurance company. What a bunch of morons.
S. Pool
Hello! After a horrible experience over this past month with my medication Hydrocodone, I decided to search this out. I’m glad I found this site! Now I know I’m not crazy. I have been taking Hydrocodone/APAP for almost a year. I told my doctor that my medication was as though I had taken nothing at all, not even working anymore. He told me to switch back to Brand name Norco. I couldn’t afford the brand name, but my prescription ended up in another pharmacy to get filled because of the holiday. (wal-mart had filled it the previous 3 months, and I had it sent to Brookshires to get filled) I went to pick up the generic RX at Brookshires, and after taking just 2 of them–I felt better. I don’t know the difference, other than the previous pills were white from a “Mallk Chem” at Walmart, and the Brookshires brand was yellow and made by “Watson”. The Watson brand definitely worked better than the other 100%. So even with Generics, there is a difference in the brands. I don’t understand why they don’t all have the same restrictions–quality control? This is just ridiculous. Most of us are already struggling to pay even with Insurance, and to think we are getting nothing more than a sugar pill is disgusting. Please fix this problem!!!
Thanks for letting me speak my mind about this today also…….
Mrs. Pool
V. Wilson
I was diagnosed with hypothyrodism 2 years ago after being on a 6 month regimen of Pegasys/coPegisys for treatment of Hep C. Since I have no insurance, my primary health care is done by the Indian Health Care Resource Center, through my tribal affiliation. My lab showed that my numbers were low and my M.D. prescribed Levothyyroxine 100mcg.
All meds through this clinic are generic. After lab checks every 6 months I was told that while on the medication my thyroid levels were fine. Then, I do have a private physician that I pay out of pocket for various illnesses and for my pain medication, since the tribal health care will not prescribe narcotics on a continual basis AT ALL. I have chronic pain issues osteoarthritis, degenerative disc disease and joint degeneration.
When I went in to see him I asked if he would run lab (albeit expensive) because I just didn’t feel right. My thyroid level was as if I was taking nothing at all. So he prescribed an increased dose of 125 mcg. and the pills are manufactured by Mylan. Since then, I can tell a difference, but know that I’m taking another generic of Synthroid.
After reading articles on generics I am now leery of all my meds. My generic diazapam cost $21 as opposed to name brand at $380! My generic hydrocodone is $57 as opposed to $360 for name brand Vicoden! How is a person supposed to pay for name brand medications unless they are wealthy? If insurance carriers won’t pay for name brand and Medicaid won’t pay for name brand, then people like me are stuck with lesser quality and perhaps useless medications! It is a crime.
Bunkybear
I was on welbutrin and Zoloft and got switched to generics.
shortly after I couldn’t control the crying for no reason, anxiety attacks, and suicide thoughts. Along with physical side effects as very bad smelling gas from the generic welbutrin.
ALSO the generic of ambian does nothing for my inability to sleep.
Now that I have put 2 and 2 together I have made an appointment with my doctor to review and request name brand only.
PS. I was getting different shapes and colors of sertaline every month and was told that it was ok it was all the same. It’s not ok.
ck
Risperdone was substituted for my adult son’s Risperdal (doctor wrote for Risperdal) and over the last month there has been a dramatic change in his symptoms. As he has been stable on Risperdal for 10 years I feel the generic must be at fault.
st
pharmacy filled by adderall rx with core pharma instead of barr. HORRIBLE!!!! Headaches, fatigue, depression and can’t exchange for barr, have to live like this for 3 more weeks.
Julia L.
My generic Prozac that I bought from Walmart smells foul. Anyone know what this is? Almost like a formaldehyde smell.
D. Jurgen
I was also switched from Wellbutrin XL to the generic Budeprion XL 300 MG from TEVA, and immediately my depression and anxiety worsened. Fortunately my psychiatrist understood my concerns and switched me back, and after reading some of your stories I am very glad she did!
In my opinion the FDA MUST make sure that each generic drug is EXACTLY the same, down to the last chemical, as the name brand formula. Otherwise, what’s the point if you’re not getting the same drug????
Megan
I took Yasmin for a few years without any problems and was recently switched to Ocella, the generic form. My skin started breaking out, I had breast tenderness, and I experienced weight gain. I also noticed variations in my mood. When talking to my friends, most of whom had also been switched to Ocella, I am not alone. One friend had breakthrough bleeding out of nowhere after taking Ocella regularly for 5 months.
Another had dramatic mood swings. These symptoms don’t seem too dramatic, but they’re definitely enough for us to all switch back to Yasmin. I had to fight with my insurance company to allow them to accept my doctor’s prescription for “no substitutions or generics.” Now I pay $40 per month, versus $3 per month with Ocella, but the benefits are more than worth it.
Furthermore, my naturopath used muscle testing, which is an alternative therapy that can be used to “test” the body’s response to medications, to compare Ocella to Yasmin. My body did not respond well at all to Ocella, while it only had a minor negative response to Yasmin. While this technique may not have ample research behind it (but if done correctly can be very effective, at least in my experience), it may be another indication that something is amiss.
I wish the FDA would pay more attention to generic medications before they are released to the public. It is both unsafe and immoral to wait until hundreds or thousands of negative response cases emerge to second guess these questionable pharmaceutical companies and practices.
Raven R.
A few months ago, I was diagnosed with Hyperthyroidism. After discussing this with an Endocrinologist, a treatment plan was determined. After radiation therapy, and to my chagrin, I must take a thyroid supplement for the remainder of my life. Not a serious issue.
However, what I found out WAS an issue! For several months after the therapy, I took generic thyroid. I felt tired all the time and lethargic. I gained weight. My hair started falling out. I had some other symptoms like very itchy dry skin and a “foggy” memory. I discussed these symptoms with my Doctor. She said she would try the Non-generic medication. The difference was like NIGHT and DAY! I felt more energetic and “in the moment!” She had some “samples” and gave me some of those in-between “fill-ups.” My thyroid medication is expensive BUT well worth it!
She also told me that it is well-known in the Medical community that generic Thyroid medicine is not of consistent quality.
SH
Generic Barr Dexedrine 5mg tablets are ineffective and result in adverse reactions. I think it has something to do with the fillers used. GlaxoSmithKline took off the market the brandname Dexedrine 5mg tablets in 2006. Several other drug companies have since quit offering Generic Dexedrine 5mg tablets.
The best was Mallinckrodt followed by ETHEX. It was stated that Mallinckrodt closely followed GSK formula. I tried GSK’s dexedrine spansules and they also give me an adverse reaction. Another choice would be Dextrostat, but now Shire has taken this drug off the market. This drug worked similar to brandname Dexedrine 5mg tablets.
The irony is that GSK Canada still offers brand name Dexedrine 5mg tablets manufactured in Kentucky. The same site that manufactured brandname Dexedrine 5mg tablets for GSK US. If brandname Dexedrine 5mg tablets are ok for Canada why did GSK US quit offering these for US patients? I have been trying to get a Canadian doctor to work with my US doctor and myself in order to fill a prescription for Dexedrine 5mg tablets in Canada. No luck so far.
I am not the only one who has indicated the ineffectiveness of Barr generic Dexedrine 5mg tablets. Go to any ADHD web site and read the posts on Dexedrine.
Jerod P.
When switched from GSK’s brand Lamictal to Teva’s generic lamotrigine I had no problems at all. When my pharmacist’s distributor gave them Dr. Reddy’s lamotrigine I lost seizure control. I’m not their only customer to have problems with Dr. Reddy’s, and they now put aside Teva’s lamotrigine for me and other customers who have reported problems.
I was also recently switched to generic topiramate. It is inconsistent. It feels as if I’ve taken too much some days, too little others and it’s Goldilocks just right on too few days. So far everyone taking generic topiramate at my pharmacy has the same problem.
Reports I’m getting at my website match my experiences. The problems with generic topiramate happen regardless of the manufacturer and nobody likes Dr. Reddy’s lamotrigine.
AB
Had some problems with the generic Prozac. It worked fairly well (but not as well as I would like) at controlling the depression, but I had massive, massive side effects like muscle twitches that were almost seizures, extreme mood swings, etc. It was horrible for about 4 months. I thought it was just me and nothing would help me, but after much online reading, I found that it might be a problem with the generic. I’ve now been on the name brand Prozac for about 2 weeks and already my muscle spasms have decreased SIGNIFICANTLY and my mood is slowly lifting.
MFB
I was taking Keppra as a precaution after successful brain surgery. I took it for eight months with no problems that you wouldn’t expect after major brain surgery. Then I had one episode that was a possible partial seizure.
I continued to take the Keppra and felt better and better with lots of energy. After four months of improving I was switched to the generic “levetiracetam”. I didn’t like the way I felt-tired, unfocused and worried. I also felt very cold and had an unusually low temperature.
My doctor had blood work done and everything was normal.Then I started having more of those episodes which exhibited by motor imbalance preceded by a feeling of doom and followed by headache and extreme nausea and vomitting.
I’m back on the brandname Keppra and we’ll see. Hopefully all will be well. I don’t know whether my problems were the fault of the generic but I suspected they might be, and when I read something similar in your column I thought I should add my experience.
Steve
This is in response to KP’s post of May 12th. I, too, have had good success with Watson’s generic version of Wellbutrin XL. I must say that I think your idea of taking the 150 mg twice a day instead of the 300 mg strength once a day is an excellent one. Again, as has been said before, if posters would indicate the manufacturer of the generics they are commenting on, whether good or bad, we can all learn which are the better generic manufacturers.
DB
My husband has been on depakote and topamax for seizures. He has been seizure free for 8yrs. Now we find out that his insurance company is wanting him on the generics of these.
His doctor has specified that he does not want generic. I was not aware of the generic until I went to the pharmacy to pick up his meds. We have gone back and force with the pharmacy and insurance company. I have contacted his Dr. to see what can be done. When he started taking the generic Topamax he was having some strange feelings.
I do not want my husband to go through what he went through so many years. (seizures) Something has to be done. Why should he suffer or get sick again?
KP
I, too, suffered a full return of depression symptoms after my insurance required a generic be substituted for the 300 mg Wellbutrin XL I had been taking for months. I gave the generic numerous attempts, trying it again when quarterly refills came due, only to have depression symptoms return as they always did on the generic. Finally, my physician began writing the prescription for brand-necessary, but that eventually became too cost-prohibitive, and those costs continue to rise, so I know the brand will never again be an option for me.
What has worked for me for about 3 months now has been a switch to a different company’s generic. The large chain pharmacies in my area all carry Teva generics. It was Teva’s generic that I received in place of Wellbutrin XL 300 mg. I shopped around and found a smaller pharmacy that carries other generic manufacturers. My last Wellbutrin prescription was filled with the generic from Anchem; my current prescription is from Watson. I highly recommend patients try this route.
Additionally, in my research I found strong indications that the time-release of the generics is not the same in the 300 mg generics as it is in the brand. All the generic formulas carry the XL label, despite the brand having three different time-release formulas. My doctor re-wrote my 300 mg prescription for 150 mg twice a day, and taking the generic 150’s every 12 hours, along with the change in generic manufacturers, has given me much better relief than my first experiences with the generics.
I still do not believe I have 100% relief of depression symptoms like I had on brand-name Wellbutrin, but it’s pretty close. So I strongly recommend other sufferers to abandon once-a-day dosing when using generics and find the right milligram and dosing frequency that works best.
CTH
For years I was taking Synthroid and had had no problems whatsoever until my insurance company decided to switch this medication to the generic Levothyroxine because it was cheaper. At first everything seemed fine and the numbers were good. Then I began to have night sweats, moodiness, restlessness, dizziness. I just didn’t feel good and couldn’t figure out what was happening. I blamed it on menopause.
Then one day while I was driving and was very calm and all of a sudden, my teeth started to hurt, my chest felt like it was expanding. I know it was like a mini heart attack, and mind you it wasn’t heartburn because I know what that feels like. It lasted probably seconds but it scared me so bad.
I did go to the emergency room and had all the tests done as well as a stress test and everything was normal. But the more I thought about why this happened, I decided to call my mail-in pharmacy and spoke to the pharmacist about my episode and I asked her if one of my prescriptions might of been the cause and sure enough, I was told to stop taking Levothyroxine right away and that she would send me Synthroid right away and that she didn’t need a doctors note to make the change.
Obviously this wasn’t the first time it happened. How many people have to go through this and how many have to die before this generic drug gets taken off the market. If the FDA doesn’t do anything, what’s the point of have them at all?
Loreen Jones
When my pharmacy closed, the new pharmacist assured me that the generic for Lotrel by Teva was being used successfully by his customers without any problem. The new pharmacy did not keep stock of Lotrel and had to order it in. I agreed to try the generic due to the much lower price.
I experienced non-stop headaches, nausea, trembling, and erratic, high blood pressure for a month until I switched back to regular Lotrel. I do not believe that the generic is at all equivalent to brand Lotrel and think it is quite unfair that I can only have a lower price for a totally inferior product.
Lawrence C.
Add me to the list of patients who had trouble with Teva’s Budeprion. Early in 2007 my Welbutrin XL 300mg prescription was switched to the Teva equivalent. I had no reason to believe that there would be a problem; I’m generally a fan of generic drugs. However, two or three months later I began to experience fatigue and strong feelings of despair and depression. It eventually occurred to me that the problems might be related to the switch to the generic drug, so I contacted my practitioner, who wrote the appropriate prescription. Within three or four weeks of resuming the non-generic medication the problems vanished.
J. Dansicker
After taking Cipro, I experienced tendonitis in my right ankle. This is something to beware of especially if you are 60 or older. It seems that docs don’t tell you about this particular side effect!
Mk
I have been taking oxycodone for pain for the last few years after a severe automobile accident. I started taking a generic brand made by Mallinckrodt and had adequate pain relief. Then my pharmacy changed to a different generic manufacturer named Qualitest, and my pain level increased dramatically. So, I called a couple of pharmacies to find one that used the Mallinckrodt brand. I did, and again have adequate pain relief.
Pj
I currently take two hundred milligrams of Topamax daily for migraines. I was switched to the generic version and was told to just try it and hang in there by the pharmacist. The first day was horrible. It was as if I hadn’t even taken my normal dose. I felt like I’d been hit by a truck, anxious, teary, terrible flu-like symptoms. As if I’d missed a dose. Luckily I still have some of my regular real Topamax left so I took some and within hours I’m feeling much better. So I’m calling my Dr. tomorrow and begging for brand name only.
Sharon
I first started taking trileptal for treatment resistant depression in August 2007. After several months, my pdoc gave me a three month mail in rx. I received the generic oxcarbazepin 150mg from my pharmacy because it had just received FDA approval. Within 2 weeks, I had sunk into the depression again. My pdoc recognized that the generic wasn’t working and has required the brand name ever since.
I’ve increased from 150 mg to 1200 mg over time and just recently made the mistake of not verifying that the rx had brand name specified on it. Again the pharmacy sent me the generic Oxcarbazepine 300 – this one manufactured by apotex- The first one had no manufacturer on it. Even though I mixed this with the brand at first, I still found the same effect – depression, anxiety and general lack of coping skills which progressively got worse as I continued the generic.
Last week,we contacted the pharmacy and they agreed to do a one time override and approved a 30 day brand (at a cost to me of $120)rx. Today I had my Dr. send them a new 90 day and they still tried to fill it with the generic because there’s some elusive box on their online form that none of us could find.
She put it in the physician notes to fill only with brand and they still said the checked box overrided the physician’s notes. She said that 100% of the medication is not delivered in all of the generic medicine and it was not an uncommon problem. My bipolar son is on wellbutrin generic and I wonder how much better he might do if he were still on the brand.
mfs
I was prescribed Azithromycin (generic of Zithromax) for bronchitis and had to go to emergency room as my doctor believed I had a mini-stroke.
My right calf felt like a brick when I woke up 3 hours after taking the first double dosage. I was dazed and confused and fell to my knees and did not know what I was doing. I tried to climb the wall to get up. 20 minutes later I suffered 3 bouts of diarrhea. The ER took a chest x-ray, ekg, cat-scan and did bloodwork. For two days after that while waiting for medicine to leave my body, I had diarrhea.
Steve
I second what MKT said on April 24, 2009. It would be very helpful when discussing a generic if the specific manufacturer of that generic were named. That way we can all get an idea of the “good” generic manufacturers and the “not-so-good.”
RR
I have been taking Gabapentin 300 mg 3 times a day for about 3 years for nerve pain. The pain had been very severe until I started taking this generic drug. If I missed 1 dose for a couple of days I started having pain again. This past week when I picked up my prescription it looked different. It was smaller capsule & yellow instead of deep red orange. I called the drug store & they said they had changed companies. The pain is back just like I was not taking anything at all. This just makes me wonder if “some” generics are not as good as others???
RRB
I started 150xl budeprion and read all the comments about it being worse, FDA approval, more side effects etc. I actually felt high the first week and then I just felt so much better; I didn’t realize how depressed I was. Then my doctor and I agreed to increase to 300xl so I took two of the 150xl budeprion in the morning. I felt a little high but much better so I told her to go ahead with writing for 300xl. I got my rx and the pharmacy gave my 300xl buproprion (BUPR) not (BUD). I noticed I was anxious and my heart was racing. I started feeling depressed again and having hopeless thoughts.
Now I am waiting for the pharmacy to fill the budeproprion by teva that it seems everyone had such a hard time with. Has anyone else had a better experience on the TEVA BUDEPRION or am I just making it up in my head? I’m scared to take the Watson buproprion while I’m waiting for the teva.
Mark S.
I recently was given Budeprion XL 300 from Teva Pharma. from my mail order pharmacy and noticed a difference in the way I felt within 2 days. I started getting headaches, restlessness, tired feeling all the time, unable to focus, irritable and generally feeling out of body. I had been taking Bupropion XL300 from Anchen Pharma. for some time after originally taking Wellbutrin XL300, both with no problems. So I have had good experience with both name brand and generic products, however, the Budeprion XL 300 is definately not working well for me. I complained to my pharmacy and requested a replacement at no charge and they refused telling me that per the US FDA this product is a suitable replacement for Wellbutrin XL 300. I tried to tell them as a patient, it is not a suitable replacement and it does not work well at all. They told be “too bad”. So now I am going to ask my doctor to only prescribe the original Wellbutrin XL 300 brand and I’ll have to pay extra just to be sure I feel ok.
KJG
Imitrex generic does not work. Tried it three times and it does not get rid of the headache at all.
MKT
I have twice had a problem with generic TEVA both with Zoloft and with Ambien. The TEVA zoloft made me feel anxious and icky, and the TEVA made zolpidem (generic ambien) did not work well, and made me wake up with a horrible metallic smell/taste in my mouth. It was toxic like! Gave me nightmares as well.
I have had good luck with Greenstone manu of the generic Zoloft, and good luck with both Watson and Wockhardt generic Ambien–however, I cannot find either anymore. Watson quit making it and Wockhardt was on back-order for a time and no one will order it or says they can.
CVS taking over of Longs has ruined that Pharmacy for me. I now use Sav-on at my local Albertson’s where they are very nice and will order whatever they can if they can. They are giving me the choice of Sandoz, Mylan, Caraco, or Dr. Reddy for the Zolpidem, all of which I have read bad reviews on, but mixed with some good ones too. I think I will try the Sandoz.
I wish that when people post that they had a bad or good generic, that they would take the time to indicate which manufacturer it was from. This can be found on the bottle in at least an abbreviated form. You can also put the imprint from the pill on which can help us recognize the maker.
There are almost 20 manufacturers of generic
Ambien and I am sure that some work better than others. It would be great if we could all help each other out by giving as much info as possible so that if a generic works kind of ok, then we know maybe that is better than one that is mentioned alot-the TEVA made one, which no one seems to like.
I will let you know how the Sandoz works. I simply cannot afford the real ambien anymore.
Also, do not be confused when you try the Ambien CR free trial–and then go the the regular or generic Ambien. The CR is time released and is fabulous. That is not available in generic form yet. Another couple of years for that. So, even the real Ambien (not the timed release) will be different than the Ambien CR, and the generic will never be close to the Ambien CR as it is not the timed release.
Please provide good and bad manufacturer names in posts! That is the only way we can help each other!
Thanks!
Sandy
I am 60 years old and was diagnosed about 30 years ago as bipolar/manic depressive. I take Paxil and Depakote daily and will for the rest of my life. I also have Hoshimoto’s disease and have to take synthroid.
The firm I work for changed insurance carriers in January 2009. This meant that I had to have my doctor write all new prescriptions for my medications so that I could send them to the mail order pharmacy (get 3 months for the price of 2).
The pharmacy filled all of my medications with generics because the doctor did not write “dispense as written” on the forms. After taking the drugs for a few weeks we started noticing some slight changes which continued to get worse. My mood swings were returning and I started acting totally out of character.
I have always enjoyed going to the casinos since they opened in Missouri. However, I started going by myself and staying all night long. I would get home at 5am and then go to work at 9am. I did this 3 weeks in a row. The last week was the “kicker.” I had just gotten paid and went to the casino and lost almost my entire paycheck. I called my doctor the next day.
After only taking the name brand drugs for a week, I was a whole new person. Even my coworkers noticed the change.
You website was very helpful in diagnosing the problem. I had no idea there was so much difference in generic drugs. It is quite obvious that I can’t take them.
Linda S.
I take generic Norvasc and Lisinopril for hypertension and recently during a period of high stress I experienced a dramatic DROP in blood pressure that left me for a week with a headache, fatigue, blurred vision. The brand of generic has not changed and I’ve been on them for years. I know lactose is a filler in many meds. Not knowing where my generics are manufactured, I wonder if the fillers have become contaminated.
AD
Problem with bupropion XL the generic Wellbutrin XL.
I feel like I am having withdrawal symptoms of not taking the drug even though I am taking it. I have a burning sensation throughout my body and a light-headedness. It is a feeling of severe discomfort and agitation.
vw
I have had a problem with fluoxetine that I do not have with brand name Prozac. In switching back and forth, it takes about 4 weeks to notice differences either way.
Medco won’t pay for Prozac.
arb
I took Wellbutrin SR for some time, then Wellbutrin XL. At some point when getting a refill I was offered the generic, Budeprion XL, and said ok to save money. After about 10 days I was so depressed and hopeless I didn’t know what to do, I had never felt this bad before. Luckily this was just at the time that the Graedon’s article appeared publicising problems with generic Wellbutrin. I had a few real pills left, started taking them, and almost immediately felt fine. I then remembered that once I was temporarily switched from daily Wellbutrin XL to Budeprion SR twice a day and became unhappy and cross–I thought it was the difference between XL and SR but now I think it was the generic SR.
L.M.
My elderly father-in-law had been taking NAME BRAND Wellbutrin to help with a range of compulsive behaviors and depression. The drug was a miracle for him. His compulsive behaviors (food addiction) and extreme passivity were markedly better. Unfortunately, he had a fall that landed him in rehab. While there, the rehab facility switched him to genric Bupropion without notice. All of his out-of-bounds behaviors returned. He vomited so much that many days he could not take the therapy he needed. He constantly badgered nurses and attendants for food. His compulsive overeating had been completely under control on the name brand. I thought that perhaps the effectiveness of Wellbutrin had worn off after several months, or that the facility was no longer giving him his medicine. When I checked, I discovered the switch. The generic Wellbutrin DOES NOT WORK. This has been a major setback for him, as weeks have gone by in his 13 weeks (13 weeks of therapy are allowed by Medicare after a fall.) His vomiting has interfered with progress, and he is missing the “can-do” attitude he had on Wellbutrin. A SHAME that pharmacists can make the change without notifying patients of potential problems.
Tim
I’ve taken generic ambien for several years and found it to be no different that the brand name drug. That changed when Rite-Aid switched to the version manufactured by Teva USA. It now takes me at least an hour to get to sleep on the full 10 mg. Before, I only needed about half a tablet, and would typically take 15-20 minutes to fall asleep. I’ve mentioned this to my pharmacist, and he says he’s been hearing the same complaint from others, but he’s powerless to do anything about it.
This is not a placebo effect. In fact, the first week I was taking the Teva version, I was in denial, looking for other reasons for my sudden insomnia. But nothing else in my life has changed- no diet changes, no bedtime or environmental changes, no excessive stress. I simply believe that the TEVA version is inferior, and should be evaluated by the FDA.
DMD
I was first given Brand name Prozac in the 1990s. It has been the only anti-depressant that has worked for me. A few years ago it was discovered that I had a brain tumor and news of this caused a downward spiral. Prior to this my husband had complained about the price of Prozac brand name – both of our insurances stopped coverage due to the existence of generics.
To make a long story short the generic meds do not work for me. The cost of brand name Prozac is $179.00 per month. I cannot afford to pay this much for a badly needed, life saving medication. Eli Lilly needs to lower the cost or I need help in getting my insurance companies to cover Prozac in the brand name. I cannot live without it!!!!
The FDA must address this issue. It is a life or death situation. The generics do not help with my major depression.
Please, FDA, reply and tell me know what steps I need to take to get this terrible problem fixed. I do not want to die from suicide because I cannot reap any benefit from generic prozac.
tb
I have unsatisfactory experiences with the generic Estradiol patch. I’ve had trouble w/ the adhesive, but more importantly, the transmission of the estradiol itself. I’ve tried using the generic a couple of times and won’t use it any longer. The patch is supposed to be worn for a week at a time, but before even half the week is past, I felt hot flashes during the night. Strong enough to wake me up & wet w/ perspiration! I have to pay the extra costs for a brand name so I can get full strength/full effects. My insurance company only pays the lower 90-day cost if I take the generic.
Rico
Brand name Coumadin vs. generic warfarin …
My father, who has an artificial mitral valve and has had multiple coronary bypasses, takes Coumadin to thin his blood.
He has found it easy to control his INR and PT with brand name Coumadin, but it’s difficult to regulate his numbers when he takes generic warfarin.
We have found that some CNAs — and perhaps some LVNs — think there is no difference in brand name Coumadin and generic warfarin, and they dispense the drugs interchangeably.
This substitution and the resulting problems have occurred in a highly regarded post-surgery rehab facility.
What’s more, the director of nursing in this facility tells us they order only brand name Coumadin.
If she is correct, then their suppliers, the staff members who order and receive drug shipments, and those who dispense the meds need to be trained — or retrained — and it needs to happen immediately.
When the result of providing less-effective generics can be uncontrolled bleeding or potentially deadly clots, there’s no time to waste.
sjarrett
I have been on Neurotin for several years. I switched to generic Gabapentin through Medco about 2 years ago. I had a slightly lower effectiveness, but it was still tolerable. I did suffer from more headaches. Then recently, the mfg changed to Greenstone. I am not able to take this generic! It causes flu-like symptoms- sore throat, swollen glands in neck, stiff neck, muscle fatigue & pain, as well as increased anxiety and headaches. Went back on the other mfg generics, symptoms subsided. I am now battling with Medco to have them send the other mfg!
anonymous
I had taken Zoloft a long time so I know what the real drug feels like. The first generic given was from some drug company starting I think with A; it did not not really do much. The second generic given was a nightmare. It gave this horrible sensation in the head/scalp after taking the third or 4th 50 mg pill and stopped that immediately. This generic company I looked up on the internet at some website, described the white oblong pill with the logo, and it appears to be Ranbaxy Drug Company.
I refuse to take any generic anymore except from Pfizer, the real thing or a generic that Pfizer makes is okay…
Jason R.
Generic Wellbutrin is dangerous to self and to society. I’ve been through two of the worst weeks in my entire life. Two weeks ago my health plan switched my Wellbutrin XL to generic–the big yellow pills. Within a day or two, I could tell I was restless, irritable, anxious.
I thought, “oh it’s nothing”. I noticed I started clenching my fingers together like I was “cracked out” on amphetemines. My friends started complaining about how bitchy I was acting. The irritability got worse. I lost all my focus to work (I take wellbutrin for ADHD).
Yesterday was the peak. I ended up getting highly aggressive. I spent all the money in my checking account. I cut off cars in the highway and ran a red stop light. I could have been killed or killed someone else.
I ended up calling my best friend and screamed at him telling him I hated him and never wanted to speak to him again. I took some Valium and tried to sleep, but I woke up in the middle of the night, hysterical.
I went to the urgent clinic to ask for a new script; they took my blood pressure and it was abnormally high. I’ve never had high blood pressure before. I’ve still been breaking out into tears today, but I didn’t take the generic. This stuff is dangerous. I could have been suicidal or hurt someone. this medicine is so not what it claims to be. It needs to be taken off the market.
Melinda M
I have been taking clonazepam for years. Brookshires in my town switched MFG and I obtained my RX and took as I have always done in the early morning.
I am a Nursing student and had a important math exam to continue my Pedi rotation but during the exam I had a panic attack like I have never had before. I was able to complete the test do to the panic attack. I returned to retake and the panic came again an I failed and had to drop out of nursing school.
I believe this generic drug that Brookshire obtained. I have never failed a math test or any of my nursing classes till I took this Pink clonazepam pill. Thanks for listen, but it doesn’t help me make my Dean of nursing understand what was happenning to me last week.
JPJ
I have been taking synthroid for years; the generic “equivalent” absolutely doesn’t work for me, as proven by blood tests. Nevertheless, in spite of the fact that my MD writes “brand name medically necessary” on my prescription, my mail order pharmacy persists in sending me the generic form.
Kathleen
The nonactive ingredients in Generic Allegra cause depression and central nervous system reactions as it weans off (3 – 4 hours later).
Stay with the real Allegra so that you don’t have highs and lows during the day.
R Bruzek
I switched from Yasmin to Ocella (generic) and the results were strongly negative. I became depressed and had anxiety and short attention span. I’ve not been able to focus. My self-talk has been incredibly negative. I’ve lost the drive/energy to do anything. Please don’t take Ocella. Have your doctor write “DAW1” or “Brand Name Only” on your script. I know it’s a higher price to pay, but it’s worth my health.
MBS
Dangers of generic Ambien.My pharmacy switched me to the generic and I was up all night!
Insurance company does not care. i feel like my life has stopped. Who do I check with before getting a generic? Why is there no agency keeping the public safe?
Larrie Collura
Our Son got a dpt vaccinne lot 2A41126. He suffered brain damage along with 138 other babies. 11 deaths were reported. This lot met the critia 12 times to be recalled and was not. By law we had just 3 years to file a suit of this drug. It took us over 3 years to find that the vaccine was at the heart of Larrie’s problem. All his doctor agree it was the vaccine but the laws are there to protect pharma …What can be do…
Lovig Father
kb
Hi All,
Thank goodness I found this. I have been taking generic bupropion XL 150 since August 08 for mild depression and was on the brand name for quite some time before that with good success. I did not think much about it at the time as busy with work, etc, and just chalked it up to stress. Talked to my counselor, thought I just needed to work through it. But have always felt a bit off.
Over the last 3 months i have gone seriously downhill. (went from one generic brand which I can’t remember to Weber in January) Two night ago I had a serious meltdown, (haven’t had one in a year or more) So today thought I would do a little research and see what my problem is, turning 40?, hormones?, etc., never giving the wellbutrin a thought, my mind was saying, well, you’re taking your pill everyday, can’t be the depression, eventually my search did lead to wellbutrin and I found this site.
Most symptoms everyone is reporting are exactly what has been going on…anxious, angry, (an avid exerciser) not wanting to exercise for months, crying, gaining a bit of weight that is not normal, cloudy brain, all of it fit. My hair had been thinning in one spot since last fall…and could not figure it out..could it be the generic’s fault a well? We’ll find out. I called my pharmacist as soon as I read through these posts and confirmed my dates of going on the generic wellbutrin XL!
Wow, what a relief to finally figure it out. I am going to immediately stop the generic and get back on the brand name.
Thank you for this site!
DLS
I have extreme allergies and when my insurance company informed me that I was no longer getting Brand and had to get generic, I took the generics for several months. The Celexa generic caused me to have ideations — I felt great pleasure at the thought of pulling my husband’s ears off…. I understood what was happening, explained to him, and basically locked myself in the bedroom until the effect was gone (about 3 days).
Couldn’t get Brand Celexa. As my meds were changed to generics, the side effects were horrid. I would end up in bed, unable to eat or even drink water, doubled over in severe pain! Doc’s fix? another generic drug for GERD which caused vomiting and itching. I quit taking all my meds 3 years ago. I refuse to take more.
When I die, it will be from the disease process, and it won’t be a bought death from useless medications. In order to live and take the Brand names, I would have had to spend over $1400 a month….to live in virtual pain and agony, $60 a month….
jd
As I just put in my comment on the generic Paxil by Zygenerics not working, I should add that it was about a year and a half ago I started taking xanax for sleep. At first I tried the generic but it didn’t work as I remembered it working years ago when I took it for just several months. I switched to brand, and walah! it worked. Thus, the generic xanax wasn’t good. I continue to pay the high price for the brand Xanax. That’s two out of two generics that don’t work for me. Something is definitely amiss. This is a serious problem. Is any consumer advocacy group aware of the problem and is anyone working to stop these imports????
jd
I’ve been on generic paxil for the past year. It’s worked great for the chronic low-grade anxiety I used to experience; completely got rid of it. My pharmacy switched me to a different generic 5 months ago– no problem. Four weeks ago, my pharmacy switched me to yet another generic, by Zygenerics I just found out.
It doesn’t work! My old symptoms were back within a few days, and I feel awful. Anxiety is back. My thinking is not clear. I’m going to find another pharmacy who has a different generic to try that. I just called the pharmacy with questions about the drug not working, asked who makes it, looked it up and found this web site.
PH
I have been taking the anti-depressant drug Celexa for a number of years. A few months ago when picking up my Celexa prescription I noticed that the name on the prescription bottle was not the same. I questioned the pharmacist and was told that the new drug was the generic for Celexa and was exactly the same, just less expensive – $5.00 instead of $15.00.
A few weeks into taking the generic I started feeling depressed again – with the same feelings I had before taking Celexa. I told my Psychiatrist about the generic and my feelings. He explained to me in detail how the generic was not exactly the same as Celexa. He was quite upset and mentioned that this same thing had happened with many of his other patients (being changed to the generic of whatever anti-depressant they were on).
He wrote a new prescription making sure to check the box saying NO Generic. Obviously the pharmacist are willing to lie to make more money. These people should be sued.
Jen
I began taking Wellbutrin in 1993. It changed my life, literally, overnight. I continued to take it with good results until the generic came out. I took the generic for about two weeks then threw it in the trash. I pay full price for Wellbutrin but buying generic is literally throwing my money away (and even the generic isn’t cheap).
I resent it. Somebody, somewhere knows what they are doing. And they couldn’t care less. And IMHO, the FDA doesn’t much care either, they just don’t want the drug to kill us.
Sharyn R.
I’ve been taking hydrochlorothiazid (25 mg) for approx. 4-5 years. My Federal BC/BS requires generics. I recently switched all my prescriptions from Walmart to Kroger Pharmacy. I’ve never had an allergic reaction to anything. However, through a week of absolute torture, it was narrowed down to the generic HCT. It started with an extremely itchy scalp, then the next day severe rash, next day whelps and extreme itching. The doctor gave me a steroid shot and I was a little better the next day.
But not knowing what the problem was I kept taking the HCT. Then the welts and itching covered most of my body and I developed fever of 101. Went back to the doctor and she put me on prednisone. Took the 1st 6 pills, and the next day was “slightly” better. Took the HCT and within 20 minutes the itching and welts started developing while I was watching them. I immediately took the 2nd day dose of prednisone (6 pills). I truly believe I would have gone into shock had I not had the prednisone.
This case was not one of going from name-brand to generic… it was one generic to another generic. The manufacturer was ACTAVIS. I would like the FDA notified of this problem, but not sure what needs to be done. In my case, there was definitely a quality control problem. Any advise or assistance would be appreciated. Thank you!
J. Olson
I have been taking generic Ambien by Apotex for a while and it works almost as well as the brand name. My pharmacy switched to Teva brand and it’s worthless! When I finally went to sleep I was having weird dreams, waking up, more weird dreams, and feel like I never slept.
CR
I have been taking generic versions of zoloft and trileptil. Zoloft should be taken in the morning, and trileptil at night. The generic version of these two pills look exactly alike, except for a very slight difference in size, and this morning I mixed them up and took the wrong one in the morning.
L. Diggins
I am SO disappointed/angry regarding this generic issue as I have suffered greatly due to it. If the people that were making the generic Wellbutrin had to go thru the slippery HELL that is depression, they wouldn’t be so quick to try shortcuts to a profit.
Now that I have figured this out (I had previously been on Wellbutrin for at least 6 symptom-free years), I am definitely switching back to the brand name and never taking a generic again.
It is SO sad to me that this can go on…people with depression struggle enough in their lives without having to deal with this too. I would like a class action lawsuit to be initiated and/or some type of federal regulations that could prevent this. We are truly talking about life and death–do their realize that?
kimber
i’ve been on 3 medications for my epilepsy for about 6 years now (give or take- spotty memory- i bump my head a lot!) seriously- this blend of meds was finally working. Keppra, lamictal, and topimax… all name brand drugs. Then all of the sudden the pharmacy with no warning or even a comment gives me the generic for my lamictal. I started having myclonic jerks and within a month had a grand mal seizure.
I asked them when i saw the difference in the pills- is it the same… they assured me it was the same. so after I had the seizure I went back questioning them and my doctors and apparently the ‘government says it’s the same so therefore it’s the same- I’m pretty sure I’ve experienced proof of it not being the same.
Jennifer
I was on Wellbutrin XL 300mg for a few years with no ill effects; in fact, the medication worked better & had the fewest side effects of any I’d taken previously. However, after being switched to Budeprion XL 300mg (TEVA) in June 2008 and then to Bupropion XL 300mg (Watson) in Feb 2009, I’ve had nothing but depression, severe migraines & other health problems. I was rushed to the ER last week for what I thought was a heart attack, but was told the heart arrhythmia, high BP, heart pounding, hyperventilation and migraine-that-felt-like-a-stroke was “probably” due to anxiety.
I have umpteen follow-up appts. to rule out heart and/or thyroid problems, but funny how everything is returning to normal since getting back on the real Wellbutrin. I had no idea other people were having problems until I did a GIS on the subject after the ER visit.
I plan on filing a MedWatch report with the FDA, and will keep close tabs on this issue. I can’t believe the FDA never tested the 300mg XL version!
LEH
In October of 2008, I finally got tired of putting up with the sexual side effects and sleep problems I was having with Lexapro. My doctor had me switched to Wellbutrin. Unfortunately, the prescription plan I was on would only cover Wellbutrin SR. My doctor had me start on 150MG – half the clinical dose. After five days, I called him up and said I could not take it.
The side effects were horrendous. One of the first things that happened was that my period, normally quite stable, appeared three weeks early and I bled very heavily. I could not sleep at night. My thoughts were racing. I became increasingly paranoid, fearful that my partner planned to kill me. By late afternoon of the day of my last dose, I was absolutely certain that I was having a heart attack.
I was eventually seen in the emergency room where I was diagnosed with severe dehydration, anemia and acute panic disorder. It was a financial disaster as my insurance refused to cover most of the medical costs from that weekend.
I was switched to the Wellbutrin XL by Glaxo-Smith-Kline. I started taking it January 23. I am still taking it and the difference is tremendous. I feel better, sleep better and my ability to concentrate has increased. In addition, the sexual side effects are gone. The problem? Blue Cross/Blue Shield has decided that they know better than my psychiatrist, better than me and better than my body. They will not cover Wellbutrin XL and at $152 a month, I will have no choice but to go back on the other drug that I disliked so much. It’s insane!
RJC
My doctor made a mistake when renewing my prescription for buproprion which resulted in Medco sending me Anchen 300mg HCL XL Buproprion (Medco’s generic buproprion default) instead of TEVA 300mg XL Budeprion. Within an hour of receiving the Anchen I flushed it down the toilet (my doctor said it’s OK to do this with buproprion) and had to do some mad scrambling with my doctor and Medco before the TEVA ran out.
It somewhat amazes me that TEVA works great for me while many others have serious problems with it, and I’m bipolar no less. Anchen triggered me into psychogenic erectile dysfunction in the past along with some negative physical effects but did not affect my mood in any way. However, I’m sure Anchen works great for some just like TEVA works great for some. I haven’t seen too many complaints about Anchen on this site.
Sandi
I was prescribed wellbutrin SR about 7 years ago to help me quit smoking and I did very well taking it for 3 months. Now I am going through menopause, having mild depression and started smoking again. Since I had taken wellbutrin SR before, my doctor prescribed it for me to help with the depression and smoking.
When I filled the prescription the pharmacy gave me budeproprion SR. I didn’t think anything about the substitution for a generic. I started taking the budeproprion SR as prescribed, once a day for the first 5 days and then twice a day after that. I was doing ok until I increased to twice a day.
Then I started having all kinds of weird symptoms. My heart would pound, my vision would get blurry, I felt so jumpy and shakey inside. I started having all this anxiety that I had never had before. It was like having too much caffeine times 100. After taking budeproprion for 10 days I was laying in bed and could not sleep, my heart was pounding and I was freaking out. I seriously thought I was going to die. I got up and made myself a stiff drink to try and calm myself down (I had to have 2 strong drinks to calm down and to be able to sleep that night).
I got on the internet and did a search on budeproprion. Thank God people had left comments about this scary scary drug! I went to the pharmacy the next morning and told the pharmacist the budeproprion was making me sick. I asked him why it would make me freak out when the wellbutrin never did. The pharmacist told me the main ingredient buproprion had to be the same, but the fillers can be different and some people had different reactions to the fillers. I had taken wellbutrin before and never reacted like this. The pharmacist told me my doctor would have to change my prescription to wellbutrin “only” or my insurance would not cover it. The pharmacy called my doctors office and reported the budeproprion was making me sick. My doctor changed my prescription to wellbutrin “no substitutions”. It cost me $35 rather than $5, but it’s worth it. I am doing great now taking the wellbutrin. No smoking and my depression is so much better.
The comments on this site may have saved my life. Reading the comments just validated all my concerns and sent me straight to my pharmacy for help. I am outraged about this generic and plan to tell anybody that will listen!!! They need to take this drug off the market before it kills someone!!!
E. T.
I have been on ziac for blood pressure for a long time. In recent years the insurance has tried to switch me to the generic (bisoprolol fumarate/hudrochlorothiazide). Each time I tried to switch I had to get up about five times during the night to go to the bathroom. I am back on the ziac but pay about $65-70 for a three months supply instead of $5.
CAP
Have been taking Lopressor for several years… my pharmacy switched to a generic that seemed to have no effect on lowering my blood pressure, so I went back to the brand name…
After 2 years, due to $ issues, I tried the generic again, hoping it would work this time… no luck – bp is control for several hours and then shoots sky high… I’m really afraid I’m going to blow an artery out… had to go back and pay more cash for the very expensive Lopressor…
Rudy C
I have had several generic drugs that did not meet up with the brand name one.
Procardia Xl 90 Mg Was ineffective. Generic Questran from Sandoz also did not do the job. I have a feeling that Sandoz generic lotrel is also not up to snuff. My drug plan insists I use generics when possible, so I have not got much choice except to deal with those generic drug companies that I feel are close generics to the brand name. Parr chemicals for generic Questran, I think TEvA for generic lotrel. I think the FDA is more concerned with working with drug companies rather than looking out for those of us who take the generics.
Rudy c
CR
I have been taking zoloft for about 10 years – 50 mg – and doing fine. Last year I switched to generic to save money and have definitely noticed a return of depressive symptoms. As others have said, it is not as severe as pre-zoloft, but definitely noticeable. I’m wondering if the amount of ‘active ingredients’ varies by batches? The manufacturer is Lupin, from India, I believe.
K.M.
I used Wellbutrin 200 for about 4 years. About 18 months ago, I was upgraded to Wellbutrin 300 so that I could get the generic version Buproprion 300XL. For my last refill I was substituted Budeprion 300XL. I experienced severe insomnia, depression, fear of being abandoned, severe headache and irrational aggressive behavior in the 13 days that I took this substitute med. Within 24 hrs of going off of it, I am returning more to my normal self.
I will never accept this substitute again & want to know what to do with the rest of this prescription that I will not use ever again. I will insist on the Buproprion 300XL only even if I have to pay for it myself in spite of the insurance company.
MD
I took Keppra for epilepsy. I began taking generic Keppra in January 2009. I felt sick to my stomach and had multiple, repetitive seizures. My neurologist had told me to stay on the brand med and even wrote ‘brand necessary’ on the script, but the PBM refused and gave me generic. I had seizures for 5 weeks before the PBM would allow me to go back on the brand.
The PBM always tries to call my doctor to get him to prescribe the generic for me. My blood level on the generic was much lower than on the brand. I don’t believe the generic is as effective as the brand.
Mary B.
I was taking synthroid for a time for hashimotos thyroid disease and my insurance switched to only paying for generic and my body cramps came back as if I was taking nothing at all. Generic sucks!
Eric B.
Generic Keppra.
Started taking on December 15th ’08
5 seivures in 4 days. Including Christmas Day ’08
Must I say to the Food and Drug… Never Again.
LR
Generic Toprol Xl, my mom was doing just fine with the brand name. She was switched to the generic and both her blood pressure and heart rate are all over the place. She feels weak and light headed. I am taking her to the Dr. Tuesday and asking him to change her medication ASAP!
The stuff is just not good.
Susan
My 18 year old son has taken Keppra since December 2007 for severe migraines. He has done well with no side effects and only an occasional breakthrough migraine, and those being much less severe than before beginning the Keppra. In January 2009 he was switched to the generic version Levetiracetam. Within a week or so, his migraines began to return with increasing frequency and severity. His condition has deteriorated almost to the point he was before he began taking Keppra, despite very careful monitoring of his diet and daily habits. His neurologist switched him back to the brand name Keppra just today. I am convinced the generic version has been ineffective for his migraines.
Sonya
I had been taking Quasense (the generic brand for Seasonale) for about 2 years when I was given a different generic called Jolessa. I hated it. It made me gain at least 15 pounds and I actually had break through bleeding which I had never gotten any of these side effects on Quasense. Eventually I had to go back to monthly birth control instead of using the 4 month kind.
Steve
This is addressed to jcv and cw who both posted on March 10th. First, I was wondering if jvc knows the manufacturer of the generic he was taking. And, to both of you, I would suggest trying to find a pharmacy that uses Watson as the generic for Wellbutrin (unless of course that is the manufacturer that jcv had the problem with). Based upon my experience and others I know and many on this board (although, not all, I know) Watson seems to be a generic that many (not all, I know) find to be like the brand name. My local Rite Aid used to carry it but they have gone to TEVA; I guess that is cheaper. I had to call around and found an independent that uses Watson.
CW
I have been taking 450mg Wellbutrin XL for depression for about 4 years now with great results and virtually no side effects. Just last week I had my prescription refilled and was given the generic Bupropion made by Teva because of an insurance change. I had a few name brand Wellbutrin left so I gradually switched to taking the generic.
Now that I am taking only the generic my hands have been shaky and the muscle in my thumb keeps twitching. I am having difficulty typing accurately and it is more difficult to write things by hand. Also I have had a really dry mouth..no amount of water seems to help.
My thoughts are jumbled up and I sometimes have a hard time thinking of words that I want to say. I am thinking that the generic is to blame for all of this :-( THIS SUCKS!!
JCV
The first of this year we changed insurance companies, that’s when I switched from Wellbutrin XL to generic brand Bupropion HCL XL because the brand is not covered by insurance and it was very expensive for the brand.
Well, here we are at the beginning of March and I don’t remember being this depressed since I started taking Wellbutrin XL 4 yrs ago. I just got off the phone with my pharmacy and switched back to name brand. It is a terrible shame that the pharmaceutical company that makes Wellbutrin will even allow this generic to be on the market.
It has been a horrible experience for the last 2 1/2 months on the generic brand. It was like I was not taking anything at all, and I experienced major depression, body aches, stomach problems I had never had before. Wellbutrin XL brand is much more expensive than generic brand, but I would pay any amount of money not to feel the way I have been for the last 2 1/2 months.
K. Powell
“To set the record straight,” within less than a week of beginning the generic Teva Budeprion 300 XL, I went from making leaps and bounds of progress and feeling the best I had in years to wanting to kill myself. CONSTANTLY. I’d love the people on the FDA who have depressed family members to try this Teva crap out on them and see how they like it. I’m betting they would go for the name brand.
Jimbo
Walgreens recently switched their generic adderall from Barr to Corepharma. I have taken the drug for about 4 years now and have noticed a huge difference in effectiveness. The Corepharma generic adderall is much less effective than the Barr tablets were. Despite the fact that everyone says they’re chemically the same, there is a very noticeable difference between the two and I’m not sure what is causing it. I am going to have to pay for the name brand stuff now.
DH
I have been taking Ambien for some years (10mg x2 per day), and when it became available, switched to a generic form. I noticed some slight reduction in efficacy in comparison to the brand name form but was able to use it. However, recently my pharmacy switched to TEVA’s generic Ambien, and to my surprise found it completely useless.
Even going off the medication for a while and returning to it did not solve the problem. Other family members found the same problem independently, and I know my response (or lack thereof) is not imaginary. My pharmacist told me she had received several complaints from patients re: the same issue after filling Ambien prescriptions with TEVA tablets. Please listen to patients, FDA.
mlp
As for the MallinKrt lortabs, they are like taking nothing. It is awful. I have arthritis and these are no better than aspirin. I have to pay the extra for the Watsons but I don’t care. There ought to be a law because these do NOT have any pain reliever in them, I was prescribed 10/500 I took 2 and felt next to nothing.
Joe & Katrina
We would like to comment about the epilepsy drug Keppra. Our daughter has been taking Keppra for 3 years, her seizures have been under control with only a few break through mild seizures. But because she has medicaid she was giving the generic Keppra. Within weeks she had multiple seizures a week. The neurologist switched her to Keppra XR. There no generic version on the market. And guess what? No more seizures.
Paul R.
I recently was diagnosed with clinical depression. I started taking a daily half dosage – 5mg – of Lexapro that was supplied free from the doctor. Everything was going along really well I hadn’t felt that good in years. The free supply ran out and I returned to get a prescription. Instead of Lexapro I was prescribed Esipram, a generic, and that’s when the problems started. Initially I started feel sick and then forgetful and finally exceedingly anxious after two weeks on Esipram. I returned to my doctor who put me back on Lexapro and within four days I am nearly back to where I was prior to taking Esipram.
MND
I was prescribed generic Halcion before periodontal surgery and was to take one an hour before, bringing the other one to the office for them to decide if I needed it. Other than becoming slightly sleepy,I felt no effect. When I arrived, the staff instructed me to dissolve the other one under my tongue. When the periodontist began giving me a number of injections inside my mouth, they were so painful that he had to stop and administer nitrous oxide to me several times. (He could not do it continuously as he was working under my upper lip and the mask was in the way.)
I am of average size and become giddy after drinking one glass of wine, which the doctor told me is comparable in knowing how much I should have been affected by the sedation. Another patient, who had taken one name brand Halcion, reportedly had tumbled into the grass outside the office on the way in that morning and could not walk unaided. My doctor said that he intends, based on my experience, to discontinue prescribing the generic and to only prescribe the name brand.
Ray E.
I’m a four-year survivor of brain cancer. I was on Keppra from the day of my diagnosis until September 2008. I was seizure-free for two years. I was switched to Levetiracetm, a generic form of Keppra. I had two seizures shortly after I changed medications and another seizure a few months later. My doctor has put me back on Keppra.
Ray E.
I’m a four-year survivor of brain cancer. I was on Keppra from the day of my diagnosis until September 2008. I was seizure-free for two years. I was switched to Levetiracetm, a generic form of Keppra. I had two seizures shortly after I changed medications and another seizure a few months later. My doctor has put me back on Keppra.
Sheila
I recently started taking generic metoprolol 50mg from another manufacturer. My BP is now 149/98. It had been around 118/80. I feel like I am not on medication at all and have an odd feeling of impending doom. Just not feeling normal. I am going to contact my pharmacy tomorrow as well as my Docs office and insurance company to see about getting back on the non generic Toprol XL again.
Jennifer
I was put on the Ethex generic Toprol XL several months ago for tachycardia. My blood pressure is usually within the normal range ( 110- 120 over 75), but my heart rate is high, sometimes up to 120 bpm. I didn’t realise the fluctuating blood pressure and up and down heart rate I experienced after I began taking it had to do with the medicine, until the generic was recalled and the pharmacy switched me over to the brand name Toprol XL. The difference was significant, even with the first dose. My heart rate was steady at 74 bpm, and my blood pressure also remained constant. When I was switched again to the PAR generic, it worked just as well as the brand name, only minus a side effect I was having with the brand name.
SHG
I was prescribed Synthroid rather than
generic. Dr’s reason: generics not in reliable doses. Have been on Sythroid 15 years and was also on dosage lowering regime because of age over a
period of 2 years – from .175 to .125.
Weight gain is a constant, am on a primarily no fat, no carbs, vegetarian diet with some fish and poultry for protein.
My 36 year old son had brain surgery
in Nov. 2008, and had been been on
generic Keppra since. 2 weeks ago he
had a hallucinatory, bad smell perception seizure. He was placed on brand Keppra, the generic is suspected as a cause – not reliable doses.
JBF
Your article re Generic drug problems was published in Pasadena Star News about 3 weeks ago. I had generic Toprol for about a year with irregular heart beat. Cardiologist had me wear monitor for two different periods. After your article I switched to brand (had two Dr. sample packs on hand) and problem went away within 24hours. Filled recent prescription with brand and remain trouble free. Cardiologist felt my problem was not life threatening and opinioned the generic was unlikely to be the culprit. Thank you for alerting me to the potential–your info was right on!
DF
Bupropion ( generic for Wellbutrin XL) is not the same!!
I have been on Wellbutrin XL for about 6 months and last month, I noticed that I was feeling very irritable & all my symptoms came back. My husband and mother even mentioned to me that I was not myself. I happened to look at the prescription bottle and noticed that the bottle was actually the generic, bupropion, but the patient label said it was Wellbutrin XL.
I went to the pharmacist and after looking at the bottle and the pills, he did confirm that it was the generic form & someone made a mistake by printing out the brand name label and putting it on the generic bottle. Looking back, I did remember that the pills were bigger, but I didn’t think much about it.
Not sure how that mix up happened, but I was furious. I almost reported it, but decided not to.
So, I didn’t even know I was on a generic form. Just goes to show you how terrible it is. It needs to be pulled off the market.
ks
In Sept 2008 I was notified that my generic drug, Propafenone was being recalled due to 2 different sized pills in the batch. I was switched to another generic manufacturer and the pills cost me almost $10 more than the previous generic manufacturer. In Feb. 2009 I was notified that the second generic manufacturer was shut down by the FDA due to unsanitary conditions in another part of the plant but that my propafenone was safe to use. How can that be? Brand name Rythmol was then ordered for me. It was $10 cheaper than the generic drug and it seems to be working much better than the 2 generic drugs.
Annie R.
Generic albuterol (for asthma).
My asthma was out of control and rescue inhalers did not help, in fact for the first 30 mins I would be worse after using inhaler. My pulmonologist finally suggested non-generic inhaler.
I improved immediately! Seems the propellants in the generics can be lethal to some of us!
L. C.
I am a Parkinson’s patient since 2001. I now am on disability and have a medical and drug replacement policy with Humana. They in 2009 closed their formulary to all medication which had a generic.
I have been on generic Senemet CR 50/200 for approximately 6 weeks. The pharmacist @ Humana swear by them, the drug furnished me is from Canada, and could not come close to the real thing. There are days I go all day shaking because the meds are no good. I do not understand why my doctor is a movement specialist and a PHD and a DR and a Neurologist and he appealed their decision and they said no exceptions.
If had the money I would have this drug tested to see how bad they are one pill compared to another. There are days when they cause diskonsia and days I shake all day long.
CAN ANYONE HELP?
Lee
P.S. Humana would be glad to sell me the real Sinemet CR @ $580.00 for 3 months. Stickem up!!!!
GI
Generic (Teva) version of Wellbutrin XL Budeprion XL almost caused my wife to commit suicide. Wellbutrin XL and the generic Watson has worked for my wife for a couple of years, and about 1 month ago she switched to Teva. I did not notice a difference at first, but gradually her depression returned quickly and with severity not seen in the past. I immediately ran out and purchased the brand and with in 48 hours she was back to her normal cheerful self.
I work for a pharmaceutical company and I would have never thought there could be an issue with generics. I am SHOCKED! It was as if she was taking a placebo. Because I work for a pharmaceutical company, I immediately documented the lot # and even scanned the label, and reported to FDA via Medwatch form.
sheila H.
I have also noticed that the Wal-Mart version of generic prilosec does not work as well.
For a long time I took brand name Prilosec; when a generic came out, I used Sun or sunmark sold at a local hometown pharmacy; pretty good results. When our new wal-mart opened, I started getting my generic prilosec there; Boy, I can not count the number of times lately that I have been awakened out of a deep sleep with reflux in my throat and mouth! I was beginning to wonder what was wrong, because I watch my night time foods and liquids.
I am going back to the generic by Sun or sunmark (can’t recall which it is) or the REAL, genuine PRILOSEC.
sheila H., branson
Penny F.
My daughter who is 10 years old has Hashimoto’s and is being treated with Synthroid. She has been on a dose of 75mcg for quite awhile now, but she had a growth spurt and needed to adjust her levels, and her doctor adjusted her to every other day 75 and 88 mcg, but she had a reaction to the dye in the 88 mcg pill.
The doctor decided to try her on Levoxyl 88 mcg every other day, and alternating with the Synthroid 75 mcg. I was concerned with the mixture because she is very sensitive to medications. Within days of being on this alternating regimen from Feb. 14-23 she had severe cramping in her stomach, achy and weak legs, extremely tired, hot and cold. This dose was actually making her thyroid symptoms worse.
I would not even recommend this Medication to a dog. I stopped it and she is starting to feel somewhat better, but the stomach cramping comes and goes. The doctor is in total denial that the medication can affect her in this way, but there are all kinds of warnings and write ups all over the internet of people with these same symptoms.
Why is this still on the market? This is annoying to think we trust our so called medical field with our lives and they don’t have a brain in their heads especially when treating our children. Thank God for the internet and the information that has been supplied for our needs.
Rachel
I take a birth control pill, Yasmin. When the generic version came out the pharmacy automatically filled it with generic. After about a week on the generic version, I was experiencing hot flashes, irritability and raging. My husband suggested that the generic might be the difference. I went back and paid full price with no insurance discount for the regular Yasmin and was back to normal in about two days.
My doctor said she suspects that the amounts of hormones in generic birth control pills fluctuate more than non-generic, and that these small differences can negatively affect those who are particularly sensitive to hormonal disturbances.
lc
Never would I have believed that a generic could have such SERIOUS side effects — until it happened to me. I had been taking Zoloft on and off for about 7 years with fantastic results. About a year ago I started feeling a bit stressed out, so I decided to go back on a low dose (50mg) of my old pal Zoloft again. My doc initially gave me an RX for a 3-month supply of the brand name, and everything was fine for those 3 months. The pills went up in price quite a bit from when I last took them, so when I went for a refill, I requested the generic to save some money.
Slowly over the past 9 months, my depression has not only come back, but it’s morphed into something worse than it ever was. It started with the occasional panic attack, and has now turned into me not wanting to leave my bed, not having the energy to shower, random suicidal thoughts (which is the scariest part because I don’t want to die AT ALL). The best way to describe the way I feel is like a complete stranger has taken over my body.
Once your brain starts thinking in ways that you don’t really feel, then you know something is DRASTICALLY WRONG. I’ve started the brand name again tonight and I’ll keep you posted with my progress. Please do yourselves a favor: DON’T WAIT! Once you start feeling a bit off or different from how you usually feel, listen to that inner voice and don’t prolong the suffering. Saving a few bucks is not worth possibly losing your life. I normally don’t write in public forums, but this has scared me so much that I just had to warn others.
spf
After a couple of years on Serzone, I found it becoming inaffective. My doctor switched me to Wellbutrin XL. I payed the high deductible for the first year for non-generic medications and saw an improvement in my moods and energy levels. A year later, when the deductible came due, I switched to the generic, Budeprion XL and didn’t make the connection of this and my increased incidences of low energy levels, sporadic sleep, and manic/depressive moments (usually lasting a week). I’m also very sensitive and will cry at very insignificant things. I’m sure this is the reason and the reason I am going to switch back to the real thing.
Jacquelyn H.
I am allergic to SOY.
Every time I take a generic medication I breakout in itchy hives. Do generics contain Soy?
mrped
My wife has COPD and has used the name brand Duoneb inhalation solution for about 6 years with great success. She recently tried the new generic from Mylan Pharmaceuticals. Unlike the Duoneb, the Mylan generic was moderately irritating and within a week she began to become hypoxic with moderate mental confusion. Within days after switching back to Duoneb her condition significantly improved. It appears that the hypoxia due to the Mylan generic permanently affected her condition.
I filed a report w/ the FDA’s MedWatch and sent letters to the key staff & board members of Mylan along with their parent company. I received a cursory reply from Mylan with a request for additional information (that I promptly supplied). After months of no response from Mylan I sent a follow-up letter and have received no response.
Anyone trying this generic…beware. It might be a good idea to keep some Duoneb on-hand as you may need it.
Besides MedWatch, does anyone know another avenue to take in addressing potentially harmful drug issues?
Angie
I was switched to Budeprion XL 300 mg because it is the preferred medication on my Medco insurance. I started taking it and noticed that after taking it I would get a feeling of having a “high” and having lots of energy. Later in the day I would crash and take to my bed.
jrvs
My husband has Bipolar Disorder. We were informed by are pharmacist that the generic equivelent of Depakote was available and he should try it. Well, he did and I could tell the difference right away. He was anxious agitated, etc. Today, I am returning the generic and going back to p/u the brand…it has been doing it’s job for eight years. No more generic meds for my husband. He has been using the brand by Abbott Labs. It’s a winner.
PN
I too had the same reactions as others taking the same generic Budeprion XL made by Teva. Suicidal thoughts, ringing in my ears, headaches, body aches, etc. As soon as I stopped the drug those side effects abated. I discussed this with my Dr. and other friends who are in the field and they discussed that many others as I now see have many adverse reactions with Budeprion XL but While on brand Wellbutrin I do very well with out any side effects. Wellbutrin has helped me tremendously but my insurance company BCBST will only pay for generic budprion.
G. S. E.
I was just put on #142 white tablet by Sun Pharmaceuticals. It is supposed to be the generic for Metformin ER. How can I tell? There is no info but the # 142 on tablet, no manufacturers initials. My pharmacist didn’t know what it was when I had him look at the pill, until I told him it was supposed to be metformin er. Then he looked it up and said it was by Sun. I take 3 a day and in 2 months, I’ll see what my A1C is.
Rebecca P.
I am in the middle of a nightmare after using Wellbutrin XL for about 5 years, my insurance company insisted I try the generic – Buproprion XL. The 1st week was fine, the 2nd week I started losing my short term memory and my concentration and now into my 3rd week I am nervous, agitated, and depressed, too. I tried to get back on the WB but my doctor won’t write the authorization the insurance company requires, nor will he write the new RX for “name brand only”. He doesn’t like insurance companies and refuses to play by “their rules”. So I suffer. Needless to say I am going to a new doctor, but even so the insurance company now won’t pay for my meds until all the Buproprion runs out. It’s hard to cope with this stuff when you already feel so bad. I don’t care what the FDA says, generics are not the same as the name brand.
JZJ
3 wks. ago my pharmacy switched my generic zoloft from Teva to Mylan and I am experiencing waves of depression, insomnia, cloudy thinking; I talked to the pharmacist and they, CVS, are now being sent Mylan instead of Teva; I feel I am being given an ineffective prescription; I have been taking Zoloft since 1995.
JZJ
I have been taking zoloft since 1995; 2 weeks ago my pharmacy, CVS, filled my prescription with the generic brand made by Mylan; I am noticing my depression, tiredness, insomnia returning; the prior generic I used for a long time was made by Teva; Help me get proof that I can take to my doctor that Mylan is different for my body.
CLR
After taking Wellbutrin XL 300 and 150 for several years with great success, my insurance company switched me to the generic form of the 300. Since I had taken generic meds in the past, I thought nothing of it, but it wasn’t long before I started to feel very sad – full of despair. I didn’t make the connection to the switch to generic until I read about this problem in the People’s Pharmacy column. Then the light bulb went off.
I insisted on being put back on the brand and, sure enough, I felt better immediately. At that time, my co-pay for a 90-day supply of the brand was about $200+. Now that Wellbutrin 150 XL has become available in generic, I have refused even to try it for fear of having the same problem. Instead, I am faced with a greatly increased co-pay for that and a co-pay for the 300 XL that has more than doubled to $496 for a 90-day supply. Outrageous! I am grateful for this opportunity to share my experience. Thank you.
DR
Recently I had 5 Heart Stents put into my body, now about 7 weeks later I have the most intense pain between my shoulder blades. Only when sitting, Can Stents cause such pain? Plus I am in permanent A-Fib which i did not have before…..
aimee c.
I to have lived the nightmare of switching from name brand welbutrin xl to the generic form. I had been on the name brand for quite awhile then switched jobs and the insurance won’t pay for name brand. I thought no problem. Wow was I wrong, about 2 weeks out the depression was coming back quickly. Also the not sleeping, weight gain, and body aches. I was to the point of I would rather die than feel like this.
I did get the insurance to cover the name brand but I had to go through an appeals process. Eight months later a new year I pick up my medicine and now they are giving me generic again. I call the insurance co. and find out I can get it but it has to be a 90 day supply. It took a month to get the doctors nurse to call in the correct prescription. I crashed again being off of the medicine totally now. But finally I have the name brand and I am sure I am on my way to feeling better. No one should have to go through this.
DS
This is the first time I’ve ever thoroughly researched this issue, even though I realize the generic Wellbutrin I’ve been taking for almost two years is not the same, regardless of what even the FDA claims. The problem, at least for me, is that I know basically nothing about the science behind the medication, so I have no idea why it’s causing such bad side effects, while the Wellbutrin I took for four years had no side effects. I’m a teacher, and I cannot afford to buy Wellbutrin, because my insurance covers only the generic.
However, I have recently decided, after receiving yet another batch of low-quality generic Wellbutrin pills, that I am willing to pay the enormous price for the brand name Wellbutrin from now on . . . it’s just not worth the side effects experienced when receiving a monthly batch that creates headaches and other physical issues that are NOT (contrary to what lazy researchers at the FDA are saying) a “result of depression itself.” Give me a break.
Not everyone who takes these kinds of medications is out-of-touch with reality and with their bodies. . . most of us are aware that, for whatever reason, the companies that make generic Wellbutrin are getting away with a substandard medication. I feel bad for ALL the people out there who will never be able to afford the brand name Wellbutrin. Even though I now will not be able to add to my savings account each month, because of switching back to the brand name, I know I’m still lucky because there are people who don’t even have that choice.
They just have to continue to suffer, and to know why they’re suffering, while the FDA and others tell them “it’s all in their head.” Shame on those who manufacturers these pills, and shame on the FDA and others for being too lazy to fully research the issue . . . YOU ARE WRONG when you keep claiming these generic drugs for Wellbutrin are the same as Wellbutrin. They are not, and even though I think you are simply uninformed and likely lazy, versus intentionally disregarding the reality, I nonetheless wonder how you’d feel if your child, parent, spouse, etc. were financially forced into this situation, and “the researchers” continued to claim “It’s just your depression that is causing you to think there’s a difference.”
Indeed. Because, clearly, depression retards ALL of one’s faculties to an extent that one cannot trust any gut reaction to a reality. I wish I hadn’t waited two years to finally get fed-up, because now I know I’m one of the millions of generic Wellbutrin users who didn’t report anything, because they knew they had no choice but to take the substandard generic, so why bother? Apathy is dangerous, sad, and unnecessary.
Chris J.
I had trouble with Metoprolol the generic version of Toprol XL also. It made me dizzy and I felt a change in my heartbeat right from the start – I can’t understand why the FDA doesn’t stand by what is right and pull this generic off the market since it has bothered so many people. I didn’t mind trying a generic and would gladly take it if it didn’t effect me so harmfully. I also feel it’s wrong that I have to pay a higher rate for my Toprol XL because this inferior drug is available. What more can we do to get it off the market?
CS
Had been on Protonix 40MG for years and my Gurds was doing fine. The Medco pharmacy (insurance program)switched me to Pantoprazole Sod. Gurds came back. Got a prescription for Protonix 40MG and had it filled Noticed relief in a couple of days. I challenged my self with the generic again and started having problems again. Now Medco tell me that they will not fill a prescription for Protonix under the insurance, but will fill it with a generic omeprazole. I can have it filled if I will pay their full price. This is class substitution.
ERD
If not for http://www.iGuard.org, I would probably still not be aware that my Ethex brand Toprol XL had been recalled. When I called the pharmacy (CVS) they said they knew about it but had “no plan in place as yet”. Then when I went to the pharmacy with pill bottle and a print-out of my iGuard e-mail, they refunded my money (only $5, but that’s not the point!) and said they’d get in touch with my MD. I had seen him just the previous week because of excessive fatigue and other vague symptoms. He cut my dosage in half and told me to check with my cardiologist at my next appt (2/10) about stopping it altogether. So when I saw him yesterday, he agreed I can try stopping it for a while at least. In the meantime, all Toprol XL is on backorder for those who need to stay on it and regular metoprolol is being substituted. The most surprising part of all this is that I was told that the recall was “only to the store level, not the consumer”. In other words, if iGuard.org had not informed me, I would never have known!!
lc
Thank you so much for this site!!! The past month I thought I was crazy. I’ve been taking Metformin for almost a year for PCOS (insulin resistance). In January, I refilled my Rx at Target and after a week or so I noticed problems. My blood sugar started crashing almost daily, I crave sugar all the time, I’m always hungry and tired, ….
I took a good look at the pills and realized they were not the ones I had received before. I looked it up and they are Metformin so I kept taking them. In the past month my blood sugar has crashed more than it has in the past 2 – 3 years. The crash today was so bad, I almost had a coworker call 911, my blood sugar is still low 2 hours, 2 apples and a gallon of oj later.
I did some research and found out that Target changed their Metformin manufacturer from Apotex to Teva. So, I called around to pharmacies until I found that the CVS here uses Apotex. From now on, I will always be mindful of the generic manufacturer.
S.L.
After taking generic Alendronate Sodium (Fosamax), I developed iliac crest pain on about day 4 of the week. I was taking brand name Fosamax for 5 years and had not ever experienced this pain since beginning the Fosamax. The pharmacist says that it cannot be the drug. I had pain in this area before beginning Fosamax. Since the generic just became available, I have tried it 3 different months and all three times with similar results, so the following month I would go back to brand name and no problems. What could this be??
tlp
I have been taking Activella (0.5/1.0) for the past month. This form of HRT as worked swimmingly. I feel like my old self.
Mr GYN had given me several weeks of samples to see how Activella would work for me. Since it does she prescribed it for me…unfortunately my RX plan does not cover this medication (Generic), so I am trying to figure out (at the request of my GYN) the equivalent to Activella (estrdoil/Norethidone)…can anyone suggest what may help and also be available in Generic form? Thank you in advance!
ag
I’m taking a low dose of lacmictal. We tried a larger dose but got side effects (clumsiness). When I switched to the generic I found that I was getting the side effects again. I have solved this by cutting off a quarter of the pill. My doctor says that a 20% variation in quantity of the drug per pill is allowed with generics! For people with epilepsy this can be catastrophic, but for bi-polar it’s manageable.
K. Wells
My problem is with generic Welbutrin made by Achen. My new mail order pharmacy (Prescription Solutions) switched me to this generic and I immediately started having problems. I went through the same dizzy head symptoms as if I was going through coming off of my anti-depressant. Then the melancholy set in and everything has taken a down turn. I have been switched to generics before and have never had a problem until now.
RC
I take Keppra and recently I was switched to Teva’s generic version of 1000mg pills. No sooner than several days after I began taking the generic pills, I had suffered several seizures in several days apart and was forced to have to go back to the name brand of Keppra. Soon I will not even have prescription insurance and then what am I going to do???
Dr. RJ
I wanted to alert anyone taking generic Risperdal that we’re already seeing significant problems with that manufactured by Dr. Reddy in our practice. We’d seen about 50% of people switched to Teva’s generic having problems with symptom relapse, but with Dr. Reddy, it’s been far worse. This has been consistent with our experience with Dr. Reddy’s other generic products to date.
W. Trotman
I have had trouble with a couple of generic medications in the past 10 yrs. The first is recently I was put on generic Vicodan (hydrocodone) made by Amneal Pharmaceuticals after being on the brand name. It was like I was taking a sugar pill but it also made me more irritable as well. In the past I have had horrible experiences with generic Ativan (lorazepam) and will now only take the Brand name. I have been treated by Rite Aid and Walgreen’s pharmacy like I am some kind of a lunatic but with chronic sciatica and generalized anxiety order for over a decade I know good prescriptions from bad and it is the worse feeling when I don’t get relief and in constant pain and no one will listen.
NR
I have been taking generic Wellbutrin, but the name is Bupropion Hcl SR tabs. I commented recently, to my husband, that it seems as though I’m being given placebos because I am so depressed!! It is not constant though. Some days I can barely get out of bed and on other days I feel okay. I don’t know what to make of it!! Have you had reported problems with this particular generic?
Joan M
I had severe allergic reaction to a generic form of Wellbutrin made by Sandoz Pharm. in Oct. 2008. My throat closed up and I had other classic allergy symptoms. Ended up in the hospital. I always did fine on the Brand name Wellbutrin l50.
Jane
My daughter and I both experienced a rude wakeup call when we both were on Zoloft and switched to Sertraline – Teva. It took me 13 days to finally figure out what was wrong with me. This was the worst experience and I wouldn’t wish this on anyone. I didn’t even think twice about taking the generic. I have been paying for Brand necessary ever since. Something needs change with how business is done – you’re playing with peoples lives!
KP
I was diagnosed with depression and put on Wellbutrin XL. The pharmacy filled the script with Budeprion XL and I seemed to be getting better. The pill’s were round very similar to Wellbutrin. I recently switch insurance companies and had my script filled at a local Rite Aid and I noticed the pills were a different shape (oblong instead of round). I started feeling tired and depressed just like I did before I started taking the medication. I also have dizzy spells randomly throughout the day and nausea. To me there is no other explanation of the change other than the medication is some how different. I’m just glad I figured it out before it was too late!
cmh
I just don’t feel that Diliazem XR 180 by mylan is the same as Dilacor XR (I think that was what I had before, it was grey and white) I take it for Atrial Fib more break throughs.
ZH
I had taken Wellbutrin Xl for 6 years and no problems, felt great…normal. I was given the generic and with in the first few days I was feeling different, locking my self in the smallest room in my house, but only after locking all of the other doors to be sure that no one could hear me or help me.
I would cry in my dark locked room for hours on end and I wanted to die. When I did get it together enough to go outside, as I would drive in my car I had one of 2 feelings one was to just keep driving forever until I could wander off in the desert and die or I could hit a light pole or drive off a cliff and die the feelings were so strong and this was only 10 days in on the generics.
I had NEVER felt this way before and my feelings were so intense that I am surprised that I am here today. The only thing that saved me was my internet search, I typed in one simple statement ”Wellbutrin xl generic problems” and I found scores of people that had similar issues. the next morning I tried calling my doc I could not even ask him for a new script of namebrand with out crying so heavily that he could not understand me, he told me to drive straight there.
Now I can barely afford the name brand but what are my choices?? Death, dispair? No I just have to scrape my $100 together to pay for my name brand meds each month.
RJC
My wife switched from Wellbutrin XL 150 mg to Anchen generic XL 150 mg with no negative effects. When I switched from Wellbutrin XL 300 mg to Anchen generic XL 300 mg it was a disaster.
slg
I have been taking Wellbutrin for a long time. There was a time when my health plan insisted upon generics, so I started w/ Bupropion. For months I have felt more ‘down’ than ‘up’. EVERYTHING suffered – work, relationships, even house cleaning. My doctor upped other medications but it made no discernible difference. Then I learned about Budeprion – I checked, and I was taking it rather than Bupropion. I am no ardent believer in medicine – I really didn’t expect any dramatic change. But within a week, I could note a real physical difference. I became organized rather than overwhelmed and unable to do anything. I checked some more – and THANK YOU PEOPLE’S PHARMACY – for advocating re: problems with Budeprion. Actually, you have given me my life back.
gf
I had been taking Toprol XL for several years and I felt great. Six weeks ago I started taking Metotoprolol Succinate and started having severe headaches, blurred vision and felt like my mind was fuzzy. I also wake up in the night nauseated. I did not feel like this when take Toprol. The generic is definitely not the same.
LR
Wellbutrin XL generic is total crap. Not only did it NOT work, it actually made me feel far worse. After a week I was ready to check in to a hospital. I switched over to Wellbutrin SL because I could still get the non-generic but almost instantly there was a generic Wellbutrin SL too. This too did nothing. I went back to the non -generic Wellbutrin XL at this point, with my doctor helping me to make the argument that it made me nauseous and more depressed, but at this point I began having seizures from the medication, In short, BEWARE. Really, really be careful. But the GPA should be ashamed of trying to pass off the generic wellbutrin XL– it is a true, a genuine DISASTER.
Daphne L.
I’ve been taking Adderall for about 10 months & my 1st prescription was the “Brand” name medication. The next few months were generic (still orange pills) & I had no problems, however my last prescription the generic pills were pink & made by a different Mfg. At first it did not bother me, but I have noticed that I’m having difficulty sleeping, my heartbeat is sometimes irregular & my worst nightmare, I’m having difficulty staying focused while driving.
Also my Husband has noticed a difference in me. When I asked the Pharmacist, he said that the formula was indeed different. I called my Doc today & have sent him the remainder of my Rx & he is sending me a new Rx for the “Brand Name” only.
L.D.
Re: Bupropion SR 150mg
I have been on this drug 2x per day for about 10 mos. It seemed to work quite well for the first 7 mos. I told the Dr it wasn’t working anymore and he said,’Then something ELSE is going on”. I don’t sleep well (sleep in spurts and have crazy dreams), and a very bad gag reflex for no reason (to the point of almost dry heaves). The spells of sadness and despair are starting to creep in again. I’ve never tried the name brand but will look into it.
Penny K.
My husband and I have to take oxycodone for our pain. We were both involved in bad accidents. Last month my husband suffered greatly with the taking generic oxycodone 15mg. made by Mallinckodt. They did nothing for his pain, they were good for one thing, constipation. Our Pharmacy gave me the generic name of qualitest which worked fine. This month our Doctor switched us to 30mg. We were due for an increase in mgs., and also felt like maybe we would have better luck with the brands, thinking maybe there won’t be so many!
Well, the warehouses, where the drug stores get their medicine from are going through some kind of cleaning for regulation. We could not find this medication in anywhere, except this one Walgreens. Well I even told the Pharmacist our experience with the Mallinckrodt brand, but we got it anyway! Well they are terrible, just awful.
They make us feel very sick. Walgreens now tell this was and is all they have. The brand is the worst brand I have ever taken! What I don’t understand is, when I looked on the computer, I found that this company has two different colored pills out, one light blue, and one light green. They appear to be exactly the same. Why are all these inferior generic drugs being made, and why two colored of the same strength?
Jennifer
I have been on a drug called Lorazapham for years for anxiety. My Dr decided to put me on Buderion hoping to get me off Lorazapham. It really didnt make sense to me. Lorazapham is for anxiety and as far as I know Buderion-generic for Welbutrin is for depression. Anyway four days on this was a nightmare. No sleep, very nervous, shaky, irritated at the slightest thing and no appetite. Like I felt like I could of jumped out of my body.
If you have anxiety I wouldn’t recommend this at all. It makes you more nervous then anything. My Dr feels I should still take it. Ive decided I know my body better and looking for a new Dr. Through experience just because a Dr thinks or feels you should take this or do that they are not always right. Hope this helps someone with anxiety.
amr
Was switched to a generic of Wellbutrin xl 300mg after having adverse reactions. My pharm. spec. ordered generic by Watson, Mfr Danbury and was EXACTLY same as brand. My insurance switched me to Eon Labs mfg by Sandoz. Has anyone else had adverse (or non working) experience? Does not work for me and I gave it 10 days. Am I the only one?
Diane T.
I have taken wellbutrin XL for many years. when I got my prescription a week ago, my pharmacy gave me budeprion XL, and told me that it is exactly the same, that a company bought out the company, and now the name is different. I was skeptical, because I had a problem before, when the pharmacy changed another drug on me, and I had a bad reaction. I soon forgot about it, and have been taking it.
I have been feeling horrible, agitated, depressed, I want to beat up some one, my heart is beating irregular, then it hit me, I’ve been taking the budeprion XL for little over a week. I started investigating on the pc, and was relieved to see that many others have had the same experience. Something has to be done, our lives are too important, to have them disrupted, or worse.
jam
I have been on oxycontin 40m twice a day for around 4 years now, I started off getting the brand name oxycontin, but about a year ago when I went to get my rx the pills looked different so I read the pamplet and realized they gave me oxycodone (generic oxycontin) because of my insurance. I made a doctor’s appointment and explained to the doctor that the pills made me very sick to my stomach and didn’t take away my pain and that I wanted the brand name back, he told me that generic and brand name are exactly the same medicines and that I would have to remain on it.
I have been in pain and sick to my stomach for almost a year now, I have been on several different generic brands of this med: dava, mallingkroot, etc., none of them work…they are not the same at all they seem to be a placebo. I made a doctor’s appt about 2 weeks ago and begged my doctor to put me on brand name only and he said he had no problem doing that, I got the rx from him brought it to the pharmacy and they said that my insurance co. won’t pay for this without a prior approval first, I had to contact my doctor again and he had to send a prior approval to the insurance company. I waited 8 days with no medicine, for them to figure this all out and get an approval, it never happened.
I finally broke down after 8 days with no pain meds and got the generic meds…now I have to get a new doctors appt before my next rx is due and start all of this over again and pray that I can get brand name only, even thought it is going to cost my a lot of money each month for this.
I have also been on Serax for anxiety for 20 years now, these capsules were always orange and white, a couple of years ago my pharmacy mailed me ones that were yellow and white and they were generic, they did not work at all, I didn’t sleep and was very anxious all the time, like I had not taken any meds at all. When I got the orange ones back, I slept and my anxiety was gone, then it happened again,they came and the were green and white, same thing, they were generic and didn’t work, at all. I have also had this experience with other generic meds, I keep being told they are the same ingredients that is BULL****. they are not the same. Thanks for listening.
RJC
I have bipolar disorder and have been on Teva Budeprion XL 300 mg for several years and recently on Teva generic lamotrogine 50 mg for several months. I have noticed no mood swings whatsoever in either case when I switched from brand Wellbutrin and Lamictal to these generics. However, I did experience negative physical reactions with the Anchen generic buproprion and had to discontinue it.
There is another complicating factor at play that some may not be aware of. It is possible, at least theoretically, that the same dose of brand and generic may not work for you but a different dose of the generic may work for you. I do know from personal experience that I responded differently between 150 mg of Wellbutrin and 300 mg of Wellbutrin. I was belligerent on 150 mg but this all went away when I went to 300 mg. I also found out that increasing dosage of both Lamictal and generic lamotrogine from 50 mg to 100 mg had no effect whatsoever on my mood. So I went back to 50 mg.
Bottom line is that brand, different brands of generic, and dosage of either brand or generic may or may not cause you to react differently. Everyone is different.
bbqking
long story short. i have no insurance. I’m a student. the state pays for my meds. they have now only authorized generics. i am sensitive and have been on every type of wellbutrin over the last 7 years. I’m currently taking achen/teva’s generic for 150 xl it’s the worst pill of them all! how do i get name brand wellbutrin for less than 5$ each pill. i can get scripts but don’t know where to get these pills at a price i can pay.
PEOPLE’S PHARMACY RESPONSE: YOU WILL NEED YOUR DOCTOR’S HELP WITH THIS CHALLENGE. S/HE WILL NEED TO CERTIFY “MEDICALLY NECESSARY” AND HELP YOU WITH THE APPLICATION TO THE PATIENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM: https://www.pparx.org/Intro.php
BWhite
Following a diagnosis of prepartum depression in 2002, my Dr. prescribed Wellbutrin (one of the only safe antidepressants). I was GREAT on it, and soon after my daughter was born, recovered. Went off for about 2 years, and then starting feeling blue again. Got new prescription for Wellbutrin, and started feeling like me again- energy, not depressed etc. A few months ago I was switched to budeprion (Teva) and started going crazy. Insomnia, extreme weight gain (30 lbs over 6 months), thoughts of suicide, no energy, mad all the time. After reading all of these posts – I will switch back to Wellbutrin on Monday!
Thank you thank you thank you for providing this service, otherwise, I never would have known!
Judith C
Two years ago my medical insurance changed and my psychopharmacologist decided to try the generic Wellbutrin XL 300mg. Within three weeks I could feel the difference. I had been on the medication for a long time and never had any changes until that time. He put me back on the Brand and with a week, I was back to normal. My old insurance company accepted the medical necessity and charged the regular co-pay
This past fall, I had to once again change insurance carriers. I specifically asked about the coverage for the brand and was told it would be handled the same way it was at my prior plan.
Ha! I am now paying $125 a month instead of $45, but I am fighting. I cannot go with out the meds and I think that insurance companies should be ashamed. Not only do they not care, but they also think that they know better than the prescribing doctors how much medication is needed.
It is quite obvious that the lack of effectiveness of the brand is not a simple matter and while it may vary from person to person, it does not alter the fact that for some people, the generic just does not work!
M. Lernhart
I have been taking Wellbutrine XL 300 for about two years and feeling great. A new insurance company forced me to take the generic version or pay dearly for the name brand. After only four days taking the generic I feel terrible, agitated, and depressed. I also feel physically sick, nauseated, dizzy and fuzzy. It is disgusting the way companies like Medco will risk peoples lives to save a buck and make CEOS wealthy.
ap
Interestingly, I seem to be okay with the Teva generic ‘equivalent’ for Wellbutrin XL but *not* with the Watson generic. My last refill was a mix of the two, I guess b/c the pharmacy was low on the Teva. (I think it’s Teva anyway… white round pills imprinted with ‘A101’.)
I started with the Watson (white round pills, imprinted with ‘WPI 3331’) b/c it was on the top of the bottle, this was the week before Christmas. I started experiencing a remarkable apathy, turning to oh-so-familiar depression. Thought it was due to holidays, etc. but eventually, after a week and a half maybe, made the connection between when the funk started and when I started taking the Watson generics. That day I started taking the other generics instead and felt better pretty much immediately (helped, I’m sure, by Teva’s too-rapid release rate). Now it’s a couple weeks later and I’m out of the good-generic again and stuck with the bad-generic. It’s totally ineffective, in fact I feel worse taking that than I do when I take nothing.
My pharmacist is special ordering the generic I can tolerate — if I stick with brand name my co-pay goes through the roof — and I’ve got one more day to tough it out.
But let me say this… this is a dangerous situation and one that should not be handled in this haphazard way by both pharmacists and insurance companies — especially the insurance companies! I’ve been treating my depression for years now and have a good handle on what to do when things go wrong like this, but even for me this is hell. I’ve had suicidal ideations, the whole deal. Thoughts I haven’t had for years now. Something must be done about this.
Michelle N.
I don’t know about all meds, but I can explain why a generic didn’t work for me. I have Narcolepsy, so I take an amphetamine to stay awake. I have been taking a generic of Dexedrine, called Dextrostat, for 11-12 yrs. Not a problem at all. There was, though, an episode in 2002 that taught me much about meds. and their generics.
I was a bit confused when I was informed that my med, which was a generic, now actually had it’s own generic. Comical, yes! I had to find out the hard way. The bottom line is, I had my RX filled at a diff. pharmacy due to working late, & the pharm. sub. it with a generic of the generic that I was taking. It caused mu blood pressure to soar!
My Doctor had it chemically analyzed, and to my amazement, the only difference was a red dye. When companies say their compound is exactly the same, I believe they are referring to the active ingredients, not much attention is paid to the inactive ingredients. In my case, it was the red dye that I was having a reaction to.
The only thing more that I have to say is: To fully understand why a med. and it’s generic do not work the same for you, they should be chemically analyzed. Then & only then, will you begin to understand what is creating the problem. Believe me, it could be as simple as Red Dye #5. It was for me!!! I posted this hoping it will help someone out there. Sincerely, Michelle
craig, durham
Over the counter generic omeprazole DR by Dexcel Ltd. purchased at WalMart does not work, or works less effectively in reducing stomach acid than brand Prilosec. I have made two tests of the generic medication as compared to Prilosec, and I am convinced there’s a difference. The WalMart pharmacist told me the caplets might contain the indicated 20mg dose of omeprazole, but the delivery system might account for the difference.
This jives with what I found on a web search. Omeprazole is destroyed by stomach acid, and an enteric coating in Prilosec allows the medication to get through the stomach and get absorbed by the intestines. I suspect the coating is defective in the generic omeprazole caplets. I made a report to http://www.fda.gov medwatch on Jan 19, 2009.
D.Whitney
I have problems with reflux, night time regurgitation with aspiration. Was on Prilosec which was working well. Insurance Co. decided that the generic Omeprazol would work just as well…Had regurgitation with aspiration and am forced to buy over the counter Prilosec and regulate the dosage…The Omeprazol did not work for me.!!
Hayne Mcmeekin MD
I am a psychiatrist and have a great deal of problems with the new generic lamotrigine. The batches are not uniform and some patients report withdrawal and return of symptoms. Patients also have complained of memory problems especially with naming.
Chris
I was switched by the Pharmacy from Yasmin to Ocella.
I noticed that my scalp itched but I attributed that to dry skin in the winter.
Then a nasty rash broke out on my hand. Didn’t think anything of it.
When the rash spread to my thighs, legs, under my arms and under my breasts, I knew something had to be wrong. What did I change in two weeks that could have caused this?
THE BIRTH CONTROL GENERIC.
I stopped it right away and am now waiting for the rash to subside.
DO NOT TAKE OCELLA. Stick to the regular pill.
Jacqueline
I was placed by my doctor on Wellbutrin XL 150 several years ago with great results. I had previously tried Zoloft, Celexa & several other anti-depressants with no helpful results. The last time I received my refill the Budeprion generic had been substituted by my pharmacy on the directive of my insurance carrier.
I began almost immediately to feel, once again, anxious, irritable and depressed. I thought I was imagining it until I looked at this website & saw that I am not alone. I am going to insist on the brand name first thing tomorrow when I call my doctor’s office. Hopefully, that will fix the problem. I still have the NEGATIVE side-effects that I had from the Wellbutrin XL 150 such as loss of memory and loss of sexual appetite but with very minimal positive results, if any.
Amy
I am having problem with the new generic form of “Yasmin” It’s called ociella. I googled the drug and found that many women are having difficulties.
sjm
The generic Tramadol 50mg that is coming from Medco is now manufactured by APOTEX. It absolutely does not work for me. I have older Tramadol by Teva and a round pill by another manufacturer that work well, and have switched back and forth to test my theory. Now what?
E.G.
My insurance company forced me to switch to Generic Wellbutrin about 2 months ago. I take 150mg a day, and it has worked great for 6 years now. I thought nothing of it, but after a month of taking the generic, I was less motivated, not sleeping well, experiencing disorganized thinking, anxiety, hopelessness, and headaches.). I know 2 other people who have had similar complaints after switching to the generic version. We should not be forced to pay a higher co-pay for the brand name when the generic brand is ineffective!
mcc
The pharmacist gave me generic for Percocet – Roxicet – which I have been taking for stress headache and fibromyalgia. She didn’t even ask me if I wanted the generic. They were out of the name brand. I couldn’t get it changed. They said I would have to get another rx from my doctor! They didn’t even ask me if I wanted the generic. It DOES NOT work for me. They acted like I was crazy because it was exactly the same med. If it was – why am I not feeling any relief?
GCS
I took 10 mg Zocor daily for approx. 12 years and had no problems of any kind. About 14 months ago I began to get the generic simvastatin made by Dr Reddy’s lab and soon after developed sever abdominal pains and generally major digestive problems. I had many tests and the Dr’s could find nothing.
I quit the simvastatin and within a week the mentioned symptoms disappeared completely. I attribute the problem to fillers used in the Dt. Reddy generic simvastatin. Has anyone else had this same problem?
R.D.K.
Wow, with all the negative comments about Budeprion it makes you wonder if Wellbutrin folks were flooding the site to up their sales. Certainly does sound scary. Just so everyone knows, there is another side, I was switched from Wellbutrin to Budeprion just like everyone else, and have really felt no different. But, the comments here have certainly given me pause to think about it and monitor my feelings more closely.
CCB
Since switching from name brand Wellbutrin to Teva’s generic 300 XL I have been experiencing vertigo and headaches and the positive effects I had with the name brand have gone away. I am desperately trying to get in touch with my doctor and I hope I’m not doing any harm by stopping taking the med, but I can’t deal with the side effects.
michelle
on toprol xl 50mg. 2 days ago my insurance switched me to metoprolol succinate. I’ve been extremely fatigued and resting heart rate is 115. There is a huge difference.
JR
Trazodone by Pilva
Potency is not consistent. It is evident with each re-fill if you get a substandard dosage. I take this to aid sleep, so when this happens, it is a nightmare!
ieb
I took name brand Zoloft on and off for 14 years and when I first went on it in 1993 and every time I’ve gone BACK on since then it has always worked for me predictably and wonderfully. At some point after the generic was introduced I was switched to that. I didn’t think I noticed any difference at the time, but it may have not been the TEVA generic and in addition, my depressions from the time I was 16 until I first went on Zoloft at 36 were episodic.
I even went almost a year without taking Zoloft in the 90’s and was okay up until I felt I needed to go back on it again. So when I was switched to the generic I very well may have been okay for a time without Zoloft at all. Well, fast forward to early November, after being off meds altogether for a number of months and doing “okay”, I took a serious nosedive due I believe to stress, the shorter days and oncoming holidays.
I went to see my primary care physician and she prescribed Zoloft for me again. I got my prescription filled at Walmart and it was the Teva generic. When it didn’t work as quickly as I needed it to and had known it to in the past, I ended up in the hospital for 9 days. Here we are on New Year’s Eve after having the dosage titrated up to 200mg. and at some point my newly appointed psychiatrist (hadn’t had to have one since 1993) added Wellbutrin as augmentation (again Teva Bupropion) and still no real success.
In fact, I think the Bupropion caused anxiety. Any slight improvement I may have thought I felt was probably circumstantial and maybe just getting used to feeling depressed. I’m going to get an RX for name brand Zoloft from my Pdoc asap and pray that it works as effectively as it has in the past.
J.
My insurance stopped covering brand name Zoloft, so I tried the generic. I immediately noticed a difference. I became paranoid, especially when trying to fall asleep at night. I felt like I was dieing while going to sleep. It was quite awful, and reminded me of when I tried Prozac, which did not work for me at all. Now I have to pay out of pocket for brand name Zoloft, over $100 month. Generics are not equal.
sjf
I have taken generic ritalin 20 mg. up to 3 per day. Most commonly, by Geneva labs. I thought I simply developed a tolerance of it. Then one refill, I went to a different pharmacy that dispenses Danbury. Oh Wow. I went home and cleaned the basement I had been just sighing and procrastinating that whole summer. Still, Danbury doesn’t quite equal Ritalin. I suspect this: Although I am an adult, most of this is prescribed for children who wouldn’t know the difference. But I do. Somebody at the lab is sneaking the real thing out the back door to sell on the black market.
Rebow
I had been on generic sertraline for years by Greenstone. Then I switched pharmacies recently in order to receive a free gift card. The new pills were by Teva. I felt happier than ever until after that bottle ran out I transferred the ‘script back to my original pharmacy that dispenses the Greenstone generic sertraline. For some reason this time I was nauseous, dizzy and cold. I had to stop taking the Greenstone sertraline and ask for Teva again. If that doesn’t do it I’ll ask my MD for the brand name Zoloft.
I believe there are differences between manufacturers AND even individual refills by the same manuf. can differ.
DK
I’ve been taking Bupropion XL 300MG for awhile now and have noticed that I seem to be fighting depression and have had suicidal thoughts lately. When I was first prescribed Wellbutrin XL in 2006 it was like a cloud had been lifted, my depression was dramatically improved! Now with the generic I am struggling again….I thought it was just me. In fact I was self loathing and couldn’t figure out why I couldn’t just get my emotional act together. Needless to say, I am picking up the name brand Wellbutrin on the first day my insurance will allow which is three days from now.
I don’t care if I have to pay a lot more because getting rid of depression is invaluable. I’m really scared and sorry for those people out there who have to suffer because their generic medication is not working! It’s a crime, and the companies that sell these should take action against this immediately.
jpd
My experience with generic Buproprion Wellbutrin was horrible. THey gave me SR wellbutrin generic inspite of the fact that i requested the brand name of wellbutrin xl but everyone claims that there is no difference. I developed allergic reaction after one dose. Terrible huh?
I wish that I was not on Medicaid. They did a horrible job of providing my drug for me. This is hell. Teva labs is responsible for making that crap drug called Wellbutrin generic SR. IT HAS ALLERGIC REACTION WITH POTENTIAL DANGER WRITTEN ALL OVER IT.
Gerry
Reading your columm in the L.A. Times, 12/22/08 regarding “Coughing over Ace inhibitors” prompted me to comment. I had the exact same experience with the same ACE inhibitors as that person.
I mean the EXACT same experience. I rarely coughed before but did badly after taking ACE inhibitor. A pharmacist said it won’t go away–I should take a different blood pressure drug. My doctor gave me, Cozaar” and it stopped the coughing immediately, and has no side affects (for me). It also brought my blood pressure down to normal. It’s been 3 years and I’m completely satisfied. (the only side affect is the price).
G.O.
JC
Neurontin-
I have been on the generic Neurontin (manufactured by Teva) for almost a year, without any problems. Then, I received a generic by a different manufacturer (Sandoz); I had headaches, nausea and sleep problems. When I switched back to Teva (or brand) the headahces, nausea and sleep disturbances went away.
CHen
I too had the bout with the Wellbutrin XL 300 generic after the total hell and several trips to the doctor we realized it. I asked at the pharmacy and they said they had very few that couldn’t take it. Well last Feb I started taking Lamicial 200 daily. Everything was fine. I too last month got the generic made from you guessed it TEVA and went through the hell for the last 5 weeks. My insurance will not refill until about 6 more weeks in the mean time I am trying 1 at night and 1/2 in the morning, it is not working. It is such a relief that I am not the only one having this problem. I’m a crawl in a hole type person.
Thank God for letting me find this website.
CHen
KT
I had been taking the birth control pill Orthocyclen 28 for many years when I was automatically switched by MA regulations to the generic, Sprintec. That year I started breaking out in hives at regular intervals, several weeks apart. After a severe outbreak all over my body, with biopsies that showed ‘hypersensitivity disorder, unknown cause’, my doctor and I wondered if, because of the regular nature of the outbreaks, it could be related to the generic pill.
I went back to Orthocyclen with no substitutions — paying enormously higher prescription prices because I was refusing to use an ‘equivalent generic’ — and these hives never appeared again.
I take Orthocyclen in part to control a condition where my external genitalia begin to shrink and become very painful. Through a prescription mixup, I was at a later time given Sprintex again instead of Orthocyclen, and had to use it for two weeks until I could get Orthocyclen again.
During this time, my exernal genitalia began to shrink and become painful again even though I was still using estrogen medication, as had happened before I began using the estrogen. When I returned to Orthocyclen, the condition reversed itself and returned to a stable state.
In another case, I was suffering a minor runny nose that I thought might be from allergy to mildew, and my friend gave me a pill she said was ‘Claritin’, but which turned out to be a claritin generic (I don’t know whether from CVS, Walgreens, or some other standard chain). Within a few hours I had painful hives burst out on my wrist and lower back. When I got hold of brand name Claritin and took some, the hives stopped expanding, stopped itching, and started to heal.
On several occasions, I have taken CVS generic pseudophedrin and developed a crusty yellow skin condition around my nostrils. If I take brand name pseudophedrin, I have never had this occur.
RE
I always start off with name brand samples I get from my doctor. When it’s time for met to get the Rx filled I get the generic and it never works the same, so I go back to the name brands. EX. Ultram, Wellbutrin XL, Paxil CR, Synthroid, Glucophage XR, Ambien, just to name a few. They are not the same! If one element is different then it isn’t the same thing! It might be the one different element that makes it work with the others. I think we should take generics off the market.
Shannon M.
My joints have become increasingly stiff, swollen and painful after being on Levothyroxine for three weeks. I was prescribed to this medication because it has been discovered that I have an underactive thyroid. I’ve never been like this before-what should I do? I am tempted to quit taking the Levothyroxine because I’m hurting so bad. What should I do?
PEOPLE’S PHARMACY RESPONSE: PLEASE CONTACT YOUR DOCTOR. THIS IS NOT USUALLY A SIDE EFFECT OF LEVOTHYROXINE BUT IS SOMETIMES A SYMPTOM OF THYROID INFLAMMATION (THYROIDITIS).
RYH
I’m not sure if I had a problem with a generic drug or not. After reading I thought I would submit a hypothesis, in hopes that something may pop. I had weight loss surgery years ago and had a healthy baby afterwards naturally. After several more years of trying for another child we sought out fertility support and were prescribed Chlomid. I asked if the weight loss surgery would in any way inhibit the drug to properly stimulate ovulation and was told no, however after reading that some of the issues with generic drugs may be related to the time-release or absorption rate of the drug, I am starting to wonder. We were given the generic drug clomiphene citrate.
If there is any news on this I would appreciate the heads up. Given we’ve stopped aggressively attempting a pregnancy, it’s more to satisfy my curiosity than a solution.
Cindy
I am having a problem with the generic version of Vicodin made by Mallinkrt Pharmaceuticals with M357 on the tablet. I have taken generic versions of this medication numerous times, but this is the 1st time I have been given this particular brand. It has always worked well for me until now. I feel like I am crazy, but it is like taking nothing. Have you had any other reports on this? I am in extreme pain all of the time. Taking this is useless. Thank you.
TL
I have taken Wellbutrin XL 300 for several years, as others reported. My doctor said the generic would be the same. I’ve had the worse depressive state. It started with crying, withdraw, lack of interest but quickly lead to wishing I would die – and considering suicide. My husband read an article about this drug not being affective as a generic -the time release was timed differently. We had to pay full price for two weeks of the name brand, but we did it. I’m starting to return to normal, and not a moment too soon. This is a dangerous situation. The insurance companies are forcing generics that don’t work – and it could make the difference between life and death.
spb
I have been taking Requip since being diagnosed via exam and sleep study for the last 3 years. About 3 months ago i had to get a new prescription and the doctor did not specify the brand so Next Rx sent me a 90 day supply of the generic ropinirole. I was not aware that i did not receive the brand when i started feeling at night that the medication was not working as well as it had. i felt more antsy and did not get as good a nights sleep.. so i noticed the generic, called doctor and the company and had to pay again for the brand, requip. Next Rx said no one else had problems with the generic (which i would strongly doubt). thanks for conducting this survey.
BES
I took generic Ativan for several years because of agoraphobia and panic disorder. However, my insurance company switched suppliers and began getting their generic Ativan from another source. I didn’t know this until I took the first pill from the “new” supplier and had a massive panic attack. I went back to brand name Ativan and have not had a problem since. The pharmacist tells me that while the active ingredients in generic are the same as the name brand medication, various fillers can be very different and can cause problems with people like me who are chemically sensitive.
Ron P
My daughter has Lupus & Epilepsy and has been taking Keppra, Klonopin & Lamictal. Her carrier is Molina. They have now switched her from the Keppra to a generic Keppra. She started having seizures the first day. We have called to complain but have only gotten the run around. Are there any lawyers who could help us? We live in Michigan.
v
I have experienced decreased efficacy on the generics for both of these drugs:
Synthroid– After being on the generic for 2 years, my PCP suggested I try the brand; the difference was immediate and amazing: It feels very “smooth” and as if I am not on medication that my body is “working”; before I would notice shifts and changes throughout the day.
Vicodin: For years I have used this generic (hydrocordone) for chronic back pain and I have used different generics of this depending on the pharmacy where I filled it, and had noticed a big difference with one of them working much better than the others; so I recently tried the brand and found I have much fewer side effects than on the generics.
Erin
I was taking the wellbutrin 150 XL and it was working great…then the medicine switched to generic and they gave me budeprion. I became manic immediately and so my doctor told me to cut it in half. I tried that and it helped some however it really hurt my stomach to cut it in half. so my insurance company medicare may pay for brand name if I try another manufacturers generic wellbutrin. I will have to wait and see. I am not opposed to trying another generic wellbutrin but I don’t have high hopes. This is really disheartening that the fda doesn’t do something about this.
JLM
I have been taking generic Celexa from Aurobindo with no problem, and my pharmacy switched to Dr. Reddy brand. I thought I was having a stroke after taking the Dr. Reddy brand- I became so dizzy and flushed that I thought about going to the ER.
Ernie V
I have been taking Remeron for insomnia and depression for several years, with good results. The medication resolved my insomnia completely with no side effects. When I became aware that there was a generic available, mirtazapine, I began taking it due to its costs savings. I took the generic for a few months also with good results. Suddenly, about two years ago, the generic stopped working. The insomnia returned full force. I thought I might have gotten a bad batch of generic meds, so I tried purchasing the medication from several different locations, but continued getting the same bad results. After a couple of months I returned to purchasing the name brand Remeron meds, at triple the price of the generic. Since taking the name brand Remeron once again I’ve been experiencing excellent results. The generic DOES NOT WORK THE SAME.
d martin
I was taken lortab 10/500 for car wreck , back pain. Worked fine, i had been taken the brand watson, then, not knowing the difference had a script filled at target, went into withdrawals, they had given me mallinkrot (spell) terrible, they would NOT switch it out had to be in bad shape for a month, sweating, pain, horrible!!! NOW i will only get watson, of course all the pharms treat me like a drug addict for asking “since it’s all the same” But believe me it’s not even close to the same, every thing is now ok , back with watson brand. I have also noticed generic ambien is no good!
C. Dobson
I have been taking the anti-arrhythmic drug, propafenone HCI for several months, now.
At first, I used it only when I had an episode. I finally regulated on it in August
During August, my drug store was moving and I had to obtain it from another pharmacy.
(The following month, I resumed getting the drug at my usual drug store. it was made by another manufacturer.)
I felt awful that month, dizzy, tired, nauseous etc. but I figured the side effects might be temporary and I wanted to give it a fair trial.
Now, in mid-November I get a letter from said pharmacy, telling me there was a voluntary recall in place because the lot number of the prescription I had contained DOUBLE the amount of medication in it.
Since I finished up that bottle nearly three months ago, a “recall” is hardly helpful. Anti-arrhythmic drugs in and of themselves can be dangerous.
I phoned the drug store and asked why it took them three months to notify me. I was told the had just gotten the recall information the previous week.
This is how people die. I want to file some sort of formal complaint.
The recalled generic was manufactured by ETHEX corporation, incidentally.
Deborah
Have been on generic Ziac (bisoprolol fumarate/HCTZ)10mg/6.25mg for 10years- no problems well controlled BP until I went to Giant Eagle Pharmacy because they offer 90 day supply for $10, thought I would try them & save money. After taking the generic EON brand, my BP went significantly higher, my normal was in the 110-120 over 70-80 range, all of a sudden it was 160/100!, I felt terrible, headache, squeezing sensation in chest & throat, thought I was having a heart attack( I had one 10 yrs ago). I told my doctor that I thought it was the generic med. he wrote a new RX and I took it to another pharmacy and started it. By the second day ALL the symptoms were gone & the BP was back to normal. This is a definite example that all generics are not the same. I could’ve died if I would’ve continued on that generic brand. All generics are not created equal.
GB
Yes I just posted, but went back and found the bottle of budiprion I’d stopped taking. Alarmingly, and I don’t remember doing it, I had written on the bottle, probably the night I realized my problems were from this med. It says, “Help! This needs analysis!” I don’t remember even writing that!! The manufacturer is TEVA, the pills are round, yellowish-white (bottle description just says “Round, Yellow” Also has engraved (vs. embossed) capital letter “G” on one side and numbers 2444 on the other. Think I may contact an attorney tomorrow.
GB
I have been taking a form of generic Wellbutrin SR for years without difficulty. Walgreens switched to a different generic. I’ve been a R.N. for 16 yrs. and felt something wasn’t right just looking at the pills, and the generic name said budiprion, not buproprion. I thought it was a typo, but took it anyway. For several days I had crying spells, felt suicidal, finally told my husband that I’d been having thoughts of stabbing him, and just at that moment, realized how crazy I was, and said then and there, “It’s that new medicine they gave me!”
I stopped taking it immediately, and by the day after the next, I was fine. I’ve saved the bottle, but have been quiet. Then last Tuesday, I read an article in the Oct.13,’08 Newsweek about problems with generic Wellbutrin. I’m going to look up the pill ID, see if I can find out more. It’s unbelievable that this can happen. I can’t believe how many others have had such similar symptoms. Does anyone know of any pattern in terms of manufacturers? This is crazy!! I immediately switched pharmacies back then. Am planning on Calling my MD in a.m. to tell him.
LKZ
Last year, I was switched from Zoloft 50 mg to the generic form. After about 6 weeks to 2 months, all my symptoms of anxiety and panic reappeared. These remained for about 6 months while my doctor and I increased the generic dosage, until I ended up on 100mg. I also had to go back on Klonopin for a few weeks, which I had not needed for years. A very discouraging set back that I feel would never had happened if the generic worked as well as it should.
Sandra A.
I have been taking Wellbutrin XL for about 3 years off and on. In January 2008 I switched to the generic form. For 9 long months I endured panic attacks and insomnia along with extreme anxiety not knowing what was causing this. We didn’t believe it was the generic Wellbutrin as I have reacted well to Wellbutrin XL for so long. This was the worst 9 months of my life. Panic attacks that caused extreme anxiety plus insomnia. These panic attacks were so horrifying I ended up in the ER one day.
In September 2008 I was surfing the net and came upon an article on MSN.com regarding generic Wellbutrin and what it was doing to some patients. One particular Woman described my symptoms exactly. The horrifying panic attacks, the loss of breath and the anxiety.
I had spent 9 awful months experiencing Panic attacks at least twice a week, if not more and here was this random article telling me exactly what was wrong with me. Needless to say, I stopped taking the generic Wellbutrin and switch to the name brand immediately and the panic attacks are gone! It really angers me that this is allowed to happen. Had I not stumbled across this article, I would have continued taking this medication and still be experiencing those daily attacks…… The public must be warned ~ nobody should experience what I did.
AR
This past summer I also had a horrible reaction to the generic for Wellbutrin XL 300! I thought i was the only one and now reading these I feel like I need to share my experience. I was taking Wellbutrin when BCBS stopped covering it so I switched to the generic. I have two children and after a week of taking it I had the worst reaction. I was suddenly very depressed (like suicide) and very easily agitated.
It was so bad that my husband had to take me to the Texas Med Clinic so they could give me a shot. I am uncertain of the name of the shot but it was basically a tranquiler. I slept it off but never used the generic again. I had no idea so many people had the same side effects! The pharmacy and even my Dr. were acting like there was no difference and that I was crazy for having this experience. Thank you everyone for sharing. I hope the FDA does something about this before someone does hurt someone or themselves on this medicine.
C Fretwell
I had been taking Activella 1mg/0.5mg for some time (to control my hormones levels, since I have had postmenopausal bleeding), when my insurance company decided that since a generic had become available, I would be required to take it. Not thinking anything of it, I began taking the Estradiol/Norethindrone Acetate tablets at the beginning of August 2008. By mid-October I was bleeding so heavily that I called my Drs. office with fears of cancer.
I was told to come get a packet of Activella from them. Within a week of resuming the Activella, my bleeding subsided, and within 2 weeks, it stopped completely. Now I guess I’m stuck with paying the higher price for the medication that actually works. This really sucks!
Sarah K
I have been taking the generic form of Zocor for several years with no problems. My latest RX was produced by a different manufacturer and about a month ago I began experiencing muscle and joint pain, called my drug provider who gave me the name and phone no. of the manufacturer, “Dr. Reddy’s” whom I called to find out where this drug was produced. I was told it was in India under FDA guidlines and that none of the ingredients came from China.
I have stopped taking Simvastatin, called my MD who said I probably had a pinched nerve! I know what that feels like and that is not what I have. I am quite upset by all of this and intend to stay healthy – probably did not even need the statin just weight loss and change of diet with exercize. I will also provide this information to the FDA.
Thank you!
Jason B
I’ve been on Toprol XL 5omg for high blood pressure for ten years. I recently switched to try the new generic, metotoprol. Absolutely terrible. My heart started racing, blood pressure went up and I just didn’t feel right. Within a day of getting back on the real Toprol, I felt fine. Funny thing is that the real Toprol is only like $4 more. I would not recommend taking the generic.
JA
My doctor prescribed SEASONALE oral contraceptives for me. With Seasonale you only get 1 period every 13 weeks. It was prescribed for various problems I was experiencing during my period.
The first month I received a generic called Quasense. I used it and had little to no period during week 13.
My next refill was filled with a generic called Jolessa. My period at that 13 week mark was horrible. I had abdominal and back cramps, a heavy period, several migraines, PMS etc…
I told my doctor. She wrote the script for Quasense and this time I had no issues. Two generics for the same drug that work completely different for me.
Steve
This is in response to Diane S. who posted on Nov. 22nd re: Wellbutrin XL. Would you know the manufacturer of the generic you took? It seems that the TEVA brand is the one that causes problems for most people. I have been taking the Watson generic for Wellbutrin XL, after having used the brand name, and have found no problem. Perhaps it would be worth it moneywise for you to call some pharmacies and see who carries what manufacturer of generic Wellbutrin XL, and get a small script from your doctor for a generic and try a generic made by a company other than the one you tried. If it works, you can save yourself a lot of money.
Diane S.
Wellbutrin XL has been a good drug for me. When I got my mail order pills one time late last year, insurance had switched to generic. I didn’t think anything of it. Years ago I had been switched from brand Prozac to the generic and didn’t have a problem. I also take another medication that is generic – and no matter the manf, I don’t have a problem.
About a week into taking the generic for Wellbutrin XL, I was crying and unable to work – I suddenly realized that maybe it was the medication change. I made notes of the symptom changes, number of days on the generic, etc. Then, immediately went back to brand Wellbutrin XL and within 3 days, I was back to normal. My doctor then prescribed “no substitution.” I switched jobs 6 months ago – the new insurance plan charges $440 for a 90 pill supply of Wellbutrin XL. Unbelievable! If I could take the generic and function, I would!
PM
took generic celebrex (came from Europe) and arthritis in my fingers became so very painful. I switched back to brand name and pain was controlled again. There is no generic for celebrex in U.S.I have been able to take generic in other medicines and was ok. My husband’s doctor prescribed synthroid, for him, said to get brand name because some people had a problem with taking generic synthroid. I take generic synthroid and do fine with it. Also with other generics.
Kris
I take 4 30mg oxycodone tablets a day. The generic form of Roxicodone. Wal-Mart generic is the only good one I have tried, they are blue with an M on one side and 30 on the other. I tried a generic from CVS, and It was white, and I couldn’t believe how weak they were. There was definitely a big difference in strength.
Dr. RJ
Nearly every person I have on Lamictal got worse when they got switched to the generic, so I no longer approve it, period. Effexor XR has gone generic, so for anyone switching, be very vigilant for any problems, especially withdrawal symptoms.
Steve
This is a question for “S” who posted on November 9th about his problems with a generic for Zoloft. Do you know which company made the generic you took with which you had the problem? Have you tried another manufacturer’s generic since with better results — and if so, what manufacturer — or are you back on brand-name Zoloft?
MDA
I’ve been on generic Buprion for one week. The first two days had no effect. Day 3-4 produced speedy heart rate and anxiety two hours after ingestion. Day 5, nothing but depression. Day 6, speedy heart rate and anxiety 5 hours after ingestion. Day 7 extreme depression- not responsive to any positive stimuli. Day 8, vomitting one hour after ingestion. This is made by Sandoz.
I pick up the name brand this afternoon.
C Wilson
My 10 year old son and I have bipolar disorder and we both had been taking Lamictal. The last refill we received was the generic form of Lamotrigine and it succeeded in throwing us back to where we started. We had been relatively stable on the Lamictal but our symptoms began coming back over the next several weeks after begin switched to the generic by Teva.
The cost of the brand name has gone up for us to get a refill, we have to pay for three months at a time ($320). If we chose the generic, we could take advantage of being billed for our copay. It is as if the whole pharmaceutical infrastructure is trying to make it virtually impossible for us to get the brand name drug for a manageable cost.
We were able to scrape enough together to get my son Lamictal, but for now, I am stuck feeling worse than I have felt in years. I am irritable, agitated, anxious, quick to anger and unable to concentrate. How am I supposed to take care of him, myself and my household feeling like this???
K. W.
I started with Wellbutrin 300XL and loved it. It had an immediate effect and made me active and inspired to live again. I got two months’ worth of Wellbutrin; then they changed it to the generic brand.
Over time, I’ve become lethargic and symptoms of my depression have begun to reappear (having difficulty accomplishing small tasks). I also noticed that I was getting strange tremors. The problem with all of this is that I can’t say that these symptoms have occurred with 100% frequency while on Budeprion 300–it’s more like the symptoms might go away for a week or two and then come back. Although when I say “go away” I really mean I don’t have headaches or nausea and I’m not as tired–but I’m NOT as primed as I was while on Wellbutrin.
I’m really dismayed to read about all the other problems people are having and reports that indicate there has been insufficient testing by the FDA. I’d rather pay a higher co-pay than feel like this anymore.
KAB
Had difficulty with two generics; both were required by insurer to be prescribed instead of name brand when they came on the market: pantoprazole 40 mg (instead of Protonix 40 mg) and bupropion XL 150 mg (instead of Wellbutrin XL 150 mg). After 3 days of pantoprazole, reflux had returned; switched back to Protonix after 10 days. Within a week of generic bupropion XL, signs of anxiety and depression were creeping in; discontinued generic and returned to Wellbutrin after 3 weeks. Both require a high copay as Tier III drugs.
JKA
Meclizine Generic for Antivert has little to no help for vertigo. One or two Antivert would clear up the problem…..I can take Meclizine as directed for days and discover absolutely no relief. Also, not seeing results from Metoprolol generic for Lopressor. Been taking the last prescription for 2 years.Thanks.
Nate
I was prescribed Budeprion 150 XL. Small side effects like 2 second dizzy spells and jitters were the first thing I noticed. After taking the 150mg for a month with no results, I was bumped up to 300mg. 2 days into taking the 300mg I started to itch at the top of my head. The itch then went to the back of my neck and then all over my body. The itch moves from place to place now. From my head to my crotch. Seams that sensitive skin areas are the most affected. The itch is driving me crazy.
It feels like someone poured battery acid on my head and that burn is what itches. I hate this drug. I have stopped taking it. All I can hope for is that this itch goes away. Today I also felt like hurting someone or hurting myself. Other side effects = Chest pain, loss of sense of direction, hallucinations, eyes sensitive to bright lights, feel very angry at times. Did I mention this ITCH is driving me crazy!!!!!!
Elizabeth
My husband served two tours in Iraq and was put on Prozac (fluoxetine) 20mg once daily for post traumatic stress disorder. The veterans hospital started mail ordering our drugs and sending them to us in the mail. He started taking the generic form of this drug made by sandoz. I started to notice a difference in him.
After suffereing with this problem for months finally he pulled out the fluoxetine made by Eli lilly and the fluoxetine made by Sandoz and opened them both up and did a taste test, well lets just say there was a huge difference in the taste. The Sandoz one was bearable for him to taste he said it was hardly bitter, when he tasted the Eli lilly one he ran to the sink to wash out his mouth. He said it was very bitter.
These are not the same drug and I saved these pills for further testing if someone would like to do it. I will hang on to them. Our men and women serve our country well and deserve the best medication and here this company sandoz is messing with our lives! Someone please help get this generic off the market!!!!
OB
I had been using Yaz birth control pills as treatment for my endometriosis. My doctor switched me to Yasmine birth control pills when my weight went over 200 pounds. I was on Yasmine for a couple of months without any noticeable problems. Then the generic version, Ocella, apparently came out around July of 2008, and, my pharmacy automatically filled my prescription with the generic rather than the name brand. It was supposed to be manufactured by Bayer, just like the name brand, and, it was supposed to be the same. However, within the first week on Ocella, I had many difficulties.
I had very uncomfortable breast tenderness which I had never had before in all my years of using various birth control pills. I also felt very moody and was having difficulty with depression. Also, although I got migraine headaches in the past, I felt I had more headaches after starting the Ocella. By the time I was on Ocella for a week, I had horrible cramps, and, I had to go to the emergency room at Coral Springs Medical Center. The emergency room ran tests but could not find the cause of the pain. I was sent home after spending the afternoon and night at the emergency room. The painful breast tenderness continued.
I could not bring my arms together in front of me because the pressure from my arms against my breasts was too painful. I didn’t think any of the problems were related to the Ocella until I stopped taking the Ocella pills at the end of the month to get my period. Within a day of not taking the Ocella active pills, the breast tenderness went away. My ob/gyn wanted me to try the Ocella one more month and see if I had the same effects. He insisted the generic would be the same as the name brand. However, I refused. I now pay a lot more out-of-pocket to take the name brand instead of the generic, however, I have not had any problems since switching back to the name brand. I certainly didn’t want to risk having those horrible cramps again or having to go to the emergency room again. Also, the cramps happened a week after being on the Ocella, and, that is not a time I’ve ever had cramps before. Normally I have cramps right before my period, when I’m not taking any active pills. These cramps were also worse than my usual cramps, even with me having endometriosis.
lm
Had been taking WellbutrinSR 300 mg 2x per day. Insurance company switched to bupropion and the headaches were so intense, my dr. makes sure that i only get brand name drug now. More expensive co-pay, but definitely worth it.
SL
I had been on dyazide(& used only brand name) for a number of years – moved to a new State – and the pharmacist substituted the dyazide (legal in this state) with Triamterene. With in a week I started having Palm pain in both hands. I did NOT relate this to the triamterene until about 3 weeks later I mentioned it to a friend and co-worker (an ARNP) when my fingers had started to trigger . She promptly told me to stop the triamterene and see a hand Dr. I did. The palm pain stopped but I am stuck with the triggeriing fingers. The Dr. injects as often as he feels he can safely do so… has operated on one finger ..and will be doing so on the other hand soon. Needless to say I am not a generic fan.
Pam S.
I’ve been taking Wellbutrin XL 300 mg for 4 years with no problems. November 3, I received a refill with the generic manufactured by TEVA. In a matter of 2 days, I thought I was losing my mind. Headaches that nothing would stop, crying spells, extreme anxiety. I then googled buproprion generic and found I was not alone. I purchased a 10 day supply of the brand name last night while awaiting dispensation from my insurance and today feel better than I have in days. This stuff is crap and should not be allowed on the market.
AP
I was prescribed generic Wellbutrin and after taking it I had these “rush” type feelings after the first couple of hours. Too “speedy” feeling. Then after taking it for a about a week to 10 days, I started to itch. First at the base of head, and neck, then palms and bottoms of feet. No rash though. Then, the itchiness took complete control of my body. It was like being tortured. Rash, welts. I would itch like crazy. It’s now been 6 weeks since stopping, and finally it’s subsiding. I found out my generic prescription was from Teva. Anyone know why this takes so long to leave your system?
S
I have been on Zoloft for 4 years now. I work in the insurance industry so I know the difference between generic and name brand. I tried the generic for Zoloft Sertraline and it changes my mood my thoughts and makes me feel completely out of the norm. I have brought this up to the Pharmacy and my Dr and both look at me like I am crazy. I agree the generic is not the same as name brand and hope someone can do something about this.
Ev S..
Allergra had been prescribed for allergies.
My prescription plan switched me to the generic.
It did not work. I contacted the pharmacy where it was filled. The pharmacist informed me there have been numerous complaints regarding this generic not working.
I now pay the difference for the Brand.
Jim
I was diagnosed with bipolar depression in 1988. Was prescribed lithium and responded well to it. In 1991 I began using Prozac to treat symptoms of OCD. Again, my response was favorable. During the fall of 2000 I began taking generic Prozac. Over the next six months my condition deteriorated and I became very depressed and despondent. My late sister (who was a pharmaceutical rep) suggested that I switch to brand.
I did. My symptoms cleared up within six days. In 2002 my doctor recommended taking generic lithium. Five days after beginning the generic it was nearly impossible to remain awake and functional. I was familiar with the normal side effects of lithium therapy with drowsiness being my primary symptom. The generic experience was nearly identical to blood-serum toxicity I once experienced after sweating excessively in the summer heat.
Upon switching back to brand lithium, all symptoms ended within 72 hours. My attending physician disputed my experiences. I asked my primary care physician specifically about generic drugs and he confirmed that generic drugs are NOT made to the same specifications as brand drugs. I am outraged that this has not only happened to me, but to others as well. It is frightening having to take these drugs in the first place. My insurance company will not pay for brand-named medications, and I am forced to purchase them out-of-pocket.
This has put a severe strain upon our family budget. But so be it. I’m not about to be dragged through hell again to improve my insurance company’s bottom line. The oldest book in the world warns of using “false weights and measures.” My hope is that the pharmaceutical companies and FDA will soon heed this ancient advice.
Monika D.
I had been taking Mirtazapine (generic for Remeron) for anxiety and depression. My pharmacist suddenly changed the manufacturer from CARACO to another company that started with the letter A. (I can’t remember the name) I began having panic attacks, memory problems, depression, and heart palpitations. I called the pharmacist and she told me she would special order the medication that I had been on and try to keep it in stock. After getting back to the generic medicine that I had been taking, I started to get back to normal, although the residual effects of the substituted medicine lingered for several days.
Nadine
My husband had taken the brand name product Dilantin for over 4 years when we decided to switch to a generic because of a change in our prescription plan for our medications. He got along fine for 6 years. In January of this year, our insurance company switched to another generic. I am a nurse and had no idea there could be such a big difference in generic products.
He had just had his yearly physical in January and his blood levels were great as usual. Then our nightmare began. Within few weeks, he began having episodes of dizziness. The doctors felt it was an inner ear issue. He was doing some treatments, on medications but not getting better. He fell during this time fracturing his nose. We went out of state to see a balance specialist who sent us to a neurologist. After six weeks of pure hell and incapacitation, it was found that his phenytoin level was toxic. After much investigation, drug testing, we have discovered that the first generic he was on was at the low end of acceptable and the new was at the high end that was acceptable with the FDA. He was getting 50% more drug with the new generic. The new drug was manufactured by a billion dollar company in India.
It outrages me as a citizen and as a nurse that the FDA finds this acceptable. We are notified if a brand is switched to a generic for Dilatin but it is not mandated that the patient needs to be notified with a switch from generic to generic. My husband almost died with a blood level of 66.7 when normal is 10-22. I find this most unacceptable and frightening for the consumer. Phenytoin toxic symptoms resemble so many other things and with a normal Dilantin level of 10 in January, no one felt that it could be the medicine as the physician had not been notified of the switch.
JR
My insurance like so many of the people on this site pushed me into changing from Wellbutrin Xl 300 to the generic. Things declined slowly with migraines, weight gain, sleep issues,reflux, my depression which was under control came back without warning. Once my prescriber listened to me for a few minutes she also realized something was terribly wrong. She said that I was the 2nd patient who had the same problems with the generic.
All the problems I had some of which were very scary due to the generic are now gone. I find it really terrible that the insurance companies can tell us which drugs we have to take. I refuse to be forced to take a generic drug that caused me such harm. I will have to pay the higher co pay and will do so with the understanding that if I dont I will be in a very dark place. Thank you peoplespharmacy.com for listening to all of us. Your article in Oprah December issue shed light on a sick money making scheme for the insurance companies one that plays with peoples lives just to make money.
Sharon
I take Apri, the generic form of Desigen, for my birth control. I once tried to switch to Desigen but the slight difference between the two showed markedly in me. My breasts swelled painfully. I do not tolerate Desigen as well as I do the generic form.
mp
I was prescribed ambiem because of sleep problems. It really worked well and I was able to get to sleep and sleep through the night. Then the pharmacy put me on the generic form zolpidem teva. Right away I noticed that I did not fall asleep as quickly and awakened 2 or 3 hours later. Also, I’ve been getting dizzy and have to urinate constantly.
J. Gilmore
I was Agoraphobic for 22 years before my doctor found a drug called Prozac that helped control my anxiety so I was able to live a more normal life. I started taking Prozac in 1990. In 2003 my insurance company said that if there was a generic for the drug you are taking you must take the generic or pay the full price of the drug. I got the generic of Prozac which is Fluoxetine.
I had no reserves because it said it was the same medication as Prozac. I took it for about 4 weeks and never felt anything different. I was a lector at my church and never felt any discomfort doing this. But, into the fourth week of taking the generic I went on the altar to read my reading and suddenly had a full blown panic attack. I somehow got through the reading but went straight to my office and called my doctor.
He asked me a few questions about if there was anything unusual going on that would possibly bring on an attack. I said no and told him maybe it’s ok now cause I feel fine. He said call me if it happens again. It happened a couple of times more before I called him in a panic and told him. He immediately called my local pharmacy and ordered Prozac for me. I stopped the Fluoxetine and waited about 3 days and went back on the Prozac.
After that I was fine again. Then I started paying the full price of Prozac. First it was $90.00 for 3 months and continued to go up until it was $285.00 for 3 months and I could no longer afford it. I am on another drug now that did not have a generic when I first started it but now it does. So I will have to go through the same experiment with the generic as I did before. Scary. Generics are not for all people.
JI
I had been taking Wellbutrin XL 150 mg once daily, which I bought through the mail-order pharmacy NextRx based in Fort Worth, TX. Without notification from my insurance company, Alliance BCBS, or NextRx I was switched to budeprion XL 150 mg, which is manufactured by TEVA in the US. I soon began to feel highly agitated. The agitation reminded me of the feelings I experienced when I (on my own accord) cut my Wellbutrin pill in half and caused the drug to dissolve too rapidly in my system. It felt awful—I would get enraged at the slightest thing and would feel like running, screaming and crying, while tearing my hair out right in public.
I decided to try quitting the budeprion and my agitation went away. At the time of this writing, I have yet to talk to my new specialist about the side effects of budeprion XL. I hope he will be open and understanding, as well as knowledgeable about how to solve this generic drug problem with my insurance company.
Managed Care Kills
My Prescription Drug Plan requires the substitution of formulary drugs with their generic equivalents. I had a heart attack and triple bypass in 2004. My cardiologist prescribed Toprol after these events and I took it without incident. In 2007 Metropol appeared on my Prescription Drug Plans list of Generics so my pharmacist gave it to me. Within a month of taking it I began to have irregular heartbeats and went into ay-fib twice which required hospitalization.
The resulting medical bills exceeded $10,000. My cardiologist put me on a halter monitor after I got out of the hospital the second time and he discovered simultaneous AVP and PVC signals in his review of the printout from the Halter Monitor. He was trying to figure out why I was suddenly having this trouble and he asked me if anything had changed in my life within the past month. I told him my pharmacist had switched the Toprol with Metoprol about a month ago. He wrote me another script for Toprol and put DAW on it. My irrregular heartbeats stopped after going back onto Toprol.
s.d.
Ambien was the perfect sleep aid. I was then put on zolipidem teva. I did not sleep at all! Why are we forced by are insurance companies to take drugs that don’t work. Don’t their families take medications?
KA
Every generic I take causes nausea about a half hour after swallowing the pill. It happens with both antibiotics and the generic for Effexor. I have to eat a large quantity of food to relieve the sickening feeling to settle my stomach. Perhaps there is a pill to take that contains the buffers missing in the generics.
Kenneth T.
I am writing about generic M S CONTIN . I have been on MSContin 100mg three a day for chronic pain they are extended pain relief pills 12 hrss. When they put me on the generic brand they dissolved in my mouth before I could swallow them.That released all the medication at once. very dangerous made me deathly sick. Instant pain releif but short lived. Lucky it didn’t kill me. Back on brand now after informing my dr. and him making sure they’re brand name.
denise
I take the brand Nu-Iron for anemia. It’s just an iron supplement, simple, right? I didn’t think there would be any problem switching to the generic Poly-Iron. Wrong. Within a week, I felt weak and tired. I made an appointment to have bloodwork done, and no surprise (based on the way I felt), my iron levels had tanked. This is a simple iron supplement, not a chemically complicated prescription compound, yet it simply didn’t work.
Leigh
I have been taking ritalin for years. Have used generics in the past with no problem. I purchased my prescriptions at Rite-Aid this time….wellbutrin and ritilin….I have had HORRIBLE results….the methylphenidate is made by sandoz…yellow pill with a Z on the back,….it made me SO SICK…massive headache…jittery….the wellbutrin they gave me was bupropion HCL XL 300 mg by watson labs….I have had horrible results….headache…depression fatigue….aches and pains…
I urge you to avoid this pharmacy and these medications.
Paul
I have been taking 10mg of Zestril (Lisinopril) for at least 30 years. Last year I started taking the generic from Mylan Labs and did experience the headaches. Walmart Grocery Pharmacy then switched to Lisinopril from Lupin Ltd in India, $4 a month. I thought I noticed problems in the first three months, then in the past three months, I had breathing problems.
I stopped taking the drug for a couple of days and the problems decreased. I asked the pharmacist and was told that was the only Lisinopril they could sell and they didn’t have the name brand. I got a prescription for the name brand for 20mg tablets and bought them at Costco for $145 and I use 1/2 tablet a day. That cuts the cost significantly. My breathing problems are gone. I’m willing to pay $265 a year for the name brand. There does seem to be a marked difference.
LM
Started taking the generic form of Wellbutrin, the 150 mg extended release, about three weeks ago. (I had assumed it was the name brand version ’till I looked at bottle today. This med is made by Teva Pharma).
So far no improvement whatsoever in depression or ADD. On the other hand, no side effects at all. It’s as if I’m taking a sugar pill. My doctor says it may take up to 8 weeks for it to work, but this seems like a long time, especially with severe depression. I really need some relief and this drug isn’t doing anything at all. Now I worry that the “drug” may be counterfeit. I’m very concerned.
EJB
The generic for Synthroid did not work for me. I spent a year on Levoxyl and became very tired to the point of frequently crying. Only a chance discussion with a hair dresser who said she and her mother could not tolerate the generic for Synthroid made me aware of the reason for my fatigue. My physician more or less thought my request to go back to Synthroid was questionable but I insisted. It took several months to get back to normal and I am extremely grateful to my hairdresser friend. I had been brainwashed into thinking generics were identical to original prescriptions. I have been on Synthroid since 1958 except for the one year on Levoxyl.
EVS
I have been taking Wellbutrin xl, 300MG for the past 3 years. When the generic of the drug came out earlier this year and I was forced to switch to it because of insurance I took it thinking that there should be no problems or differences. I really have not seen much differences in the past with generics of medications that I have been on, so I did not think this would be any different. After a couple of months of being on the generic I was talking with my doctor about how I feel like my current medications are not working anymore for me and that maybe I needed to make a switch.
He then looked at my records and noticed that I was taking the generic of the Wellbutrin xl, 300MG and he suggested that I try to take the name brand one more time to see if that made any difference. He gave me samples he had in his office, so that the experiment would not cost me tons of money. Low and behold, I felt better almost right away. I would say three to four days after taking the name brand made such a difference in my mood.
Ever since that, my doctor has prescribed the name brand, with no substitute allowed. It has cost me a fortune, and I just noticed today that the cost has gone up even more. I do the mail order for my prescriptions, but it is still costing me about $100/mo. for the name brand, which is ridiculous. The mere fact that it was cheaper when there was no generic available and now that there is a generic available that does not work makes me angry. It’s just the insurance companies way of getting out of paying for your prescriptions.
Tina
I tried a generic ambien and it worked well. It was a small white round pill. I went to get it filled and they gave me an oblong shaped pill with RB82 on it and it DID NOT work as well. LET ME REPEAT it took an hour or so for me to fall asleep and I woke up 5 hrs. later! With the other ones I slept a full 8 hrs., and I HAD to go to sleep in 15 min. or I would start seeing countertops move! Do not tell me that it’s all in my head!
Several people I have talked to said that it didn’t work, and I work in an orthopedic clinic. I got the oblong one from a small family owned drug store and the tiny white one from Walmart. Go figure!
Steve
Less than one week ago, I posted a suggestion/request that when making a comment about a generic, that the poster include the manufacturer of the generic so that anyone using that medication would know which company’s generic to seek or to avoid. There is another advantage to that: it might put some economic pressure on a company to improve its generic.
For example, as I said in the previous post, when I sought out a generic for Wellbutrin XL, I specifically avoided the Teva brand. And I have been very happy with the Watson brand. If a sufficient number of people start to inquire as to what generic brand a pharmacy uses, and then walk away if it is one that has been criticized on this board, then perhaps that pharmacy will switch brands of generic.
If that were to occur enough times — especially by drugstore chains — perhaps the manufacturer would get the message and it would then have an economic motivation to improve its manufacturing process. This all would depend of course on sufficient numbers of people making their preferences known to the pharmacies which could only happen with information furnished by posters to this site.
SMJ
My son and I have both had trouble with generic forms of stimulants (for ADHD). In my son’s case it was quite obvious to us that the generic form of ritalin was shorter acting and the rebound effects more severe. In my case I tried Focolin (and its generic) and Adderal (and its generic). In both cases, the brand names seemed to work well and for the expected time period.
The generics, however, did not work as well. In both cases, the generics were not as effective in helping ADD symptoms and the side effects much more pronounced. I felt so jittery and anxious that I could not make use of my (only slightly) increased focus and attention abilities. In the case of the generic adderall, it caused anxiety symptoms severe enough for me to seek medical treatment for irregular heartbeat.
These side effects did not occur with the brand name versions. It is very discouraging that the cost of the brand is 2-3 times more than the generics and my insurance company needs ‘proof’ that I really need the brand name in order ot cover it.
pattie
If the price is too good to be real – it’s fake! Yep. With Nexium over $4 a pill at Costco, I ordered “name Brand” from an online pharmacy in Canada. Came from India, and it is a copy-or generic. Does not work and now I have asthma symptoms and cough back. Don’t know what I will do, I can’t afford the name brand! We are spending 30% of our income on doctors; insurance and get nothing! The drug companies are getting rich while the rest of us get sick and die.
Steve
I saw a post by Ray on Sept. 6 wherein he explained he had a problem with the generic of Zoloft made my Greenstone. My son takes the brand name Zoloft but soon, because of a change in insurance, will have to switch to a generic. Since Greenstone is the generic company of Pfizer, the brand name manufacturer of Zoloft, I assumed this would be the generic to look for. Does anyone else have experiences, good or bad, to report about the Greenstone generic of Zoloft? Thanks.
KMB
I had been on zoloft after my first child and it worked wonderful, then after my second I went back on it again expecting the same results from the generic. I am at 150 and still having anxiety issues that I didn’t have last time. That’s when I came upon your article and realized it’s not just me and my suspicions are true, the generic doesn’t work like the brand name.
JB
Following a long hospital stay for pancreatitis, I started exhibiting symptoms akin to Parkinson’s. This was eventually found to be due to beri-beri following two years of inadequate diet. I was unable to speak, walk, feed myself or do anything much more than have severe muscle tremors. My Internist put me on Neurontin and the first filling of the script was for the real deal, not generic.
Since my insurance company doesn’t allow name brands, THEY switched me to a generic. The muscle tremors and severe shaking returned, so my doctor raised the dose. It has helped to the point that I can walk with assistance and I can eat. However, two weeks ago I took one of the fake Neurontins and within 15 minutes I was on the floor in a daze, barely able to move.
I stayed there, unable to get help, for 6 hours, until my husband came home. The emergency room doctor decided I had overdosed and told my husband to hide my medicines. I am very careful with medicines and have never exceeded the dosage and timing. Since this diagnosis became part of my medical record, I am now considered an addict and have been treated accordingly by the pharmacy that I use for my medications and my doctor’s PA.
The only pain medicine they will give me in Tramadol – yep, another generic form which does absolutely nothing. Doesn’t it make you feel good knowing that some idiot from the insurance company, who does not have MD/RN or even LPN after his or her name, and who may not even have graduated high school is making all the decisions for your medical care?
Steve
I think it would be helpful if when posting a comment about a generic, if you could put in the name of the company which made the generic. For example, I have taken the brand name Wellbutrin XL 300 mg and then when I switched to a generic, I made sure to find a pharmacy that carried one made by a company other than Teva. The generic I take is made by Watson and I have found absolutely no difference at all between the Watson generic and the name brand Wellbutrin XL. Just complaining about a “generic” without naming the company is really not helpful, because one does not then know which generic is having a problem.
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Larry
Caraco’s Klonopin generic simply does not work.. I suspect the product is a complete fraud.. I have already informed the FDA but haven’t contacted the Generic Pharmaceutical Association.
Thanks for being here and your help.
Larry
DC
I started on Wellbutrin XR with a sample pack from the doctor. When I filled the script at the pharmacy they gave me the generic. That’s always been my preference. Within 2-3 weeks of taking the generic I broke out in hives head to toe. I am now “allergic to Wellbutrin” but I feel I’m allergic to the generic/inactives/coating. But no one is willing to prescribe the name brand again.
Anna
My pharmacist said it was all in my mind when I told him about my experience with Budeprion XL; I had been using Wellbutrin for almost two years when the insurance company suggested I switch to save money on the co-pay. Within one month, I was feeling the black cloud of depression…and it was awful. I went back to Wellbutrin and all was well within another month. It costs me so much more than the generic, but I really need it.
Carole B.
I too had high cholesterol and refused to take prescriptions to lower it after hearing so many having weakness in muscles and other side effects. My Doctor who is open to alternatives suggested Red Yeast Rice 833mg, 3 times a day with Omega fish oil. Results: my reading went down 30 points in 3 months and 30 more 3 months later.
So you see there are alternatives to prescriptions. Hope this helps some others.
Signed, relieved and happy with my new readings.
LynnAnn
WOW!! I’m both shocked and relieved at what I’m reading. I was given the Generic brand of Wellbutrin XL 150 around 2 months ago. I started noticing changes. I was getting depressed and having terrible anxiety that I never had before. My Husband was about to leave me because I have gotten so crazy. I agree with anyone who is saying it should be re-evaluated because it is not working!! Thank goodness I am not alone in this because I was starting to think I was loosing it!!
Its going to cost me an additional $90 per 3 months but it will be worth every penny to feel better again.
Jennifer G.
I have been taking Toprol XL for heart palpitations for years with no side effects. My co-pay was $35.00. I was offered the generic brand for $4. and jumped on it. It was terrible. My palpitations came back, food tasted very funny, I got ulcers in my mouth and on cracked lips. The day I stopped taking it, the symptoms stopped. I will gladly pay the $35.oo and get the real stuff
Sophia
I have purchased some generic Fioricet from an online pharmacy. They are light blue pills with the inscription West-Ward 787. I am familiar with Fioricet and find that these pills seem to do nothing at all. I would like to know what they contain. I believe Westward is a reputable company but I suspect that these pills are counterfeit. Where can I send them to have them tested for content?
Rita
My physician placed me on Lipitor last year for high cholesterol (250). I had seen the commercials indicating that muscle weakness was a possible side effect. However, it was not my skeletal muscles that were effected, but my involuntary ones. My intestines just stopped working. I started struggling to fill my lungs. I went to the physician and he angrily said it could not be the Lipitor but insisted I try another statin!
Sandra H.
I used to be a very kind and considerate person. Got along with everyone and was a very likable person. I Liked to have fun and was a joy to be with. Now, I have hatred and contempt for everyone including myself. I have outbursts of anger and rage.
I am depressed and cry all the time. This is what Budeprion (Wellbutrin) medication did for me. I weaned myself from it and now I have to go to a psychiatrist because I still suffer from these side effects. This Budeprion altered my personality and emotions beyond anything I ever imagined. It is like some horrible nightmare that I cannot wake up from.
JJM
I was on clonazapm for years without problem or need of increase once therapeutic dose was reached. Then I went to Target for my med. I began to get blurry vision, sleepless nights, nightmares, major anxiety, shaking, and a negative tox screen for benzos despite taking 4mg/ day of TEVA klonazapam.
I reported it to my MD, and was given a different script and went to a new pharmacy, New generic ‘brand’, and my symptoms abated. Normal again. Now, my symptoms are back, and I checked my med bottle: TEVA brand. My pharmacy had switched brands and I was back to TEVA and symptoms of withdrawal and severe anxiety. How do I get these things tested?
I don’t think the medication is in the pill like it is supposed to be. The FDA is useless. Too many companies to oversee, and a well placed case or so of meds pass inspection and the problems start. I am 40, have had chronic illness since childhood, and never had a problem with medications not working like this. Someone needs to check this company out.
cm
I am taking generic metformin 500 mg tablets from walmart. They do not work which has caused me to switch pharmacies.
CWW
Generic Requip is simply not as effective as the brand name. I have to take about 3 times as much and even then it does not do the same thing. Returned to brand name and it worked as usual. Something not right with the generic.
TP
My wife was switched to generic wellbutrin – after 2 weeks she was beginning to feel depressed and she commented that she didn’t think the pills were working anymore – once back on brand name med she did fine!
Kathy c
I don’t know whether to laugh or cry reading this. I thought it was just me. I was switched to generic Zoloft 6 mos. ago and have not felt the same since. I experienced an increase in panic attacks, agitation, nervousness, sleeplessness, nightmares and anxiety.
I casually mentioned to someone the other day that I did not fully trust generics, expecting to get a “you are crazy” answer and instead was led to this website. Even though the real stuff will cost me $100 more a month – I am switching back.
I want my life back. PLEASE, please report this to the FDA. What they are doing with these generics is not right. Those of us with the horrible disease of depression know the difference. It is not a placebo effect and it is not “all in our heads.”
T.S.
I was taking Wellbutrin XL and was not concerned when my pharmacy filled my prescription with the generic version. HORRIBLE Mistake. The generic is NOT the same compound as the name brand. I had TERRIBLE side affects from the generic almost immediately and refused to take it after only 3 days. My doctor now only prescribes me Brand name only. Someone needs to look into what is going on with this generic version of the drug.
Casey S.
I think the generic for Wellbutrin XL, called budeprion, should be pulled from the nation’s pharmacy shelves until it and its manufacturers are thoroughly investigated. I was taking WellbutrinXL 300 for about three years and felt more like my old self prior to the mild depression that divorce, single motherhood, etc. brought on.
I felt so fortunate to be able to have energy and return to my former “can-do” self! Then my insurance company changed their formulary policy, and the next three month supply came with these oval yellow pills. Okay – I am in favor of saving money! Whatever it takes, right? After taking this generic for EIGHT DAYS, I was a MESS! I was having panic attacks, crying jags, paranoia, suicidal thoughts – stuff I NEVER EVEN EXPERIENCED BEFORE I started taking the Wellbutrin!
This generic might contain the same chemicals, but it is not metabolized the same or something. It should be investigated and re-evaluated. I would hate to think what might have happened had I not called my doctor and talked to him about my situation. I now pay $145 for three months of the name brand because the insurance company will not cover it at all even though my medical doctor requests they dispense the name brand instead of the generic.
How is this even possible in our country today?!! It’s creepy who is REALLY in charge of our health care: INSURERS who have NO VESTED INTEREST IN OUR TRUE HEALTH. It’s disgusting.
SJ
I have recently reported a Prozac generic to the FDA in July 2008. My psychological symptoms were successfully controlled for two years with the pink and green generic for prozac (FLUOXETINE). Then in July ’08 my drug store changed the type of generic to this white and blue (marked R149) oblong shaped capsule much bigger in size- also FLUOXETINE.
It did not work at all and I became very sick with cramps and pain and then over time all my symptoms returned in full. It took about a month and a half for me to realize it was the new blue & white pill! It was not working at all.
I worked with my Doctor and returned to the old Green and pink FLUOXETINE and everything returned to normal and I am feeling all better. I am so thankful that I realized that it was the new pill that was causing the problem.
Denise
The current generic Ultram (tablet reads “AN 627”) is NOT as effective as the brand name. Both Walgreens and CVS are distributing this generic. I have spoken with pharmacists, but without a bigger name to help report the problem, nothing will change for those of us who must purchase the generics.
In fact, the day I reported the problem to a CVS pharmacist, he said he’d just had a report from woman 2 days prior informing him that her generic Ultram (same tablet marking) had done the opposite-she felt as if she’d doubled or tripled her dose.
This is VERY dangerous-she could have been driving, standing on a ladder, etc.
In the past, I could take 1/2 tab of Ultram, and be able to get through a morning. But upon switching to this particular generic (prior generic worked fine, but I do not know its markings) I find I must take 1 1/2 tablets to get the same effect.
When a physician sees someone calling more often for refill approval, the first thought is that either his patient is abusing the drug, or that a tolerance is being developed-which means the patient may be prescribed a more potent, more addictive drug unnecessarily.
Thank you for being willing to report this. I see there is another post on this site complaining of the same quality control problem, so I know I’m not alone!
Gregg
I have been taking a generic of Ambien 5mg, Zolpidem,5mg. It just does not work for me. I can’t get to sleep with it. Ambien helped me to sleep.
I am glad to read others have had the same problem-I am going to get Ambien instead.
MW
I have been taking the generic for 75 mg Wellbutrin (bupropion) for several years with no problem. Without warning, my chain drugstore switched to another supplier of this generic. Immediately, I suffered from diarrhea whenever I took the new formulation. The Dr. who prescribed it blew me off until he read of this side effect in his PDR.
He wrote a letter to my prescription plan company requesting the use of the previous manufacturer when filling my prescription. The insurance company denied the request, even though a staff pharmacist there kept calling me to apologize. He said the request had gone all the way up the corporate chain and was denied due to $$$.
Eventually, the insurance company reversed its decision. In the meantime, I was able to comparison shop for a new pharmacy that still carried the other manufacturer.
Jo Ann
Of all the comments, I’m surprised not to see some regarding generic Gabapentin. It is very true generic drugs ARE NOT the same as name brand. I cannot take all generics of Gabapentin because I get the opposite effect I should get. I’m keeping a list of the generics I have bad reactions with & telling the pharmacy I will not take generics from certain drug companies. Apotex from Canada is one of the worst for me.
Steve O
I was prescribed generic ambien (zolpidem) for my sleep problems. WOW! Not only didn’t it work, I have a 3 month supply that I can’t use. My insurer won’t allow me to change to Ambien CR until the generics are gone. What a waste of money. Do yourself a favor and DEMAND Ambien CR instead of the generics, in the long run you’ll save money because you won’t need to take it every night.
john
WOW! Thank goodness I decided to look on-line for some help. I was on Wellbutrin for last 2 yrs and I am just past one month with generic. I have been extremely depressed and having crazy anxiety attacks. The feeling of the world crushing in on me, loneliness amongst loved ones, irritable, you name it…not good!
My history know these feelings too well and I thought all was going well since starting Wellbutrin. I was just crying about how to ask for help without losing my job or even being able to afford help. I am calling the pharmacist tomorrow and checking on insurance coverage. They better cover the real stuff because the scare that this last few weeks has put on me and my family is crushing!
I was way way too suicidal for someone who should be loving life and enjoying my young kids and beautiful wife. Thank you, thank you. I now know I am not alone and there is a solution…
soak
I was diagnosed with seizures that caused confusion and memory loss in January of 2008. I began taking Lamictal and have been doing great. In August, the insurance company changed by drug to the generic version, Lamotrigine without mine or my doctor’s consent or knowledge.
Two weeks later, the confusion and memory lost started again. I’m just waiting for my next seizure. If I have a seizure while taking this medication, I lose another 6 months without driving. The insurance company has successfully interrupted my life and could cause major damage to my brain.
What right do they have to override my doctor’s instructions without his consent? Why is our government giving them so much power over our lives. They are so concerned over freedom in other countries and yet we have no freedom over our own bodies.
I am really angry and want to fight them with everything I can. Is there a specific place where I can complain and it might make a difference?
Chery J
I’ve been on Wellbutrin for several years and went to the generic 300 Xl as soon as it came out. I really didn’t think about it when the insurance company switched to generic, but after a couple of weeks became tearful and started having poor sense of well being and loss of interest in usual activities of daily living.
It took me some weeks before I connected the symptoms to the generic change simply because I am a supporter of generics and know how important the economic savings is to us. Therefore, I am not one who would go LOOKING for a problem. With Wellbutrin XL, branded form, I have no major depresive symptoms.
I do have multiple sclerosis so have an increase in risk for depression. I reverted to my usual sense of better well being once restarting the brand name XL, but the costs are getting prohibitive. It appears we may be nailed after the last FDA report this summer.
PB
I had been on Zyrtec for 4 years before it came out OTC. I bought the generic, hoping to save a few dollars. I started taking it during a particularly stressful week and thought my symptoms were related to the stress.
I felt like I had soap emanating out of my tongue and nothing tasted good . It was hard to eat. Luckily I had a dentist appointment the next week. The hygienist helped me figure out that it must be the generic Zyrtec. I quit taking it right away and my tongue and taste buds returned to normal in less than 24 hrs.
Meg
I am diagnosed as bipolar. It started with Wellbutrin XL. I was taking a fine dose, then was switched to the generic brand because my doctor told me it would save money. I started to feel terrible again.
My depression worsened. I had multiple side effects like headaches, dizziness, and more so I had to be switched back to the actual drug. That’s back when I had health insurance that actually covered the brand name. I am now on Maryland Health Insurance (HMO). I’m supposed to pay only a co-pay for my medication.
I’m on Wellbutrin XL, Depakote, and a few other drugs. Since the generic brand is available my insurance doesn’t want to pay extra for the brand name. I’ve already tried Wellbutrin’s generic brand and I already stated the problem with that. So they are charging me more for Wellbutrin XL all of the sudden.
I am now also having issues getting Depakote! The generic brands of these drugs DO NOT WORK the same! I am terrified to try the generic brand, but my family can’t afford to pay $200-300 every month. You must be getting these complaints – so why aren’t you doing anything about it? At this point in time I am stable and having NO problems with my medication!
I don’t have time to experiment with drugs right now. I’m going to school full-time. This is the last thing I need right now! You can’t keep playing with people’s sanity and lives like this. There is an old saying – If it ain’t broken, don’t fix it!! I can’t even begin to explain how upset I am about this. Health Insurance is a JOKE in this country.
NH
Budeprion was useless to me also. When I realized what the problem was, I returned to Wellbutrin, for which I have to pay a penalty, and have had no further problems.
Ray
Thank god for this site. I was put on zoloft about 2 yrs ago, went to generic with good results. Recently my pharmacy gave me the generic manufactured by Greenstone. What a terrible month this led to. My systems started to come back and worse where some of the side-effects not normally associated to Zoloft. I would never have realized why this was happening to me and probably lost my family if I had not found this post. Thank You to all who shared there bad experiences to help others.
Teri
My insurance (Medicare D)switched me from Wellbutrin XL to Budeprion XL three months ago. I have been taking Wellbutrin since 1995. First it was the regular 3x daily Wellbutrin, then Wellbutrin SR and finally a few years ago I started taking Wellbutrin XL. I have always had wonderful results with no adverse side effects. In the 3 months since switching to Budeprion, my depression has increased.
Motivation has decreased. I feel nauseous all morning long, and I been experiencing headaches almost daily. Some have been migraines. But most disturbing of all (female that I am) my hair has started falling out! I get a hand full of hair every time I run the pick through it. My hair stylist said it’s falling out at the roots. He was alarmed by the loss and suggested that I have my thyroid checked.
I did have it checked and the results showed normal thyroid function. I am trying to get in touch with my psychiatrist, but living in SW MN has it’s disadvantages. I was to see him in July, and his office keeps canceling and rescheduling our appointments. It is now September, and my appointment is in the end of October. I wonder when they’ll reschedule that one? There are no other psychiatrist in this area of the state. Anyway, I want to go back to the Wellbutrin ASAP.
Lisa
My difficulty was with the generic form of Wellbutrin XL. I had been taking the brand for years with favorable results, then my pharm switched to the generic. Oh boy, did I have a roller coaster ride. It took me ages to figure out what was making me crazy but I was having panic attacks that progressively grew more frequent and when I finally figured out it was the med, I called the doc immediately.
He took me off and put me on something else, but I had terrible withdrawal for about two weeks. I didn’t start reading about others’ problems until after that, but I will swear with 100% certainty that the generic in my case was worlds apart from the brand!
Janine
I have had two generic drugs gave me extreme problems. They simply did not work for me; I suspect one actually aggravated my symptoms. I felt the pharmacy must think me crazy complaining, but luckily my doctor did not; the pharmacy gave in and ordered me another generic. So one drug, Ativan was straightened out, because I found the manufacturer online of the one I had been taking; finally the CVS agreed to order it for me.
Now the trauma begins all over again and this time much worse. I have been taking phenazopyridine, same generic brand for a number of years for a painful bladder condition known as interstitial cystitis (IC). One day, I went to my pharmacy and they gave me my prescription; I always check it and it looked totally different, so I questioned it; it was flat and not coated like my former one.
So, I asked for the original generic and they looked it up and it was discontinued. This is just the beginning of the nightmare. I took it home and tried it – absolutely useless pill; I think they gave me the placebo! Ok, so they order me another brand – now that comes in, I tried it for two days and it did not work; the pill looked the same, but was half the size of my original; so what is with that? I went online and looked up the pill numbers and kept being directed to a page of similar pills but all of those were half the strength…100mg and not 200mg.
So I decided to try two and that finally did work. Ok, but now my question is: am I overdosing or are the pills defective or weak?
I am in a terrible period of major flareup now and trying to get the brand name drug approved. It seems my dr had the papers for weeks and failed to sign them and send them in. Meanwhile I am now almost totally incapacitated and in pain, urgency that is making me feel crazy. I nearly went to the hospital last night and that is extreme for me. I am not sure what they could even do for me; not many drs understand this condition. My own dr apparently is on vacation or ‘out to lunch’, if you know what I mean?
Am I angry? Yes, furious.
However, it is good to find a site like this one. I commend you on starting it. We need to be heard.
Elizabeth M
I have been taking Zoloft for about 10 years, and like others on this site, I credit it with saving my life. I was put on the generic about two weeks ago (Sertraline, manufactured by Mylan) and over the past two weeks my anxiety has been building up to my pre-Zoloft levels.
I can’t work, I gag when I try to eat, I’m constantly terrified that I’m going insane and I’m having thoughts of suicide. I upped the generic 100mg to see if that helped, and it didn’t. Last night my mother researched generic Zoloft online and found many, many similar complaints, and today I forced my doctor to call in a prescription for brand name Zoloft.
I will never take the generic again. I will never believe that Mylan’s Sertraline is the equivalent of Zoloft, no matter what the FDA requirements state.
Dave Y
I am a total DAV and neurontin/gabapentin literally keeps me alive. It is the only drug that quiets my racing mind, makes past trauma easier to deal with, and helps to diminish the nightmares. I also have TD and RLS and I do swear that since taking neurontin I have not had a single incident of RLS and I used to have it nearly every night.
Now the VA has switched to generics. The first two new generics seemed OK but now the Actavis 400mg capsule is a big problem. It’s just no good for many reasons; the worst being that is far less effective and causes me to go down into deep depression and lethargy. I have experimented several times by switching between known good neurontin and the R667 capsule from Actavis.
This company lied to me by telling me that they made this drug in NJ, for after seeing that this plant had to recall all, yes all, of the drugs made at this plant I noticed that gabapentin was not on the list for this plant. There have been many problems with bad generic neurontin and I believe that Actavis is getting the ingredients for their gabapentin from Roxbury the company that recently recalled over 70 million pills for contamination.
The real neurontin does not take me down at all, in fact quite the opposite. The real neurontin has saved my life for without it, starting about ten years ago, I would have blown my brains out and left the misery of complex PTSD behind. Now I have to deal with much of it again and The VA says no problem with the drug as does Actavis and anyone you might ask. I believe that this bad drug is going to cause many suicides among VN vets with PTSD. I will not continue dealing with this bad drug for long and I cannot afford to buy the real thing myself.
The generic drug, 400mg capsule, orange and tan, marked R667 and made somewhere in either India or China by Actavis is not just bad it is dangerous. I had no negative symptoms with the real neurontin, but now the ghosts are back along with headaches, deep depression…the deepest..total fatigue, complete lethargy, zero motivation, etc.etc.
I do not care to continue living this way. It’s either good neurontin or a good chance of my exiting stage earth. Be nice if you could help. No one will admit anything and no one will do anything. THE DRUG IS BAD! PERIOD! Not maybe or perhaps or any other such crap it’s just BAD. Thank you Dave Y
Carol
I have been taking Dilantin since I was 13. I am 46 now and I have been taking this medication for a seizure disorder that I have.
I found that if I take the generic form of this medication,it will increase my seizures for some reason so I have no choice but to take the brand name.
Lynne T.
I was on Synthroid and it was working well for me. My husband’s benefits changed because his co. was bought and we had to mail-order our drugs –they switched me to generic without asking and it was hard to tell on the label so for 3 months I dragged myself around and gained 10 lbs until we figured it out and got the doctor to write “MUST HAVE SYNTHROID–No SUBstitutions” on the prescription.
I mean I was really miserable and they just tricked me by switching it out. My endo confirmed that she has many patients who have to have Synthroid brand. The thing is it takes you three MORE months to feel better again, so that’s SIX months I felt like crap.
AG
I have been taking Toprol XL for MVP for over 10 years. A year ago my pharmacy (mail order) changed my RX to the generic made by Sandoz. I started having premature heartbeats at night and mentioned this to my doctor. She then increased my dosage from 50mg to 75mg. This did not help the premature beats.
Two weeks ago I started taking a second generic that my pharmacy sent me, made by Ethex. This pill is so much larger than the brand name Toprol XL and the Sandoz version that I called the pharmacy to check for an error in the prescription. The pharmacy tried to reassure me that the drugs were the same, were approved by the FDA and included the same active ingredient.
I was skeptical but took the meds anyway. After 12 days, I called my doctor and insisted on a new prescription for the brand name Toprol XL. On the generic version by Ethex I experienced daily anxiety, increased premature beats, headaches, dizziness, nausea, panic attacks and a general feeling of malaise. I have been on the brand name for 3 days and am still having symptoms.
Hopefully these will clear up soon. The FDA must take action when people exhibit definite adverse symptoms to generics. What is the use of such an agency if it has no backbone or authority to act on behalf of the consumer?
C.E.S.
I suffer from depression and have taken the name brand of Zoloft in the past which really made me happier. I am now taking the generic brand which has started to work a little, for a short while.
I am now on 75mg a day which isn’t working at all and gives me diarrhea once in a while. I was only on 50mg of the name brand. It would be nice if some kind of action was taken, about this problem because I know its not in my head.
djbs
Kaiser changed Estrace brand.I’m having a very hard time even getting my physician or pharmacist to discuss the very severe side effects I’m experiencing from generic. Headaches are back after years of freedom from them,nausea,dizziness and depression.
Medical field is very under educated regarding Brand name verses Generic Hormones. With the large numbers of woman reaching pre and post menopause (naturally or hysterectomy induced) doctors cannot just dismiss us when we relay our symptoms to them.
I really want the Brand Estrace to be made available w/o having to argue constantly w/them to get the medication that makes me feel physically good.
Brent D.
A year ago my wife’s Toprol XL was changed to Metoprolol Succinate but we weren’t aware of the change. Soon thereafter her health went downhill and necessitated a visit to the hospital to see our cardiologist. He advised us to not let anybody ” screw ” with your medication”.
That was Dr.Visco. We went to our GP and requested a script for Toprol XL. He said it would only cost us more since our Insurance wouldn’t cover it anymore since there was a generic available. He gave us the script and for a year now we pay for the Toprol-XL and she is now OK as far a her heart and breathing goes.
The hospital/cardiologist/GP visits cost us and the ins.co. a lot. Also it is a hassle to get appts. These appts. took months to get and it isn’t easy driving to Buffalo to the hospital.
Gina
How can this be? Any generic brand of medication I have used did not work for me? Its disappointing. My doctor prescribed me tylenol3 for pain and I got the generic brand, let me tell you I was in so much pain because the generic just didn’t work.
I have used other generic medications in the past and they didn’t work either and I had to end up getting the real deal. I don’t understand how this stuff is suppose to be just like the original medication when for some of us it just doesn’t work the same? Its very disappointing and a waste of time.
Frederic
I recently switched to Walmart to fill my 20 mg fluoxetine prescription. After three or four days I developed a strong salty taste in my mouth. I skipped the dose on day six and the salty taste has almost disappeared by evening. The manufacturer is Barr Pharmaceuticals. I don’t take any other medicine and have not made changes to my diet. Has anyone else had this same experience?
BMO
Generic Drug: Thiothixene 1mg.
My wife suffers from a combination of OCD and a bipolar disorder. We have controlled it successfully for many years with a combination of anafranil and Navene (thiothixene). When Navene went off patent, we used the generic from Mylan Laboratories with continued success.
Earlier this year, we were supplied with a 90 day prescription of thiothixene by Medco manufactured by Geneva Generics. My wife developed a severe case of OCD which failed to respond even after raising the Navene to 5mg a day – which had always worked in the past.
After two weeks on this dosage, we began to suspect the generic. We discussed this with our doctor, and obtained a new prescription. This we had filled with the generic from Mylan. The OCD came within control after two days, and we have been able to reduce to thiothixene back to the maintenance dosage of 1mg a day without problems.
We will not use the generic from Geneva Generics again.
The Geneva Generic is a white capsule with yellow/orange bands and labeled GG 589. The Mylan generic is a dark tan and blue capsule labeled Mylan 1001.
sue
In May of 2007, I began taking 300 mg of Wellbutrin. Within a month my mood lifted and the depression was under control. I had energy and was sleeping well for first time in months. Then in August, the pharmacy switched generics. Within 2 weeks I was seriously depressed.
However, the link to generic was not considered. Since the wellbutrin was not doing the trick, my doctor spent several months trying to find a medicine that I could tolerate. Unfortunately, I ended up in psych ward on suicide watch.
They put me back on Wellbutrin – 450 mg — and within a few weeks I was feeling better, with no thoughts of suicide. Over the next couple of months, the depression lifted and I was able to go back to a normal life.
In late August 2008, my pharmacy substituted the generic. Within 7 days I began having sleeping problems. My energy level began decreasing. By 14 days on the generic the depression was back in full force, including beginning thoughts of suicide.
I was switched back to brand Wellbutrin after 2 weeks. The thoughts of suicide and general mood began lifting after a couple weeks. However, while, I have seen some improvement in mood, energy, my doctor is still trying to get me stabilized. Hopefully it will not be the ordeal of last year.
Carol
What a relief to know that the cause of my recent irrational behavior and lack of energy is because of being changed to Budeprion XL! My insurance switched me to the generic and my symptoms of depression have returned with a vengeance!
My appetite is insatiable, I barely have energy to get out of bed, and I have no desire to even leave the house. I have been taking Wellbutrin 150XL for several years now for a major depression and it is the only drug for depression that I can tolerate. The other SSRI’s caused horrible nausea and dizziness. I was able to function at a somewhat decent level with the Wellbutrin XL but with the generic I find I am sinking fast back into a major depression and I am barely able to deal with it.
I have just called my doctor and hope this will be resolved so I can start feeling near normal again. Please take this generic off the market! It just doesn’t work!
Jason V
I take Depakote Delayed release tablets for epilepsy. My most recent refill required that I take a generic (divalproex sodium). My prescription was for Depakote(brand name) and apparently law states that if a generic comes out then I am required to take it, according to the pharmacist. 200 dollars instead of my 20 dollar copay.
I have been on the generic 5 days and I am already feeling symptoms that I felt before I started taking Depakote. The pharmacist tries to tell me that the medicine is exactly the same. I called my old neurologist at Yale University Hospital and was told that the problem with generics is that they are not as highly regulated as brand name drugs and are allowed a plus or minus of 20%.
My problem is that depakote reacts with another of my medicines causing me to have to take a lower dose because Depakote increases the reactivity of my other medicine. By getting, apparently, a lower dose of Depakote I recieve a lower dose of the other medicine as well.
Having a siezure disorder but being siezure free for some time now and this generic opens my threshold for a siezure is unacceptable and how drug companies get away with this is appalling. I can’t reach anyone to fix this and now I am taking a chance because I have no other choice.
J.M.
I was on Diazide until the insurance would not pay for it, was only allowed generic triamterene. Repeatedly told doctor did not prevent edema as the Diazide did but was told even with prior approval Insurance would never agree to pay for the name brand because they say it is the same drug.
How is that? The drug Diazide contains triamterene & another drug while triamterene is only triamterene. Perhaps it is the other drug that helped the edema?? Or the combination? So why do doctors even bother prescribing a generic that does not do what it is being prescribed for?
J.M
Generic Adderall – Is ineffective and worse caused problems that did not exist prior to taking either the brand name Adderall or not taking any medicine. I was jittery, shaky, had extreme anxiety, spaced out, and slurry of words.
The generic [I do not know who makes it] form that I had to take on three different occasions is so bad that the last time I was to try it before I could get put on the name brand, I just told the doctor I took it and really just threw them out. I wouldn’t even waste my time because I know that it would make my condition worsen and it was better to take nothing at all!
P.F.
I was taking Ambien 10 mg at night and my insurance company switched me to generic ambien (not time-release). This particular generic works very fast and seems to be a good generic replacement for me. The manufacturer is Apotex.
So, I thought I would report that, to help others who are having problems with their generic replacement to request another brand. There are several generic replacements for Ambien. Although I have had problems with a couple of generic drugs in the past, most of the time I don’t have a problem. I am wary of the time-release generics, because the time-release mechanism of the name brand drug is part of what you are paying for.
C.Roth
I had been taking Toprol XL 25mg for years. My pharmacy gave me metoprolol ER 25mg. I immediately begin getting extremely dizzy and light headed within 10 minutes of taking the generic. I called my pharmacy and they assured me there was no difference. I cut the pill in half after that, just trying to see if it might be too strong, or getting into my system too quickly.
It helped some, but an going to Dr. tomorrow and demand that my prescription is name brand only in the future. There is a huge difference. This doesn’t feel like the same drug.
CK
I had been taking a generic form of Wellbutrin SR 200mg manufactured by Sandoz for a long time without problems. I went to pick up my refill and was given a generic manufactured by Global Pharmaceuticals.
The coating didn’t even resemble what I had seen in the past from Watson or Sandoz, so I questioned the pharmacist who said that it is the chemical in the pill, not the coating, that affects the time release. After less than 2 weeks on this new generic I wound up in the ER with extreme, unceasing vertigo.
They thought I had a stroke. I endured IV, EKG, MRI’s, blood draws, urinalysis, etc. only to find out that nothing physical was wrong with me. I still have to take this generic until I am eligible for a refill and can get name brand instead. I still feel lightheaded, dizzy, nauseated, and amped up.
There is definitely a difference between generic formulations which causes different actions on the brain. Psychoactive drugs need to be standardized- or not available in generic forms. It would have been cheaper for my insurance company to offer the name brand than to pay thousands for all of those tests in the ER.
JM
I have had a problem with the Mylan brand generic version of Inderal LA. I was on a previous generic (different company) and was doing fine on it, then i changed pharmacies and they used the Mylan brand generic (propanolol SA).
Approximately 20 minutes after taking my pill in the morning I would feel dizzy, nauseated, and had a lot of trouble concentrating. I would have slurred speech and headaches. I would lay down for an hour, and then would feel much much better until the end of the day, when i would have chest pains and dizziness.
I was switched to the name brand Inderal LA and have not had a single problem with it. I feel so much better. Please be careful with generic drugs! i have learned my lesson!
Sharon C.
I have had many bad experiences with generic antidepressants. One pharmacy switched generics on me and I crashed in 24 hours, and was completely unable to function.
Most recently, my “insurer” switched me from Wellbutrin XL 300 to the generic crap. In one month I was back where I started after years of being in good shape. They also switched my blood pressure medication from Norvasc to the generic crap, and I ended up with very high blood pressures. They won’t cover the other good one for me, so I’m on something that is sort of functioning.
My Wellbutrin costs me $400 every three months! No amount of letters from my physician will make any impression on them. After all, I “Choose” to take the brand name, so I should have to pay the price!
I think they just want me to die and get off their rolls.
MikeG
The Wellbutrin XL generic (budeprion XL) is definitely not the same as the name brand. I have noticed decreased energy with the generic as well as a decrease in libido. Why won’t the FDA listen to us human users of this drug and take our complaints more serious.
eric h.
I have been a chronic pain sufferer for 7 years now w/ bi-lateral foot problems and mu job keeps me on my feet 8-12 hours a day. my problem is with generic oxycontin in the 20 Mg. form, it is supposed to offer relief for 12 hours but I find after taking one I have the pain come back in as little as 4 to 6 hours, then I am stuck in a quandary, do I take another and relieve the pain and have my doctors think I am abusing the drug or do I just suffer?
this is a problem like everything else made in foreign lands, no measure of control and bottom line, greed. I am sure millions of others have the same problem but haven’t come forth yet, my advise is stand up for your self, tell your doctor, tell your insurance co. and boot these cheap nasty , in effective drugs out of this country. this is America, we are the best so we deserve the best! go get em’ thanks Eric
Linda B
Is there a way to get Bupropion off the generic list for Wellbutrin. Everything I have read on it, it is NOT a true generic. I’m not against generics if they work, but I had been taking Wellbutrin XL 300 for years and I felt like I was having a real life.
When Bupropion came on the market due to my insurance they switched me. I have been fighting migraines and after I was put on Lyrica I got them under control, then started getting them again and couldn’t understand why. I believe the reason behind it was being switched to the Bupropion.
I, like many others, feel that the Bupropion DOES NOT WORK. While taking this drug, my depression (word used to describe many of the feeling that go along with the word, you all know them) came back, wondered why I felt so bad.
My doctor’s office got my insurance company to ok Wellbutrin, but I have to pay the difference and I can’t afford to
Is there a process to get this SO CALLED GENERIC off the market? If there is we should all band together and even get the doctors involved and the people that make Wellbutrin to get this, sorry folks but no other word for it, CRAP off the market. ANY IDEAS
Shelly
I had an awful experience when my insurance company forced me to go to the generic form of Wellbutrin xl. The major symtom that I experienced was INSOMNIA!!! I have switched back to the name brand, and still am having trouble with being totally unable to get drowsy or relaxed enough to sleep. I have to take sleep aids — and somehow just pass out after a while. . . Hoping that once the name brand is back in my system I will be able to rest again!
SAM
I am in charge of purchasing at a small, independent pharmacy and after the backlash of patient complaints about the switch from Wellbutrin XL 300mg to Budeprion (TEVA), I refuse to stock the TEVA brand. Instead we stock Watson brand Bupropion XL 300mg. Watson is a subsidiary of GlaxoSmithKline- who makes the brand name. I noticed the size, shape and color of the watson generic closely resemble the brand name pills (unlike the huge, yellow, powdery tablets). I also stock only Greenstone sertraline as it is owned and operated by Phizer. Again, size, shape and color almost exact as brand name. It’s not the cheapest of all, but i don’t want to distribute “gray-market” medicines to our patients, especially when it’s affecting the chemicals of someone’s brain… I defend my bottom line by assuring quality CARE for our patients.
cmd
Does any one know who manufactures the generic fluoxetine for Walmart vs. CVS? I have recently switched from CVS to Walmart due to pricing and am really feeling the difference, Much more teary, aggrevated, sad. Even with an increase in dose the Walmart med is not holding off my depression.
SML
I was taking wellbutrin 300 xl which was wonderful! Then, my insurance stoped covering the name brand. I was switched to Teva’s budeprion xl 300 and it is not the same. I have no sex drive anymore, throw up ALOT, and just feel blah.
I don’t want to get up some days, and most days I don’t even feel like interacting with my friends. Also, I am extremely irritable and snappy on this drug. Something isn’t right with this generic and I wish something would be done about it. I was shocked to see how many other people had the same problems.
J.G.
When I began taking Wellbutrin SR years ago, I was quite pleased with it had on my depression. However, my prescription company made me switch to the generic Bupropion when it became available, and for as much as they told me that the generic would work the same as the name brand, it absolutely did not.
Not only did my depressive symptoms return while on the generic, but I was sluggish and felt the need to sleep all the time. And, as an additional nasty little side effect, I gained 10 lbs in just under a month, with no notable change in my eating habits.
Once I switched back to the Wellbutrin name brand, my depression went away again and I was able to go on living a relatively normal life.
I am thankful that I realized that it was the generic that was causing the problem, and that I am able to afford to pay the excessive price of the name-brand. With Wellbutrin being generally more expensive than Bupropion, and in addition to the ‘Name-Brand Penalty Fee’ that my prescription company assessed when a generic alternative was available, I was being charged about 850% of the cost of the generic, just for the privilege of taking a name brand. (About $300 instead of $35.)
But what about the people who CAN’T afford the name brand? Is it fair that they should be forced to suffer with a nonworking generic drug, just because the insurance companies don’t want to pay for a drug that actually works? And, when you think about what it is that Wellbutrin is prescribed for – depression – is that really something that the insurance companies want to go messing around with?
While the insurance companies mandate that people take a generic substitute that doesn’t alleviate their symptoms, does that mean it’s going to take something as severe as depressed generic-drug patients committing suicide before the FDA realizes that the generic really DOESN’T work the same as the name brand?
S.F.
I was taking adderal and dexidrine for ADHD/OCD. I started getting anxiety attacks in late 2005 through 2006. Up until then, the generics had been working fine. I went off the meds in 07. The anxiety attacks went away. (symptoms of racing heart and pressure inside chest–I am female). I just cope with the ADHD/OCD without meds. Miss having brand name adderall, but it takes up a weeks pay to have it. The formula was definately changed, because I’d been taking these meds for 10 years!
Paula S.
I am diabetic with neuropathy and I am taking neurotin for the pain. I have been switched to a generic, gabepentin. which is a laugh it is not nearly as effective.my insurance will cover neurotin,but with a much higher deductable.This is a real hardship.
TLR
My doctor wants me to take calcium. My question is if it is doing more harm than good. I have an elevated PTH and when I take calcium my blood work comes back as having hypercalcemia. It doesn’t seem like the calcium goes where it is needed. Also, does this contribute to calcification cluster in the breast and other soft tissue?
Lynda
After a stressful episode in my life, I plunged into a horrible depression. I let the pharmacy at Walmart talk me into getting the generic for wellbutrin.
I paid $284.00 for 60 generic pills of BuDEprion XL 150. After two weeks I was on the internet searching for painless ways to commit suicide. I decided to ‘google’ some info on this generic drug and then realized I wasn’t the only one that wasn’t receiving the benefits from it. Due to no insurance and the horrible state of mind I was in, I wasn’t able to help myself.
A friend brought over some of her regular Wellbutin. What a difference!!!!! I had taken it at various times before, and remembered that this had happened to me once before years ago when I got a generic instead of the regular. I don’t care what the difference in price is now…..my life is worth than the difference!!!! People that tell you there is no difference in the medication do not know what they are talking about…the generic is worthless!!!!
AJ
I had been using 75 mg tablets of bupropion HCL mfg by Watson taking 2 pills in morning and one in the afternoon with excellent results. Costco pharmacy changed to the TEVA mfg bupropion so July 16 I started taking them although they smelled terrible and left an awful metallic aftertaste.
They are a yellow circular pill with numbers 93 280. By July 26th I felt the symptoms of my depression returning. I have tried to find a pharmacy that will give me the Watson mfg. bupropion for the same price as the TEVA but have not been successful.
Actually my other label had Dansbury as the mfg. however Costco says it was from Watson. I hope this may help some others out there. It is frustrating to have your world grow dark because the pills are within the acceptable variance range of the FDA.
These pills smell like poison. I have made a report to the FDA MedWatch via the net and would encourage others to report any bad experiences they have to the FDA as well.
KVG
Thank God I found this site! I have been taking the generic budeproprion XL for several weeks and have been experiencing severe anxiety and panic attacks. I did not suspect the drug initially because I have taken wellbutrin successfully in the past. I attributed the anxiety to some very stressful life events, but now I’m not so sure… Thank you all for sharing.
IH
Generic Ambien (zolpidem):
After about three months or more of using different manufacturer’s products, severe headaches and fatigue are the rule of the day (not to mention nightmares and muscular tension).
Prasco (the only manufacturer which was closest to the brand product) was discontinued months ago. I can barely think, and I have just received a grant for my non-government environmental work. I got a “Dispense as written” prescription today, and this may be the last night of mental and physical pain and discomfort attributable to:
Lack of sleep
Nightmares
Severe Headaches
Dizziness, lightheadedness
Exhaustion
THE LIST GOES ON.
Thank you for helping me realize the problem, people!
Carol Spera
I read the Graedon’s column every day and have gotten some good advise over the years. Today’s column addressed leg cramp suffering.
I, too, have had this problem, but my chiropracter (years ago) suggested I take a supplement Called B6-Plus(tm) this is a formulation with Magnesium and Potassium, manufactured by Anabolic Laboratories. I take one a day, two maximum. If I forget and get leg cramps at night, I take one then, this always alleves the cramping.
I hope this helps someone else out there.
A.G.
I had problems with the generic for the Ortho Tri-cylen birth control pill including bleed-through, worsened PMS symptoms, cramping, etc. Very unfortunate, since with my prescription plan, I would be paying $10-15 per month for the generic and I now pay $50 per month for the brand name version.
Theresa D
I was prescribed Nitro-Dur patch for chest pain and for the first time in years I was able to walk without pain. When I had my prescription refilled they refilled it with a generic made by MYLAN. All of my symptoms returned. I happened to see a segment on the Today show about generics for cardiac problems and I started to wonder if that was the problem. My doctor switched me back to Nitro-Dur and my chest pain and shortness of breath disappeared.
F.D.
I have been taking sertraline for several years now. At first I was taking real Zoloft. Later, I was moved to the generic from TEVA, which at times seemed to be of varying quality (in appearance and function both). In particular, I seemed to have some manic episodes, and particularly libido-related problems.
Recently, we moved to another town, and the generic supplied was supposedly by Mylan. However, as I purchased the 90-day supply, two different tablets were provided, one labeled “This is the same medication you have been getting. Color, size or shape may appear different.” As it turns out, some were Mylan, and some were Ranbaxy. As you may know, Ranbaxy has been under investigation for three years for possible substandard generics!
At any rate, the Mylan version seems to have cut down significantly on the manic and libido issues. But, I don’t think it’s because it’s working correctly. Rather, I think it’s not working nearly as well as the real Zoloft. I have returned to the same exact issues that caused me to seek medical help in the first place–Anxiety, sleeplessness, depression, etc. It wasn’t until I started to research the difference in the pills that I came across this site and realized that my meds had stopped working. I mean, I had noticed things weren’t right, but until that moment I didn’t put my finger on the fact that virtually all of my symptoms from five years ago were back with a vengeance!
This whole generic thing is just so dangerous! I live close to the border, and have read the reports in the national press about counterfeit prescription medications coming in. Who knows what we are really ingesting? This whole generic thing is just so dangerous! FDA really needs to get its act together before it costs us lives (if it hasn’t already).
S
I have been taking a low dose of Prozac since 1990. Last year I was trying to save money and finally consented to get the generic. After about a month I was so edgy, spacy, and out of balance that I called the doctor and asked whether the generic was the same, as I felt like I was on some kind of drug.
While he said that there wasn’t “supposed” to be any difference, he had had other patients with similar reactions, and he wrote a replacement prescription for brand-only. Soon after going back on the real Prozac, I felt like my old self.
SG
Kaiser switched me from the brand Levsin to the generic for IBS. The Levsin worked great and was a huge relief. The generic doesn’t work at all.
Unfortunately, now there is a shortage of Levsin as several manufacturers stopped producing it–probably due to the prescribing of generics and subsequent loss in profits.
The combination of the push for generics without proper oversight from the FDA means that the public gets short-changed. The insurance companies want to save money and try to convince the public that generics are the same as the original brands. It’s a huge lie. Who’s watching out for the consumer?
Vicky
I was recent changed from named brand Klonopin to the generic Clonazepam, I took the first one and I had a horrible experience whereas I had severe digestive irritation and diarhea even when taken with plenty of food. I have never had a reaction like this and was expecting it to be that bad. I thought it would be the same as named brand but NO!
I THINK THAT ALL GENERICS SHOULD HAVE THE SAME (INACTIVE INGREDIENTS) AND HAVE THE EXACT THING AS THE NAMED BRAND, IT SHOULD BE THE LAW. WHY SHOULD I HAVE TO SUFFER WHEN THESE COMPANIES ARE ALLOWED BY THE FDA TO USE ADDITIVES THAT ARE NOT THE SAME?
I am still trying to get the named brand as that is all I can take,and the reason I had to switch to start with was due to my insurance.
Please make Klonopin in generic with the SAME inactive ingredients. I know the active ingredient is Clonazepam but all the other companies get away with putting whatever they want it their inactive ingredients that cause some of us to suffer severely!!!
kjs
My insurance company switched my Wellbutrin XL to the generic form. On day 2 all of my symptoms of ocd came back.
I called my doctor to rewrite the rx to only the brand name. I am hoping this is possible and that I can get this medication asap vs. 3 months through mail order.
Thank you for this website as well.
LHJ
I had taken Zocor for 16 years and when the generic became available at the start of 2007 I was switched to simvastatin. Shortly after switching I started to experience muscle weakness and pain. In April 2007 I was diagnosed with Poly Myalgia Rheumatica.
I was told by my doctor that there was no connection with switching to the generic. At first he acknowledged that my PMR was statin related, but has since taken that thought back and is trying to get me to go back on a statin. This last 1-1/2 years has been pure hell and I am resisting this. He says I am going to have a heart attack and when that happens I will be forced to take them. He says he ethically cannot treat me.
RJM
I was on Lipitor for approximately 6 years. I got regular blood tests. After one one the tests my doctor told me to stop taking the medication. I did. Within 2 weeks, I developed blood clots and had a pulmonary embolism. I had been on an aspirin regiment for over 15 years. I drank lots of cranberry juice and ate a lot of veggies containing vitamin K. I believe that coming off the Lipitor cold turkey caused my near death. Has anyone else ever heard of this happening to anyone else? My “new” doctor discounted the idea that the statin drug caused it. Thanks.
CR
Taking generic AllegraD is a waste of time. Only 1/2 of it dissolves, the rest passes thru your system intact.
GJH
I have been taking Felodipine 5 mg ER mp for a long time. Refilled my medication at my pharmacy and received a yellow pill not a pink one with the letters myl after the name.
Spoke with the pharmacist who stated it was the same medication but a different manufacture. Found out it also has different properties in it. I would constantly break out in cold sweats after taking this pill. When I stopped taking it the out breaks of cold sweats stopped.
CH
TEVA bupropion XL300 worked great for me! I feel more stable emotionally than ever. Anchen XL300 did nothing to help with depression and may have made me more anxious. There is a difference.
Wally
My problem is with Paroxetine HCL (generic Paxil). I have been taking this drug for several years with excellent results. Recently the supplier used by CVS pharmacy was changed from Apotex to Aurobindo. I was not the least bit concerned about this since I believed that generic drugs were all the same and suppliers had been changed before with no ill effects to me.
I was wrong. Suddenly the dosage I was using was just not doing the job. All my pre-Paxil symptoms began to reappear. It was then that I started to do some research and began to find out that others had been having similar problems. Thank goodness for this site. If not for you and the few others that exist, I would have thought it was just me.
Fortunately the people at CVS have been very nice and have agreed to order the Apotex supplied drug for me since it is still available at their warehouse. Hopefully things will return to normal when my next refill comes in.
Judith P
Awful, this started with my insurance company’s insistance that I be switched from Wellbutrin XL 150 to generic SR claiming they were the same. I am bipolar and spent a month in hell rapid cycling and trying with all I had NOT to throw my phone across the room as I spoke to someone who was perhaps 16 at my insurance company.
My psychiatrist finally wrote to my insurance company, claiming medical necessity and they reluctantly switched it back. This past month I noticed I received a generic XL 150, and I have thought it was me for the last month! Again, agitated, depression creeping in, and what feels remarkably like a mixed state coming on after MONTHS of stability.
Absolutely, positively this is awful. I am beyond upset that we pay this kind of money, work this hard to maintain ourselves as citizens and THIS is what I have to deal with? Hopefully I can once again get my doctor involved, but shame on the FDA and the drug companies for making a profit on my sanity or as they would have it, lack thereof.
j
Generic Ambien (Zolpidiem) – doesn’t work anywhere near as well for sleep as the name brand. Totally does not keep me from waking up in the middle of the night like name brand Ambien does. Also seems to cause a major migraine the next day until evening time. The headache is not worth the sleeping help, it is such a bad headache. I get no such headache with the name brand
j
My brand name wellbutrin 150mg XL was replaced in June 2008 with a generic ‘budeprion’ manufactured by TEVA – white small pills, supposedly still 150mg xl wellbutrin ‘generic’ version – within 2 days of starting the medication it felt obvious that it was not working.
As the days went by, I experienced migraine headaches, return of depresssion, exhaustion, listlessness, grogginess, sleeplessness and weight gain. At first I thought maybe I had a flu, or something similar, then I started thinking it had to be something like Lyme Disease or west nile virus, because I felt horrible and it went on and on, but as the days and then weeks went by, I realized that the generic wellbutrin was not working at all, and I had experienced a full-fleged ‘sledgehammer’ return of the depression, as well as additional side effects of nausea, headache and weight gain that were daily occurrences.
This generic wellbutrin does not work at all, and in addition to it not relieving the depression, it added several difficult side effects that I did not have with the name brand
Robyn Shelton
I’m working on a story about concerns that some generic drugs don’t work as well as the originals. I would like to talk with Florida residents who think they’ve had problems with a generic medicine. You can reach me at rshelton@orlandosentinel.com. Thanks for your willingness to share your experience. I would need to use your first and last name, so only respond if you’re willing to be quoted by name. Thanks again.
yw
Generic ambien from certain suppliers does not work. I brought my bottle back to my pharmacy and he said they buy from several different companies. this is ridiculous, will someone recognize that the contents aren’t the same?
JB
I was taking Ativan (lorazepam) to help me sleep. I took it on and off for years and it worked extremely well. My insurance suddenly required that I use the generic form but after taking the generic form I became nauseous, with my heart racing and skipping (and at 1/4 the dose).
My doctor told me to try it once again, which I did reluctantly, and I had the same reaction. I threw the medication out. There is no question in my mind that I received an inferior product. I read online that some companies add cement as a filler. I will never again purchase generics if I have a choice.
CN
I had been taking name brand Zoloft for several years with good results and very few side effects. Then, because of insurance policies I was switched to the generic version. I am a registered nurse and this was fine with me since I expected the name brand and generic versions of Zoloft to be exactly the same.
Within several weeks though I had no energy and no interest in daily activities at all. Just getting out of bed required a huge effort. Even then I did not suspect that the generic drug was the cause. It was my doctor who suggested that I go back on the name brand drug. Within a week I felt MUCH better. I’ve been on name brand Zoloft ever since then and have had no problems at all.
Karen O
Wellbutrin generic. I tried taking this drug a year ago. I lasted one week. My head was spinning constantly making me nauseated and I was unable to focus on the smallest task.
RLB
my husband has been taking brand-name zoloft because of depression suffered from a stroke which happened during his open-heart surgery in 1999.
a couple of months ago, he was switched to generic sertraline and his depression and crying has come back.
RLB
Gina M.
I have been taking Wellbutrin XL 150 mg for the past 2 years. Last month I went to pick up my prescription at Walmart and they dispensed the generic. I thought I’d give it a try and save $35 per month. What a nightmare…the worst side effect is the extreme hunger I feel all day long no matter what I eat.
I’ve also experienced intense anger and irritability. I called the pharmacy today and they told me to call the doctor’s office. I called my doctor and nothing was changed in the way the prescription was written, so I called the pharmacy back, and they stated that “dispense as written” must be on every prescription refill.
This generic is HORRIBLE! The FDA should really take a look at the numerous complaints about TEVA’s generic Wellbutrin.
MMC
I have taken Lopressor for years. When the generic came out, Metoprolol (tartrate) I started that and for the most part, it controlled my pressure well for many years. It seems to not be working right lately and not controlling my pressure. I had my doctor write for “brand only”, but the insurance co-pay would be higher than paying myself. I take it twice a day and it is not controlling my pressure between doses like it used to. I feel something is different, but the professionals will not admit there could be a problems with this. After all, it’s all about the money.
mmc
ADB
I was put on Elavil in 1980 to help me get a more restful sleep at night and it helped me so much to wake up in the morning feeling like I had a good nights sleep…well, about five years ago now Elavil stopped being manufactured, so they have a generic for it…I have had problems with the generic form of some manufacturers…but I found one that works not as good as Elavil, but as close as I could get and that is the one made by Qualitest…I am thankful that there is one mfg. that makes a good quality Amitryptilline…generic for Elavil.
bs
I was all my life not responsive to generic formulas of Ativan. For long time my condition was helped by brand Wyeth Ativan. In 2003 Biovail acqired rights to the drug . Since then I have problem with not generics version of Ativan but even brand name medication. Since 2004 i became very ill ,because of the changes done to the drug.
Sharon M.
Last January my doctor gave me Augmentin (generic) which I thought would be fine since it was amoxicillin-based and I’ve never had problems with that drug. I got hives after taking the second dose, so discontinued that and the next day my doctor gave me Zithromax, which I had taken many times previously. (bronchitis and pneumonia).
The pharmacy gave me generic zithromax, and after only one dose I awoke at 5 am having troble swallowing … had someone take me to the emergency room. Luckily for both drugs I had benadryl in the house to take immediately upon these reactions.
I strongly believe that the generic zithromax had something additional in its formulation to cause this allergic reaction. I’m now afraid to take any medications. Thank you for reporting this!
K.S.
I feel completely confident that the generic brand of Wellbutrin 300, does not work nearly as well as the name brand. I have been on Wellbutrin XL 300 for about 4 years. When my mail order pharmacy started sending me generic, I noticed an increase in my depressive symptoms. I am much more easily irritated, cry easier, don’t deal with stress as well, sleep longer than I need to, have less energy and motivation.
My doctor’s office didn’t help either, with them getting confused and calling in the generic to a mail order pharmacy for a 3 MONTH SUPPLY, after I had faxed, called and made it perfectly clear that I needed name brand.
Now, my insurance has been terminated and they wrote me a new RX for name brand, but how am I to afford that when my husband just got laid off?!! It’s very frustrating! I totally agree with all the other experiences I have been reading about!
Arizona
Ocella, a generic for the birth control Yasmin is nausiating to the point of having to miss work. Pretty unfair seeing that instead of dropping the price on the generic they kept it at Yasmin’s previous level and doubled Yasmin’s price.
dfw
My pharmacy substituted generic Ambien. I immediately noticed the new formula took over 2 hours to make me drowsy. Additionally, I had very disturbing dreams that left me exhausted in the morning. Over a 6-week period, I tried the drug 5 more times, then called my doctor to have my prescription changed to the name drug, in spite of the much higher cost (Gotta sleep!).
jh
I was taking prednisone from local pharmacy and I too changed to mailorder. I was prescribed generic and I also experienced severe problems. I am still now over 2 months later trying to recover and walk. It seems to have affected my muscles (myopathy) and I know this is a toxic reaction. I called Medicare RX and they knew about this. However, the public does not know! The word needs to get out and people’s lives WILL BE saved!
Maybe we need to stop taking ALL medications if they don’t help ALL the patients!!
Drena H.
I have atrial fibrillation/flutter. My cardiologist prescribed brand name Tambocor and my heart rhythm remained under good control until the pharmacy refilled my prescription with generic flecainide, and I again developed irregular rhythm. Brand name Tambocor was resumed, and I have had no problem since. I also take brand name Tylenol with codeine #4 as needed for back pain, which gives me considerable relief. When the pharmacy once replaced it with a generic version of acetaminophen with codeine #4, it might as well have been jelly beans for all the good it did. It didn’t even take the edge off the pain. I don’t trust generics.
RQ
My Dr. gave me a 6 week supply of Wellbutrin XL 150. It worked wonderfully! When I went to fill my prescription I thought I’d use the generic Buproprion to save some money. BIG mistake. Within a 10 day period I began feeling drastically out of control with depression, and I was angry, which was a new feeling. My Dr. gave me more brand name samples, and it cleared up within 2 weeks.
I switched insurance, which will not pay for my depression meds, so I decided to try the new and “improved” generic Budeprion. BIG mistake again! I’m about 15 days into the Budeprion and I just went back to the Pharmacy to get the Wellbutrin name brand. I just paid $171 for a 30-day supply, versus $66 for the generic. What the heck!!! Get these generics off the market, whatever differences there are make ALL the difference in the world for depression sufferers.
bk
I have a concern about 2 drugs that my doctor recently prescribed. I take Wellbutrin XL by Glaxo Smith Kline. That is fine, but was still having problems sleeping due to my anxiety. The doc prescribed Trazadone, which I had taken before with fantastic results. This time I had a rapid heart beat and insomnia. He then put me on a generic for remeron 15 mg. I took one pill and slept very soundly, but was in a daze all day the next day. I tried 1/2 pill and got the same result. I then took a fourth of a pill and it was ok.
Both of the generic drugs are made by Teva, which is the same manufacturer as the wellbutrin generic that was ineffective for people. I was wondering if others have had this problem.
Kelly G.
I have taken Wellbutrin XL 300 mg for about 2 years. I felt great. No side effects, and I was happy and in great shape. Then the generic was approved and I tried it. For the first month or so I was fine, but after that I had no ambition for life in general; which is not like me at all! I went back to the name brand and felt 100% better. I pay more for it, but it is worth it! THE FDA MUST TAKE THE GENERIC BRAND OFF THE PHARMACY SHELVES ASAP!!!!!
Fred S.
I have RLS and have been taking two different doses of a drug called Carbidopa for about about six years. Carbidopa is generic for Sinemet. I had been getting the drugs locally until my medical program requried that I use Medco.
Here is the the problem–when I switched to Medco, they switched manufacturers of the Carbidopa. I noticed a change within a few nights and called thinking they gave me the wrong medication, as this did happen once previously. Medco has assured me that the medications are indeed correct and the dosage is in fact the same as what I was taking.
After six months, I have many of the night time symptoms that I had when I first realized I had RLS. I have tried to get Medco to switch me back to the other generic, however they insist that Apotex is the same. My neurologist after six months has decided that I need to go on a more expensive brand name Requip since Medco will not change. The cost of Requip is four times the cost of the generic. After switching to Requip I am back to getting a full night’s sleep. All generics are not equal, regardless of what we are told. I was happy with my generic Carbidopa; now I am faced with higher costs, and so is Medco and my medical program.
KJW
About 4 weeks ago, I started taking generic wellbutrin, bupropion 300mg. I had not been able to put my finger on it until today, but slowly I have been experiencing all of the old symptoms of depression again and intense anxiety. Looking back, I am positive that it is generic vs. brand issue. I will be calling my doctor first thing tomorrow!I don’t care what the FDA says, there is a difference!
Kellene H.
I’ve had problems with both Wellbutrin XL and its generic form, as well as two pain relievers after recent root canals – Darvocet N100 and Vicodin – the generic forms of both of these made me extremely nauseous for over a day, and yet did not even relieve the pain, so my recovery was made even worse and I couldn’t work. The generic Wellbutrin buproprion that I got had such a strong and vinegar-like odor when I opened the jar that I had never experienced with the name brand that I stopped taking it altogether. I was able to get back on the name brand with my doc’s help, but am paying a premium price through my “insurance” coverage.
FBB
My husband had been on Lasix for the past 2+ yrs. complaining of itching on legs and arms. Finally his internist switched him to Edecrin and the problem was greatly reduced.
Likewise he had been taking Coumadin but when he switched pharmacies he was put onto Warfarin. Lo and behold his protime levels began to go all over the chart. His cardiologist said, “I want you on Coumadin period”. And so he is back on Coumadin and the problem is eliminated.
It’s horrible that the fillers put into the generics can play havoc with your bodily systems. There should be much more control on both generic medications and regular name brand medications produced both in and out of this country.
But then the question arises whether the health insurance companies will be willing to pay the added price for a non-generic drug even if it is prescribed by their doctor. Because of health insurance companies pushing and in some instances forcing people, indirectly, to purchase generic drugs, I think the time has come to have a National Health Plan for every citizen in the USA.
Jane R.
The missing piece in the question of generic drugs is that they are not compounded in the same way. A generic may have the same ingredients as the original, but if the ingredients are not compounded in the same order, then the breakdown or metabolization of the drug is NOT the same. To work the same way, a copy of a drug must be not only the same ingredients but must be compounded together the same way in order to break down the same. Chemical bonds are different if not.
MP
I took name brand Lopressor for years for an irregular heartbeat and to help keep my blood pressure down. I switched to a generic because it was cheaper and I had no insurance. That generic worked fine; then a few months ago the pill looked different, and I was told that the supplier had been changed. That generic caused my heart to beat so fast that I had to go to the hospital. My doctor has now prescribed the non-generic version again and I am just fine.
Angelica F.
I’ve been taking Metformin for so long I can’t remember when I was switched to it from the brand form.
I basically stick to my same eating habits, so when my blood sugar runs high, I know it’s due to the medication, in this case, Metformin. One time I had severe stomach cramps and headaches, so I called to talk to the Walgreens pharmacy that I deal with and told them my reaction to the current batch of Metformin; they told me that it was impossible that anything was wrong with the medication and that I was wrong.
I ended up not taking that medicine and tossed the remaining dosages away, and switched to a different pharmacy – Osco. It wasn’t long after that time that there was a recall on the Metformin (as told to me by the Osco pharmacist). I am currently back with Walgreens and taking Metformin again, in the 500 mg dosage 3 times a day (1 in the am and 2 in the pm). My current Metformin has my blood sugar running high again so I know it’s a faulty compound again; this faulty compound occurs about every 2-3 months for me.
When I first started taking the brand name (Glucophage), I had such perfect blood sugars and was happy to have at last found the perfect medicine to control my blood sugars. The insurance that I have disallows any name brand medications. Needless to say, this on again/off again of having good blood sugar control gets old using generics. Metformin is mfg by TEVA – which I’ve been taking for many years.
CB
I have many problems with generics also. I have chronic pain, fibro etc. and I take oxycontin. When they switched me to generic, I didn’t know what hit me. It did nothing to help the pain, so I also pay for the brand at $500 per month. Also some manufacturers of percocet give me asthma. I found one generic that worked, so my pharmacist orders that generic for me. The last few months, noticed it was making me have asthma again. Why is the same maker putting out different pills. They are sometimes smaller and thinner. I saw a report that different countries were making out medicines with not much oversight. Is that true? For the person like me, who has trouble with generics, it’s a crime! Any suggestions?
Thanks
Michele P
I had been taking Wellbutrin XL 300 mg for the last 6 months, feeling the best I ever have felt in 20 yrs of taking antidepressants. Last week the pharmacy switched my refill to budprion XL 300. I have begun to sweat profusely, cry uncontrollably and itch severely. What is up with this? I feel like a breakdown is coming on.
LC
My mother started having weird feelings – dizzyness, unbalance, etc. She went to the emergency room and was told she had vertigo – they gave her dramamine. Nothing helped. Then she realized she had recently been put on a generic form of Effexor made by Novopharm. She realized that she was having those weird withdrawal effects too (swishes in the head). As soon as she went back on the real effexor all the side effects went away. We think perhaps the generic equivalent doesn’t have the same potency as the real one.
Suzanne
I have been on Ambien for a couple of years for chronic insomnia. I learned about the generic version from the pharmacist and received a refill which did hardly anything for me. I returned the unused portion and had them refill it with brand name.
NMW
I was so relieved to find I was not the only one who had problems with Budeprion XL. My symptoms crept into my thyroid. Thousands of dollars later (from tests on my thyroid (including thyroid scan, thryoid uptake and ultimately, biopsy… diagnoisis was originally hyperthyroid via TSH irregularity), I have stopped taking this generic and feel myself again. My thyroid symptoms have disappeared and I am now “well.” My symptoms began as extreme loss of energy, severe depression, tightness in neck, rapid heartbeat, anxiety… and a host of other symptoms that made me wish to leave this earth. I am angry that this drug has not been taken off the market and will stay tuned to see if anything will be done. This generic drug almost killed me.
rjc
I’d like to understand why someone who could “tolerate” one generic brand could have such an adverse reaction to another generic brand?
Are there others out there like me going through the same thing?
Thank You Help Nancy
Nancy,
Yes. It happened to me. I have bipolar disorder and was eventually stabilized on Wellbutrin XL 300 mg and Lamictal 50 mg. When it became available, Medco switched me from Wellbutrin XL 300 mg to Teva Budeprion XL 300 mg. I experienced no mood shift whatsoever and eventually went hypersexual. My doctor insists the hypersexuality was not the result of the change in medication but simply a side effect of bipolar disorder. But I don’t believe this. I think the Teva triggered me into hypersexuality, but I didn’t have any complaints about this happening.
Then one day Medco switched me from Teva Budeprion XL 300 mg to Anchen Buproprion Hcl XL 300 mg. I did not experience any mood shift, but after two days on Anchen I lost all hypersexuality, experienced psychogenic erectile dysfunction, and an immediate change in bowel habits (going from once a day to 5 or 6 times a day).
I eventually realized it was caused by the Anchen. The very day of switching back to Teva I went back to once a day bowel habit, but it took me several months for psychogenic erectile dysfunction to go away after discontinuing Anchen. Hypersexuality never came back, but this was an unnatural state to be in anyway.
No question there can be dramatic changes in some people when switching from brand to generic and generic to generic. In my case, I had no problem switching from brand to Teva but was really messed up switching from Teva to Anchen.
I am back on Teva. My doctor writes “Teva brand medically necessary” on my prescriptions and Medco accepts this. So even Medco acknowledges that different brands of generics can produce radically different effects in some people.
Hope this helps some.
Eunice
I was changed to a new generic version of Zocor by MEDCO. The one I was on worked great (from a local store, LDL was 40). The new Simvastin pill apparently did not work, and now my LDL is 94. The Dr. temporarily doubled my dose. Two times nothing isn’t likely to work either, and I am angry. If it doesn’t work, and I happen to still be living, we are going back to ZOCOR. If I am not, then my descendents can take care of getting an answer.
twh
I am a retired physician–U of C, Harvard, Yale–in general, I have no problem with generics–yet I myself have had multiple direct personal experience that generic susbstitutes for Zoloft do not work well for me. I begin to get the serotonin deprivation syndrome (which is very, very, very unpleasant.) I now take Lexapro for insurance reasons (there is no generic).
Patricia M M
Since purchasing generic Prilosec, I have had 2 episodes of severe heartburn & reflux. I have taken Prilosec since it became OTC & have not had a single episode of heartburn with the name brand. I have not good experiences with generics.
LAD
I have taken Zoloft for about 2 years when the generic came out and was switched to the generic prescription. After about 1 month on the generic, I began to have the symptoms that occur when you come off of Zoloft. After 2 months I began to have panic attacks again. I decided to switch back to name brand, and they do not make it easy, I had to call the doctor to okay it, and pay the extra expense now. I feel a lot better now that I am on name brand, but it is absolutly stupid that I have to suffer by paying more for the medicine that actually works. Something needs to be done and fast.
S.E.N.
Recently, my pharmacy switched manufacturers for generic adderall from Barr to Corepharma. I have been taking the Barr generic adderall for 5 years. I noticed a dramatic difference in effectiveness in the two generics. The Corepharma feels as though the pill contains less active ingredient than the Barr pill. The Corepharma pill is less effective at improving attentiveness and concentration. Also, the Corepharma generic only lasts about an hour compared to the Barr, which lasts 4 hours. I relayed my concerns to my doctor and he told me that many of his patients had complained about the Corepharma generic adderall. He ended up prescribing me brand name adderall. He also said that some of his patients had complained that the Corepharma generic seemed to release all its active ingredient in the first hour, making the user sick to their stomach.
Many pharmacies have been switching to using only Corepharma generic adderall. Also, the Corepharma costs significantly less than the Barr generic adderall. $73 vs. $123
NANCY_E
This website along with everyone’s feedback showed me I wasn’t going crazy and not alone.
There was a definite change in the way I felt my first month on generic “TEVA” Wellbutrin and no Internet information available about their side effects. The change wasn’t anything so significant that I couldn’t live with paying $10 instead of $200 and spending the extra $190 on something for myself, or my 1880’s home.
Everything changed 06/01 when the pharmacy gave me generic ”Watson” Wellbutrin.
I noticed the pill looked different, but thought nothing about it until I started thinking and acting differently.
The “Watson” generic Wellbutrin made me feel and do things I have never felt or done before.
I thought maybe I’m having a bad couple of weeks, but when I smashed my Miracle-Gro garden feeder into smithereens because it was leaking water, I knew something seriously was wrong.
I’d like to understand why someone who could “tolerate” one generic brand have such an adverse reaction to another generic brand?
Are there others out there like me going through the same thing?
Thank You Help Nancy
LMP
I have been on PaxilCR for the past 5 years, and the last time I went to have my prescription filled, the pharmacist informed me that there is now a generic equivalent. Since my husband had just lost his job, I jumped on it since it saved me $30, and from what I have always heard, there is no difference in generic and brand name. I have always been sleepier than usual on PaxilCR, and usually need a 2-3 hour nap most days, but now I am sleepy 24/7 – this is horrible – and I’ve also noticed that I seem to be feeling depressed, which I NEVER do with the brand name, and am more nervous than usual. I’ll be visiting my Rx tomorrow to get my little PINK pills back!
Phillip H.
I was taking 7 1/2 MG of Enalapril daily for 2 years. This past Feb. upon renewing a prescription, my BP started going up to 165-175. I complained to the pharmacy, to no avail. I now take Altace 10 MG and have normal BP readings.
PGV
My son has been taking the generic version of Zoloft for
the past year. The pharmacy automatically gave us the generic for the original RX. Over the course of the year the “generic” mfg has changed 4 times!!! While we originally noticed improvement in the drugs, we have seen greater inconsistincy in his behavior. Just this week his doctor told us to request that he only be given the Zoloft brand as he believes that the changes in his behaviors is due to the differences in generics vs name brands.
KMM
I have been on the birth control pill seasonale for three years. One year ago, I switched insurance companies and the pharmacist began giving me the generic version. I have been on three different generics since then. I have had a lot of side effects with the generic drugs. I have had cramping and more break through bleeding. Since I have endometriosis, the extended cycle pill works best but the generics are not working. The worst side effect has been severe night sweats. I have to change my bed sheets at least once a night and have resorted to sleeping on towels to absorb the moisture. When reporting this to my doctors, they sent me to an oncologist fearing lymphoma. After numerous tests, the only thing that my night sweats can be attributed to is the generic brand of birth control. I have switched back to Seasonale and have no symptoms.
Ron S.
I’ve taken Toprol XL for years for BP and rapid heart rate. Last month, my Dr. OK’d generic, and I was sent Metropolol Succinate. My BP went up from 120/60 to 150/70 and my pulse rate jumped back up and my heart pounds 8-10 hrs after I take the pill.
For me, at least, this is not an equivalent generic.
Susan K
After years on various versions of Welbutrin extended release, I was given one mf. by TEVA. I started having irregular heart beats, racing, fluttering, skipping, etc. 20% of all heartbeats. I went off it and they are subsiding. All heart tests are normal. Anyone else had heart issues from TEVA bupropion?
PamD
I have been taking Wellbutrin XL 300 mg for several years, but my pharmacy has changed my medication over this time from Wellbutrin XL 300 brand name to Watson Budoprion XL 300 to the current one I have been taking for 3-4 months, Teva’s Budeprion XL 300 mg. I have read the FDA says Budeprion XL 300 is bio-identical to Wellbutrin and sees no problem with this medication. The FDA’s reasoning is incorrect in my opinion, and should be reconsidered.
I have never had this type of problem with a generic medication before, and certainly don’t want to have it continue. Starting the first month I took Budeprion, I started having terrible problems with insomnia. There was a 3-day stretch where I only slept 2 hours, and then many others where I slept only a few hours each night sometime after 3am. I have always slept very well and did not have many problems with insomnia in my lifetime.
I complained to my pharmacy and finally got the Watson Bupropion XL 300, which did not give me any problems and I began to sleep again. The next 2 times I had my medication refilled, I was given Teva’s Budeprion XL, and it has been awful. The insomnia has returned, and in the last 3 weeks I have had terrible migaines recurring frequently: up to 3-4 migraines a week and sometimes 2-3 days in a row. I normally have migraines only once a year, but this is definitely a change for the worse.
To help my migraines, I have been taking Maxalt, but then I find out with SSRI and SNRI drugs taken in combination with Maxalt there can be dangerous reaction called Seratonin Syndrome. So I am reluctant to take the Maxalt.
The FDA needs to retest and investigate the drug manufactured by TEVA. There is a problem here that needs to be addressed. Yes, I do suffer from depression, but my problem with Budeprion has not been a return to depression but insomnia and headache. I must admit I have felt anxious and jittery several times, but that could be from the lack of sleep that Budrepion causes. I would like a response from the FDA regarding this medication Budeprion and the manufacurer TEVA.
Thank you.
DG
Every generic drug I take is a problem. My body just doesn’t feel right when I take a generic. A recent drug, Dicloxacillin, caused severe heartburn, and Diazepam for Valium causes a severe headache.
But one of the problems, I suspect, is pharmacies are getting a kick back for using a particular drug manufacturer’s generic drug to sell to their customers, and the kick backs are blinding pharmacists to potential problems. I suspect this from a neighborhood pharmacy.
The FDA is comprised of people who are woefully deficient in their jobs. People’s lives are at stake, yet the don’t have the capacity to investigate and/or enforce the rules.
Too bad. I plan to stick with brand only — and I don’t care that my pharmacy insurance recommend generic.
Redbeard
I also have had BAD experiences with generic drugs, both over the counter and prescription. I no longer believe that generic drugs are the same as the name brand drugs. This first came to light to me by using mycotracin (sp) for cuts and scratches. This worked great. (I am unable to locate it to purchase.) At the local RX I purchased the generic with the exact ingredients and percentages of each ingredient. It performed as if I had not placed anything on my cuts. I asked my sister if she had any problem with the generic for mycotracin, and the first words out of her mouth were “it didn’t work, did it?”
As for prescription drugs, I was on .5mg Klonopin to keep me from having seizures. It kept me seizure-free for years. When this drug went generic, I did not “feel right.” My doctor upped the dosage to 2mg of generic (a 4 times increase — to no avail!!!) that still did not work. My doctor changed to a name brand drug, and I have been seizure-free since.
The second brand was Ambien, which just went generic. I was using a 10mg dose, and when used, I would immediately be asleep and stay asleep throughout the night. Several months ago I was told by my insurance company that I must switch to the new generic drug. I did not notice it the first several weeks, but I was not sleeping well. It took a long time (1/2 – 1 hr) to go to sleep and then wake up in the middle of the night. Now I no longer believe what I have been told all my life that generics are as good as the name brand drugs.
NW
I had been taking probenecid for at least 5 years. I recieved a notice from the pharmacy about a year and a half ago that they had changed manufacturer. The new prodcut leaves me exhausted. I sleep all night and hours in the day. If I stop, I am told I will develop gout again. Pharmacy no longer prints the manufacturer on the label or handouts.
Saul N. R.Ph.
I switched from Toprol XL 100mg to generic and experienced increase in BP and chest pain late in the day. I’m switching back to brand name and filing a FDA AE report.
K.L. in New York
I just stumbled on this site yesterday and started reading about generic Wellbutrin. I’m not sure when the pharmacy switched me from the brand, and my symptoms came back slowly, so I didn’t take notice. My doctor did ask me if I thought the generic was ok, and I said I suppose so (over a year ago).
Well, I gained 25 lbs. I can’t drag myself onto the treadmill. I fall asleep at odd hours. I don’t want to do anything. Have a black lab shedding all over a light color rug and I don’t care. I can’t focus (ADD), complete any task, my hands shake really bad sometimes, I am ANGRY! and I hate everything and I hate myself for being like this and I cry a lot. And occasionaly think how nice it would be to just end it all. I’m also unemployed right now, so looking for a job is the last thing I want to do.
I’m so glad to hear that going back to the brand name will help. I’m going to have my doctor change my prescription back to the brand. (The generic was Teva, but yesterday they gave me Anchen…)
Also I have an issue with Klonopin wafers. I was on 0.50 mg of the brand, which my doctor said is most effective, even better than the tablets. I have been getting generic clonazapam which I hate, I don’t like the taste and I can’t open the packs they are in. I need scissors. My doctor said a lot of her patients don’t like the generic either. I tried to get the brand name, but no luck anywhere. I contacted the brand manufacturer, and there was an article or letter in Feb 2008 saying they have a SHORTAGE of Klonopin wafers in 2 dosage amounts (whatever THAT means). My dosage was 0.50, they only have 0.25 in stock, so I am waiting to talk to my doctor to just double the amount of pills or something. I’d rather take the brand tablets than the generic wafers. I don’t need 2 sugar pills.
Judy
About 6 months ago, my pharmacist filled my prescription with the new generic budeprion. I never thought twice about it, and was delighted to hear $5 a month. Within two months I was profoundly depressed and also experiencing things I had never experienced before. I had panic attacks, memory problems, and trouble functioning at a job I love. I became convinced Wellbutrin had stopped working for me and so I stopped taking my medicine. It never occurred to me that it might be the new generic form causing problems. I gradually improved; taking NOTHING was better than taking the budeprion. Last week I stumbled on an article about others having problems with the generic budeprion. I could hardly believe it — what I was reading, I could have written myself. The same stories over and over and over, one person after another. I visited my doctor this week and took a copy of one of the reports. He had no problem prescribing the brand name Wellbutrin. I will NEVER EVER EVER take any form of generic Wellbutrin again.
Sandy
I was healthy until the day I turned 65. I was not on any maintenance meds. After a CT scan for blood in the urine that was of undetermined origin, I started to have hypoglycemic problems. I had taken Biaxin antibiotic and after reading the insert from the pharmacy found that blood in the urine was a side affect. How do you get rid of it? Diabetes is in the family but I have monitored for years and never had those low blood sugar readings.
A visit to an endocrine doctor (changed eating habits) started me on generic Metformin ER 500MG that I have tolerated and controls the blood sugar. I take generic Lisinopril 5MG and had lightheadedness and dizzy spells for a couple hours. Cardio tests were negative for heart problems at that time. They thought I had GERD and put me on Protonix 40MG. It seemed to work ok for a few months as that feeling in the chest disappeared. However, after the Medicare Prescription D plan made me switch to the just released generic Pantoprazole SOD TB 40MG, I started having rapid heart beat within several days. Back to the cardio who did more testing and could not find damage to the heart. At that time, I stopped the generic and, of course, my acid reflux problem is returning.
I have kept a health file for a couple years. I document dosage changes, start or stop drugs, and how I feel. While I do not have a medical background, I feel the generic Protonix gave me a problem unless one of my doctors has missed something. I bring my charts with me to my appointments.
I read with interest the column in today’s paper. I have noticed the burning on the soles of my feet after spending a couple hours walking around the grocery store. I have worn tie shoes with socks and sandals. Are there certain foods that you need to eat to make sure your Vitamin B-12 is not deficient? Could this burning be linked with the arthritis in my knees as they also ache after being on my feet and doing a lot of walking? I do not take meds for arthritis at this time.
BD
I spent 6 months on Lexapro 20 mg. after receiving a diagnosis of having dysthymia. I gained 50 pounds in that 6 months and recently asked the doctor to change my prescription to Wellbutrin due to the fact that it does not make you gain weight. Without asking if I had a preference, the pharmacy filled my prescription with the generic Budeprion XL 300.
I accepted the generic because of the substantial cost difference, $10.00 as apposed to $60.00, but now I am upset that I did. I am experiencing the horrible symptoms of my dysthymia. Thoughts of worthlessness and thinking bad of everyone and everything. Dwelling on thoughts of painful events that have happened in my past. Life is terrible for me right now.
I was such a happy person while on Lexapro and didn’t think of my past experiences at all but only thought of the future, onward and upward. I am going to refill my prescription with the real Wellbutrin to see if there is a difference, if not I am going to request the Lexapro again. I can’t give up my quality of life over having to pay an extra $50.00.
Veronica A W
I was taking a generic for Zoloft through my local Albertson’s pharmacy. When I obtained a refill, I noticed the pill was slightly smaller but did not think much more about it at the time. After about a week of taking the new refill I started having headaches and general discomfort including a shift in my mood; i.e. more tense. I looked at my bottle and noticed the manufacturer was different. (TEVA or TEVU) I contacted the pharmacist to question the change who denied changing companies. However, when I phoned later and spoke to a technician, she informed me that they switched to a new manufacturer the previous month however were unable to do anything about it. I then changed pharmacies.
john s.
I was taken off calan180m.g. and placed on ToprolXL 50 mg. My pharmasist decided that generics were cheaper and just as good. He was wrong. My heart went into three types of problems instead of just palpitations, armed with an attack of pvc/pac/palps and trying to go into tacardia. I’m in the local em and trans. to Macon Ga 36 miles away and placed back on toprol Xl 50mg and stayed 24 hours for obser. and everything back to normal.
Now I have started to receive my pres. drugs from carl Vinson VA in Dublin, Ga. The first supply was ok, generic, of course. The last supply 3 month. of generic toprol xl is not the same medication, my heart is back doing its thing. I’m drugged out–can’t do anything without feeling faint and dizzy and weak-legged. I also get a generic synthroid. I read your article in prevention on Toprol. Thanks, John
M Onstott
Our friend’s doctor recommended using rubbing alcohol in lieu of an irritating antiperspirant. My husband tried it and it works.
j.l.r.
After bypass surgery, I have taken Lopressor 50mg, tablets every day for blood pressure. Stays at 120 over 60. My pharmacy then switched to a different generic almost monthly, with the same green sticker saying”may look different but same medicine.” My b/p got high enough that my doctor wanted me to see my cardiologist. I asked my doctor if he would insist on the name brand instead of generic to satisfy my ins. co. Within a week, my blood pressure was back to normal.
Elizabeth A.
I was on prescription Toprol XL 100 mg and last year I was switched to a generic manufactured by Ethex and distributed by Caremark. My blood pressure started to skyrocket, but Caremark makes you take the generic. What rights do we have to not have problem generics that don’t work?
LC
I have had problems with the generic version of Mestinon (Pyridostigmine) 60mg tablets manufactured by Global Pharmeceuticals. This drug is used to treat an auto-immune neurological disease called Mysasthenia Gravis.
The pills swell up and when you hold them between two fingers and lightly press, the pills disintigrate.
In speaking to other people with this disease, they have experienced the same problem with the “Global” produced generic of this drug.
Nikki
Yes! Yes! Yes! I KNEW I wasn’t crazy!! I’ve been taking name brand Wellbutrin XL 300mg for 4 years, and felt the best that I ever had in my adult life! Then my pharmacy notified me that a generic version was available, and it would save me a ton of money. So I started getting Bupropion XL 300mg instead. I noticed a difference in my mood within a few weeks. I felt like I did when I was back in my “dark days”. Ha! I’m so glad I stumbled upon this website! I’m going to refill my prescription TODAY for Wellbutrin… I’m throwing the other crap away!
RJC
Apparently, the FDA has recently completed its investigation of Teva Budeprion XL 300 mg complaints and has determined they are for the most part unfounded. The complete FDA review is available at https://web.archive.org/web/20081006070005/http://www.fda.gov/cder/drug/infopage/bupropion/TE_review.htm
I have read this report and don’t agree with its conclusion. Although Teva worked great for me, from my experience with Anchen, I know that different generics can have different effects on different people. Although the FDA did not do an investigation of Anchen buproprion, I’m sure if they did, they would come to the same conclusion that they came to with Teva. And I would say bull to this because Anchen definitely messed me up. I am back to normal on Teva now.
Peggy S
My daughter and I both have had poor success with Soma 350mg. for sleep, to be taken at night for muscle spasms and my RLS. The generic “Carisoprodol” I have been purchasing from Walmart Pharmacy seems to be void of any medication! Once in awhile I will get a pill out of the bottle that makes me feel like ALL of the meds were put into that one pill! I feel like someone had really drugged me. It’s really a scary feeling … never knowing when I will get a pill that does nothing … or one that will completely knock me out! I have always wondered about the generic brand, but have never said anything about it because I didn’t think it would do any good. Now, after reading the comments regarding other generics, I know it’s not just me!! I’m thankful to know I and my daughter are not crazy after all. Thanks for this site!
Don Mc
Add me to the list of “casualties” of Teva’s placebo called “Budeprion”. After getting off of Effexor (another witch’s brew, search the Web for this!) and going on Wellbutrin XL with some samples from my psychiatrist, I felt great. I have been managing my ADD for 25+ years, so I know how I react to medications. Then I filled the prescription for the generic Wellbutrin. I expected Buproprion, but got the (placebo) Budeprion instead.
I have scrambled thinking at times, inability to focus (that’s my ADD working), and feelings of depression starting to kick in. These feelings are at their worst late in the day and when I first get up. Since I take the (placebo) in the morning, I usually feel alright until mid-afternoon. Then things go downhill.
Turns out I’m not nutty after all — Prevention magazine in January 2008 had an article on poor-performing generics, and they said Budeprion XL tested badly, dispensing most of its medication in the first few hours. That leaves you stranded for the rest of the day! I noticed another post saying someone felt their hunger had increased. Me, too! That’s the reason I got off of Effexor and onto Wellbutrin, because Wellbutrin has a reputation for NOT causing you to gain weight.
Joe and Teresa, how do I report this to the FDA?
ss
Klonopin. I started taking .5-.75 mg. klonopin for severe, long-term insomnia and hypersensitivity to lights, noise, crowds, etc. It was a miracle for me. Then I got switched to generic clonazepam. It doesn’t work anywhere near as well. I need double the dose, and feel groggy and fuzzy. Has anyone else had a problem with the generic? My insurance company won’t pay for the name brand, but it’s worth the extra money to me.
Ellen K
My son was prescribed Ritalin XL for his ADHD condition. And yes, we tried everything else before drug therapy thank you. The generic version absolutely did not work. Normally he would be able to feel things click into place with the name brand, but with the generic, there was little or no response. I think the push for generics is coming from the insurance companies and they aren’t taking into consideration the secondary ingredients and the delivery system when they push generics. My mother had similar issues when her thyroid meds were switched from name brand to generic.
David G.
It would be nearly impossible for the reader to comprehend the effect of Buspar (Buspirone Hydrochloride) on my life unless you have some knowledge of what my life was like before it. At around age 5 or 6, I began presenting with unusual but voluntary contractions of my neck muscles. That said, I did feel compelled to do this “neck popping” activity. It was actually not involuntary by any means.
My parents, both medical professionals, told me to “stop doing that” as the sum total of recognition of my problem. As I grew up, this behavior manifested itself in other ways as well, such as overreaction, impatience or bursts of temper related to negative stimuli. This was especially true if I was upset with myself over some misstep or perceived that I was being misunderstood. In general overreaction was the main event most of the time.
Over the years I went through one failed marriage (only partially my fault) and one very good one. When my second wife died suddenly, I failed to recover and get on with life in a reasonable period of time. After two years I sought some counseling.
Between the therapist and my personal physician, I was diagnosed with Generalized Anxiety Disorder (GAD). When I asked my physician if there was anything he could give me that wouldn’t “ruin my life” he suggested Buspar. So, at the tender age of 57, or so, I experienced a life-changing transformation. I can’t fully describe everything that went on, but the favorable reaction of strangers to me told a tale that made it clear to me that more than I ever expected had changed. I was suddenly very approachable. I didn’t spend so much time being angry.
Over time I went from Buspar to Buspirone, the generic “equivalent,” with no perceived change in the efficacy of the drug. Only recently the vendor of the medication that I order from, Medco, has changed, and the effects of the drug are notably diminished. I considered asking Medco what was up, but decided against that because their response was so predictable. The stated supplier is Ivax Pharmaceutical, a division/subsidiary of Teva Pharmaceutical.
I do know that generics are allowed by the FDA (for God knows what reason) to contain as little as 85% of a drug’s active ingredient compared to the brand-name medication. That allowance doesn’t explain the change. There is nothing in the literature that would indicate that one can develop a tolerance to Buspirone. I’m not under any uptick in stress. In fact, I find myself in a solid and pleasurable long-term relationship. Everything should be pretty good, my underlying condition notwithstanding. However, the compulsive muscle manipulation is returning and my general sense of well-being has lessened. As little as turning into the wrong street while I’m driving can now start the reaction.
I have to conclude that something about the medication has changed, either in quality or quantity. Some illustrations of the Ivax product do not agree with the appearance of the pill being supplied. I do not take MAO inhibitors, and I consume little, if any, grapefruit products. For that reason I hope that you will consider doing an analysis of a sample that I can submit upon your approval of my request.
bc
I was taking synthroid and then switched to the generic, which did not work. Went back to synthroid and all was well again.
E.B.
Budeprion: I was switched from one generic manufacturer to TEVA brand generic budeprion. The TEVA brand was ineffective. I called the manufacturer to see if I could return the drug and manufacturer stated they had no protocol for patients whose drugs are ineffective, and would not allow me to return it.
My MD prescribed the brand name, Wellbutrin, which actually works. I do not recommend the TEVA brand generic budeprion.
HJP
Both major drug stores in the area where I live have changed the brand of generic Lisinopril. I have had nothing but problems since–swollen feet and legs
and fainting. The one I am currently taking that is a problem is from Lupin Pharmaceuticals located in
India.
LD
I have been on brand Prozac for about 10 years, and it’s great. I was put on generic Prozac early on and found it did not work. To my surprise, my physician was fully aware of this and was and is well-known among the psychiatric community. Someone is getting rich making inferior drugs and people are suffering.
Scott
I’ve had no problem switching from Wellbutrin to Budeprion, and I think the symptoms reported by those in regard to this subject are psychosomatic.
Christina
I was taking name-brand Wellbutrin for about six months, and felt wonderful. Then my insurance company switched me to generic Wellbutrin. Since then, I’ve been struggling with feelings of sadness again. The generic medication doesn’t lift my depression at all. While taking the generic, I’ve had trouble focusing and concentrating at work as well as episodes of dizziness, and gained weight despite increasing my exercise from 3 days a week to 5. My pharmacy told me my insurer won’t cover the name brand Wellbutrin because “budeprion is the same” but it is NOT! They tell me I will have to pay out of pocket for the name brand: $130 a month! I can’t take the generic medication so I don’t know what else I can do except find an extra $130 every month–where, I don’t know.
Sarah W.
I have taken Wellbutrin for approximately 6 years. I took it before it was extended release and then made the switch to the XL. My depression was well managed at this dosage. I switched to the generic approximately 9 months ago, and have completely unraveled. My condition worsened and worsened and culminated in a major depressive episode. I missed several days of work and spent a month trying out new meds and finding a therapist. I wish that I had realized that the problem was with the drug and not me. I am currently taking 450mg of the Wellbutrin XL and am on my way back up (albeit a long hard road). I hope there is a law suit, but how do you compensate someone for losing nearly a year of their life?
JK
My wife and I have had the fogginess problem with generic Paxil; switched back to brand and within two days, the fogginess was gone. I also take xanax and have been taking generic. Last script I bought the brand. What a difference–I took less and felt better. Generics are good for some people, but never as good as brand.
BLD
Out of the blue, my bright and beautiful 19-year-old daughter fell into a deep depression last year, and after a bewildering round of medical intervention, she was diagnosed with bi-polar disorder.
One of the medications she has been taking to treat the symptoms is Wellbrutin. In March, because of our health insurance policy, the pharmacist switched the medication to the generic, Budeprion 300. Within 24 hours it was clear something was different: she talked faster, was quickly agitated, and wanted to buy everything she saw…. it was the dreaded manic side of the illness; a phase we had only seen once, early in the diagnosis brought on by another drug, Prozac.
As anyone who has dealt with this condition knows, the manic episode is extremely dangerous—there is no judgment, lots of risk-taking, and a sense of invincibility. Then it causes a cycle to a deeper depression.
With the help of her doctor, we got her to switch the medicine back to the brand, which seems to have therapeutic value for her.
Since then, I’ve been shocked to learn that generics do not have to be bio-identical. When it comes to medicine that can adversely affect a person’s brain functioning, that seems criminal.
Renee A.
This is another comment on the fact that generic Ambien–mine is made by Apotex–is of no value. Unaware of the ‘switch’ (per new insurance rule), the ‘imposter med’ kept me awake, made me ill with a hangover lasting well into the next day.
Thinking this might have been a fluke, I tried the med again–same results.
It’s outrageous that 1: Pharma makers are allowed to put products on the market that do not measure up and even cause illness, and 2: Insurance companies are permitted to overrule physician’s prescriptions! They are playing with people’s lives and wellbeing.
Thanks for passing these letters on to the FDA, etc.
Shelley S
I have been on Wellbutrin 300 XL for about 5 years. It has controlled my depression and anxiety wonderfully. I use a mail-order pharmacy, and they sent the generic without even getting my ok. Before the end of the first week I was crying a lot and had severe anxiety. I had to go back to the Wellbutrin, but had to pay a several-hundred-dollar penalty with my insurance. My doctor said it was well known that antidepressants and anti seizure medications in generic form are often not effective.
J Bishop
Generic ambien is worthless! I have been on the name brand for years, now am on the generic. It has no effect at all. I have decided it is a sugar pill
Don H
I had been taking Toprol XL for about two years and was pleased that a generic was becoming available untile I tooke it. The drug is Metoprolol Succinate almost immediately after I began to take it heart palpitations started my Doctor tells me it happens frequently. I went back to brand specific and my insurance carrier penalizes me for having to use it what a rip-off. Any one that tells you all generics are the same as patent medicines is an idiot, our regulator need to take action I feel confident deaths could and may have resuled.
R. M.
I too had been taking Wellbutrin 300XL and was doing just fine. Recently I have been getting depressed, emotional, irritable etc. I put it down to hormones, but now that I see that so many people are having trouble with the Budeprion, maybe that is the problem. My pharmacy changed me to the generic some time ago & I have steadily had more and more problems.
AC
I have been on Wellbutrin XL 300mg for about seven years now, and it’s the only antidepressant that I’ve been able to tolerate and that works very well for me. Last year, a generic came on the market and when I went to fill the latest prescription, I was automatically given the generic. No biggie, I thought. I’ve been on generic blood pressure medicines for many years now.
What I experienced was one of the worst weekends I have had in years. Within a week of taking the generic, I had trouble getting up out of bed, felt extreme hopelessness, the same feelings I had felt before I started the Wellbutrin. I tried to think if I had changed anything — maybe not getting enough sleep, eating differently, new stresses? Then I realized that I had sort of “switched medicines.”
I did some searching online and found that others had the same problem. I think part of the problem is that there is no coating on the generic, so it just dumps in your system, but I’m not a doctor. I only know how I felt. So now my prescription company gets a premium for my “name-brand” prescription, even though I have no choice. I hope something can be done about this because the more I read, the more I realize how outright DANGEROUS generic antidepressants are…
Jenny H
Last year my pharmacy switched me from Zoloft to generic (Greenstone). Within a couple of months my depression had increased significantly, and I had to raise my dose from 37.5 to 50 mg. I’d been on 37.5 for years. About a month ago, my pharmacy switched from Greenstone to Mylan. My brain hasn’t been working well. I’ve joked with folks that I have “brain parasites.” I can’t remember names, I’ve had a lot of confusion and last week I was in a “pre-migraine” state for 3 days before I started my period. On the day I started, I developed a full-blown migraine complete with colorful serpentine auras. This is the first migraine I’ve had in years, and it lasted a full week. Tomorrow I will request that the pharmacy change me back to Greenstone.
Is the original name brand Zoloft even available anymore?
JB
My mother was taking a generic form of Paxil 20mg and it seemed to be doing all right, but then in January, I noticed the packaging of her pills had changed. We read the box and it was a different manufacturer. Months into taking this version, she’s had all manner of side effects, including the “fogginess” another person here had mentioned, constantly sleeping, and being belligerent. We’re not sure what to do because we have no money and she really needs this medication to help control bi-polar disorder.
Barbara
I had been on statins for about 25 years. The last 3 years, I was on Lovastatin. I was having horrible acid reflux and had to have my Omeprazole increased by the doctor to 3 per day, plus one Reglan at night. I had horrible joint pains, was becoming very weak, in general my health was really going downhill at 83 years of age.
My doctor took me off of the statins, last August 2007. I started improving within 2 days, only have to take blood pressure medications, no more diuretics, no acid reflux, strength back in my body, no aching joints, need no pain killers of any kind.
M C Davis
I took Lipitor for ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF. My muscles became weak. A year ago I was diagnosed with ALS. I was heathly & active before I started taking Lipitor.
Have you had many complaints similar to mine?
C. G.
I had problems with generic Lotrel. Brand name Lotrel works very well for me, but when I got a generic form of Lotrel I thought I was going to die. I was physically worse than before I started taking any medication. My insurance would not pay for the brand name, so I had to pay out of pocket for it. I changed insurance Co. who now pay for it.
Grace
I have been on Ambien for many years,and it has worked fine. I usually only had to take 1/2 tablet and could sleep for 7 hours. When the pharmacy said it was available in generic I was delighted, but not for long. It took about 2 hours to work, and I only slept for 4 or 5 hours. Getting back on the real thing has been a nightmare of step- therapy with AmbienCR (which left me hung-over and emotional) and a much higher co-pay with the insurance company. My daughter tried generic Ambien from a different company and noted the same thing, plus she wound up sleep walking and hurt herself. Hope the FDA will look into the generics that don’t work like they are supposed to.
LS
I’ve been taking a generic Wellbutrin, Bupropion, for years, and it has worked great for me. After switching insurers though, I was switched to Budeprion. BIG MISTAKE. Even though I had a low dosage, I got the most terribly headaches of my life, would get severely depressed at night, had stomach problems, and tremors. When I had my doctor request Bupropion specifically from the pharmacy, they tried giving me Budeprion AGAIN, and the pharmacist said “they’re both just generics.” and that they were the same. HELL NO. It’s absolutely terrible that the FDA approved that drug again.
dle
My CVS pharmacy unilaterally substituted the TEVA generic sertaline for Zoloft. Shortly after, I started re-experiencing depression symptoms. I told the pharmacy and demanded the real thing. Now, all is well.
Same story with the Zovirax generic. CVS recently substituted a generic acyclovir by RANBAXY. It is useless.
I am changing pharmacies for one that will follow the Rx. Both Rx’s said no generics.
bw
I have been taking ambien 10 for 3 to 4 yrs. now. Had a new prescription called in to a new pharmcy and was relived that they gave me the generic zolpidem by teva. After taking the meds 3 days, I have had 3 hours sleep each night. With the ambien not the same problem–take the dose and I am asleep in 30 to 40 min. The generic does not give me the same effect as name brand.
Lee Shore
RE: Ambien 10 mg.
I first tried a generic by Watson, which worked as well as the brand name (Sanofi). When my pharamcy could no longer obtain Watson’s generic, I was switched to one by Mylan, which seemed neither safe nor efficacious. Bottom Line: I’ve decided to pay the difference and stay with the real thing.
D. L. McMaster
Dr. put me on Estrace and had good results. After 3 years Kaiser changed to a generic for Estace. After 3 weeks my breasts were sore and growing. I was talking to some ladies at work and the same thing happened to one of them. We both stopped taking it.
D.L.
MJA
My insurance plan switched me to budeprion some time ago. I didn’t notice much difference at first (other than the pills were HUGE and the smell gagged me), but now I have come to the realization that this medication may be the cause of my increased depression, lack of concentration, loss of interest, and unexplained anger. I have lived with depression for many years, but the drugs combined with therapy and exercise have always worked for me in the past, so these feelings are something new. I was about to give up on myself when I remembered that someone had said that their Dr. was adamant about not prescribing the generic for Wellbutrin. What she said made me curious, so today I googled budeprion and was in for a shock.
It’s ironic that the drug I am taking to help ward off depression may be the culprit for how I am feeling now. I spoke with my Dr., and she wrote my prescription to be dispensed as written for Wellbutrin. Although she had asked me about how the generic was working before now, I had not made the connection at the time that it could be the drug that was slowly changing my personality, therefore I told her everything was fine. I will know if it was the budeprion after I am back on Wellbutrin for awhile.
Speaking of angry feelings — I will be very angry if this medication is the cause of turning my life upside down.
Carolyn Samples
I have in the past taken Wellbutrin Sr 150mg. & had no problem. Ins. no longer pays for the brand name. The generic does not work as well and is still expensive. I thought it was me until I read your article. I will admit I am the first one to blame myself for depression. My head knows better but for some reason, I always blame myself. Thanks for all your information.
RJC
I’ve already posted on this site that Teva Budeprion XL 300 mg worked great for me when I switched to it from Wellbutrin XL 300 mg and that I experienced drug induced erectile dysfunction three days after switching to Anchen Buproprion Hcl XL 300 mg.
I have now been back on the Budeprion for a few months and everything has returned to normal with the exception that I’m not hypersexual like I was before switching to Anchen. My psychiatrist told me that statistically approximately 1/3 of all people who switch anti-depressants obtain negative (or positive) reactions that are not caused by the drug but rather psychologically by the person themself. I didn’t realize it was this high. But I don’t think there is any question whatsoever that for the other 2/3’s the different reactions are caused by switching medication.
gs
Does anyone have severe joint pain with nifedipine (adalat)?
CH
Add me to the list of people who’ve had bad experiences with Budeprion (Teva) as a generic for Wellbutrin XL. Last year (I believe it was in June) Wal-Mart, with no warning, filled my scrip with Budeprion. I’d been on Wellbutrin XL 300mg for about 10 months at the time (depression and anxiety), and had been doing really well.
When I got home and saw the big yellow pills, I thought that perhaps someone had made a mistake (why would the pills be so much larger?), so I called the pharmacy to inquire. They assured me that it was the same “stuff”–no worries.
So I started taking it, and really didn’t think too much of it. And although I didn’t put two and two together for several weeks, in retrospect it was obvious that that’s when things started to change. The big thing for me was irritability and “hair trigger” temper…it was like I was looking for excuses to get into verbal sparring matches and start “drama” with people–not my normal personality at all. My overall mood was also worse.
After a close friend told me that she thought something had changed–that she couldn’t figure out why I was being mean to her–I knew that she was right… and it further dawned on me that the timing of the change coincided with the timing of the switch to the generic. I told my psychiatrist about it, and instead of the “it’s all in your head” answer I expected to hear, I got something more along the lines of “it’s very possible that the drug is the problem; people don’t realize how much difference there sometimes is between brand and generic meds.” I asked her for a Wellbutrin-specific scrip, switched back, and literally within days started to feel “normal” again. There’s absolutely no question in my mind that the Budeprion was the problem.
I’ve since been put on another generic–can’t remember the brand, but it’s a smaller white pill–and it seems to be working just fine (though I was understandably wary at first). In any case, a nasty experience, and one that’s definitely opened my eyes. I’m so glad to find out that I’m not the only one who’s had a problem!
PG
When my healthcare provider switched my Rx from Wellbutrin, which I had taken to good purpose, to a generic it lost all effectiveness–seemed to leave me feeling worse. I’ve since heard, with no way to verify, that the original manufacturer of Wellbutrin sold the recipe to the producer of the generic WITHOUT the time-release mechanism. Presumably, then, the stuff shoots through my system in an hour or two and leaves me running on fumes for the rest of the 24. Since I was not doing well on the generic, I stopped taking it when my prescription ran out the last time.
JRG
I am a 51 yr old woman who has experienced depression most of her life. I have been able to accomplish many things — such as a masters degree, family life & professional career — by managing my depression with pharmaceuticals.
A year ago I was switched from Wellbutrin 300 to Budeprion XL 300mg. I was assured that there was no difference by both my pharmacist and my health care provider. Until recently I did not equate my downward spiral to this change in medication.
My depression episodes have increased, my fatigue has increased, and my roller coaster of emotions has increased. I have intermittent headaches, feelings of anxiety, insomnia — to name a few other symptoms.
My physician increased my dosage to 450 mg — with 300 mg being Budeprion and 150 mg being Wellbutrin. There was some improvement but not much. He then added Lexapro. There was some improvement but not a great deal.
I am convinced that the original 300mg of Wellbutrin was more effective than any of these other combinations of drugs. Based on what I have read recently, I am not alone. Please investigate the efficacy of Budeprion XL 300 mg because 1) insurance companies are forcing this to be a substitute for Wellbutrin and more importantly 2) others that suffer from depression need to understand why they may be experiencing such troubling symptoms after having long-term success with Wellbutrin.
It is not ethical for this information to be suppressed or ingnored by the FDA or insurance companies. I truly believe there is a difference in the pharmaceutical effects of the generic brand of Wellbutrin and Wellbutrin itself. Please help us because those of us that suffer from depression have a great deal at risk if their medication is ineffective. Thank you.
esther godek
I was fine with Nexium. Insurance co put me on 3 different generics–each worse than the previous. One day I took 4 generics-no relief-took some baking soda and found relief at last. Now I’m into such a state of GERD that I’m going in for an endoscopy.
SS
I have been taking Wellbutrin for 10+ years now and noticed a change with the second generic transition to bupropion. I was fine on the first generic of it (it was light pink), then they changed it to another generic which was light yellow. I really didn’t think much about it. …so it’s a different color, who cares, I thought?
Wrong, I started feeling more depressed and suicidal and could not explain why it was happening. I mentioned it to the psychiatrist and he said some generics can have a different effect. However, it was impossible to find the first generic pill again. I’ve tried dozens of antidepressants and always ended up coming back to wellbutrin because it worked better than the others. However, with the third generic changeover this past January, 2008, I went back to the pharmacist and said “are you SURE this is Wellbutrin? It’s half the size I’ve been taking for 10 years and now it’s tiny red pills instead of large pink or yellow pills.”
They reassured me that it was the same pill and even though half the size, it was identical to the brand name with all it’s ingredients. I went downhill quickly and was hospitalized with suicidal thoughts and depression. I never once put the two together because I was certain the pharmacist was correct in what he told me. Now that I see other people are expressing the same thing with this drug, I am relieved. I feel less crazy about the symptoms and feelings that went with the changeover. I can absolutely correlate the timing of the changeover to the last generic wellbutrin and my severe depression worsening and returning full force. Why do these drug companies feel they can rearrange someone’s life so carelessly? Bupropion is going in the trash. I’m going to get the Brand Name to save my sanity.
C M
I was taking Wellbutrin XL 300mg for quite a while with good results. I swithched to Teva’s generic Budeproin XL 300mg. It was clear before long that it was simply not working very well. When I was swithched back to the brand name Wellbutrin, I got the same good result that I had before the switch.
Before this incident and after, I have used other types of generic drugs with mostly good results. The public should be informed that generics are not always exactly equivalent to brand name.
Shirley C.
I took Lopressor for many years, and last year started taking the generic Metoprolol. My blood pressure went up a lot. After several months I returned to Lopressor, after which my blood pressure returned to normal.Lopressor cost is $118.54 for 60 pills compared to $12.04 for Metoprolol.
Marge R.
I have been taking protonix for acid reflux for a couple of years with very good results. When I last had the prescription refilled, the pharmacist substituted the generic pantoprazole for it.
I was delighted because protonix is very expensive and the generic was much less. However, I have found that the generic is not nearly as effective as protonix and am suffering quite often with heartburn and have even had to add zantac to get relief. The pharmacist said that he didn’t have access to any other formulation for the generic. I had hoped that another company might have also produced a generic that I could try, but no such luck. I will ask that protonix be given when I get the next prescription.
bs
i have aproblem with Biovail brand ativan i was treated my documented condition with Wyeth brand ativan. In 2004 Biovail acquired rights to brand ativan. The day i use the first time Biovail drug i felt lack of efficacy.Next day i was able to came back to Wyeth brand Ativan ,it was working.
I tried to contact Biovail, my health is getting worse , iwas on small dose of medication supervised, reevaluated.I was a healthy woman, no my stress level is so hight i can’t function. I have bed anemias, all the time. Never happend before i started Biovail brand Ativan.
Why we have problem with generic,and what’s scary why the brand name in the hands of different company is not working. For four years i do suffer so much. It was a shock when i got my diagnosis, but i was assured that,i can live with it productive life…Not with Biovail brand Ativan.
kelly
generic Ambien does not work the same as regular Ambiem for me
P.D.
My doctor gave me a sample of Ambien CR which worked like a charm. She then gave me an Rx for a 90 day supply. I didn’t notice that the label said, “Ambien CR, (Zolpidem Tartrate).
When this substitution didn’t work, I didn’t think it was because because it wasn’t really Ambien CR, I thought there was something wrong with me! Not only did it not help me to get a restful sleep, The little bit of sleep I got was full of night-mares.
I figured that I needed to get off them right away, and did so with a lot of problems not sleeping at all. I explained this to my Doctor and she gave me a new weeks worth of sample Ambien CR. Sure enough, they were fine.
I can only conclude that the substitution was not the same as the regular Ambien CR. Afterwards, I spoke to a couple of friends who swore that the Zolpiedem Tartrate caused night-walking, and other weird happenings. The FDA should be apprised of these facts.
RC
I’ve been taking generic trazodone for insomnia for many years. Variations in potency has been a recurring problem.
Most recently, my mail-order pharmacy (Caremark) changed manufacturers of the 50 mg trazodone for my latest refill. Suddenly I began to notice that I was not sleeping soundly. After a couple of weeks of trouble I realized that the change in sleep correlated with starting on the refill from the new manufacturer (Pliva). Now I am taking 1 1/2 tablets to match the efficacy I used to get from 1 tablet.
JC
I have atrial-fib and cardioligist put me on Toprol XL (metoprolol generic),Cardizem (cartia generic)and i also tale Ramipril (generic for Altace).
Recently i have read that there are 60% risk of heart attacks on Cardizem!and Beta
blocker Toprol does not carry too much better promise but this is what i am on for atria-fib plus i have a pacemaker.I found out that magnesium stopped irregular heart beats and i also take Cal/Mag and they work wonderful!Van anyone tell me how to get off of these dangerous high blood pressure pills?Many thanks!JC
JPC
There is something wrong with the generic zoloft. I have taken this drug for many years to combat a panic disorder. When I tried the generic all the same symptoms reappeared tenfold. I am surprised that this is able to go on. I thought that these drugs HAD to be the same when produced generically. It CLEARLY is not.
Terri
I’ve taken Wellbutrin for years and have been fine. I was recently switched to the generic form – not by my doctor. The insurance company kicked back the rx and would only pay on the generic.
I took the generic and took such a downward spiral I almost lost my job. I am a CPA and this happened during tax season. So my dr. wrote a new prescription that specified ONLY Wellbutrin XL (dispense as written). The insurance company STILL kicked it back and says they MAY pay on Wellbutrin XL with a prior authorization from my dr.(which will hopefully take place on Monday)
Since when does a clerk sitting behind a computer desk at an insurance company know more about my mental health than my dr? Are there any class action lawsuits yet on the generic wellbutrin?
Fred
Had sleeping problems with zolpidem generic for Ambien. The latter worked well for years. In mid-2007, prescription plan swiched me to generic from Dr. Reddy Labs, which gave me sleeping pattern of pre-Ambien days— it basically did not work!.
Asked Doctor for renewal of Ambien DAW. Insurance said okay, but charged me 14 times my copay as penalty! After research which found that all generics are not equal, I appealed to insurance company. They denied appeal, saying that there are no exceptions to my plan’s policy that you don’t get a brand name drug for the same low copay when a generic is available. for my plan copay, I was given medicine that did not work!
So I paid the penalty, and am sleeping well again. Turns out there are 17 generic zolpidem manufacturers— I wonder which others don’t work. I wish there was some other recourse to obtain the real stuff without paying a small fortune. Any help here?
Jaybee
Generic Zoloft (Sertraline) and constipation?
I’ve been taking Sertraline for several years without trouble. Recently I received a new vial, and around the same time became extraordinarily constipated. By coincidence, another Sertraline user reported the same new-onset problem to me (I’m not sure whether her generic came from the same manufacturer.)
Is it possible that generic manufacturers be using something like calcium as a binder for the drugs? The only thing that has ever done anything remotely like this to me is calcium supplements…
Thanks!
SMC
Until reading this article, I thought I was one of the only ones to have a bad reaction to a generic drug. I am so glad to see that I am not alone!
I usually take Ambien when I need help sleeping at night. Not to long ago (due to insurance coverage) I ended up with the generic of Ambien.
I was up all night. I was drowsy and tired but could not fall asleep. And when I did happen to, I couldn’t stay asleep. In addition, I would perform a lot of activities without remembering them the next day. Like eating, cleaning, small chores, watching television shows with family members and not having any idea the next day what happened in the show.
It was terrible! After a few restless, exhausting, miserable nights I realized that it may not just be me. It may be the pills.
I called my doctor and she advised me that she would call the pharmacy and make sure I received the brand name.
I have taken the brand name Ambien since then and have not had any problems.
Also, my sister-in-law told me she tried the generic Ambien and it didn’t do anything for her. She said she didn’t have any side effects, she just didn’t go to sleep. She is now back to paying for and taking the brand name… like myself.
PZC
My daughter started taking Focalin and then was switched to a generic. She experienced no benefits from the generic and the side effects included anxiety, nervousness, bouts of crying, and a variation in the amount of time the drug worked from 10 minutes to 30 minutes intermittently. The doctor prescribed Focalin XR and we are waiting to see how well that works. I made that kid suffer for a week and keep track of her symptoms for reference for insurance purposes if necessary. Never again…
Michael
Are there any reported problems with the Verapamil generic drug made by Mylan?
TRW
I’ve been taking Effexor for 15yrs with fantastic results. Three weeks ago I started taking the generic form (venlafaxine) 75mg, manufactured by Teva. Depression returned within 2 days of starting the generic. I have since returned to Effexor, and I am back to normal.
GG
I was prescribed brand name Prozac in 1986 and took the drug without any problems until the mid-nineties when I retired and lost my health care coverage.
Fortunately, I was eligible for VA coverage, but brand name Prozac is not available through the VA, only a generic. When I began taking the generic, I found my thinking to be dysfunctional and bizzare. I had violent and suicidal thoughts, and I would see a light show when I closed my eyes at night.
I stopped the generic and began taking Prozac again, paying out of my own pocket. Eureka, the bizarre symptoms disappeared, and I am doing well again. In my case, there is definitely a difference between brand name and generic.
C. O'Neil
I was recently switched from Wellbutrin XL 300mg to the generic version and experienced the following:
1. Waves of nausea, all day long. Not queasy, but a definite sense I was going to vomit.
2. Intense anxiety and feelings of suspicion that were unjustified. A touch of paranoia.
3. Upset stomach, stomach craps.
ag
In reading yesterday’s Wall Street Journal, I also had problems with the generic brand for Wellbutrin XL 300 (Budeprion XL 300) When I informed my doctor, he didn’t think there should be any problems. I ended up switching back to Wellbutrin and there haven’t been any problems since.
LC
I have been taking the anti-hypertensive drug Toprol XL for years without any undue effects. Recently, after a refill of the drug, I felt faint and dizzy 30- 40 minutes later. I had to lie down. The next morning it recurred at the same time after dosage. When it occurred on the third morning my physician husband took my blood pressure and found it alarmingly low. We checked the medication and saw that the pharmacy had substituted a generic. I went to the pharmacy and tried to get the generic replaced with Toprol. They fussed, insisted it was identical, and hassled me until I threatened to report my physical reactions to the national headquarters of the pharmacy chain. It was only after several people waiting at the pharmacy began remarking that they had trouble with a generic as well, did the pharmacist relent. When I returned to the name brand the symptoms disappeared, and my blood pressure was controlled as usual. After discussing this with two doctors I learned that they feel that the time-release aspect of the generic drug might be the problem; apparently the entire therapeutic dosage was released into my bloodstream at once, instead of over many hours. Hence the sudden, dramatic drop in blood pressure. Both said that had I been in a hot shower I might have passed out. There needs to be better control over the inert ingredients in generics….
steve
FYI the generic ZOLOFT sertraline from greenstone is in fact from pfizer, greenstone ONLY makes pfizer drugs, its sort of a stealth phizer, they are in fact the same
Jan
I took the brand name Ambien and cut each one in half, and it worked fine for sleep problems. I tried the same thing with the generic and it totally muddled my mind for 24 hours after awakening. I could not remember how to perform even the simplest tasks – it was really scary.
Keith
Biaxin. I have chronic sinus problems. Sinus surgery two times and nasal turbinates lasered recently. Three to five or so sinus infections a year. Biaxin works good.
Script recently filled with generic, Clarithromycin 500MG made by Ranbax. After taking three or four of these I experienced extreme headache and anxiety. I take 800mg of Ibuprofin (Motrin) for back occasionally and I took three of these in one day to alleviate the headache. Didn’t work. Stopped taking Clarithromycin and headache went away the next day.
HUMM!!! Tried it again two times with the same result, headache and anxiety came upon taking and went away after stopping. Well, that answered my questions, the generic Clarithromycin was the cause. NEVER, NEVER, had this problem with the brand name Biaxin. Have taken it many, many times.
Pharmacist said that maybe I have become allergic to the main ingredient after all these years. I don’t think so. I never have trusted generic as it only has to meet an 85% equivalent to brand name. That is what they teach in medical school and the government knows and approves this, 85%. I figured all along that it was the generic and after reading, “Are Generic Drugs Safe”, I am sure of it.
Once again we are being duped by the government. They aprove these medications. I once called the FDA because my generic Ibuprofin was being made in Brazil. The company I am employed by requires me to buy generic or I pay through the nose. I can’t give them an arm and leg and purchase brand because I need them for gasoline. The FDA’s answer on its safety and how often the plant where it is made is inspected or inspected at all. “I don’t know and have no idea.” Yep, they are looking out for our safety.
Tom M
Today’s Wall Street Journal has a great, albeit, disconcerting article about Beduprion written by Melinda Beck. Generic dosages can have a range of +/- 25% and still be considered “bioequivalent”. My own experience switching from Wellbutrin XL to Beduprion proved otherwise. In addition to being more depressed, I had to deal with bone-splitting headaches, ongoing constipation, and the horrible taste of the pills. The FDA spokeswoman in the WSJ article commented that websites like this one “are doing the public a disservice.” I respectfully disagree and only wish I had know about PeoplePharmacy.com before making the switch so I didn’t have to learn the hard way not to substitute generics for Wellbutrin XL.
Ritalin
I had been getting generic Ritalin (chemical name methylin) 10 mg from my local NYC Kmart for months. I switched over to Duane Reade (the largest local pharmacy chain), and with the identical prescription, immediately developed increased concentration problems, agitation, and apparently increased difficulty in sexual arousal. Neither retailer discloses the manufacturer of the medication on its prescriptions, which isn’t good practice.
A Sadowski
I have read so much on here about generic Wellbutrin XL,300mg. I was taking the generic from Teva Pharmaceuticals for about 3 months,I felt great about life I was no longer in the depths of dispare, and all of my weight from having six kids was starting to melt away I had lost 20 pounds. Most of all it felt great to have pepole tell me “wow you look really good, you look happy.”that was the best feeling, knowing I no longer had the look of sadness or burned out… Well then it all went down hill from there. I picked up my refill and began taking it,I started getting horrible headaches ,felt dizzy and out of sorts always felt nauseated and slowly started gaining weight and all I would do is want to eat everything that is bad, all Carbs..well after doing a little digging I found out that the new Bupropion 300mg XL was from Watson Pharmaceuticals. I don’t understand why this would happen, there suppose to be the same thing. If there is anyone who can help ?
HighSierraDawgs
Zolpidem, generic Ambien. Sometimes no efficacy at all. Other times, it takes two and MUCH longer to take effect. I swear I have been give a counterfeit ‘scrip. But my formulary is out of reach $$$. Anyone else find generic Ambien useless?
ECF
I have been taking brand-name Trileptal for about two years, with very few side effects. About a month ago, I was given the generic versin, oxcarbazepine. About a 1 1/2 weeks after the switch, I began to have SEVERE headaches and fatigue (which my doctor could not find an explanation for). I have since gone back to Trileptal, and it seems as though the headaches are slowly subsiding. Has anyone else experienced this? I know that correlation does not necessarily mean causation, but the pieces seem to add up…
FS
My problem was with Wal- Mart and Remeron. After switching to the generic, Mirtazapene, I began to have excruciating night time headaches and very bizarre dreams. Then requested the name brand and got the prescription in the white bottle from the manufacturer. That helped. Then last month, I picked up the supposedly name brand Remeron and it was in the brown, round bottle that generics come in. The label said Remeron, not Mirtazapene, the generic. After taking this medicine, I begin to sink into deep depression, the headaches and dreams came back and it would take me almost 2 hours in the morning just to get out of bed, even though I was awake.
Had it not been for a good family, I would have ended it. Six days ago, I switched to Walgreens, got the prescription in the manufactures’ bottle and have progressively felt better each day. No headaches, no dreams and able to get up and live life as I should. My fear is for the people who don’t have the support that I do. It is matter of life and death.
ROY T.
I have ongoing prescriptions for Paxil, Lopressor, and Metformin. When I began taking these drugs, I only used name brands. Later, I switched to a regional pharmacy chain that is known for good products and good value, and used their generics for several years, with no problems. Then about one year ago, I switched to WalMart generics. It was a donwhill slide. The Lopressor did not work, the Paxil did not seem to work, and my glucose level went up about 25%. I have stopped using all generics, and now insist on brand names in order to get back in proper order. I am on a crusade to warn people about WalMart generics. It is true, you get what you pay for !!!
MP
1 month ago I changed from Inderal LA to propranolol because the cost of Inderal went sky high. The generic didn’t even help my blood pressure. Today I’m going back to my doctor to change my medicine to a brand name blood pressure medicine.
Susan Jones
I was given the generic Ambien as soon as it came out. I had been taking half a tablet of Ambien to get to sleep. With the generic, a full tablet left me wide awake. Switching back to name brand solved the problem!
Susan
I began taking generic Prozac in Aug 2001. By the time the good stuff was out of my system, 9/11 had occurred. I attributed my depression to this and was not alarmed. Shortly there after, I was post-menopausal. I was having bad headaches and fatigue; the depression worsened.
It was 18 months before the fact that I was on the generic came to light! Once I switched back to the brand name my life improved radically. The doctors had been treating me for allergies and blaming a lot on menopause.
C. Harrelson
I have an overactive bladder, for which I have taken Ditropan for several years. Recently I tried the generic form for a month because it was much less expensive (by about $50). The generic offered no benefit in helping my overactive bladder – I felt I could have done just as well taking nothing. My urologist told me he had had other patients tell him the same thing, but the FDA insists the generic is comparable.
LJN
I was on Lotrel 10/20 and my insurance changed and now we have no choice but the Generic and I dont feel it works as well, plus never had a problem with vertico on a ladder before they switched me.
JDM
walmart generic mercaptopurine, seems much less potent that previous generic by a different manufacturer
ldm
I have been taking lotrel for about ten years and have had great success in keeping my blood pressure at a good level. Then I recently lost my job and had to switch to my wifes insurance. They in turn switched me to the generic version of lotrel (AMLODIPINE/BENAZEPRIL).
Didn’t think there was a difference until I recently went to get a physical for a new job and realized my blood pressure was VERY HIGH. Just about lost the new job. Thankfully my physician explained to my prospective employer and got me back on Lotrel.
I wonder how many people have had strokes or other complications when they assumed the generic and brand names were equally effective!!
Lesson learned here.
Shirley
My physician prescribed Lisinopril for me. It made me cough and I couldn’t sleep. He prescribed a different dosage of Lisinopril which also made me cough. He then told me that I was one of the “15% of people who could not tolerate this generic prescription”. I am now on Diovan Hct with no problems.
PEOPLE’S PHARMACY RESPONSE:
COUGH IS A COMMON REACTION TO ACE INHIBITORS SUCH AS LISINOPRIL, BRAND AS WELL AS GENERIC.
Jean S
My mother, age 93, was doing well at controlling her asthma on DuoNeb. Now that we are forced to get the generic, her asthma is out of hand and she has to use an emergency inhaler frequently. The doctor says there is probably not as much medicine in the generic, so we have to try another pair of generics.
Paul R. W.
I have been taking Prozac for almost as long as it has been on the market (about 20 years) and have been very happy with the way it worked for me. My wife will tell you the effect on me and my personality has been profoundly positive in every way. Even when my online pharmacy switched me to a generic (Fluoxetine), I continued to have the same positive results for years.
Several months ago, I began to notice my symptoms returning. The effects are subtle, very difficult to quantify, but I became increasingly aware that the medicine seemed to be increasingly ineffective.
It took a while, but I finally put 2 and 2 together–the other fact being that my online pharmacy had switched me to a different generic manufacturer several months ago. I do not know who the former manufacturer was, but the current one is IVAX.
I am no longer using that online pharmacy, and am now still on Fluoxetine but from a different manufacturer. This new batch seems to be working as I originally experienced.
To me, it is clear that the IVAX-manufactured medication is no more effective than a placebo.
I would love to send this “bad” medication to a lab somewhere to prove my point, but haven’t a clue how to do that. I only hope my message gets to someone who cares.
Thanks.
Floyd
I was prescribed Ambien 10 mg. The generic from Teva didn’t work at all, where the Brand name had worked very well for me. On the generic I woke up with nightmares, had headaches and felt pressure in my chest. It cannot be the same chemical compound. I swear it is fake.
And to make matters worse CVS Pharmacy got the drugs mixed up and put them in the wrong bottles and even worse put wrong labels on top of the other wrong labels. WHAT a mess.
ln
Because of insurance I am required to mail order from Caremark and generics only. The are sending me generic buproprin from EON Labs.
I feel like I am not taking anything anymore. I am stress eating, carb cravings, gaining weight and breaking out again.
I cannot believe the difference from Welbutrin to generic. I want to feel good again. I don’t understand how this stuff passsed as good medicine. What a joke. Oh sure I could have my doctor require name brand but my co-pay is over 200.00
Rob L
I have been taking the Wellbutrin 150MG extended tablets for 3 weeks then recently i was prescribed the generic Budeprion SL 150mg tablets. I take them twice a day and I feel like the generic is nothing like the real Wellbutrin.
On the generic Budeprion tablets I am so irritated at the slightest of things, very angry sometimes and I simply dont feel as happy as I did in the second week of Wellbutrin and im in the fourth week of the generics now, being fooled by the fact that it takes a long time to kick in. I just plainly see that the generic form does not work!
RJC
This probably won’t get posted, but if the FDA were to pull certain generics from the market simply because they don’t work for some people, there would most likely be a greater uproar from those for whom the generic does work. If the generic was pulled, many would be forced into purchasing the higher cost name brand. For some, this will be financially unaffordable and they will be on no medication at all for no good reason.
For anyone who wants Teva Budeprion XL 300 mg pulled from the market, are you going to pay me the cost difference between generic and brand? If TEVA doesn’t work for you, simply don’t use it. Anchen Buproprion XL Hcl 300 mg doesn’t work for me. I simply don’t use it.
I agree that the FDA should be notified of adverse reactions of generics, but I don’t agree that they should be pulled from the market. Even Medco has a work-around to their first choice generic Anchen Buproprion XL Hcl 300 mg which was a disaster for me. All I had to do was have my doctor write “Teva manufacturer medically necessary” and I was able to get the Teva brand. Otherwise, I would have been forced into getting the higher cost brand.
The FDA and drug companies need to formally recognize that brand and generics do not work the same in some people. All they would need to do is put this warning in the medication literature for the generic. Once this is done, the insurance companies could not legally force someone to use the generic.
It is also naive to think that if generics are eliminated, brand will come down in cost. This will never happen.
Denise
10 weeks ago I switched from Altace to Ramipril. A week after the swtich I began to notice that I was not feeling as well as usual.
6 weeks ago I switched from Coreg to generic Carvedilol and within 10 days I was having symptoms of extreme fatigue, strong palpitaions, low blood pressure, increased heart rate, & shortness of breath. I have cardiomyopathy.
All of the symptoms are the same ones that I had before starting the Altace and Coreg 3 years ago.
Laura
Everyone who has posted a complaint about a medication needs to go to the FDA website http://www.fda.gov/medwatch and submit a formal notice of the adverse event so it can be reviewed by the FDA; they need this information in order to pull medications from use. There are so many complaints here about Bupropion and Budeprion, I hope all of those who wrote here will also write the FDA.
FROM THE PEOPLE’S PHARMACY:
We second Laura’s suggestion. We have been in close contact with the FDA regarding generic drug disappointments. It will only be when there is such a tide of comments that they can no longer be ignored will the agency respond. Thanks for the encouragement Laura!
rich segedin
Hi Joe and Terry,
I read you article on “Stinky Feet Disease”. It was funny to me because years ago I suffered or I should say my family suffered from “Stinky Feet Disease”. I couldnt believe what was happening to me, It was like a bad dream. I thought I was cursed, until I finally called my brother in law who is a foot doctor. He told me it was a fungi and soak my feet in hot tea. I thought he was joking. So I took a hand full of Lipton Tea Bags and boiled some water. It worked on the spot. So you can add “Toe Tea” to your list of remedies.
Rich Segedin
Palm Beach Florida
kb
Problems with generic Protonix! My daughter(15 years old) was prescribed Protonix for GERD. She had been taking it for 6 months (including generic from our local K-Mart)without any problems. When we were told she needed to remain on the Protonix, I mail ordered 3 months supply through Medco.
Two weeks after starting the Medco generic she was having hallucinations from the drug!
We also had problems with other Medco generics but not the local pharmacy generic for the same drug!?
WCT
My husband has been taking welbutrin XL 300mg for quite a while. He was switched to the generic replacement: Bupropion HCL CL 300mg by WATSO several months ago. He started experiencing increasing symptoms of depression as if he had discontinued his medication. His doctor wrote a script for the name brand. Within a few weeks the symptoms eased and he is back on track.
K.M.
I have severe pain in my lower back and hips from degenerative disk disease. I have 4 disks that have degerated into nearly nothing, and the cartilage in my hips is about 40% degenerated.
I’ve been on Oxycontin now for a few years, and locked into a dosage that’s worked well to mitigate the pain for the most part. I have been getting the generic ones for a while now as they are cheaper in price.
However, after my February refill I began experiencing an increase in pain. Not just occasionally, but 24/7. After a few weeks it got to the point where I was literally incapacitated and increased my dosage and contacted my pain management doctor. He was FURIOUS, and indicated that I was LUCKY that I wasn’t going to simply be DENIED MEDICATION from this point forward!!! I get it, “everyone’s a drug abuser” is what they’re taught, and what they practice.
I told him I’ve been with him for YEARS and would have never done it unless I was in excruciating pain, it culminated on a weekend, and I TOLD HIM ABOUT IT COME MONDAY.
Anyhow, now he’s writing actual refill dates on my prescriptions. Thanks Doc.
Full circle to the issue. I get my prescription filled for March, however, I go to a DIFFERENT pharmacy to do it, one near my office. I also get the real deal this time, no generics.
On the FIRST DOSE I could tell that the pain was going away!! After the first day it was VERY CLEAR to me that something was amiss with the previous generics I got, as in THEY WERE EITHER WEAK OR OUT DATED and had lost their potency.
Anyway, that’s my tale of woe. I suffered for a MONTH because of some inferior GENERIC PAIN KILLERS, my Doctor thinks I’m a druggie and doesn’t trust me anymore, all thanks to these CRAPPY GENERIC DRUGS.
Maybe if the FDA would actually INSPECT these drugs and put more than a handful of people on a task which requires 1000’s of people working together to ensure the safety of these drugs for us American Citizens.
C.D.
My little brother (27 yrs.) has been taking toprol to help keep his heart more in rhythym. he had total anamolous pulmonary venous return below the diaphragm and thankfully lived through surgeries at birth. but now, he’s been cardioverted since getting outta “wack” (rhythym) and they stuck him on coumadin and toprol (name brand type). He got switched from name brand to generic toprol and now his hearts always flippin’ out and in arrythmia over sometimes nothing, and other times it kicks out for the smallest things..like just bending over to pick up something small.
I’m furious about this!! our doctor told us that the name brand toprol will no longer be available…and he has more patients that are having problems since the switch to generic (it’s not just my brother)…I’m livid!! I don’t believe for one second that all generic drugs are equal to the name brand just b/c some company spokesman says they are…the proof is in the pudding (so to speak) and can be found by OBVIOUS changes in the patients who are having their name-brand drugs stripped from them!! You can’t FAKE arrythmias…you can’t FAKE atrial flutters/fibrillations/tachycardia, etc…..all I can say is the people who lie about this type of thing, and take med. choices away from people who really need what they were already taking (b/c it really worked better) are going to “get theirs” someday…somehow–they will RUE the day that they put innocents at risk for NO GOOD reason.
I HATE our health care system..and I HATE that my brother had to be told he can’t have the medicine that was working the best, so far, for him b/c it’s now only available in generic. Big Pharma sucks and Insurance Co’s suck, and they need to be in my brothers shoes so they really know what they are doing to people in this world. My brothers doctor explained why the name brand toprol worked better and he said that the generic brand is causing more than just my brother health problems, and he’s very angry about this as well because he has other patients who are suffering from this switch, as well.
I say, let all those in the FDA live with my brothers heart problem for a week…and deny them the med. that was working the best…and see how THEY feel about it!!!
No-more-benzo
I had been taking generic Lorazepam for about 4+ years. In the last year and a half I’ve noticed every time I refilled I experienced interdose withdrawal. Had pharmacy switch from Ranbaxy to Watson. Better results for maybe 2 refils, (90 days), but then same reaction from Watson drugs. Anyway motivated me to get off Benzo’s.
Had doc switch me to brand name Valium (costs a mint) and am slowly tapering off.
KC
I was taking Effexor and was doing very well, no longer depressed, but then was given Venlafaxine, the generic in tablet form, due to insurance company’s desires, and I became more & more depressed. I will have to switch back to Effexor (and pay the price) as this generic is having NO effect on my depression and I have been suffering yet my doctor will not advise me other than to keep taking it. He seems ignorant that a generic could easily be the problem.
FDA and Pharmaceutical Association PLEASE help us people with depression by somehow outlawing the generics. They are causing so much suffering. PLEASE.
Catherine Valdez
I live in Canada, and am a type2 Diabetic. At first I was just on Amayrl, and did quite well with it. Later they decided to put me on GLUCOPHAGE/ METFORMIN, AND LATER INSULIN. I later started showing signs of kidney damage after long use of Metformin Glucophage. The doctor sent me to a Dialysis nurse at the hospital to get help on things to avoid to avoid kidney damage. On the QT, she quietly told me in a wisper get off the Glucophage/ Metformin. Ok I said I am off them right now.
3 month later I had new blood and urine tests done. Guess what no signs of kidney damage.
When I told him I quit the medicine and just increased my insulin, he was angry. I told him no I will never take that crap again. I have remained showing no kidney damage as long as I stay off the Metformin/ gluciphage
Joseph Bell
I read your column in the paper where a woman said that she was having a problem with gas. I am a diabetic, and I had the same problem, and after weeks it went away and I had a burning
sensation every time I had a BM.
I noticed that all of the sugar-free items I was using contained ASPARTAME. I immediately took myself off of the stuff with ASPARTAME and my problems went away.
Maybe this is her answer to her problem also.
Good article…………..
J. Bell
C.H.
I had been on Wellbutrin XL 300 for several years doing well with my depression and fribromyalgia. When the generic version came out I decided to give it a try and save $10 a month. Besides being nauseated by the terrible smell and taste of the horse pills, I started having problems with increasing dizziness. I checked back with my pharmicist and was reassured that it couldn’t possibly be the gemeric medication that I has just swithched to. I tried it for another month and just felt progressively worse. I told the pharmicist I was willing to pay the extra $10 per month for the name brand. By this time my insurance company required a new prescription from my Dr. saying: no generics. This year my insurance company has started charging $125 per month for the name brand. My Dr. has appealed their decision and it has been denied. What can I do? I can’t possibly pay $125 for Wellbutrin and another $100 for my other prescriptions. The real kicker is I am paying $600 per month for insurance coverage.
samantha
I’m like the rest of people on the wellbutrin xl generic. I was on it for about a month, and I quit taking them. My life was HELL! I took my last pill for the last time 3-23-2008. Been having nightmares for the last 2 nights. I hope they will soon end. My doctor had me taking 600mg of the xl. That’s twice the adult dosage. pls taking my other meds that she knew about. She the same day gave me a prescription for bontril low-release 105mg. It’s a wonder she didn’t kill me. I was just going by doctor’s orders. The next time before I get something filled I will check for drug interactions. I am changing doctors.
Joan Weisberg
I have been taking Prevacid, Prilosec or Prilosec OTC for 10 years now & have never had a problem. I was switched to generic omeprazole about 1 year ago & have been having breakthrough heartburn ever since then. The generic never gets me through a complete 24-hour period; if I’m lucky I won’t have heartburn for 16-20 hours after taking a dose. I have to supplement the generic with Tums.
Carol
My generic perscription for metformin is now supplied by teva. As soon as I started this new batch of pills, I started having GI upset, nausea and diarrhea. Has anyone else had a problem with metformin supplied by teva?
Kristen Sellgren
My problem is with the inactive ingredients in generic zoloft. I seem to be sensitive to them. The generic zoloft tablets burn my throat going down, and cause intense heartburn. I tried to cope with antacids for months, but finally I switched back to brand-name zoloft. I have explained the problem to my doctor, pharmacist, and insurance company, and they all insist that generics are the same as brand-name; since my complaint is invalid in their eyes, my insurance won’t cover the change from generic to brand-name zoloft. This is a big bite of my monthly paycheck.
Carol
I had a problem one month when I took the generic form of Lotrel. I had a dry cough, I could do very little physically. If I vacuumed, made dinner or shopped, I was exhausted and slept most of that month away. My heart clunked, beat hard, ran fast, and I became very ashen. When I requested that I get the brand name of Lotrel the next month I started to feel better after a few days. Because there is now a generic for Lotrel, my Humana Health Ins. refuses to let me get this medicine, so now I pay the full amount for it.
mhc
The generic form of toprol xl was completely ineffective in controlling my high blood pressure. My pressure went up to 212/126, and increasing the dosage of the generic form did NOTHING to lower my blood pressure. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that this drug has no effect on blood pressure, and should be removed from the market ASAP. I nearly had a stroke, and in fact had instances of TIA’s, which I had never experienced before. I will never take a generic BP pill again! You know when pain pills don’t work, or if an infection is not clearing up. One has no idea about blood pressure until a stroke. I am still very upset about this drug, and hope that anyone taking it will check their blood pressure!!
RCarter
I have taken Toprol XL for 4 years; last prescription BCBS switched without my approval to the generic. I did take note of the different name on the bottle and rationalized that I did want to try the generic. About a week later, I started feeling different and it grew worse. I phoned my physician, who switched me back to Toporal XL, and within 24 hrs I felt much better and my blood pressure returned to normal.
FG
I was given Teva Zolipidem, which is a generic replacement for Ambien. It seems that it is a great diuretic, as I was frequently up urinating. I did not sleep, and my heart felt like I had drank 2 cups of strong coffee.
I usually take Ambien at a dose of 1/2 of a 10 mg. tablet and sleep soundly with no problems.
I work a swing shift and only take Ambien when I go from nights to days, so that I can get to sleep the first couple of nights. I guess that I will be up all night and have to work my day shift with no sleep.
C.W.
I had taken brand name Zoloft for about 6 years for panic disorder, and it worked. My insurance company (AETNA) was pushing for the generic to be used, so I tried it. For the first three months I noticed a vague feeling of depression ‘under the surface’ but was fairly sucessful at ignoring it.
Then during the beginning of the fourth month, I woke up one morning with horrendous diarrhea and vomiting, a strange feeling in my head (sort of like a painless headache) and extreme agitation. During that day, on top of these symptoms, I started feeling violently suicidal. Toward evening these symptoms subsided, but I was still experiencing anxiety over what the cause could be.
The next morning, about an hour after taking the generic zoloft again, all the symptoms recurred full force. After about 8 days I looked on the net and my search pointed to sudden SSRI withdrawal. The more I researched, the more information I found that pointed to my symptoms and withdrawal.
I called my doctor, got the brand name Zoloft the next day, and within two days, the symptoms started to disappear. I contacted the manufacturer, TEVA, of the generic and basically got brushed off. TEVA assured me the generic was the same as the brand name.
Barbara
I’ve taken Zoloft for many years – I can’t say I feel like a million bucks, but it has definitely helped me “maintain”, with the least amount of side effects.
Round 1: Switched to generic — I noticed the difference right away, wasn’t pleased, then I went back on original Zoloft for a few months. Well, the New Year came, and I figured, I wanted to cut back spending, so I told myself — I’ll go back on the generic and I’m determined it’s going to work for me.
Round 2: It’s not working. I’m on the second month of it, and I’m feeling (as others have said in these posts), that old familiar down feeling. I’m the type that knows how to “keep plugging along” — and boy do I feel like I’m plugging. I feel the old feelings of hopelessness, irritability, and “it’s too much effort”.
Round 3: Back to Dr. and CVS to get the real & expensive Zoloft. Something has to change — think about it — (the insurance companies should) — why would anyone purposely want to spend more money for their prescriptions — if they could get the SAME thing cheaper — but it’s NOT THE SAME THING!
JA
I’ve had some of the same problems with generic metoprolol succ. er tabs as others have. Shortly after I started taking the generic version of Toprol XL my blood pressure jumped way up. I’m going to request that I go back on Toprol XL too. I don’t think it is the same as the original medication either.
DN
My doctor prescribed zoloft for anxiety and low mood. I have taken it for more than seven years with great success. I was recently switched to the generic sertraline, made by Actavis/Purepac. After taking this medication for about 3 weeks all my symptoms returned. I switched to another generic, which is made by Greenstone and have had no problems since.
John Q Public
I was taking generic amoxicillin and I got an upset stomach.
PJ
Has anyone had problems with tremors with the generic budeprion XL? Mine started the day I switched from Wellbutrin to the generic. I felt as though I was standing on a vibrating floor. It got worse over the course of a week, and when I saw my doctor, she advised me to stop taking them. A week later, I am still getting the vibrating feeling, and in addition, I started getting what could only be described as an electric shock feeling coursing through my torso. Doc advised that it could be up to 2 weeks before these side effects go away. I’m only glad after reading here that I haven’t sunk into worse depression or seizures or psychosis. This stuff is awful and needs to be taken off the market immediately!!!
Mark P.
I have had a problem with the generic version of Wellbutrin. The 300 XL version is what I switched to because my psychiatrist said that it worked well. Soon after my wife started to complain that I was irritable just like when I wasn’t on any anti-depressant. It took about 2 or 3 weeks for us to notice that but then I called my Dr. and he switched me back to the name brand. Soon I was feeling much better. I have no doubt this was related to the generic brand.
KA
OMG!! I finally feel ‘not-crazy’ again…. Thank goodness I came across this website. I was prescribed Welbutrin 300–due to losing my insurance coverage following my divorce, I took the generic option when asked at the pharmacy. I have taken generic welbutrin (not xr/sr) in the past with no ill effects, but I noticed when I recieved my meds that these pills looked and were packaged completely differently than any other generic I had before.
I had actually been given something I have never tried–Budeprion XL 300, and let me tell you I have not felt this bad in years!! I am SO angry and irritable, and feel like I am in a constant state of raging PMS with horrible depression, lethargy, and mood swings. I did not even consider the medication when the problems arose–I blamed myself and current life circumstances on my ‘mood changes.’ However, my boyfriend pointed out (after yet another mood induced spat) that I had been behaving ‘different’ since changing meds. By this time I was already convinced he was my enemy (like everyone else…) so I didnt want to hear it. During a moment of clarity I recalled that I was fine prior to switching from Zoloft–which I did because of the sexual side effects.
I am outraged that this stuff is even approved for use–it is poison! I can’t imagine what this does to those in already depressed states or who do not have loved ones or support systems in place. I was convinced I was losing my mind–I had outbursts of crying and rage within minutes of each other. I also have increased sweating as well as terrible nausea, vomiting, and constipation–which has me bloated and feeling like I gained weight. With these symptoms I was actually beginning to convince myself that I was pregnant–even though my boyfriend had a vasectomy last year. WARNING–TEVA generics DO NOT WORK! I am calling my Dr first thing and changing up.
C.C.
Lopressor – I had been on one brand of generic for this and did just fine, but the pharmacy switched to a different generic manufacturer and my blood pressure spiked within a couple days of the switch. Finally had to go to brand name Lopressor to solve the problem.
Someone could have a stroke when this stuff doesn’t work right!
TZ
I have been on Toprol XL for years. It well controlled my blood pressure and chest discomfort. Now that the generic came out, by Sandoz, my health insurance had the pharmacy issue that one. I have anxiety, palpitations, and my head feels like it’s going to blow up. Now I will need to ask my doctor to write a new prescription which states “no substitutions.” This will cost me twice as much. Generics are not the same as brand names, trust me. I don’t understand why these companies are allowed to poorly copy a medication that only causes the consumer more health problems.
DJR
I was switched from Toprol XL 25 to the generic Metoprolol ER 25. I became very jittery and my heart beat was faster and I had more PAV’s. I also had a sensitivity to light and had pains in both eyes and the aura with the flashing lights that comes before a migraine. I went to my Dr and got a prescription for the brand name. With a medication for something as important as blood pressure, this should not happen. This generic has to be investigated.
Sincerely DJR
Susan Miller
I have not had an adverse reaction but wanted to note an article in the “Inside Tract magazine ” published by the Canadian Society for Intestinal research (Jan, 2008 issue): warns that generic mesalamine tablet coating has been proven in studies to dissolve at a ph of 5.5 instead of the 7 ph that real Asacol dissolves at. Therefore it does not deliver the drug to the diseased area of the colon in resulting in relapse. I take 6 Asacol per day for ulcerative colitis and am thankful for the warning.
PJ
There seem to be too many people experiencing problems with the generic Toprol XL.
I have taken Toprol XL for over 15 years. After trying several drugs for various reasons (irregular heart rhythms, palpitations, and high blood pressure) Toprol XL was the only one that worked for me. I had it refilled a couple of months ago and when I got home I realized it was a generic version. I was happy because I thought I was going to save a lot of money.
After a couple of days my blood pressure shot up, heart was racing and pounding out of my chest, had constant palpitations, and horrible chest pain. I went to see my cardiologist. He told me he didn’t care what anyone said, some generics do not work like the name brand and told me he did not want me taking any more generic Toprol. He had several other patients who were also experiencing problems with the generic Toprol.
I have never had a problem with generic drugs before; I usually request generics to save money. With my insurance I am having to pay triple for the name brand Toprol XL. The FDA needs to pull the generic version of this drug off of the market and investigate the problems so many people seem to be having while taking it, before someone gets hurt — or worse. The company producing the generic needs to be forced to reformulate it so that it is the equivilant of Toprol XL.
Jacquelyn Hober
Generic meds make me break out in itchy hives. I’m allergic to soy and aspirin. Could generic meds contain soy or aspirin?
CA
My pharmacist said it was a new rule that some box had to be checked on the prescription that generics cannot be used or something to that effect. Thank God my doctor listens to me, because the Wellbutrin FAKE stuff as I call it does not work — I was instantly depressed, panic attacks, felt like crap — I brought the bottle back, and they gave me the brand name and I was back to my happy self. Same thing with the FAKE Xanax — does not work — they used to say “It is $5.oo more.” Well worth it to me! I can’t believe all these comments and the drugs are still out there — I am praying my prescription plan never changes — good luck everyone!
Blossom
M.J. B.: Thank you for your message. I just started back on the real Zoloft this week. When did you feel that it was really working for you? Did it take five weeks to kick in? Or did you experience some relief earlier than that? Like you, I had been on the generic for a year. But I blamed my anxiety, fuzzy thinking, etc., on a number of family problems. I should have figured it out long before this. Thanks again for telling your story.
RJC
I followed up on Laurie Goldberg’s suggestion to try to get Teva Budeprion XL 300 mg from MEDCO by having my doctor write “Teva brand medically necessary” on the prescription. Although I’m not due for a refill now, I called MEDCO up in advance to see if they could get Teva with the appropriate wording on the prescription. I told them that I had seen someone on the internet do this and asked if they could do it for me. They said they could and gave me no run-around, so I’m assuming that it is now standard policy for them.
This is definitely a step in the right direction, as it appears that at least MEDCO seems to recognize that there can be significantly different side effects between different generic brands. Maybe they are doing this to avoid potential liability, keep business in their court, or a combination of the two. But regardless of the reason, they seem to have come through.
M.J.B.
I too experienced the horror of generic zoloft. I am a pharmacy tech and work with drugs all day and was extremely skeptical about the poor efficacy of generics. You could not convince me that generics were at all inferior to the brands. About a year ago I was switched to the generic for Zoloft, sertraline, and got worse and worse. At the same time I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism and was starting menopause. So I just chalked up the horrible fatigue, sadness, anxiety, insomnia to those other reasons.
Well those two problems were corrected, and the horrid fatigue, anxiety, sadness, insomnia, fuzzy thinking were not. After reaching the point of desperation and hating myself, I read many, many posts/blogs about zoloft vs generic — it clicked — the generics were not cutting it. I had even talked with Dr about increasing my dose… well she wrote me “Brand Name Only” prescription and BINGO!!! I have been back on the brand for about 5 weeks and I am back to my old self, everyone has commented about the huge change in me. So please, if you are feeling these same things PLEASE demand your Dr write for Brand Only. It may save your life.
RJC
Laurie Goldberg,
Thanks for the information on MEDCO, Teva and Anchen. I am one of those who swear on Teva Budeprion XL 300 mg and would under no circumstances ever go back to Anchen Buproprion XL Hcl 300 mg or brand Wellbutrin XL 300 mg. I would pay out-of-pocket if necessary to get the Teva. I am currently getting Teva at the local pharmacy at $30 for a 3-month supply. If MEDCO carried Teva, it would cost me $25 for a 3-month supply, at a savings of only $5. My greatest concern is that my local pharmacy may someday discontinue Teva. But it looks like from your post that at least MEDCO will get it if requested. I am also going to have my doctor write “Medically Necessary” on the Teva next time I get my prescription updated. She doesn’t have to do this now because the local pharmacy currently carries Teva. My local pharmacy has agreed to inform me in advance if they ever discontinue Teva.
pph
I have been reading these testimonials with much interest since for years I have complained about generic drugs. I have had suspicions since I broke my kneecap several years ago. I was prescribed percocet. I could feel warmth/relief almost immediately. But a couple of years later I broke my ankle in three places and had to have pins/screws put in. This time percocet was precribed but I was given oxycodone which did not touch the pain. I experienced extreme pain until I demanded brand name percocet and ended up paying full price but what a relief it was.
Another problem I’ve had is with Paxil. I have been on this drug since 1987. I referred to it as a miracle drug as it helped depression and an anti-social disorder. My mail order pharmacy has sent me generics a couple of times. At first I decided I would try it for 3 months even though I was feeling my old symptoms. My doctor then wrote on my prescription to dispense as prescribed. Caremark balked some but sent brand name paxil. Now my concern is if the brand names have been altered or are some being replaced with placebos. I still suffer from a deep depression and lack of motivation.
Our country should never depend on China or India or any other country to supply our drugs. We hear so much about terrorism coming to us, so what is our homeland security thinking? What is the FDA doing to put a stop to this, or is this not in their job description?
We have capable pharmaceuticals and our drug companies have got to be suffering when every drug they manufacture gets copied and sells for a little less. Maybe if these generics were not allowed our pharmaceuticals could get back to research and development. Maybe if they were not afraid of losing their patents to these off the wall pill makers our drug prices could be lowered.
iris
Thank you all for sharing your experiences. I have lived through the generic Zoloft nightmare for months. Earlier this week I had my doctor write a prescription for the real stuff. How long does it usually take to see a difference? I know everyone is different, but a benchmark would be helpful.
mlb
Have been on carisprodol 350 mp name brnd soma for chronic pain/muscle spaz and spinal defomity. In last year since the weis pharm switched its generic from this one to another type of carisoprodol 350 ( cor103), I have had to use other pain meds more often and do not get the much needed unspazed muscles. This has greatly limited me more as am disabled and suffer with chronic ongoing pain–this switch was terrible as the cor 103 doesnt work.
Judith Guder
I have been taking Demadex (loop diuretic) and my drug plan changed it to the generic Torsemide. They worked almost as well as the brand. Then they switched manufacturers and the large white tablet was changed to a tiny oval white tablet manufactured by Apotex. This new medication does not work at all. I have complained to Medco and they responded that they cannot guarantee a specific brand. Since my health depends on a diuretic, I am at a loss.
Blossom
Thank Godde for this post. I thought I was losing it. I’ve been on Zoloft (at various strengths) for almost 10 years. It saved my life after my adventures with uterine cancer. After a recent bout with pneumonia, I crashed. In restrospect, I’d been spiraling down for months. When I mentioned this to the doc (with the concern that my Zoloft had pooped out), she told me about the problems with generics and wrote a new script. After just two days on the REAL Vitamin Z, I’m already feeling better (I think). But I’m so squirrley these days that I’m afraid to believe it’s really working that quickly. Is this possible? Has anyone experienced this? By the way. . . I’d been on the generic for more than six months. So my theory is that my body was craving the good stuff. Blessings to everyone who has to endure all this.
jrh alabama
I am a pharmacist; have been nearly 30 years… We are seeing most generics come in today manufactured out of the country. I am appaled by this. I cannot believe the DEA would have as stringent quality control in these countries as in the USA…
Here are a few: new Altace-Ramipril by Cobalt–Malta; Gen. glucophage–Metformin by Zygeneric–India. Metformin ER by sun labs–India. Generic neurontin by Glenmark–India. Naproxen by Glenmark–India. Prograf for kidney transplant–Japan. Wyeth-Lederle generic of Protonix-pantoprazole–Puerto Rico/ Germany. Omeprazole-generic Prilosec by Apotex–canada. Here is a biggy: generic Zocor by DR. Reddy–simvastatin–India. Wockradt generics as generic Pepcid-Famotadine–India. Generic Paxil by Zygenerics–paroxetine–India. And I am sure there are many more I missed…
If a consumer knows his or her generics come from out of the country, do you really think they would want them? But they are forced to take them because of insurance… For your information… A saddened pharmacist…
A.L.
I took the tricyclic antidepressant Pamelor for a couple years, then switched to the generic (nortriptyline) when Pamelor got too expensive. If the generic was manufactured by Teva, all my symptoms returned after a week or so, but if it was by Mylan, I was fine. My pharmacist had to special order it for me when his drugstore chain made Teva the preferred brand. Then Mylan stopped making it, so I switched to another tricyclic (a generic, actually) and have been doing well on it.
michelle
I take budeprion sr 150, and I have lost like 50 lbs, but feel like I’m on speed all the time. My eyebrows always are tense and upward, and my eyes look and feel like I’m on acid. I’m afraid this crap will actually kill me. Is anyone feeling this way too? Not to mention I feel like shit half the time.
Helen L. Throckmorton
I cannot take the generic for Ritalin (methylphenodate). My reaction to the generic can almost literally be seen. I can FEEL when the drug “kicks in” and when it “leaves the system” or when its timed effectiveness is fininshed. People around me could tell also, and realized it was time to stop studying. Today one of those study partners is a pharmacist.
LAE
I have never had a problem with generic meds before, so when my doctor switched me to the generic wellbutrin 300mg when it first came out, I was happy to save $35/month. However, shortly thereafter, I began to feel urges to smoke again (I had quit quite easily for a year), experienced weight gain, and lethargy. When I mentioned this to my doctor, she said several other of her patients (including herself!) had similar experiences after switching to the generic. I had not even made the mental connection! I am back on the brand-name, feeling better, and will GLADLY pay the difference. I am concerned for others and hope this generic will be pulled ASAP.
DF
I recently filled two prescriptions, gabapentin and tramadol, which had been the same presription for months. It took me forever to find a combo of pills which allowed me to manage my pain comfortably, so I could go about my daily life. Now I get two ‘different’ versions of my pills and ALL my comfort is GONE; I’m experiencing problems I’d not had since I’d found my perfect combo of meds. Well, the ‘different’ versions of these pills were from new manufacturers/suppliers. I looked them up online, not an easy task. Both companies seem to have a focus on animal meds, and I am NOT IMPRESSED. Why are all sorts of companies being allowed to provide meds to people who rely on these meds for their quality of life and such????
JA
I have used Estrace, the brand name estradiol for estrogen replacement, for a number of years. When I switched insurance companies, the pharmacy gave me a generic estradiol without asking me. After 5 weeks I determined the bladder irritation and sexual dysfunction was due to the generic estradiol.
LS
I was recently switched from one generic of Wellbutrin SR to another — from Bupropion to Budeprion. IT IS AWFUL. The Budeprion is giving me digestive problems, as well as terrible headaches throughout the day every day, worse than I’ve ever had. Just a couple weeks ago, I was working at the computer when my right arm jumped about 5 inches to the left, and a few minutes later the left side of my face started seizing.
BUDEPRION IS HORRIBLE. There is even an investigation into it going on by the FDA.
RJC
I have already posted the negative reaction I had (loss of libido and erectile dysfunction) 4 days after switching from Teva Budeprion XL 300 mg to Anchen Buproprion XL Hcl 300 mg. I was on Anchen for 3 weeks before switching back to Teva. I have been back on Teva for 3 weeks now and have shown no significant improvement. It is impossible to tell whether it will still take time for the Teva to kick back in, whether the Teva has kicked back in and I’m now experiencing performance anxiety, or whether it’s a combination of both. In any case, if I don’t show any improvement by the end of the week, I will make an appointment with my urologist. I realize everyone is different, but it may prove to be helpful if anyone can provide their experience with the following:
For anyone who was stable on Teva Budeprion XL 300 mg and who subsequently experienced a negative reaction when switching to Anchen Buproprion XL Hcl 300 mg, I would appreciate it if you could answer the following:
(1) How long were you on Anchen before you switched back to Teva?
(2) How long back on Teva did it take for you start to show improvement?
Any information will be appreciated. Thanks.
C. K. Baxter
Pantoprazole filled as a generic for Protonix: it did not seem to have any effect on acid secretion at all. On the next refill, I had to pay extra to receive the Protonix, which worked as expected.
RCB
To everyone who responded to my post about different reactions to the TEVA and ANCHEN generics of Wellbutrin XL 300 mg. When I called my mail order pharmacy, MEDCO, they said that they only supplied the ANCHEN manufactured generic, BUT, if my doctor wrote a prescription that said “TEVA manufacturer medically necessary”, then they would try to get it. My doctor wrote the prescription and after some run around, MEDCO did actually supply the TEVA generic. So the bottom line is, if you need a specific manufacturer, don’t give up. Get your doctor to write the prescription with “medically necessary” on it. After MEDCO got the prescription they said, “we can’t get it”, I said fine, my local CVS stocks it, let me get it there. They got a little huffy, but sure enough, MEDCO got it and sent it to me.
Laurie Goldberg
I have been taking Prozac, 20 mgs., daily for about six to seven years. About a year ago, my insurance company changed me to Fluoxetine HCL, a generic. I, as most others, didn’t think much of it until a month or two later when I was crying during TV commericals, etc., and just waiting for my life to end.
I realized possibly the change in meds could be the problem and changed back. I almost immediately had relief.
Well, once again, my ins. co. has taken it upon themselves to call my dr’s office unbeknownst to me and request a generic substitution for my latest refill. This was okay’ed by one of the staff members who never spoke with the doctor with whom I’ve had multiple conversations about this.
So, not only has the ins. co. made buying the brand almost cost prohibitive, but now they are changing my meds without my authorization or knowledge.
I sincerely hope that I will not have a problem on Monday when I rectify this situation. The FDA needs to realize that generics are NOT brands. I take many, many meds for fibromyalgia and migraines and am sensitive to their effects, and I know that the generics do not work as well as brands, and in an effort to stay feeling “average,” I am paying through the roof even though I have my doctor’s agreement that I should be taking the brands of meds.
Isn’t it bad enough that we’re in pain and not well daily, but we have to deal with the red-tape and high costs of the pharmaceutical and ins. companies???
P.B/
I had been taking coreg 25 mg twice a day for 4 years. In September, my pharmacy switched me to the generic form. I started to experience shortness of breath. After switching back to the brand name I am better. My insurance, IH , will not cover this drug because a generic is available… all generic drugs are not the same as the brand name.
Carolynn
I have been on Zoloft for 14 years for depression, anxiety and phobias. Since switching to generic sertraline (teva), I have felt my old symptoms returning, and now I feel like I’m in withdrawal. Flu symptoms and severe anxiety. I have noticed that a majority of the complaints are of generics made by Teva. I have taken the generic by greenstone and did fine with it. I believe greenstone is a Pfizer company which also makes the Zoloft. I feel absolutely horrible, and on top of that I see Pfizer has upped the Zoloft price quite a bit since the price of generics has lowered. I feel not all generics are equal to their name brand! I also feel Pfizer is a greedy company.
R.D.
Today I was given generic Wellbutrin XL. I have been taking generic wellbutrin sr for the last month, and now I have answers to why I’m so irritable and grouchy. I get so mad, I come close to tears. Little things set me off, I’m starving all the time, and my jeans have gotten tighter. I’ve gained weight, up 6 pounds since the end of January. My skin is so itchy, I’ve scratched my breasts raw. At night I lay in bed scratching like a flea-infested dog. I took one pill today, but after coming across this website, I won’t take anymore. Hopefully I can get the brand name filled. Could this explain why I am so tired during the day–falling asleep at the wheel? I have reflux and take Prevacid for it, but this month it has gotten worse. Does generic wellbutrin have anything to do with it?
jv
I am taking generic Klonopin and toxicology screens are NEGATIVE for any trace of benzodiazapines.
I am writing to report a problem with generic Klonopin. Very long story short (I I’ll try to be concise) I have been on Klonopin for 15+ years, many of these on generic brands with no problem.
Two months ago, CVS bought Osco pharmacy where I have my scripts filled. I was now on Teva’s clonazapam… not the generic I had been on for the last 3 years. And I cannot find out which pharm company that was.
Almost immediately I noticed a decline in my control of my PTSD and panic attacks. The nighmares began as did the panic attacks, as well as a slight feeling reminiscent of if I had forgotten to take my meds or was out of town and had to wait a few days to get my refill.
I just happened to have a toxicology screen (urine) done for a job, and it was negative for benzodiazapines… which I was ?? about since I had clearly stated that I was on them. I was asked if I took them daily or just as needed.
I am RX’d 2mg tabs 3 times a day. Well it’s 3 now, at the time it was 2 times a day.
I called my Dr and he immediately wrote for medically nec brand name only. Insurance denied the claim. My Dr suggested I take my next refill to a different pharmacy that carried a different generic brand. So I did… I went to Walgreens and was dispensed Caraco Pharmaceutical’s generic version of Klonopin.
I continued to deteriorate… thinking this was a progression and sudden worsening of my illness (forgetting aout the negative tox screen… surely 2 generics could not be worthless… or so I thought) I was placed on 2 additional anti-depressants (to help with anxiety and PTSD) a Clonodine patch (blood pressure med) used to help decrease my anxiety level and an anti-psychotic to help with the PTSD flashbacks. All of these symptoms had been controlled previously for years with one anti-depressant and 2 mgs of Klonopin 2 times a day. My Klonopin was also increased to 3 times a day.
I, on my own, went and had 3 toxicology screens done at my own expense and at different labs and all 3 reported the same test results for benzodiazapines… NEGATIVE.
I contacted Teva and Caraco, am still waiting to hear from them. Went to the pharmacist who said it was impossible and I must not be taking my meds, or worse, hinted I was diverting them.
I see the Dr tomorrow and will get an RX for brand name and take it to a pharmacy I have never been to before and self pay to get the brand name from Rosche Pharm.
I was told at Walgreens that I had to use my insurance, that I was not allowed to pay for brand name if I had insurace that would cover the med… even a generic version that clearly does not work. Probably because I am on disability and on medical assistance.
I suspect that these pills are counterfeit as there was NO trace of benzodiazapines anywhere in either my urine or blood.
If anyone knows where I can send these pills for analysis to see if there is any of the main active ingredient in them I would certainly appreciate it. They have no minty taste (as every legit pill of klonopin I have ever taken does) and they start to dissolve almost as soon as they hit my tongue (no these are not the rapid-dissolve type). Also they are very chalky. Not at all consistent with anything I have received over the last 15 years.
I wish I could find out which generic I was on that was working. I suspect it would not matter though as every pharmacy here in this small town carries Teva and will not order a different brand of generic… I’ve already asked. I live in the state of WI.
I also find it hard to believe that it is legal for a pharmacy to force me to use my insurance to cover a generic medication if I want to pay for brand and the Dr writes brand necessary. Even if he did not… it’s my money and my health!
If anyone has any suggestions as to who I can report this to, where I can send the pills for analysis, and more importantly if I can force the insurance to cover brand since I have laboratory findings that prove generics worthless.
Thanks to all that took the time to read this.
Jen
L Vance
I have been taking Tenormin since 1980. Recently my insurance has changed to the generic. The Tenormin was prescribed for me to lower my heart rate. I also take Benicar for blood pressure.
I experienced the same problem:
My question is, did you ever have any feed back on the generic for Tenormin? I had a problem with my BP going extremely high about a year and a half ago, at the time the druggist gave me the generic. I went back to Tenormin and it was okay.
RJC
I have bipolar disorder and strangely enough that once I was stabilized on Wellbutrin XL 300 mg and then switched to Teva Budeprion XL 300 mg and then switched to Anchen Buproprion Hcl XL 300 mg, with all three different drugs I never experienced any perceptible change in mood (i.e., no depression, no anxiety, no panic attacks, etc.). The only psychological change I experienced when switching from Wellbutrin to Teva was increased libido. The only psychological change I experienced when switching from Teva to Anchen was loss of libido and erectile dysfunction. Most on this site seem to have experienced changes in mood as a negative side effect to medication changes. But it never happened to me.
RJC
RCB,
I have posted on another section of this site the negative experience I had when switching from Teva Budeprion XL 300 mg to Anchen Buproprion Hcl XL 300 mg. I am also back on Teva trying to get myself stabilized again. I had no problem whatsoever when I switched from brand Wellbutrin XL 300 mg to Teva Budeprion XL 300 mg. In fact, I prefer Teva over brand Wellbutrin because I have better libido on Teva. But it was a disastor when I switched from Teva to Anchen. I had no control over switching medication because my insurance company Medco did it. Medco only carries the Anchen. I have to get Teva from a local pharmacy. I pay more for the Teva, but I don’t have any choice.
deb
Four or five nights ago I switched to a generic brand of Deseryl (Trazodone) provided by a discount “super store”. Deseryl was was prescribed to me 13 years ago for sleep disorder/chronic pain. Has worked great. I just switched to the generic and cannot sleep. I am going crazy! Anybody else or my imagination? thanks
Julie D
I started taking Teva’s generic of Lotrel and find that sometimes it won’t work at all or it quits working after 8 hours. I take the extended release that should last for 24 hours. I called a pharmacist and she said that she has gotten several similar complaints. It just went on the market. Any similar problems? If you take it, make sure you monitor your blood pressure, as I have taken it for 3 months and just started monitoring it after reading about other problems with other generic drugs.
llschell
I thought my reactions to Budeprion xl 300 were all in my head. I dismissed the agitation and sleeplessness to hormones, at my age (35). I have NEVER been on Wellbutrin, but will be calling my doctor to change my prescription. The main reason I came to this site is because I have been experiencing severe hyperhidrosis (sweating) especially on my hands and feet. Anyone else have this strange reaction?
Monroe LA
I was on Wellbutrin XL and doing great, then CVS switched me to generic. I knew something was wrong (felt anxious, worthless, and had unbelievable hunger) and tried to stop several times. I thought I must have become immune to it or had it built up to toxic levels in my system. I saw the article in Prevention magazine and went to the pharmacy to see if they would switch it, but they said I would have to wait until my next refill. CVS had made the switch themselves, not the insurance company nor the doctor. As for any savings, I pay an even $50 with my insurance for the brand name and paid CVS $49.63 for the generic with my insurance! Needless to say, I switched to another pharmacy and tell others about my experience with CVS.
Wanda Rose
I’ve had two bad experiences with generic drugs. 1) My husband & I both have been taking Toprol XL for many years. When the generic was available, our insurance company switched us to generic, metoprolol succinate er. My husband and I both got headaches and odd feelings in our heads. We requested non-generic and went back to non-generic.
2)I have been taking Lotrel 5/20 for years with no problems. In Nov 2007, when generic was available, my insurance company switched me to generic, amlodipine-benaz 5/20. I had been taking it from Nov 2007 through Feb 12, 2008. My blood pressure continued to rise between 15-26 points. I requested generic be switched back to non-generic and insurance will not pay for the medicine. I’m paying full price for my drugs.
I have only been back on the non-generic, Lotrel for a few days and my blood pressure appears to be slowly leveling off. I have no problem taking a generic drug, but it needs to work. It’s not fair to pay for health insurance with a prescription benefit, then have to pay full price for medicine. This is a rip off, and could be hazardous to my health.
Alan
The recent generic form of Ambien is NOT effective. I have been taking 10 mg of Ambien for 7 years, as directed, with no side effects. Ambien has been very effective. The generic form does NOT work beyond any reasonable doubt. The insurance company will not pay for the original, only the generic form. What are my options, and for others who report the same ?
LB
I have acid reflux. I had been taking Prilosec (name brand) for 3 years; I had already tried the generics–made me dizzy, gave me a rash, stomach pain. They came out with Prilosec OTC and my insurance informed me they would no longer pay for name brand.
After trying Prilosec OTC, I spent a week in bed sick. Now I’m taking Prilosec (name brand) at my expense with no problems at all, but I was assured there were no differences in medicine, it was only me. To sum it up, the only reason for generics is so the insurance companies won’t have to PAY ANYTHING. AND OUR CONGRESSMEN DON’T CARE!
M T Pomeroy
I started a new generic drug, Hydrocortisone tab 20 mgs, by Glades, number 2827. The tablets powder even without the container being opened. It is a much larger tablet than my previous generic of the same strength. I have a need to cut my pills due to dosage and have never had a problem in twenty years previously getting clean, even cuts. The Hydrocortisone, by Glades #2827, powders and chips when the pill is cut in half and then quartered. Uneven dosage is obvious. The powdering is so bad that the number on the pill is difficult to read.
Also, since the Hydrocortisone by Glades #2827 powders before it is even touched, even the whole uncut pill breaks down on the tongue no matter how quickly I attempt to swallow the pill with water. It is obvious that it breaks down, due to the taste I have for long after I take the pill, which I have never experienced before. Since steroids are not easy on the stomach, what is this early breakdown doing to my tongue, throat and esophagus. My previous Hydrocortisone was made by West Ward #254, with which I had no problem.
HS
I have been on Prozac for a long time. I too switched to the generic and found out the hard way they are not the same. I switched back to name-brand and pay more, but it’s worth it.
Teresa
I’ve been taking Zoloft for about 10 years – 50 mgs per day. I was switched to generic a few months ago and have noticed a very big change, and I have regressed terribly. It’s as if I am taking nothing at all. From reading your website, I can see there is a problem with this generic. Thank you.
WAS
I’ve been on the brand name Ambien for many years, which takes about 30 minutes to kick in and lasts through most of the night. When the generic came out I was switched to the generic made by Teva, which does take about 2-2 1/2 hrs to kick in. I’ve been on the generic for about 2 years made by Teva. I recently changed jobs In October ’07 & was forced to get my generic Ambien through the mail-order program which my insurance company uses which is Apotex Corp. I’ve been on & off of it due to 24/7 headaches which I cannot stand anymore. I also have been having numbness in my upper back since I’ve been on this generic Ambien by Apotex.
I stopped taking it & switched to the few I had left by Teva, & the headaches went away within 3 days, along with the numbness in the back. I will be switching and using the rest of my generic Ambien made by Teva for the next week until I can see my doctor. This will be my 4th time switching off this other generic Ambien, which is by Apotex Corp.
I have spoken to my mail-order company, & they told me the doctor needs to state on the prescription to get the generic Ambien from Teva. After it is stated they will TRY to get it from the same company that I’ve been getting it from. I have spoken to 2 pharmacists & they said it will be the INACTIVE INGREDIENT causing the problem and not the active ingredient. The pharmaceutical companies can change the INACTIVE INGREDIENTS which can be a problem for some people. I do believe that the INACTIVE INGREDIENTS are not the same between the 2 manufacturers even though they are both generics, & that is the root of my problem.
I will be pursuing this issue with both pharmaceutical companies along with my insurance company, and also making every effort to make this problem known to the general public. The FDA is to blame because the INACTIVE INGREDIENTS can make all the difference if a person is having a reaction to the generic medication. The generic may contain the same ACTIVE ingredients BUT it only takes that 1 single INACTIVE INGREDIENT that can really mess a person up.
wlw
I had been taking hytin 2mg & 5mg for bhp. They allowed me to sleep through the night without taking a bathroom break. Then terazosin came out & medicare
and bc priced it much lower, but now I wake up at least 2 or 3 times nightly for a bathroom break.
Just heard today that heparin inj in mutiple doses has caused 3 deaths. Company that makes this is in China and according to latest reports, has never been inspected by fda. This leads me to wonder how many raw generics products come from china and how many are inspected. Could this be why my generic hytrin doesn’t work??
Jean
I was just switched to the generic for Ambien. I had no trouble with Ambien. Since I switched to generic Ambien – I can not get to sleep at night & when I finally fall asleep – I only sleep a few hours. I find a big difference in the generic.
KRR
What a relief… I felt like I was crazy. I had been on Wellbutrin XL 150 mg… things were going well but my doctor felt I probably would do better at 300 mg. I started on Budeprion XL 300 mg, and I feel awful. I am on it for depression & bipolar disorder. I am eating more, crying more and more or less feeling very down and not worthy. I am asking to be given Wellbutrin and not the generic.
I also agree with the Synthroid, even though the ENT who did my thyroid surgery said it doesn’t make a difference… it felt like I was taking nothing when I was on the generic. Once my GP said no to the generic because they do not work, I felt amazing. There is a HUGE difference between Synthroid and it’s generic!
AH
I was put on sertraline (generic zoloft). I was glad for the savings, but I started to feel worse. I was tired all of the time, cranky, emotional. I was miserable.
I finally requested to be put back on the name brand zoloft and I started feeling so much better within a week.
I regret struggling with the sertraline (generic zoloft), and it wasn’t really any great savings after all.
TJ
I have been taking Toprol XL for several years when recently the pharmacist filled the prescription with the generic. I had difficulties staying awake during the day, with the main concern while driving. Upon switching back to the name brand I was fine. A second two week trial on the generic produced the same tired results. I am now back on the name brand.
DG
Generic estradiol compared to Estrace–major problem. On generic it felt like I was getting very little estrogen at all. Depressed, low energy, atrophic vaginitis.
Susan
I had no idea what was going on regarding generic drugs. About a week ago, I renewed a written prescription for Armour Thyroid at my local CVS. I brought it home, looked at the label and the pill, but didn’t see anything unusual.
This last week, however, I have been excessively tired, with dry skin and headaches, the symptoms of untreated hypothyrodism. I called the pharmacy yesterday to report the problem with my meds and request a replacement refill. The pharmacist checked my prescription and told me that it had been filled with a refill (even though I am uninsured and paid full price).
Based on my experience with my condition, it seems as though I was not getting ANY relief from the generic, and my symptoms were getting worse.
CVS’s excuse is that my doctor did not check the little box instructing not to fill with a generic. I plan to write both CVS and my doctor about this and the problems CVS’s arbitrary choice to switch meds on me have caused me.
If anyone has other suggestions about where people can file complaints about this, please let us know.
cek
I was taking zoloft and switched to generic to save money. Within a month, I felt that my depression symptoms had returned along with feelings of aniexty and a desire to eat. The next prescription refill, I returned to Zoloft and the side effects went away.
AEG
To RCB:
I was also on TEVA (yellow football) and was switched to ANCHEN (white round pill) when I switched to a mail-order perscription service. I was never on the “brand” Wellbutrin, but only on the generic. The TEVA version seemed to work fine for me; however, a few weeks into the ANCHEN version, depression returned, appetite surged, I experienced obsessive, scary thoughts and frequent crying.
I don’t know if I can request a certain mgfr. through the mail-order group, so I am having my doctor put me on the “brand”. I will pick this up today, so I will see. It can’t be worse than this ANCHEN crap. Since I have never been on the actual brand version before, I hope it goes well. Good luck to you.
jane
I am taking brand name sectral for irregular heart beats, and it works great. I was taking generic acebutolol from Walmart, and it worked until I decided to go through medco by mail to save money. Their caps were a different color and within two weeks weren’t working on my symptoms. I went back to Walmart’s acebutolol but they no longer worked for me either. Due to cost of brand name sectral from walmart on a monthly basis, I get the brand name sectral from Medco which works fine, and although $88.00 for 90 days worth compared to the $10.00 a month for generic was still barely doable. However my husband’s new job insurance won’t cover the Sectral, only acebutolol. What can I do? Go to Canada? Sectral without insurance is $198.00 for 30 days worth. I can’t do that. Where can I get a generic that will work?
Michelle NR
I was put on Prozac to determine if depression was causing my ADD or ADD was causing my depression. I took Prozac for quite some time, and then was switched to Fluoxetine. I was relieved because Prozac ran $16-$30 depending on the pharmacy and I could get Fluoxetine for only $4… but I may as well be taking a sugar pill. My head is in the clouds, I have to remind myself to keep my eyes on the road, I have to ask people to repeat things 3-4 times. I get annoyed at myself because it’s almost as if I’m worse when I take it.
BEW
My concern about the use of generic antidepressant medication is different than previous posts. The issue regarding the effectiveness of generic versus original medication extends to also include the manufacture of generic medications.
My story is as follows: About 2 years ago, I began taking Wellbutrin XL 300 and when the generic version of this medication, Bupropian 300mg, became available, my prescription changed. I noticed no difference in symptoms between the two forms of medication. My depressive symptoms returned, however, when the manufacture of my generic antidepressant changed. Initially my generic medication was manufactured by Teva; however, while on vacation, I had my prescription filled by a different pharmacy. At that time, I was provided with a prescription manufactured by a company known as Dr. Watson. Within a week of using this medication, many of my depressive symptoms returned without any major life changes/stressors. Fortunately, my pharmacist noticed my use of a different manufacture and promptly switched me back to Teva’s generic antidepressant. Within a few days, my depressive symptoms were dissipating.
I submit this post in hopes to raise awareness that the issue of ‘generic versus original medication’ extends to also include the concern of which company manufactures the generic medication. Had this change not been noticed, I may have experienced another depressive episode.
RCB
I have been taking Wellbutrin and its generic equivalents for about a year. My physician started me on brand name Wellbutrin 150 mg. It did not help as much as he expected and I had hoped, so he raised the dose to 300 mg. He said my insurance would like that, because it was available as a generic. When I started my third refill from my mailorder pharmacy I realized that the tablet looked very different from my previous refills. Instead of a “yellow football” shaped pill, I was now taking a round white tablet. The round white pill is manufactured by ANCHEN.
After 2 weeks of the ANCHEN pill, my anxiety attacks have returned, I’ve lost focus at work, and I feel like I’m sinking into my old depressive state. When I called the pharmacy, I found that the “yellow football” is the TEVA manufactured generic. My reaction to the two different versions of the generic seem to be exactly opposite what other folks have posted about their reactions to the brand name SGK Wellbutrin and the TEVA generic.
Has anyone experienced different reactions between the two generics from ANCHEN and TEVA? Based on the posts to this site it seems a little weird for me to ask my physician to request TEVA. I’d sure appreciate any comments. Thanks.
Lynn
I’m not sure if I can credit going to a generic brand of Zoloft for the increase in depression I’m experiencing–even feeling suicidal–but it’s possible.
I also wonder, though, if after having been on the same antidepressant for probably about 20 years if it’s just not effective anymore. I take 100mg of the generic and have started adding a half a pill to the regular dose in hopes it will get me out of this awful depression.
I had been pretty stable on Zoloft.
If generics really are poor in quality, it seems we’re no better off than people who gamble with buying drugs from foreign pharmacies off the Internet–either way, you don’t know what you’re getting.
Thanks for pursuing this issue.
al
I felt validated by your aticle in the February 2008 issue of PREVENTION magazine! Thank you for sharing your research! My insurance plan changed me a few years ago from the brand name to generic Prozac, and my depression returned with a vengeance! My doctor suspected the generic’s value, so I went back on the “real” stuff. Presto, depression gone! My father-in-law also had a similar reaction.
To add insult to injury, my insurer Medco charges me around $1200 for a 3-month-supply of the brand name Prozac! But I won’t go back to generic. My peace of mind is far more important. I wish I could make my insurance company believe I need the “real stuff”!!!
MJC
For many years I have taken a brand name medicine for anxiety, I CANNOT take the generic, I HAVE TRIED… today the price of my brand name is $137.78; same pill and same amount, generic is ONLY $25.60!!! No insurance helps cover me with brand name. I could write a book about it, and why I cannot do without this medication. Any answer will be appreciated.
nb
I was changed from Toprol XL 10 mg daily to the generic, metoprotol succinate, about 2 months ago. When I went in for a doctor’s visit 12/20/07, my B.P. was up, about 156/90. At home my B.P. checks had run 120-130/70-80 for a couple of years. Since then, and since I read the article in the St. Louis Post Dispatch paper, I contacted my physician to get it changed back to thebrand name. I have been on this for one week, but my B.P. ranges from156/89 to 194/104 with the lower number rare (once every two days). How long has it taken other peopleto get a return to normal on their B.P.?
KH
I had terrible nightmares–close to hallucinations–when I took Ambien generic marked APA. I did very well with the one marked PRAS, discontinued at my pharmacy (though I notice others didn’t). I like it better than brand Ambien. Now I’m trying to find it somewhere else. First pharmacy I called carries Teva generic Ambien.
PW
Last year the medication Effexor went generic. I was not aware of this until I had my husband’s script filled. When I saw the generic, I dumped the generic pills into the old bottle so my husband would think he still had the brand name. I did not tell him about this until about two weeks later when he started acting extremely depressed, as if the medication wasn’t working. I finally told him that it was generic that he was taking, but he still thought that couldn’t be it, as generic was supposed to be the same. I went back to the pharmacy and had them fill a script with the brand name, and within one week my husband was back to his regular self. I spoke to some of the doctors in the clinic where I work, and they had never heard of anyone with any problems with the generic Effexor. I know we will never try it again; the price may be cheaper, but the depression isn’t worth it.
MLA
I have experienced problems with Dr. Reddy’s generic for 60 mg Allegra. As soon as I took one of the pills I noticed a horrible “chemical” taste, and at first I thought my bottled water was bad. After about 20 minutes I had to burp and it proceded with another horrible chemical taste. I finally figured out that CVS had changed my generic after 3 days of taking this, and my allergy symptoms came on like I wasn’t taking anything. I informed them of the issues I had, but they are still using it, and it has been difficult to get the old generic.
I think this generic is possibly dangerous and should be removed from FDA-approved generics.
BCD
For years I have been taking Toprol XL for my cardiac irregular beats and to control my blood pressure. The pharmacy switched me to the generic Metroprolol. I am having premature ventricular heartbeats as well as high blood pressure. There is a problem with Metroprolol. This is a very dangerous situation. Fortunately, I got it switched back to the name brand.
The FDA needs to put this one on their priority list. These generics are a serious health hazard in many cases. This Metroprolol is a huge hazard that could cause stroke, heart attack and even death. Be careful if you are using this one. Change back to the brand immediately.
RJM
I have severe diabetic neuropathy, which is a very painful condition. I have to take long-acting Oxycontin, or synthetic morphine is what it actually is. I originally started off on a brand name drug, but it was very expensive and I did have some problems with side effects. My doctor changed me to Oxycontin, but I ordered the generic to save money.
I was very sorry I did; the medication did not relieve my pain, and I was miserable. The next time I got the brand name and have not had any problems with it. The problem I have is with the insurance company that doesn’t want to pay for the brand name. It is extremely expensive–in fact, it is over $800 for a 3-month supply.
The generic pain medications are NOT the same as the brand pain relievers, and the FDA needs to check into these particular ones immediately as you cannot live with severe chronic pain, and many of us are due to the ineffectiveness of the generic and the high cost of the brands. The FDA is not on its toes when it comes to these generics we are being forced to accept. GET ON THE BALL, people are dying.
SAJ
Metoprolol ER vs. Toprol XL SA 50mg. I had taken Toprol for several years for an irregular heartbeat and it worked very well. On 11-26-07 my pharmacist said that my insurance would only pay for the new generic. I started getting palpitations on the generic more severe than ever before. It has required an additional visit to the cardiologist with additional tests, and he wants to increase the amount of the generic drug to 75 mgs. It seems wiser to go back to the drug that was working. Where is this generic produced??
Rose Edmond
My Insurance company forced me to take a generic for Minocin by raising the cost ten fold. Since I could not afford that, I had to take the generic minocycline. I can tell you that there is one from RanBaxy (India) that just does not do the job. I got worse. Have been using Minocin for four years for rheumatoid arthritis. And it does work.
Paula
Thank goodness for this site! I have taken Celexa for about 5 years now, and recently starting taking the generic form Citalopram that Walmart offers. I noticed my irritability, sleeplessness, and anxiety returning immediately. I switched to Target’s generic brand of Celexa and the symptoms were relieved. I will say I feel the drug Celexa works much better than even the generic form from Target. What a shame that we can’t trust generics in this country, and the FDA doesn’t really seem to care!! Thank you to the Graedons for bringing this to our attention:)
P.R.
I have been taking Zoloft for two years. With Zoloft I responded immediately, and the doctor told me that he had never seen such a rapid and positive response. Six months ago I switched to generic after taking Zoloft for two years. The generics seemed to work OK and the pill actually looked like the Zoloft pill. At my last refill, the pharmacy provided me with sertraline from Roxane Laboratories. The pill looks as if it is not coated and tastes terrible. Within two weeks on this generic, I regressed two years. As the ConsumerLab.com report says, it appears as if it dissolved too fast (no coating?) and when I got up in the morning I was experiencing all of the symptoms of withdrawal. Back on Zoloft but still haven’t fully recovered. Thanks so much for your website.
BAS
I was taking Wellbutrin SR and was switched to the generic version. Soon after that I was switched to Wellbutrin XL, which worked a lot better, until they came out with a generic. Then I started getting depressed again, I couldn’t concentrate, and had other problems. Just by accident, my doctor upped my dosage of Wellbutrin XL and the mg were only available in brand name version. Ever since I started taking the brand name, I have been feeling great and am starting to get my life together again
Casey
The Bupropion XL generic form causes an unbearable taste in my mouth, and I feel terrible. Tense, irritable, just plain uncomfortable. I just had my doctor call in the brand form, which for years worked well and never gave me these side effects. What an awful thing to do to people.
Janice Hurley
I had been on synthroid for a few years with no problems. Then I went on the generic because the insurance company required it. It was fine until I had to renew it, but the second year’s subscription was from a different manufacturer. All my low thyroid symptoms came back and my doctor had me switched back to the name brand.
I was then put on 25 mg of Zoloft for migraines, which really helped eliminate about 75% of them. The insurance company stepped in again and made me take the generic. The generic didn’t work and the doctor told me to double the dose, which seemed to help, but it still wasn’t like the brand name. Then they switched to another manufacturer and this one doesn’t work at all, in fact it makes me feel light-headed, tired and it makes my head feel like there is a painful vice around it. The doctor is going to send a brand-name prescription for a month to see if the problem corrects itself.
No one should have to go through this kind of stress with two very important medications that need to be fine-tuned. Someone has to step in and change what’s been happening to these prescriptions.
UMM
My 16-year-old daughter was placed on Trileptal in Sept. 2006 after having suffered two seizures. After an initial period of fatigue, she adjusted well to the drug and didn’t have any more seizures.
In Nov. 2007, the pharmacy gave me a generic version of the drug called IC Oxcarbazepine. I asked the doctor about the drug and was advised to try it. Some people had seizures after using generics, but they couldn’t be sure the generic was the reason.
On Jan. 18, my daughter had a seizure while out running. Fortunately, she was able to find her way home and was not injured. I have since placed her back on the brand name.
I am amazed that pharmacists, insurance companies, and doctors can claim that these drugs are identical to the brand names and safe to use when they are clearly not. Because the generic is now available, I have to pay much more for the brand name because my insurance company won’t pay as large a percentage when a generic is available. Has anyone else had problems with the generic form of Trileptal?
shanon
i was prescribed wellbutrin xl generic form for my depression. I had been on it a week and experienced almost every side effect there was my doctor said they would pass. Last friday, suffered some episode where my left arm went numb and I felt as if I was having a stroke.
I was hospitalized for 3 days, attached to a heart monitor, having ekg’s 4 times a day and an echo gram. I was informed that my blood test revealed that my heart levels were high, indicating I might have had a heart attack? I am 29 years old. I eat great, exercise, and have had no past heart problems.
I recently saw a cardiologist and underwent a stress test, pending the results. I only took this pill to make myself feel better. I really hope this did not cause any permanent damage; I have two small children who need me.
Jody Berry
I was browsing through the news pages & came across an article on brand name & generic drugs, & I needed to voice myself too.
I had been taking Welbutrin XL 150 mg for about a year & a half when my doctor decided to raise the dosage to 300 mg to help with mood swings. When I was taking the name brand I felt ok & did fine on it.
Once I sent in my prescription for my mail order fill & received the generic, I had an uneasy feeling about it. I for one had an extremely hard time swallowing the nasty-tasting horse pill, it would cause me to gag & feel nauseous. Within days of taking the generic I started having very bad headaches, my blood pressure skyrocketed, & my mood swings & depression became worse. I thought that maybe I just needed to give it a little more time, but after 3 weeks I went back to my doctor in tears. I was able to receive the name brand again, & I’ve been fine.
Also, recently my doctor decided to try me on Zoloft. I had never taken the name brand before & when I had the script filled, I was given the generic. After only a week on the generic, I called the doctor’s office again in tears because the headaches I was having were so intense, my insomnia increased again, & my mood went right along with it.
MDP
My husband takes coumadin and he is monitored regularly by the heart clinic. A year or so ago he was given the generic, and for six months his INR was very erratic. No adjustment in dosage was able to straighten it out, until we realized the problem began when he switched to the generic. We went back to coumadin, and in a very short time he was okay again. We have since read in medical journals that once on coumadin you must stay on coumadin. If he had started with the generic, that would have been different — and cheaper.
One other thing — some fifty years ago my sister had her thyroid removed. When she was started on a thyroid replacement she was told NEVER to use anything different. Someone knew something then — and that is that even though generics are supposed to be the same, they don’t always work physiologically the same as the real thing!
ls
Generics usually work fine, but two related ones are of concern: for Mysoline and Fiorinal, an old medicine that works for my infrequent migraine. The generic for the latter does not work at all, and I have letters from two doctors for the brand name. Also, are you aware of the federal generic-drug prosecutions in the late 1970s by Baltimore’s US attorney Tim Baker? Amazing testimony.
Karen B
I am a pharmacist and had been on Zoloft 50 mg for about 6 months before generic came out. I also switched pharmacies after being on generic with good results. The new pharmacy used Teva brand; I don’t know what they put in it… but it made me feel like I had been drugged. I spent the week frozen to the couch. I asked my pharmacy to get Greenstone brand–the one I used previously. It works just as well for me as the brand. You can see if your pharmacy will order another brand for you if available.
CE
I have been taking Ambien because I do not remain asleep; and, I do not go into a deep sleep. When I take Ambien, I awaken feeling rested.
A few months ago, my insurance company, without notice to me, changed my prescription to the generic form, Zolpidem Tartrate. As any client of an insurance company knows, we have no say in our medications. I took the generic, and for months now, I have not been able to sleep well. I thought that I needed an increase in this medication.
By accident, I found some leftover brand Ambien. I took it and slept like a baby. I ran out of the brand Ambien and went back to taking the generic. I no longer sleep undisturbed.
There is no doubt in my mind that some ingredient is changed or left out of the generic Ambien. For shame that we are held hostage by these insurance companies, whose only concern is the profit line; and, shame on the FDA, that allows these inferior products to be manufactured and put on the mass market as the same medication as the brand name. We need advocates with clout, who can be the voices of those who have no clout.
Karen Patterson
I tried the generic for Zoloft about a year ago. I began to notice about a month after strange side effects that I thought were all in my head. I had heavy sweating, weakness, rapid heart beat, nausea. This began happening every once in awhile, then every couple weeks. I then decided to go back on Zoloft, and the symptoms eased up after about a month. It was horrible. One thing I noticed when I took the generic was that the pill would dissolve right in my mouth. I’ll never use a generic again!
LM
My sister is forced to take generic Paxil after being on brand name Paxil for twenty years. She is disabled and is on medicare and medicaid. Since January 1 she is forced to take this, and now is severely depressed and is having leg pains and no energy. I contacted the company for assistance with the brand cost, and they said since she is on medicaid they cannot help her. Amercia at its best!
g. malgran
i have had the same experience with generic drugs. My doctor precribed a pain killer for my broken back — percoset. My pharmacy gave me the generic, and it was ineffective. I went back to my pharmacy and was told the generic was just as good. Not so. generic didn’t work, and I was in extreme pain. I have written to my insurance company and am now back on percocet. Please tell me if I am alone. Liz Malgran
Elisa
I was on the generic Glucovance (2.5/500) for about six month. My HA1c kept getting higher and higher – as did my fasting blood sugar numbers. So my doctor upped my dosage to the generic Glucovance (5/500) 4 times per day) – my numbers continued to get worse. My morning fasting blood sugars were often between 175 and 200.
We decided earlier this month to try a month’s worth of the BRAND Glucovance. Within three days, my fasting blood sugar numbers were back down to 125.
There is obviously something with the generic that is not working. My doctor says that he has heard this from other patients as well.
aew
I took the generic form of Synthroid, and since then have had severe hair loss. I believe it is due to switching from brand to generic. I am back on brand since Nov. 07. Will track the diffrence.
js
I too switched to the wellbutrin XL 300 mg manufactured by Teva (large oval yellow pill, not coated). My symptoms were of nausea and severe acid reflux where I woke up at night choking. I can’t afford the brand name and went off for awhile. My cousin is a pharmacist and told me there is another manufacturer for the generic that is a small white coated pill manufactured by a different company. After being off the medication completely for several months, I am going to try this different manufacturer for generic and see if this helps. I didn’t know there were different manufacturers for different forms of generic for the same drug. The one I had a problem with was the budeprion by Teva.
LAA
I went into withdrawal symptoms with a switch to generic Wellbutrin about a year ago within a few days–exchanged them for brand name and no more problems. I have also been taking the generic form of Zoloft for a year after taking the brand name; and had felt like I was struggling with depression–I thought it was me. I will try switching back.
NB
I can only echo what others have said about generic Wellbutrin. I had no preconceived ideas on generics besides a positive attitude about their price, so there was no placebo effect. Within about a week of taking the generic, all my symptoms began to return. I believed that Wellbutrin no longer worked for me. The same has happened to me with Parnate. It works even better than Wellbutrin, but in spite of its unpopularity, it is very expensive. I was delighted when a generic tranylcipromine came out. I realized quite soon that the effect was much more feeble than original Parnate. Desperate, I now order enough Parnate from Canada to take a dose in the morning, which gives me a real lift. My other two doses are generic Parnate but do very little for me besides make me drowsy.
Ally
My husband was diagnosed with dysthymia (depression) two years ago. He started on Lexapro, which worked very well, but it caused weight gain. He switched to Wellbutrin XL (the dr. started him with some samples), which worked wonderfully! But when he filled the prescription, he had to go to the generic budeprion. I noticed his depression gradually come back, but blamed it on other things — life stress, etc. Only after several months did we admit that he was seriously depressed. Doing research I find that many people have complaints about the generic! From my perspective, his depression is the same as when he wasn’t medicated at all. He got an appointment to try and get the name brand, but we’re not sure yet whether our insurance will cover it.
Cyndi Bradbury
Add me to the Wellbutrin 300 XL problem. On Wellbutrin, I feel normal, happy, capable, intelligent. On the generic, I’m depressed, lethargic, spaced out and generally not doing well. This is a MAJOR problem.
Darren Rousseau
After being on 300 mg. of dialantin for more than 20 years, I tried the cost cutting measure of replacing it with the generic. Numerous times I had seizures as at first I thought it may have been something else. Now my wife and I are sure as to what’s the culprit. Hope that this info helps someone else!!!
LJ Michelson
Wellbutrin- the GENERIC was NO GOOD! did NOT work!!!! I go broke paying for the real thing, but it is a necessity!
Glucophage: Generic does NOT WORK! Even my Dr. knows this. Says it is common knowledge- So I have to pay for the real thing again- it is worth it!
Beware of Generic Drugs. Sure they may have the “Same recipe” But I bet if you and i and the neighbor all use the same recipe to make Chocolate Chip cookies- they will all taste and look different.
Cathy Garton
I have to take lots of medications for several different things, and for the most part, some of the generics work just fine, but for my thyroid problem, I can’t take a generic. I was prescribed synthroid, and after about a year my doctor finally got it adjusted using the name brand; then my insurance started filling it in generic–my readings went off the chart again, and I had to start all over from square 1. If the doctor thinks it’s best for you to be on name brand, then the insurance companys should fill it that way without forcing you to generics.
BHS
I purchased a generic version of Adderall made by a company called Core Pharma; simply put, the medication was completely ineffective. I have used a different generic version of Adderall in the past (made by Barr), which has worked fine. The Core Pharma version, however, is completely ineffective.
DW
I took Lotrel for over two years when I went to pick up my refill one day and the pharmacist casually mentioned that it had been filled with the generic since that was now available, and my insurance required filling with generic if available. I began to take it and over the course of about 3 months I noticed progressively worsening and frequency of dizziness, lightheaded-ness and began to experience numbness in my face. It culminated in my collapsing at work. I also experienced panic attacks, which I have never had in my 45 years. Nothing else in my life had changed over that period so I was certain it was the generic drug.
My doctor was skeptical that it was the generic, but agreed to write a new prescription for Lotrel marked dispense as written/brand only, and within a couple doses, the dizziness and lightheaded-ness dissapeared, as did the numbness, and I have not had a panic attack since. My insurance makes me pay the difference between the generic cost and the brand name cost, but I find the money somehow, because I will not go back to having those feelings as I did when
on the generic. I have to be able to function and do my job and the effects of the generic had gotten so severe that I could not function normally.
To all those insurance company reps who sit in an office and think they know it all about generics: let me tell you that you have no idea, and you also have no business dictating what a person should put in their bodies. If the doctor prescribes the brand name, you have no right to force the generic on the patient. Look at these pages and pages of people all reporting bad experiences with generics. The bad reactions from generics are causing additional doctor visits and hospital visits that insurance is having to pay for, and I can bet that the cost of the brand name
drug is way less than all that! Find some common sense!
JHS
I had been taking Zoloft 50 mg for a number of years for PMS and depression. In 2004 I started on Wellbutrin 150. I don’t remember if I had brand name or generic then but I think brand name. In any event, I didn’t have any issues. In fall of 2006, I was switched to generics of both and placed on Budeprion XL 300 mg. I spent most of 2007 in absolute physical misery. While I didn’t feel mentally depressed, there were days when I couldn’t hold my head up, dizziness (even while seated), had to take naps at work, more frequent migraines, fell more frequently, night sweats, felt that life was an effort. I had two phsyicals, none of which showed any abnormalities (and of course doctors knew what meds I was on) and finally took myself to a neurologist and went through a battery of tests to rule out MS. After MS was ruled out and I was told there was nothing wrong with me, I weaned myself from all medications and voila, I feel normal again. I’m not taking anything ever again. I lost a lot of faith in doctors and the pharmaceutical industry.
I spent all those months wondering what was wrong with me and that I was depressed beyond help. How interesting to read an article in Prevention magazine and then to discover this website and confirm that my problems were most likely the medicine.
Rachel
I have been a nurse for 20 years and went through a number of serious life stressors a couple of years ago. I wasn’t sleeping and felt very apathetic… just couldn’t make a decision about anything. My doctor put me on Wellbutrin 300 XL, which worked wonders.
Then my insurance made me change to generic, which I had no problem with initially. Then I began to notice that after a couple of hours, I would get extremely hyper, heart racing, agitated, then feel very sleepy. I knew that my body was breaking down this pill much faster than it should. I also started crying frequently for no reason, which I never did before.
My doctor and I spent the next 6 months fighting with the insurance company to let me switch back. They finally agreed at a cost of $80 per month. I feel much better but really can’t afford to continue at this price. I’m not sure what to do…
lg
After switching over to a generic brand of Wellbutrin (not by my choice, but the insurance company) my life has completely changed. I stay depressed, cannot sleep, gained weight and some days I don’t think I can handle just having one more thing to do. After talking to my doctor and he in turn contacted my insurance company, they approved name brand, but I cannot afford it. How they get away with claiming there is no difference between generic and name brand is simply retarded. The insurance companies should take a better look and realize that you have too many people complaining about the same thing.
mjh
I have been on wellbutrin xl for about 2 years. At the start of the 2007 year, my wellbutrin xl was 20.00 co-pay per prescription. My co-pay started to rise as the months went on. I decided to try ibudprion, because the generic was less per prescription. I started to realize that I wasn’t the same. I was fine and then all of a sudden I wasn’t. I didn’t think it was the med because the pharmacist assured me that generic was the same. I tried generic again the next month to see. It was the generic.
I went back on wellbutrin xl. My insurrance co. is mad and now my co-pay has gone up to 100.00 per prescription. Luckily another pharmacist has helped me and I am taking two 150 mg per day instead of one 300 mg. Believe it or not my insurrance only charged 20.00 this prescription. They’ll catch on and i’ll be screwed. How can the drug companies do this?? and How can my insurance company do this?? unbelievable!!! Best to all who are in the same boat. Hang in there!!!
David Witt
Add me to the list of people that had problems with generic Toprol. Their experiences mirrowed mine, mostly surges everyday. Now back on XL and seem much better despite the extra cost.
Ellen Coffey
I also took phenytoin for seizure. I went to New York to help my son. Before I left I wasn’t feeling well, but I didn’t take it too seriously. While I was there, I fell, but again, I didn’t think it was the phenytoin. I still wasn’t feeling good, and my husband took me to the emergency room. After doing all the tests, they told me I was toxic. My level was 51.2 and to stop taking it.
Knowing that I couldn’t just stop, I took one tablet a day and went home to my own Dr. When I got home my Dr. did a blood test and it showed me down to 36. I adjusted my meds, and I now I hope it’s all right. I asked my son about generic and he said they should be the same as a brand name. I believe that they aren’t, but I have to take them because that’s what insurance covers. Now after reading the article I have to be extra careful. Ellen Coffey
Laura
I haven’t really had any problems, the generic Metformin just didn’t work. I was on it for about about 10 months and never got any results, still had all my symptoms. I did switch to the extended release generic about half way through and got severe carb cravings and no relief from symptoms. I take it for Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome. When I finally switched back to the name brand I got my cycle within a month and up until a little over a year ago, I had relief from all my PCOS symptoms. I was on it about 6 years. I had to stop because I couldn’t afford it anymore.
Carolyn Franklin
I have been taking Coreg for a short time for heart palpitations (a side effect of another medication I take). According to my doctor, Coreg requires several weeks to adjust to, and the side effects of fatigue and shortness of breath were just starting to abate when a new pharmacy filled my prescription with the generic form of the medication. Very quickly I noticed queasiness after taking the pills, plus deep fatigue, more severe shortness of breath, and within days, diarrhea. In short, I felt terrible. After a week, when I figured out it was probably the generic medication causing the problems, I returned it and was able to get the regular Coreg. The queasiness and intestinal distress quickly went away. The fatigue took a little longer. I will never risk taking the generic again.
I had a problem with the generic form of FloNase, too — it simply didn’t work at all. It even smelled different from regular FloNase. The generic had no effect whatsoever on my runny nose.
Needless to say, I no longer trust generics. No matter what they tell you, they are not the same. The high cost of the regular medications (even with insurance) is a burden when one is retired and on fixed income, but the generics are not worth the risk.
L. J. Fuller
I have been on Zocor 40 mg for 10 years with no problems. When generic Zocor came out, I went on the generic, which was made by Zocor and had no problems. However, when my health plan changed to a different manufacturer of Zocor, I suffered terrible muscle pain in my leg and fatigue. It was very similar to the few months I was switched to Vytorin which had Zocor in it but also another drug. When I went back to the original Zocor both times, the pain and fatigue went away. However, my health plan makes me pay $68.00 per month for Zocor now instead of $40 for 90 days. I feel like I’m being discriminated against because my body rejected the generic form of Zocor. I would take the generic if I could.
S. C.
I’ve had eczema on my face and ears. The health store manager said try EMU Oil. It works… YEAH!
Emily Young
I have been on Neurontin since 1994 and due to cost asked for the generic Gabapentin. After three days the pain from my neuropathy was so bad I cried like a child. I went back on the Neurontin and have not had one bad day like that. I take 2400mg. a day for Trigeminal Neuralgia and Neuropathy.
winter
I have been taking Wellbutrin SR 150 x 2 for 8 years. In Sept of 07 I noticed that I was switched from the usual purple round pill to this generic white pill with writing and numbers on it. At first glance I was thinking, “Oh great, what new generic is out now and why?”
Ok! for about 2 weeks I took this new pill. One day while getting ready to go to work I decided to download one song onto my iPod before getting ready. As I went to get out of the chair my children said I just fell back into the chair and my eyes rolled back into my head. Lo and behold, I had a seizure. I have NO history of seizures in my family, nor have I ever had one. The only thing different that I had done in my daily life is switch from my trusty purple pill (DAW) to this now white pill (generic) form of WELLBUTRIN.
Needless to say I immediately stopped taking that Watson Labs version of Wellbutrin and returned back to the BRAND form (purple round pill) of Wellbutrin sr.
Today is now the 22 of JAN 08 4 mos AFTER I STOPPED! taking the generic and I have been fine ever since. I have reported this to the FDA and hopefully I am not the ONLY one this has happened to.
I don’t think people should be forced to take something new when what they originally had was working just fine.
I am very unhappy that upon taking that version of Wellbutrin sr from Watson Labs that that happened. Not only did it scare my children half to death, but it now has caused me to be marked as far as driving (can’t drive for 6 mos, not to mention I have to now put on all papers that I have had a seizure before), as far as my job is concerned, and mainly as far as my family is concerned. Now my family feels they have to watch every little step I make so I won’t hit the deck.
If anyone else has experienced this I do hope to read about yours.
STICKING WITH THE BRAND AND NEVER, EVER CHANGING.
Mike
I have taken generic drugs all my life whenever available and I have NEVER had a problem with them. Although I empathize with the people posting on this site, this is all anecdotal evidence and not scientific study. Many people develop “side effects” when switching to a generic because they have an anxiety about the switch or a psychosomatic fear that the product might be different.
Many generic products today are actually manufactured by the brand name companies…and also the trademark rights to the brand name are often sold to generic companies to produce! It saddens me greatly to see so many people needlessly spend hundreds or even thousands of dollars per year for an off-patent brand name drug, because that one day, years ago, when they tried the generic they had heartburn or their skin turned blue or whatever.
If a “brand name” company was making say $500 million a year on their single-source drug, and that slips to say $10 million a year after they lose patent, where’s the motivation for the BRAND company to keep making a quality product? Wouldn’t they be tempted to cut corners to stay profitable?
When people think of the term “generic,” they think of something like generic canned peas. Sure, different labels of peas may taste different, maybe have a different constistency. Of course, they are still peas. DRUGS are not like peas! Generic drugs are tested for the exact rate and extent of absorption as their brand name counterpart, with testing the average American would not even understand.
All that being said, I do believe the FDA is severely understaffed and cannot possibly monitor the pharmaceutical companies (brand and generic) the way they need to be. Reform is needed.
Finally, did ya ever notice:
When the FDA pulls a drug from the market because it is not proven effective, much of the public responds with, “Awwww! That was the BEST stuff!” :-)
PZ
My daughter has been taking Wellbutrin and was recently switched to the generic form. All of her symptoms started to return and she changed back to the brand name. I’m glad I saw your information. I had the same experience with my son on Ritalin several years ago. He was never able to take the generic.
CS
I purchase Lorazepam and generic Paxil from CareMark.
These are NOT the same as the brand names–or even the generic forms purchased at CVS.
Mary
I have been taking Toprol XL 50 since January of 2000 for irregular heart beat. My heart rate stayed at a constant 58 to 62 beats per minute after adjusting to the Toprol. In November of 07′ while picking up my prescription, I was told that it had been changed to a generic, Metoprolol 50 mg. I did not question the change because I had heard for years generics were just as good as brand names. On January first of 08′ while working in my kitchen and talking to my daughter I kept losing words or mispronouncing them.
I had developed a mild headache , which I very seldom do. Within minutes my head felt like it was going to explode on each side between my ears and eye socket. I have never had such a horrible headache. I laid on the sofa for hours hurting so bad I hardly knew where I was.
I have informed Wal-Mart that they are not to give me the generic again. After going back to the brand name I have not had a headache again. My memory is still fuzzy. I pay for my prescriptions so there was no reason for the change.
Don F
I am not complaining about generic drugs. I use generic for Toprol XL, have for over a year, no problems. I also use other generics. I wonder if the problems could be with the indviduals, not necessarily with the drugs
cc
There is definitely a difference in the effectiveness of Prozac and the generic drug Floxetine. At least three times I have given Floxetine a 2-month trial period and have found that it does not relieve depressive symptoms as effectively as Prozac. Unfortunately, however, I do have insurance, and at the present time must take Floxetine because of the higher cost of Prozac.
CJS
Blue Cross offered 6 months “free” if I would ask my healthcare provider to switch from Prevacid to the generic omeprazole. Within a week, I had so much heartburn I was taking over-the-counter products to help but it wasn’t enough. I called my healthcare provider and have had to double the dosage (one a.m. and one p.m.) to get the same relief as one Prevacid per day. When they are gone, I will be returning to the Prevacid.
Karen G
For many years I took Dilantin. Then I was switched to phenytoin and after a time I had a seizure and when I was taken to the Emergency Room my phenytoin level was 3 (it should be between 10 and 20) I switched back to Dilantin and have had NO PROBLEMS, although I still have my level checked frequently.
I am very angry that this generic was so ineffective, but I dont know what to do about it.
Adele
I have recently been diagnosed with depression and my Dr. prescribed Wellbutrin XR 150 mg, but the pharmacy gave me the generic, budeproprion. I felt immediate relief and hadn’t felt this great in 10 years; however, on the 14th day of taking it, I broke out in hives the size of 50 cent pieces in my groin and inner thighs, my eye was swollen shut, and I had welts going around my waist like a 1″ belt. Has anyone else experienced a reaction like this?
This medication helped me immediately feel like my old self, and I’m completely lost without it. I waited a week and tried it again at half dose, and within 24 hours, again, the hives and welts returned. I’m wondering if it’s due to the fact that it’s generic and has different fillers, or if it’s the budeproprion itself. If anyone has anything to compare this to, I would greatly appreciate it.
Scott Taylor
I switched from the brand Wellbutrin to the generic version (Budeprion) in February 2007. The last four months of 2007 were a nightmare for me. I found myself in a state of severe depression that I have never experienced before. My mind was in a fog, no energy, very irritable, severe mood changes and crying.
I made an appointment to see my doctor to ask about switching to a new antidepressant. Prior to my appointment, I did a search on the internet for other drugs such as Effexor and Lexapro. While doing the search, I ran across several reports about the generic version of Wellbutrin (Budeprion). Consumer Lab Report, MSNBC, and People’s Pharmacy to name a few. I was amazed and shocked to read about this. I e-mailed my doctor and told him that I was going back to the brand Wellbutrin. I felt results within a week. My depression lifted, mood swings are gone and I’m now happy and alert.
Had I not stumbled across the info on the internet, I very well could have continued in a state of depression. Yes, I paid less for the generic version and saved money, but saving human lives is more important. Even though the FDA says they are looking into this, when will our consumers be notified? The report clearly shows the drugs work differently because of the way the med is released. I’ve made a report with MedWatch. I wish there was something I could do to make sure all consumers are warned of this as many may be living in depression due to this generic drug.
CK
After a lifetime of depression, I was given a prescription for Wellbutrin XL, and for the first time in my life I had my health and other issues on track. Then the pharmacy gave me Budeprion XL. I went nuts, screaming, breaking things, getting into arguments with my boss…I almost lost my job. My sainted health care provider spent hours on the phone getting Caremark to allow me to have name brand. I’m now better, but that six week event has had a toll on my relationship with my boss, my fiance, my neighbors, and anyone else I had to deal with.
shawn wilson
i was given a sample bottle of the name brand wellbutrin XL by my doctor. i took 150 mg (1 tab) for three days and then i took 300 mg (2 tabs) for two days. i immediately felt better and could feel the drug working. today, i began the generic i had filled at the pharmacy at 300 mg (1 tab), and i can’t even tell i have taken anything except for a very mild effect. this is worrisome for consumers who rely on the FDA to inspect and make products safe. can u imagine the effect of someone who is taking a drug that has more importance than wellbutrin?
SW
I bought a bottle of generic acetominophen (tylenol). My 18 year old son took some over Christmas and said it ‘did not work’. A few days later my 14 year old son had a headache and took some. He had not been home when the 18 year old took it, but he independently said ‘it did not work’. This made me concerned that perhaps the tablet didn’t dissolve. The bottle has over a year shelf life left
KJW
A few years back, I was on a very low dose of Zoloft… maybe 5 mg… I was having high blood pressure problems/headaches/heart palpatations. One night at work, my BP was 150/100 so they sent me to the hospital.
They told me to stop the Zoloft cold turkey. The usual jitters followed a day or two later. Then one night I wanted to committ suicide. I don’t know why. I had NEVER been like that before. I was crying. I could not sleep. It was like an out-of-body experience. I could not control the thoughts and desire to do it yet I KNEW something was wrong. At 2 am I called a suicide hotline. They talked to me and I was able to get it under control.
The next day I saw a doctor and got on another med and I was fine. If it had not happend to me, I never would have thought it possible.
KJR
I was taking the generic form bupropion sr 150 as prescribed and was doing fine . These tablets were gold in color and round. My last script was filled with purple tablets and I have noticed the depression is not being managed as well. I feel as if the meds are not being released with this tablet as effectively as the gold ones. The difference in manufacturers is quite evident.
SB
I have had problems with both generic versions of Wellbutrin XL 300 mg – both the budeprion and more recently the bupropion HCL version. Felt like it wasn’t working for depression, headaches, weight gain, eye twitching, etc. My insurance co. only pays for generic but I am going to try and get a formulary exception if my Dr. will fill out the form. I kept thinking it was just stress, or “my imagination”, etc – until I read that others had experienced the same. Was even considering just going off of it and seeing what happened. I have tried other SSRI medications previously and did not like the side effects at all, and Wellbutrin (brand name!) had worked really well for depression & SAD.
Caroline Collins
Effexor, 75 MG, generic by TEVA.
Day 1. 75 MG. Made me weak, tired, and caused vomiting. I was so sick from the drug I couldn’t even aim for the toilet. Puked all over the bathroom floor.
Day 2. 75 MG. Made me weak, dizzy, terrified of dying. Was in bed, tried to get a glass of water from kitchen. Took two pillows with me because I didn’t think I could walk. Had to lie down halfway to kitchen (25 feet progress). Felt well enough to crawl to kitchen. Made it there (lost one pillow along the way) but couldn’t stand. Observed by a large black dog, I simply slept on the kitchen floor for a while. Eventually felt well enough to stand and get water.
Day 3. 75 MG. Made sure water was next to bed. Slept off the effects.
Days 4 through 20. 75 MG. Began noticing odd symptoms from GI tract. Nausea after taking pill was tolerable; lasted a few hours. However, slimy bloody mucous accompanying bowel movements proved not to be. I believe this is the listed side effect “colitis.” I am tapering off this drug and have an appointment with a gastroenterologist next week to see what havoc has been wrought in my body.
Kathleen Weadick
I have been on a cocktail of Effexor XR and Wellbutrin XL for a couple of years and was doing well. Last spring I noticed the depression seemed to be creeping back and was switched to Cymbalta as the Effexor seemed to be losing its effectiveness. It took two months to wean off of Effexor and I started Cymbalta in August.
That coincided with the release of the generic Wellbutrin XL and my insurance company substituted the cheaper drug. Like so many of you, my depression returned with a vengance. I lost all joy in life, even taking the Cymbalta.
Generics are supposed to be identical, right? So I thought the Cymbalta was to blame. By Christmas this year I was nearly suicidal, and I had never been before. The drug made me so lethargic I took it just before bed – instead of being “activating” like the brand name, the generic bud. put me to sleep. I felt worse than I have ever felt even when I was first diagnosed with depression and was taking no medication at all. I remember thinking Christmas Eve that I would have to wait like till February to check out because to commit suicide at Christmas would make my three sons associate the holiday with my death and I knew that was bad. Crazy!!!!
Last Saturday I went back on brand name Wellbutrin XL and it’s like a miracle. In four days my life is back. Its like a cattle prod has recharged my life and I caught myself smiling for the first time in months.
The generic form of this drug is of no more worth than a piece of poisoned candy. Like all of you, I’m angry at the lost months, the horrible suffering I endured, and the time lost because of this sugar pill. I’ll do all I can to bring attention to this travesty.
Donna Barner-Hamlett
I also was told by my insurance company that we had to switch to generic drugs, especially for the cholesterol and depression drugs. So I did. I was taking Lipitor 40/mg a day. Then I switched to the simvistatin “generic”. My cholesterol went up 100 points in 6 months. Needless to say, my doctor is now putting me back on Lipitor. Having to go through a review process and all the red tape is frustrating. Why can’t we get the brand name drugs to drop the cost a little? Is it too much to ask for our health and safety? Insurance premiums are at a new high, and we can’t get what we want or need. We are at their mercy!
lwb
I had a problem with generic Claritin (loratadine). I had had good results with relief of allergy symptoms after taking the sublingual form of Claritin. To save money I then tried the generic brand from Target. While I had no side effects, I had none of the allergy relief that I had experienced with the name brand.
V S
I was switched from Roches generic version of klonopin to a generic made by carraco. It plain and simply doesn’t work… It also made me feel as if I was more anxious and having seizure-like problems. My doctor now writes brand only on my Klonopin. The only problem is the expense… my insurance company refuse to pay for it.
I am sick of this.
e.s.
I too just went through a serious reaction to Sandoz Metoprolol succinate, the generic for Toprol XL. On Toprol XL, my blood pressure has remained at around 120/80 for over 2 years. Within a week of being switched to the Sandoz generic, my blood pressure was 160/90 at rest. My doctor reluctantly switched me back to Toprol XL and evertything went back to normal. Both the doctor and the pharmacist insisted there was no difference in the drugs and that it was my imagination. My blood pressure tester indicates otherwise.
Donna Bateman
AT the end of 2006, my insurance company restructured their drug tier system, putting my Wellbutrin XL 300 in the top tier. The pharmacy filled my prescription with the generic Budeprion XL 300. Within a few days, it was obvious the generic was not working. I felt anxious, upset, shaky, sad–all the feelings I had had which prompted the initial anti-depressant prescription for Wellbutrin. In addition, the Budeprion reeked of chlorine. Upon noticing these problems, I immediately quit taking the generic and demanded a refill with the brand name Wellbutrin. I had my doctor include “no substitution” on my prescription. It is apparent to me that this generic is NOT the same as the brand name drug and DOES NOT work!
Jane
I had been on Toprol XL (for heart rate) since 1995 with excellent results and the unexpected added side benefit of migranes reduced to 1 or 2 per year.
Received first generic supply (Sandoz) in November – what a difference. My heart rate is up, my blood pressure up, and migranes occuring 2-3 times per week and generally feeling lousy.
I am definitely going back to the REAL TOPROL XL – it will cost me an extra $30/refill, but as far as I’m concerned it will be worth it. I have always believed that generics were just as good as name brand, but not anymore. There is definitely something different between these two drugs – and something wrong with the Sandoz generic version!
Cecile Spenard
I have been taking the generic of Zoloft (Sertraline) for a little over two years. I started out on 50mg a day and slowly had my doc up the dosage to 200mg. This hasn’t helped much, and I’ve been thinking of asking my doc to up the dosage more, if that’s even possible.
It didn’t dawn on me until I read an article in a magazine about the generic drug for Wellbutrin and thought, hey, that sounds like what’s been happening to me!!!
My symptoms are the same as before I started taking anti-depressants. All I want to do is cry, I don’t want to do any of the things I used to enjoy, I don’t want to talk to anyone or go anywhere. I just want to be left alone!!! What really upsets me is how irritable and impatient I’ve been with my two little grand-babies!!! I don’t like feeling like this!!! That’s the reason why I went on the medication in the first place!!
will be contacting my doctor tomorrow to get a script for the brand name, Zoloft!!!
Thank you for posting all the comments! It’s really opened my eyes!!
J Paul
I was on Toprol XL for several years with no negative side effects – even though I am allergic to several drugs, including all forms of aspirin and anti-histamine drugs. Due to insurance requirements, I was switched to Metropolol ER. Within weeks commenced having severe hives and edema like I suffer from with any product containing calcium carbonate. Necessitated heavy dosages of Prednisone. Can’t find ingredient list for Metropolol ER. Anybody out there know ?
sharon sparks
HELP! I was recently prescribed wellbutrin xl, and of course my insurance wouldn’t cover brand, so I went with the generic. For the first time in my life, I had no desire to even live anymore. My anxiety and depression hit an all-time high.
I just went back to the doctor yesterday after reading all this stuff. I wonder how many people have actually gone through with suicide, and this drug company blamed it on depression. This stuff needs to be taken off the market ASAP. I left a copy of this website and all these postings in my doctor’s lobby in hopes of helping someone else.
TF
I was first put on Wellbutrin XL 300 mg to help me quit smoking, which I did, but I also liked how it made me feel. Any anxiety or depression was gone, so I just stayed on it, smoke-free until last summer when they switch over to the generic and my insurance won’t let me switch unless I talk to my dr. (have a call in).
I have started smoking again, gained 10+ lbs (eat the same and exercise 4x a wk, nothing different), and I am exhausted all the time. I was so worried that I had my dr. do a blood test to check for hypothyroid, but it was negative.
Looking at all your experiences has made me not feel so “crazy.” I just thought I was gaining weight and the smoking was just my lack of willpower, but it was the meds. I get so anxious now, so I smoke. So we will see, but to the FDA: these two drugs are NOT the same. Get rid of the generic so everyone can feel better.
Alton Akin
I’m glad that I found this website.The FDA needs to know that some generic medications are nothing more than sugar pills, so it seems. I have been taking 2mgs of Mylan Brand Clonazepam for about 4 years. It works just fine, my life was almost normal, but I went to get my script filled and the pharmacist said that they no longer can get Mylan. Something to do with the suppliers, so I was told. But I feel that it has more to do with the All Mighty Dollar. Pharmacies look for the cheapest brand of meds that they can find, most could care less about the people that have to take it.
My script was filled with TEVA brand Clonazepam, and it does nothing for me. I suffer from a major anxiety disorder, also OCD, and I have for about 24 years. I took the Teva and waited, but nothing. My eyes started to burn a bit, but other than that… nothing.
Teva Clonazepam needs to be pulled off the shelves. It is completly worthless. I take 2mgs 3 times a day, and 1 at night to sleep. But I haven’t slept since the change to Teva… I’m on my second night without sleep. When I took the Mylan brand, it kept my anxiety at bay, and I could sleep.
I have had problems before with generics, and now I’m to the point to where I don’t know what to do. I feel like my Insomnia is back, thanks to Teva.
Sonja
I have been taking Meloxicam (generic for Mobic) for about 4 months, and it was doing wonders for my arthritis, especially my knees. Last month the pharmacy informed me that the manufacturer had changed, so the pills were a different shape! I didn’t think too much about it until one week later, I started having pain in my knees and back again.
I questioned the pharmacy, and they said I had probably just built up a tolerance to it. I can’t believe that would happen in that short amount of time; now my doctor has doubled my dose to 15 mg from 7.5 mg. once daily.
After reading the Prevention article, I am going to find out what manufacturer made the 7.5 mg. and do my own study. I will shop around from now on and be very careful when it comes to generic drugs and different manufacturers.
James M. Kluge Sr.
I have been taking Lotrel for about two months. I feel weak and sore, and it is getting worse every day.
P.S.
Generic high blood pressure medication Nadolol was substituted for Corgard because of insurance insistence. Tried it for 2 weeks. Symptons: blood pressure goes UP every evening. I feel jittery, feel like beta blocker not working. Wake up feeling jittery, some dizziness. Not feeling like I should. Easily stressed.
JK
My blood pressure was effectively controlled for more than two years by Lotrel 10/20. When the generic version was released in 2007, my mail-order pharmacy shipped the Amlodipine/benazepril Caps to me in June. I took the generic medication and began feeling worse as the weeks went along. By September, my blood pressure was out of control. My doctor prescribed another brand name medication and my blood pressure is again in normal range. I am NOT a believer in any generic drugs.
rbuck
The generic drug for toprol xl doesn’t control blood pressure as well as the original. It also has different reactions from the original.
Marge P
I have what is known as a rapid heartbeat, and was on Lopressor, which was working fine. They then switched me to a generic because it was cheaper. My episodes of an irregular and fast heartrate increased so much that it was almost non-stop.
I called my pharmacist and they assured me that the medicine was the very same thing.
I called my doctor and told him that the generic was not working and he wrote me a script for the real Lopressor and put on it not to substitute. Have not had an episode for a long time now. Feel great.
I also take OTC Prilosec. I found that if I switched to the generic, I could buy it for $4.00 at Walmart. It was awful. I had non-stop heartburn, couldn’t sleep for the acid reflux etc.
Went back on the OTC Prilosec and paid for it myself. Almost instant relief.
Thanks for letting me know that this is not all in my head as my doctor would like me to think.
BK
My experience with Budeprion is like most of those I have read on this site.
In March of 2007, my insurance company switched my Wellbutrin XL 300 to the generic-Budeprion.
Within six weeks, my depression had returned full force.
In May, my doctor put me back on Wellbutrin and within 2 to 3 weeks, I was fine again.
Obviously, in my case and in many others, Budeprion does not work. In many cases, it has even done harm. Why is it still on the market? What can an individual do to help get Budeprion off the market?
WB
I have had the same problem with budeprion as many of you. It is an awful substitute for brand name wellbutrin. My life has spun out of control due to building anxiety and depression after switching to the generic wellbutrin. If you have recently made this switch to the generic go to your doctor and insist on being perscribed brand name wellbutrin.
Sherry Jackson
I too have had unpleasant experiences with the generic drugs for Wellbutrin and Lotrel. Within weeks of beginning the generic medications it was as though I wasn’t taking anything at all for depression. I couldn’t sleep, I felt “on edge”, felt the need to cry all the time, etc. Frankly, I do not want to ingest anything made in China. That may sound extreme, but it is a fact. I just visited my doctor this morning for new prescriptions for name brand Wellbutrin and Lotrel.
LJP
I just finished reading the article in Prevention magazine (Feb 08). I TOO had the same experience with the generic drug Budeprion XL 300. I was taking samples of Wellbutrin XL 300 from my doctor and feeling great–so she wrote me prescription. When I had it filled and started taking the generic… my symptoms returned.
I had been taking anti-depressants for many years… and at this point decided why bother if it isn’t working, so I went off–I had no withdrawal effects… which surprised me because every other time I have stopped an anti-depressant I have experienced extreme exhaustion, dizziness, and increased depression. It obviously wasn’t being absorbed into my system.
What a relief to know that it wasn’t just me. My doctor and pharmacist were skeptical when I blamed it on the generic.
Donna Morrison
I just read information regarding Wellbrutin and the generic replacements in the Feb. 2008 Prevention Magazine. I was shocked to see that so many people had the same problem my husband had. He was on Wellbrutin for years, then our presciption plan changed it to the generic Bupropion ER 150.
He started to go back into depression over a year ago. His physician finally added Cymbalta 20mg to the 450 mg of Bupropion he is already taking ((3) 150 mg doses a day). The Cymbalta makes him feel great–but now we don’t know if he needs the Bupropion as well.
We had no idea that there was a difference between the Wellbrutin and generic drug, and now I understand why he was starting to have severe depression symptoms again. It is very discouraging to find out that it was just the change from a drug to its generic version. He was miserable for months before his doctor added the Cymbalta.
joseph cope
My dr. prescribed celexa, and my insurance decided I needed the generic citalopram. It dosen’t work. Please continue to help the lower-class income people . joseph
MT
My husband had been changed from Toprol-XL to the generic metoprolol succinate. Recently I noticed what I considered a very strange occurance, which I called “curved penis”. Instead of what was a “normal” erection, his penis curved almost straight up (instead of straight out). This has become very disturbing as it interferes with normal intercourse. We have not discussed this yet because I am not sure just how to broach the subject without causing undue discomfort. So I googled “curved penis” and actually found it is a scientific, medical condition called: Peyronies Syndrome.
Although one explanation is the growth of a type of scar tissue inhibiting the normal erection, another reported population has the symptom because of taking beta-blocking drugs! I asked my husband about how long ago he was “switched” and he said about 6 months ago–coincidentally about when I started noticing this problem.
Could this be a possible cause that should be explored and how should I best approach my husband with this information? Is there ANYONE else out there who has had a similar experience?
robert J. Harsch
Today’s article in Newsday (Tuesday, 1/8/08) regarding the generic metopolol succinate, was very timely for me. I was on the generic for about three months with no problem. When I went for a refill of the prescription, I was given a different shape pill. I was advised that the store (Riteaid) had a new contract with a new supplier, but I was assured that the drug was the same as the one I had been taking.
After two days I felt edgy, and that second night I had a headache. I didn’t relate this to the drug, until the next day when I went to my cardiac rehab gym. On arrival my blood pressure was somewhat elevated, and my heart rate was also somewhat elevated. When I started my warmup treadmill exercise, I noted that my heart rate during the exercise was far elevated from normal (90 v. 107). (I am required to wear a heart rate monitor during exercise.) I started a second full exercise, and again experienced a very elevated heart rate (110) and stopped my workout.
I kept the monitor on and went to Riteaid. I showed the druggest the continuing high heart rate (105). To their credit, Riteaid is attempting to get the generic they had previously supplied me. If this doesn’t work I will have to go back to my doctor for a new script for non-generic toprol-xl. Since my drug plan requires generic when available, I will be paying a much, much higher fee for this drug. Robert J. Harsch
LCZ
When I changed pharmacies I noticed that my prescription of generic allegra (180mg Tab) seemed not to be working. After some research I found that the old pharmacy was using a generic manufactured by Teva Pharmaceuticals. The new pharmacy is using a generic manufactured by Dr. Reddy’s. The difference was like night and day. My symptoms with the Dr. Reddy’s brand were the same as when I didn’t take any medication. The Dr. Reddy’s brand generic Allegra [Fexofenadine] seems very inferior.
Clark Chirlin
About two months ago my toprol-xl 100mg. was refilled with a generic product. My blood pressure which has been totally under control for the past 4 years elevated 40 pts. immediately after I began use of the generic. My drug plan will not cover a medication if there is a generic subsititue available.
gs
I have taken Toprol XL for a long time for skipped heartbeats. My insurance company changed me to the generic and about 7 to 8 hours after taking the generic I had heartbeat problems. I reported this to my doctor and she wrote another prescription for the brand only and I have not had any problems since. Generics are not the same as the brands. They may have the same main ingredient, but it is not released in the same manner.
JWR
Four or five years ago when I still lived in Durham, NC, I went to the KMart pharmacy to pick up a refill for Synthroid. The line was long. When I got to the window and was handed my prescription I was surprised that it was filled with a generic. I questioned the pharmacist about why she had filled this with a generic when my doctor’s script clearly said brand name only. Claimed I was wrong about my doctor requesting brand name only and insisted that I try the generic. (Now I make a copy of the script before I hand it over to the pharmacy.) I gave in primarily because of the line of people behind me.
Within less than a week I was very tired, having problems with feeling cold and feeling pain when air moved across my skin…. all symptoms I had before being diagnosed with hypothyroidism. I went back and talked to a different pharmacist who quietly gave the brand name.
I wish the generic did work! Because there is a generic form of the drug, my insurance program requires a higher co-pay for this brand than for other brand name drugs… Synthroid seems to be targeted for higher patient co-pay. What can be done?
Carol Glascock
I take Placquenil and several times was given a generic. Taking most of the generics are like taking a placebo except they don’t help at all. So I have to pay a high copay for the real deal.
R. Cantrell
Not life-threatening, but I noticed a significant difference in the generic Benzonatate I was just prescribed for a cough due to bronchitis, which the pharmacy filled with a Provident product. It hardly did any good at all — I was forced to take Robutussin to get any relief. When I took a generic product from Inwood in 2006 for the same problem, it worked well. Next time, I’m going to ask for the brand name Tessalon.
dcf
I was glad to see at least 2 postings re generic Ultram. I have fibromyalgia and osteoarthritis. I am severely allergic to aspirin and sulfur (hives, swelling, etc.) I depend on Tylenol and ultram 50 mg. for pain control. I have been using a generic tramadol for over a year and it has worked well.
6 weeks ago Walgreens changed to another company’s generic. This Tramadol simply does not work. The Tylenol I can tell when I have taken it, but the Tramadol is absolutely useless. The new drug company is shown as AKYMA. I plan to check other pharmacies to attempt to get a better generic. As with everyone else, my insurance company doesn’t have brand name Ultram in their formulary.
AA
I took Wellbutrin xl 300 for years. I weaned myself off, but symptoms of depression returned. I received the generic Bupropion xl 300, and thought, what a great thing ($$)! Months later, I have never felt worse!! I am experiencing no energy or motivation, menstrual changes, IRRITABILITY, headaches,etc. I am going to try the real Wellbutrin for a month, and hopefully things will change!
MR
Was prescibed Diltia XT 240 mg ER Cap ANDR for high blood pressure and regulating heartbeat. Was switched to generic Diltiazem 40 mg ER Cap MYLA. I noticed that the Diltiazem cap. does not disintegrate as it is supposed to–it goes thru the bowel whole. Talked to the pharmacist and he said to use a needle and poke two holes in the cap. Didn’t work and I have an appt. with the Dr. today and will report this. My B/P is higher than usual.
JLM
I am experiencing problems with TEVA brand generic leflunomide (generic for Arava). This is the second time that my pharmacy has switched from Barr or Apotex to TEVA, and my arthritis symptoms have flared up so badly on the TEVA brand that I have had to take cortisone to get my symptoms under control. I think I would do just as well to take nothing more than inbuprofen than take TEVA again. TEVA is terrible!
MARLENE
After years of suffering with compulsive eating, I started taking Wellbutrin. In less than a year, I had lost sixty pounds; it changed my mindset and my life completely–every day I walked four miles or did eighty laps in the pool. I was healthy! The compulsion had disapeared.
I was switched to the generic, and since then I have gained forty lbs, the compulsion is back in force, all I want to do is sit on the couch. I cannot get back on track.
I’m thankful for this site, I have a reason to hope again. I have been so ashamed each time I see my Dr. I can finally say there is a reason I have failed. This is not my fault, please put me back on Wellbutrin.
How can companies ruin people’s lives just for the sake of the almighty dollar. This generic needs to be exposed for what it is.
Susan
Another generic medicine that does not appear to work is the Terconazole 0.8% vaginal cream-3 day regime for yeast in fections. It is a substitute for Terazol Cream. The generic is made by Watson. Pretty soon my drug coverage will be all but worthless as I continue to insist on name brands. I have a suppressed immune system and the brands bought over the counter aren’t strong enough to treat my constant problem with yeast.
I can add that to my need to have brand name Synthroid, Avinza, Celexa, Zonegran, Prempro, Premarin and hemotherapy agents for my multiple sclerosis…
Susan
When my insurance company switched my husband from Wellbutrin XL to the generic, I almost lost him–he became so depressed that he was ready to commit suicide and was unable to work. He has Parkinson’s Disease, and depression is part of the disease. Ultimately he was taken off the generic and Cymbalta was added because his depression had become so severe while he was on the generic and suffered in silence so long in a very stressful job supervising 45 employees. Now he is like a new man. But I was shocked to realize why I almost lost him.
I am struggling terribly with epilepsy secondary to multiple sclerosis. I started having seizures again virtually on a daily basis following an allergic reaction to an antibiotic, despite having my generic Zonegran dosage increased from 400mg to 600mg per day for the last 3 weeks. I have a feeling that if I were not on the generic, my seizures would be controlled, as this medicine worked very well for me up until the last few months when our insurance began forcing us to have generic everything unless the doctor wrote not to substitute.
The very same thing has happened with my antidepressant. I am taking 60mg of generic citolopram and barely getting the relief that 40mg.of Celexa gave me.
And again when I had to take Lasix for fluid buidup last year following chemotherapy.The Lasix would pull 6 lbs. off, and the generic, only 2lbs.
Hope this isn’t too long. I, like you, once believed in generics, but no more, especially not after what almost befell my beloved husband, and the very miserable last three weeks I’ve had mostly in bed either trying to recover from a seizure or dealing with the awful side effects of the medicine.I long to see my doctor this tuesday and get it all thrashed out. Thank you so much for what you are doing.
MARIA PENTAKIS
I thought that I was losing my mind with all the side effects of the generic Wellbutrin!!! PLEASE DO SOMETHING TO TAKE IT OFF THE MARKET!! I cannot sleep, I am so anxious, my stomach hurts, I cannot go about my everyday life! I have no energy.
When I picked it up from the pharmacy I thought that it was a mistake! They say, no, it is the same thing. Then I called my doctor, and again I heard the same story, so I started taking it, and from the first day I started living a nightmare!!
I need Wellbutrin to help me deal with my husband’s health problems, not to make me sick!! HE NEEDS ME TO BE THERE FOR HIM!! I wanted to add my voice to this BIG PROBLEM. I will never take it again if is not the real Wellbutrin.
JAM
Like many others, I was placed on Zoloft after a heart issue, resulting in stents. Due to the sexual side effects, my Dr turned to Wellbutrin XL for me. Excellent results! Late last year BCBS required me to go to the generic form, Budeprion 300XL. Slowly but surely my depression has come back, mostly noted by myself but also confirmed by my wife.
I am now headed back to the Dr. for a review of this medication and hopefully a return to Wellbutrin. Will report on results next week. JAM
KC
I was on one brand of generic Prozac for about two years and did fine. My pharmacy changed generic brands and it was not effective at all. I became depressed and irritable right away. It took awhile to figure out what was going on, but once I asked the pharmacy to special order the original generic brand I was fine again.
Nanette
I have been taking Synthroid for almost 43 years after removal of my thyroid. About a year and half ago, after being switched to generics, I developed all the symptoms of hyperthyroidism. Dr. changed the strengths at least 5 times before deciding I must be on Synthroid only. It took almost 4 months but my counts have been perfect.
liz
I had been taking Wellbutrin xl 300 for a year and a half for an eating disorder. I then became pregnat and my dr. and I decided I would remain on the medication for fear of a relapse. At the same time my pharmacy switched me to a genaric version, budeprion xl 300.
Within weeks I was sad all the time, empty, nothing seemed to matter. This went on for months and I thought it was pregnancy hormones. Every time I took that huge yellow pill, I thought, why bother, it does nothing. Many times I wondered if it could be the generic version doing this. I asked about it and was told it was the same as the original, so I believed them–until I came across an article about others who had experinced the same effect.
I immediatiy called the pharmacy and demanded to get the Wellbutrin filled which my dr. had perscribed in the first place. I too am paying a much higher co-pay $48.00 a month. It seems so unfair to be penalized because a generic doesnt work. But I will pay it and continue to pay it because my health is priceless. Maybe not to the big money-making companies, but to my loved ones and I it is.
DKM
I have taken brand name Ambien on several occasions. It has always knocked me out. I slept for 8 hours and woke up refreshed. I switched to generic (TEVA) Ambien a week ago and got absolutely no results. It barely makes me tired. I am up all night. I have noticed that the major complaints about generic drugs on this site are from TEVA. There should be more stringent monitoring of this company.
D Palmquist
I have been on Zoloft for 12 years with wonderful results. Last year when my insurance company switched me to a generic it was absolutely horrible. The anxiety and lethargy were unbearable. I had a coworker who also got switched and we compared symptoms. We both went back to the name brand but $70 a month is cutting into my budget. All because some man sitting at a desk somewhere says what medication I should take.
K Hurst
I almost cried with relief when I read that others had problems with the generic for Wellbutrin. A few years ago I was required to switch to the generic, bupropion. Within a couple of weeks I was sliding into depression again and experiencing extreme anxiety. I was switched back to the name brand and improved.
A little over a year ago, with a change in insurance and doctors, I was forced to try it again with disastrous results. It was as if no one believed me… saying generics were exactly the same. I had to appeal to the highest level but eventually got switched back. The insurance company still attempts to switch me back to generic via mailings and calls to my doctor.
It seems to me if you almost end up in the hospital using a drug that does not work you should not have to keep proving that you need it.
A.C.
I am very suspect of the generic METOPROLOL 50 mgm ER tab substituted for TOPROL XL 50 mgm. BP well regulated by Toprol XL; then the Sandoz substitution. BP and pulse much higher; had to pay for return to Toprol XL; insurance WANTS generic!
Patricia Hamaty
I was on Toprol XL 100 mg for many years with no problems. After being switched to the generic Metoprolol, my blood presure went thru the ceiling (200/100) and I began to have irregular heart beats. It took about a week of being back on the regular Toprol XL to get back to normal.
pf
I was prescribed bupropion sr in addition to my other meds to alleviate breakthrough depression from bipolar disorder and dissociative identity disorder. Seemed to work ok at first… I didn’t notice the brand. My last refill a month ago was made by sandoz. I read the article in prevention’s february issue about too-rapid release of generics, and that might explain why I feel fantastic in the morning after I take these meds and then feel like killing myself by 5 p.m.
This really sucks–I have a hard enough time keeping my life normal without going to war with my insurance company (been there, done that, unsucessfully more times than I want to think about).
Barbara Coffin
I had taken Wellbutrin XL for over a year and it was the only antidepressant that did not give me major side effects. I felt great on it until I changed to a generic form. I was happy because of the cost but after 6 months I thought I was losing my mind. I was ready to go to a psychiatrist when I read an article about the side effects of the generic form. My son approached me one day and said that my family was very concerned that I was beginning to have dementia. I switched back to the regular Wellbutrin and found relief in only two days. I cried every single day and for four months never slept over four hours a night. It was a nightmare.
MBR
I was taking Wellbutrin XL 150 and needed to increase to 300–I didn’t feel horrible on the 150, but I was straddling the line most of the time. When I requested an increase, my doc suggested the generic because it was an increase, so even if the benefit wouldn’t be as great as with the name brand, it would still help, she thought.
However, since switching to the generic, I almost feel as if I’ve stopped taking anything for depression. For the first 4-6 hours after taking the Budeprion XL, I feel jittery and anxious, and recently had an extended bout of crying (which never happens to me). By the night and following morning, I feel pretty depressed–this has become routine. I’m convinced the delivery mechanism, and maybe the drug itself, is not the same as Wellbutrin.
CD
Several months ago the pharmacy substituted generic Zolpidem for an Ambien prescription (I’m sure my insurance required this change). I took 10 mg. each night as I had done with Ambien, but found that I was dizzy in the morning, couldn’t awaken and felt groggy most of the next day. After my daughter said we’d talked on the phone one night and I couldn’t remember it, I began to halve the pills. I am now taking 5 mg of Zolpidem but the prescription is for 10mg Ambien. How are generic companies allowed to change the dosage? How dangerous is this? I find it to be a frightening situation!
James Browning
I had been taking Lotrel successfully for high blood pressure for 10 years, but recently asked my doctor for a generic alternative so that I could reduce costs. I was happy to find there is generic for Lotrel (Amlodipine/Benazepril by TEVA) with the attendant cheaper price. It took me only a few weeks, however, to realize that this generic did nothing for me as my blood pressure quickly rose from the 130’s over the 60’s and 70’s to the 160s over 90 range.
I have been unable to contact my doctor due to the holidays but on January 3 will contact him for Lotrel once again. I will also let my insurance company (GEHA), my supplier (MEDCO), and AARP know of my problems with this generic. I see from other posts herein that I am not the only one with the Lotrel/Amlodipine/Benzaepril (TEVA issue).
There is no cost savings with generics where they lead to frustrations, deepening health issues, more doctor visits, tests and, very possibly, additional medications.
KH
Have been taking Toprol XL for 8 yrs with good results, bp 125/84 consistently. Switched to generic within the past month, metoprolol succinate, and have had racy heart beats, high bp 190/99, high pulse rates 90+.
MJ
I have had this very same problem…
A local doctor prescribed Toprol XL (25 mg 2xday) several years ago. All went well. Last week my pharmacist refilled my prescription with generic “metroprolol succinate” — per BCBS senior Plan B. Two days later BP shot sky high – 190/100. Found leftover pill of brand Toprol XL. Hour later, 140/90, high but okay. THERE MAY BE A PROBLEM WITH THIS NEW GENERIC FOR TOPROL XL. This has never happened before.
Kerri
I had been taking 200mg capsules of Phenytek, a generic of Dilantin, which is manufactured by Mylan Pharmaceutical Co. On September 19, 2007 I had a grand mal seizure and upon admission to a local ER, my lab results indicated my Dilantin level was UNDETECTABLE! It was not just low, it was actually 0.0! I was faithfully taking my one capsule at bedtime every night, in fact I had just swallowed that evening’s dose right before the seizure.
I have reported this to the FDA and Mylan Pharmaceutical Co. I still have no answer as to the authenticity of these capsules. I filled this precription at Publix Pharmacy in North Fort Myers, FL. I would encourage anyone taking Phenytek to have their labs done to ensure you have an adequate level in your system. I am still taking Phenytek for seizure control because my insurance company, Blue Cross and Blue Shield of NJ, mandates that I get a generic when one is available. However I have my levels checked monthly to ensure that each bottle I fill is actually providing an active ingredient.
Jen
After taking the generic form of Wellbutrin XL called Budeprion XL I would have extreme nausea and aniexty. These symptoms would begin about an hour after taking my medication and begin to get better after 12 hours. I began having this sense of doom, shortness of breath, chest pain, crying episodes, dizziness, nausea and feel out of it. Finally I put it together that this was related to the drug because when I wouldn’t take it I would begin to feel better. Not normal, but better. I have reported this to the FDA and will be seeing my dr. this week. I believe Budeprion XL is making me very sick and will not take it ever again.
vjs
I had been taking restoril and was doing well. My doctor than gave me the generic and I don’t get more than 5 hrs sleep.
mh
I’ve taken ambien occasionally as needed to sleep. It’s always been very effective. However, when I switched to the generic, it performed quite differently in that it only induced approximately 4 hours of sleep. Then, I’d wake up and not be able to sleep the remainder of the evening. I went back to ambien, and am now much more skeptical of generics.
P.A.L.
I was taking prilosec but switched to the generic because omeprazole was covered under my insurance plan. I noticed that my acid reflux symptoms were coming back so I doubled up on the generic and that still was not as effective as the lowest dose of prilosec.
rma
I went through a period of severe depression several years ago and was put on Zoloft and therapy. I have been doing very well for 6 years. Our insurance changed and I was given a generic, and nothing has been the same. I have become depressed again, lost my job, and could not get out of bed.
I now pay for the zoloft out of pocket, which is expensive, but I could see the difference in 3 weeks, much better. I do not think that this should be allowed. The generic drug also caused problems with my stomach. I think that the FDA should be held responsible, and also financially accountable. Who knows what the long term effects of the generic might be.
Sabrina
I had a problem with the generic for prilosec. My pharmacy insisted that it is the same, and that I should use it since my insurance will not pay for the regular prilosec. I have even used the over the counter version and found it to be useless as well. I have to pay full price for my prilosec because I simply have no choice. I become very ill if my reflux is not kept under control on a daily basis. This includes trips to the ER and hospitalizaton. It really ticks me off that my insurance refuses to cover this medication for me when my doctor deams that I have to have it.
keb
My son has Aspergers/ADHD/OCD and takes Ritalin for his ADHD since 2002. About 2003 timeframe, he was given the generic for Ritalin 20mg regular, and it was like he was taking a reduced mg. (Please note, it took us 9 months and 12 medicine combinations to get his ADHD and OCD meds correct.) Since that time, we’ve always requested brand name on his Ritalin 20mg.
He takes Ritalin LA in the mornings. At this time there is no generic available for the LA, so I do not pay full price. The generic Ritalin does not work! Plus, Ritalin is the ONLY ADHD medication that works for my son (he’s tried Metadate, Concerta, Strattera, Adderall). As for the stories of Ritalin slowing growth, he’s 13 and has grown 6 inches and gained 25 pounds this past year.
MM
I was taking 300 mg of Wellbutrin XL and feeling good. My insurance company then stopped covering the Wellbutrin XL 300 and only covered the generic. Almost immediately I started feeling depressed again, and even felt worse then before I started taking the Wellbutrin. I eventually stopped taking the generic all together. The FDA needs to take notice of this so that the insurance companies will stop giving people problems getting the non-generic form. I cannot believe in this day and time there are this many people that have problems with a generic drug and it is still on the market.
T Scholl
First let me say what a great site this is and I am glad I found it. I have also been on oxycontin for eight years due to chronic back pain and failed surgery. I take three 40mg and 3 20mg a day. I was always given the name brand Oxycontin until last month the pharm. was short about 45 40mg pills so he gave me 45 generic 40’s. They are the Teva 40mg oxycodone.
The short story is they did not work at all–same problems as everyone else: extreme pain, withdrawal symptoms, etc., etc. Talked to the pharmacist and he hates the generic product–lots of problems. Now my doctor writes on my RX that “brand name is medically necessary.” The insurance might complain, but it’s doctor’s orders.
I also think just from reading the posts that the problem has a lot to do with Teva. Seems there are a lot of other drugs made by this company that don’t measure up to the real thing. I had a friend that is on the watson brand and has no problem with them.
I hope this post helps some. It is bad enough to be on the meds to begin with but than being on one that hurts more than it helps ought to be criminal…..
Penny Lindsey
I have been taking Zoloft for about 9 years now. I had never had the generic version until last year–and sure, the price was better, but the generic version from manufacturer Apotex did not work for me at all. When they first gave me generic it was made by Teva and it worked fine, I didn’t notice any difference. Then suddenly they changed the manufacturer. I noticed the difference at once. For one thing, the pill was a lot smaller, but within a week or so I was feeling stressed and depressed and could tell something was not right.
I called my pharmacy and they said it should be just like the name brand, but I told them it wasn’t and also told my doctor at my next visit. He specifically wrote that prescription for zoloft with Teva as the manufacturer. They have to order it in especially for me, but so far it is working. I refuse to take the version made by Apotex. It is not worth it.
CRW
I have been taking Monopril HCT for hypertension for about 10 years. Several years ago they switched my Rx to a generic. I had severe diarrhea for 3 weeks. It took me that long to determine the cause. Still, every time I get a new script, not a refill even though the Dr. writes DAW on it, I fight with the insurance and the mail order pharmacy to get the brand name and not the generic. Why won’t they take your word for it when you tell them something makes you sick??
Another comment, I took Pamelor for SAD only in the winter months. It was made by SANDOZ. Surprisingly, I found that the generic by Dan-something was more effective for me. My sister, however could only take the brand name.
I believe that if you are in-tune with your body you will likely notice a difference. In some cases the name brand may be more effective, others, the generic. Everyone’s body chemistry is different. It is unfortunate that insurance companies dictate what you can use rather than your doctor and yourself, together.
Larry Curry
About 4 years ago I was going through a divorce, trying to stop smoking (I did) and coping with my mom’s terminal illness and subsequent death. My doctor put me on Wellbutrin XL 300 and I did very well. I have become disabled and I am in constant chronic pain. I was put back on Wellbutrin only this time I had to take the generic form. I knew something was wrong. I have feelings of hopelessness, I have trouble sleeping, have gained weight and have honestly thought that life this way isn’t worth living. I can’t afford to pay for the non-generic form out of pocket but I will discuss options with my physician.
VA
I’m a pharmacist in NC and was intrigued by your article. I have never had a problem dispensing, recommending, or taking generics until recently. When my own prescription for Zoloft “went generic”, I was happy to lose the higher copay, even though I’d responded well to the brand name product. After all, the FDA says the generic is the same, right? But within 2 months, I was again suffering symptoms of depression.
I asked my doctor for a “brand name only” rx for Zoloft and switched back to the original product. Within 2 weeks, I felt like myself again. Since then, I’ve had several patients complain of similar or worse experiences on the generic version of Zoloft, each of whom improved quickly after returning to the brand name product.
I’ve not heard of any problems with my patients regarding generic Wellbutrin, but I’m going to be watching carefully from now on! And as for NTI drugs like warfarin, levothyroxine, lithium, or phenytoin, I don’t switch those without consulting both the patient the doctor.
Laurie
I take, (well, took), Ambien every so often for insomnia. When I got my latest prescription from my doctor, the pharmacy filled it generic. The generic form does NOT help me fall asleep or stay asleep at all. It’s as if I don’t take it. I’m very disappointed with the generic brand.
ahb
Since Blue Cross Blue Shield and Medicare changed my Synthroid to the generic drug L-Thyroxine Tab 175mcg 175, I have gained 45 pounds. I exercise daily and do not eat any fried foods, but my weight stays.
DLB
I have been taking Ultram for over 5 years for moderate to severe spinal pain. The last generic that my insurance’s pharmacy sent me seems not to be working. Since taking the newer generic brand, my pain has increased. It took me a while to figure out why my pain was increasing and the medication stopped working.
Miri
Generic antidepressants did not work for me at all, thought it was all in my mind, had to switch back to paxil….
HT
I have taken ProAmatine (brand) for low blood pressure, hypotension. I have taken this for about 5 years and it REALLY helped me!! I no longer felt like I would pass out. The pharmacist then changed me to generic, Midodrine. I felt like I was going to pass out for about four days. During the 4 days, I thought it was just a “spell” and eventually decided it may have been the medicine. It really made me feel like I was going to fall over. I then went back to the brand and felt so much better! This would be considered a type of blood pressure medicine so be careful!
BM-P
I was taking the generic for Wellbutrin SR. The doctor switched me to Wellbutrin XL, non-generic. It never worked for me, and I’m referring to the brand name form. So the doc and I agreed to put me back on Wellbutrin SR generic. It works well for me. Have had other problems too, but again with the brand name scripts. Zoloft, for example, worked for 2 yrs then nothing, also the other major brand name antidepressant (whose name I can’t recall right now) worked for a year, then its effects stopped.
I’m afraid to try any of the newer drugs, as they may only work a short period of time before they don’t work on me any longer.
Arnell Brown
There was a time when I was taking a drug called Centametadine, the generic for Tagamet. Every time I took it I got sick. I felt flushed and light-headed. I also got to the point where I was throwing up after taking the drug. I went to my doctor who then wrote brand name only for my pharmacist. The same thing happens to me now when I try to substitute Isopril for Altace.
MS
Zoloft made a huge difference with my 80+ year-old mother. It decreased her anxiety level, and stopped her constant nightmares. She was switched to a generic (Sertraline), but after 4 weeks I requested the doctor switch her back as she acted like she was taking a sugar pill. After resuming Zoloft, the nightmares stopped. Her anxiety level isn’t quite as good as before, but has shown a marked improvement.
NC
I have severe hypertension – which multiple medication, diet and exercise did not control. My doctor prescribed Toprol XL about 2 years ago. My blood pressure went to 100/80 and I only had to take one tablet once a day. A few months ago, my pharmacy changed my prescription to generic. My blood pressure started rising and I started feeling ill. I was again placed on multiple blood pressure medications. After looking over the past history to see what had changed – the only thing was the generic (Metropolol Succinate ER). I asked my doctor and pharmacy to put me back on Toprol XL and I can already see and feel the results. You may want to check out the generic on this medication also. Thank you.
R.B.
Due to the overwhelming cost difference between my prescribed Ortho-Cyclen birth control tablets I had been taking for 2 years (for post-surgery hormonal issues) & the generic substitute Sprintec 28 (NORGESTIMATE & ETHINYL ESTRADIOL) – I chose the the generic. Within the 1st 6 months, I noticed quite a few negative side effects – weight gain/increased appetite being the main one (have gained appx. 40 pounds total), & hormone-related headaches around the last few tablets pre-placebo.
Due to another costly medication I take for the same (hormonal) reason, I have not switched back to the Ortho-Cyclen. I definitely could/can tell a difference between the two drugs (generic & non). It is a shame that the generic substitutes are *pushed* when they are available to the public, & it’s awful that simultaneously the non-generic prices jump to 3 times the previous insurance-covered cost (*my experience*). This is an FYI to anyone else that might have similar issues.
ABB
I have been practicing medicine for almost 30 years and have noted at least 2 antianxiety generics which are woefully ineffective c/w the brand name: diazepam and clonazepam. Valium and Klonopin are clearly more effective than their generic counterparts.
sab
I am a pharmacist and have heard numerous complaints about generics. My suggestion to the public is:
1. When the doctor writes your prescription, look at it and see if he signed his name under substitution allowed or brand name only. Look at it at the doctor’s office right after he hands it to you. Not when you get in the car headed to pharmacy.
2. When you go to your doctor’s visit take a copy of your fomulary of drugs which you receive from your insurance company, usually at the first of the year (should get a copy of it before old year is over). Look it over thoroughly, insurances do change what they will cover from year to year.
3. If your doctor doesn’t want to write for brand name only and/or insurance doesn’t want to pay for it, be prepared to pay the higher copay. Pharmacists can’t squeeze money out of a turnip.
4. Make sure you have your current insurance card with you when you go to the pharmacy and if it is a new card make sure you tell the pharmacist so the info can be changed in the computer system BEFORE they start to fill your prescription.
5. Allow the pharmacist ample time to fill prescriptions. (One hour is minimun, especially at the first of the year.) You don’t know how many prescriptions are ahead of yours.
6. The patient is their best advocate. The patient knows how he or she feels. Learn the names of your medicines and why the doctor is giving them to you. Bookstores, libraries, internet are a wealth of information. Pharmacists and doctors have information to give patients, but we seem to be in a factory mode with so many people needing to be seen. Just telling it like it is.
Most people in the medical field want the best for the patient, but it is overwhelming. A good setting would be a quiet private setting where the pharmacist could go over the complete medicine profile with the patient and discuss each medicine and what the pills look like, what they do, what possible side effects are, and drug-food, drug-drug interactions, what the intended results of the medicine are supposed to be, smoking-drug interactions, etc.
Pat
When I was forced to switch from Glucophage to Metformin by my insurance company, I found that my blood sugars were higher. I was taking two Glucophage pills a day. I now have to take 4 Metformin and my sugars still run higher than they did when I was on the Glucophage. I find this very frustrating as I have to put more drugs in my system and still not have the readings that I previously had with the Glucophage.
Marc T
I used to be a strong believer in generics, until I developed a chronic pain condition.
I had been taking a branded 10 MG Oxycodone CR formulation from Watson for several months, along with 15 MG MSIR from Roxane with great results. A change to generics (Teva for the Oxy, Glenmark for the MSIR) and it was very ineffective in comparison. I have nothing good to say about Teva. I have nothing good to say about Glenmark. Even the difference between generics is substantial.
Now I can believe that some generic manufacturers are fine. I can believe that some people do fine with some generics. Here’s an idea…make ALL “generics” be called by the equivalent of a brand name. I know that (at least in my case) the Roxane brand of MSIR is far superior to the Glenmark brand, yet both are “generics” as far as the insurance companies go, and both are relatively cheap. I would gladly buy the Roxane brand, even if insurance did not cover it, but I cannot even order it from any pharmacies around here. I find it hard to believe that this would be that hard, it would keep costs down, and if the product was truly inferior, then the market would not allow it to survive. The problem is that there is little/no choice even among generics!!
If you had a choice between two generics at approximately the same cost and dosage, and one of them worked much better for you, which one would you choose???
Is this not madness??
S.S.
I have been taking fluoxetine since it first came out (18+ yrs). When the generic became available I began taking it and have had no problems. Just recently my pharmacy refilled my script with a generic made by a different manufacturer (Barr Laboratories, Pliva 648). For 3 weeks I was extremely depressed. I called my pharmacy to see if I could get the other generic (Mallinckrodt Pharmaceuticals M0663) and was told there is no difference. The pharmacist went so far as to say “it was in my head and I might be depressed because of the Christmas season.” I explained I am Buddhist and don’t celebrate Christmas. And, the depression only came back after taking the fluoxetine manufacturered by Barr Laboratories.
Only after much discussion about things I considered totally irrelevant did the pharmacist agree to order the Mallinckrodt Pharmaceuticals M0663. A few weeks have gone by and my Mallinckrodt Pharmaceuticals M0663 is working fine (like it has for years).
I can tell you from first-hand experience, there is a BIG difference in generic fluoxetine manufacturered by different pharmaceutical companies. The moral of this story is … when you know something is not working, be persistent. I would be curious to know if other people have had this experience too.
mk
My frail elderly aunt has successfully been on Coreg for at least 8 years for congestive heart failure. After reading an article in the NJ Star Ledger today 12/27 by Naomi Wax regarding her own issues with antidepressives and generics (she noted this website in the article) I reviewed the last 2 medicare statements and sure enough… instead of the Coreg about 6 weeks ago my aunt was switched to the newly approved generic Cardiveral (sp?)…..
Recently she has required oxygen continuously and any exertion is taxing.. Is there a connection??? I am hopeful that my request to the doctor tomorrow will enable her to go back to Coreg to see if her condition improves… She is 99 years young, with all mental abilities intact…
I plan to demand that she return to Coreg whatever needs to be done!
Joe D
I will try to make this short & to the point… There are some very bad pills being sold & they are the oval generic Oxycontin = Oxycodone! Beware of all generic pills, especially the ones that I just mentioned & have personally tested (from a company called TEVA)… They turn into a slimy toxic gel which doesnt dissolve properly, if at all. The namebrand seems to dissolve in a chalky like state like they are supposed to and they are safe! It is the generic filler and crap that is being bought from mainly India & China and a couple of other places that are not being properly inspected, if at all!
If you know anyone who is taking this crap then please tell them to stop immediately. The symptoms from this poison will have you profusely hiccupping at first & then you will find it hard to eat & keep down food… and eventually you will be constantly vomitting.
I am in RI & my friend’s brother-in-law had the same symptoms while taking the same thing & he lives in Maine! I have been diagnosed with esophageal cancer… If not from these pills then I do believe that they at least contributed to it… at the least they did get me very very sick!
Please spread the word to everyone you know… THIS IS NO JOKE!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/16/AR2007061601295.html
Inspections have gone down every year & most places are not even being Inspected!
Cj
I have experienced dizziness, nausea and heart palpatations since my pharmacy switched me from Norvasc to generic. I never had a problem with Norvasc but this generic is bad news!
Jenna
I thought I was losing my mind. I was on the branded version for years and never had a problem then once I started taking the generic, I experienced debilitating headaches and anxiety for no apparent reason. I didn’t even think about it being the change I thought I was just getting older or my body was changing, stress, etc. My husband was the one who made the connection. I might not have otherwise.
I actually had to discontinue use of my therapy as a result. I was too low functioning to be at work. I have tried several others since and to no avail. Some helped minorly, but nothing kept me as even as wellbutrin…when it was wellbutrin. I don’t know what to do either. I’ve been a shell of the high functioning former self that I was…which in turn furthers my depressiona nd anxiety. VICIOUS cycle.
My Rx plan wont pay for the branded either. Anyone else have any suggestions rather than caughing up over $200/month which I do not have. (shoot, I can barely afford my neccessities). Any help, would be greatly appreciated.
My close friend thought I should petition my insurance company, but I have a feeling this would be an exercise in futility that I simply dont have the time for. Thank you. …It’s also good to know others have experienced the same thing and that I wasn’t going crazy. ;)
sbs
I have been using Ambien off and and on for years with no problem. I have now taken a few versions of the generic. The white football-shaped ones seemed okay, but now the pharmacy gave me tiny pink ones. They are horrible–takes forever to get to sleep, gives me nightmares and I wake up every morning hungover. I am self-insured so I can get whatever I want. Even though the high price of Ambien is a hardship, I am switching back.
C J W
I’m thrilled I found this website. I wondered if my reaction to generic Ambien was just me. I took the ‘real’ Ambien for more years than I can remember for my rheumatoid arthritis. 1/2 of the 10 mg pill usually gave me 6+ hours of restful uninterrupted sleep. Since I was switched to the generic a whole 10 mg pill only gives me maybe 4 hours of sleep, but this sleep is accompanied by really terrifyingly graphic, bloody, & violent nightmares. When I wake from these hair-raising nightmares, I am usually unable to return to sleep for 1 to 2 hours, if at all. The next morning I feel groggy until I’ve over-consumed caffeine (which makes me jittery), and I never feel completely rested. I intend to share these postings with my doctor & insist that I be prescribed the REAL Ambien from now on. I dont think any $$$ savings are worth the difficulties that arise with this generic. Besides, if 1/2 of an Ambien works better than a whole generic, the difference in price surely isn’t that important. Why isn’t the FDA doing its job?
Laura
My son is on the autistic spectrum, and he currently takes trileptal brand name in the evening for his severe sensory processing disorder. This past year after what took almost 3-4 years of treatment and different drug regimens, and changes he was placed on trileptal and we finally have seen success.
Three weeks ago he switched to the brand name oxycarbezapine. Initially i didnt pay too much attention, but his symptoms all came back full blown, and now he has new ones which he didnt have, and i attribute it to the change in brands since it is the only thing that has changed in his regimen. Not to mention he also started wheezing and has been having asthma because the switch also has a yellow dye. so i think insurance companies need to stop making these life-altering decisions without the consent of the patient or parent.
jane h.
I am not sure what is going on–for 2 years I took carvedilol generic from Canada, 3.125 twice a day, supposedly made in the UK. On 11/15/07 I switched over to carvedilol from Walmart–there were blue pills and white pills in the same container, supposedly all 3.125. Turns out they were both 3.125 AND 6.2 in the same bottle .
I am very sensitive to betas and the overdose brought on sypmtoms of heart failure–fluid in lungs, problems climbing stairs, heaviness in chest. After about 2 weeks I called Walmart and asked about the colors, since i couldn’t think of any other factor, found out the mistake, and they supplied more, supposed to be the 3.125 but I still am symptomatic, though slightly less so.
I am now wondering if others have had problems with the generics from Walmart, and thinking maybe I have to go back to Canada. the Walmart price is great, but the symptoms suck.
D.D.C. in Charlotte
Hallelujah! I’m NOT crazy. As I read an article re: the generic drug, bupropion XL ineffectiveness, I felt vindicated. I, too, had been switched from Wellbutrin XL 3oo mg to the generic but didn’t attribute it to the return of my symptoms. I mentioned it to my Dr. who suggested and prescribed a “booster!” I didn’t want another medication to boost one that had been working just fine.
I started putting my symptoms together with the time of the switch, December 2006, and realized that had to be the reason. (It was not a Merry Christmas nor has it been a very Happy 2007.) I called the Dr., requested a script for the Wellbutrin, and when asked why, I said the generic just wasn’t working.
If the generic is such a widespread problem, why isn’t this information getting to the doctors? Is ANYONE doing well with the generic?
Pat
I was on Synthroid for hypothyroidism and was doing well. My insurance co. switched me to LThyroxin and after awhile I began to experience all of the symptoms I had before I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism. I was tired, I had no energy, I could hardly get out of bed, my skin was dry, my hair was falling out, but no one would listen to me. They kept telling me I was depressed.
I finally got put back on the Synthroid and after 2-1/2 months I feel like a new person. I get up in the morning and stay up. I am getting my house back in order, I am getting things done and going out again. When will these people learn that we are the ones living in our bodies and we know how we feel.
PM
I have taken Wellbutrin 300XL for several years off and on. I recently attempted to come off the drug but had to go back on when my symptoms gradually returned. My insurance company sent me the generic bupropion. This is the first time for me that a generic drug has completely failed. I am not suicidal but if I had to continue taking this awful medication, I would be dead now. It caused extreme agitation especially when I tried to sleep. I would wake up in a panic. This is not the same as Wellbutrin and I consider it a dangerous substitution. My doctor wrote me a new prescription adding that is was ‘brand necessary’ and I’m back to feeling well again.
Jane .
Just wanted to let you know that 9 raisins in gin works for restless leg syndrome. I have had RLS since childhood, have not had one occurrence since I started taking the gin-soaked raisins a few months ago. Thanks for all that you do.
JC
After reading the comments re: generic Ambien (zolpidem), I have experienced many of the same symptoms reported by others. As a sleep aid it DOES NOT WORK AT ALL!! Problems are: increased anxiety, hallucinations, nightmares, awake every 2 hours or more and inability to fall back asleep once awake. The problems were so severe that I was hospitalized (weight loss) because of extreme concern re: the hallucinations and anxiety produced by this drug.
David Welsh
I had been taking 1000 mg Glucophage for blood glucose control for many years. My pharmacy substituted the generic Metformin HCL.
After taking the Metformin for about 1 month I started to suffer from continuous diarrhea. I have now since discontinued its use; my sugar levels are not as well controlled, but the stomach problems have been alleviated.
Has anyone else on this site suffered as I have?
Leslie
My doctor gave me a week supply of Wellbutrin XL 150 mg to start with and then wrote me a script for 300 mg. My pharmacy prescribed me the generic Budeprion and I didn’t think anything of it.
About 4 days after starting to take the generic I started itching all over my body and broke out in rashes. I had to take Benadryl just to stop the itching. My doctor said that she found it rare that I didn’t break out while taking the Wellbutrin 150 mg but did when I was taking the Budeprion 300 mg. She wanted me to stop taking it for a week to see if the rash would go away. She thought that it had to be something else causing the rash since I didn’t break out with the 150, but didn’t want me to take a chance.
Not wanting to stop taking it, because it was helping so much with my depression, I kept taking the generic and taking Benadryl with it. After about 2 weeks I noticed that the Budeprion wasn’t working anymore. My depression, anger and agitation is back just like it was before I started the medication.
After reading all the horror stories about the generic Budeprion I asked my pharmacy to switch me to the name brand Wellbutrin XL. I’m hoping that not only will my depression go away, but that my rash will go away also. I will update you in a fews days to let you know what happens. Wish me luck!
Gina M.
My insurer switched me from Glucophage (a diabetic drug) to the generic metformin. I experienced increasingly severe gastrointestinal problems. My internist told me to stop taking the metformin and the symptoms cleared up. My insurer refused to authorize the brand name even with the doctor’s note. Fortunately I am able to get the brand name from Canada, although they do not cover the timed release version. I take other generics with no problems, although I wonder sometimes if they are working, especially the Zocor generic.
Suzy
Several years ago my husband was taking Vasotec for hypertension. It worked perfectly, but since he gets his meds through the VA, they switched him to a generic. We practically had to go through congress to get the VA to give him the name brand. Years later and many meds later, we are still proactive when he cannot use a generic and needs a name brand. I wonder how other vets, those who cannot fight for themselves or who suffer from PTSD, manage to wade through the VA nightmare for the proper meds.
Joe D
URGENT! If you know any-1 who is taking the generic brand of Oxycontin have them STOP IMMEDIATELY!!! It is called Oxycodone & I think that it might be just from the company TEVA… regardless of that just insist that you get the name brand only & if you can’t because of coverage (like in my case) then please listen carefully & follow my instructions…
After getting sick to the point of constantly vomitting and not being able to eat… I took it upon myself to try and figure out why? After analyzing everything that had changed in my life at about the time when I started to get sick I thought of things like: change in pharmacy, change in my coverage which led me to think of the change of pills from name brand to generic!
I remembered a special I had seen on a news show about the quality of generic drugs getting worse every year and less & less inspections being done!–> which led me to google about the subject & then brought me to find this great site!
The story I read from Joe & Terry and Marc Kaufman from the Washington Post had always stuck in my mind—> So I took some of my pills & started to do a test of my own… I took a generic pill & put it in a cup of water & then in a seperate cup I put the name brand in… after only a day I could see the difference & then after a few days the results just totally stunned me! The name brand started to dissolve in a chalky like state (which it is supposed to do) but the generic turned into a slimy gel which wasn’t dissolving!!!
Immediately I thought of the stuff that was sliding up & down my throat as I was sleeping… which I thought was just GERD at the time–but once I’d seen it in the cup I definately knew that something was unnaturally wrong! It felt like it was alive in my throat… So I stopped taking it and stuck just to the name brand which luckily my coverage still covered the 20mg size!
After 3 days I started to get my appetite back and the vomitting decreased immensely… So just to make sure I took 1 more of the generic toxic slime and I was vomitting w/in a hour or two!
I showed my doctor my pill test and she was stunned to see the gel-like slime… she poked it w/a tongue depressor and said “this doesnt look natural”. I asked if she’d had any other complaints and she said no… but I said that how would people know unless they did their own test like I did? We all assume just as my doctor did that our pills are safe & they wouldnt sell us anything bad. Guess what… just as with the poisonous spinach, lettuce, chili, toys..etc., we were wrong!
If this wasn’t enough evidence to convince you then when I tell you that my friend’s brother in-law has the same symptoms & is taking the same medicine maybe that will show you that this is NO COINCIDENCE! Especially when he lives in Maine & I am in RI! He would still be taking it if I hadn’t done my test & told my friend to spread the word… Hopefully I saved him from what I have been diagnosed with… which is esophageal cancer!
I am trying to find the best doctors possible right now although time is working against me…They wanted to rush me into radiation/chemo w/a new drug and to be part of a study… Although it might be the best thing to save my life I just had to cancel for now until I get at least another opinion or two…
PLEASE spread the word of my story so we can try to get this garbage off of the market!
ZWW
I like so many on here had been taking Wellbutrin XL 300mg for some time. Then almost a year ago my insurance insisted upon the generic Budeprion XL 300mg (manufactured by TEVA). At first I didn’t notice much but after a month I noticed things weren’t the same… I didn’t feel like I used to and I seriously questioned the efficacy of the generic.
Then I had a talk with my close friend recently who had also been switched to the generic form and she was doing far worse than I had been. Since switching to the generic she suffered shakiness, restlessness, and an overall sense of being un-easy.
Then I found out in October Consumerlab.com called into question the efficacy of generic Wellbutrin, and in particular the form manufactured by TEVA. When will insurance companies listen to us? Yes I can get the name brand, but for hundreds more.
FDA approval cannot always guarantee a product is safe and or equivalent. When do they plan on getting back to us? Last I read they “cannot offer specifics at this time.” Is it really so hard for them to accept in the history of US pharmaceuticals they made a mistake and the generic really doesn’t perform as well as the name brand?
Stacy Behnke
I started having ADD & depression symptoms return 2 months ago. I finally realized that was the same time I switched pharmacies. My pharmacy gave a different generic for Wellbutrin XL. It is Budeprion XL. I never had problems with generic before. Because of my confusion I almost accidentally overdosed my daughter on her antibiotic. Luckily, my husband was there to catch me. How many people are they going to put at risk for a few bucks before they pull this drug??? It does NOT work! Somebody needs to do something!
AMW
Generic Oxycontin by TEVA. Just 2 days ago I had my prescripton of Oxycontin. It was the first time I received a generic drug in its place. I immediately noticed it’s not helping with the pain. I usually take 2 tablets a day but today the pain has gotten so bad I took one, nothing happened, so I took another one, still in pain, so two hours later I took another one and still it’s not helping. I plan on calling my doctor tomorrow and telling him this. I figure he’s going to think I’m crazy so I thought I’d check on the Internet to see if anyone else has had this problem. It’s nice to see I’m not alone! I’m so glad this site is here.
PJ
Like many of the previous posters I too was thinking I was just imagining that I wasn’t responding to the generic form. Ever since I was moved to the generic because insurance didn’t cover the brand, I have been experiencing relapses of depression. I haven’t been able to recover, as it’s too expensive to pay out of pocket for the working one.
When I try the generic I get raging headaches, and I feel suicidal at times (which never happened after I adjusted to the brand). I am so happy I saw this site, and I do hope the FDA does investigate the drug as I am another American suffering due to the availability of this generic (without it, the brand name would be covered). I just hope my insurance decides to cover the name brand so I can escape from this agony.
CMR
My experience was with Wellbutrin 300 XL. After my insurance company switched me to the generic form of this medicine, my spirits declined dramatically, and as others have stated, I felt as though I wasn’t taking any medication at all. I felt great despair.
It wasn’t until I read comments about this from others in your column that I realized what the reason might be. I obtained a prescrition for the brand name, agreeing to pay a much higher price through my insurance company. Within two days of returning to the brand, I felt great again.
I take another generic antidepressant and have not had a bit of trouble with it, so I never expected to have a problem with Budeprion. It is a useless medicine as far as I am concerned and I hope the FDA pulls it soon so others don’t go through what we all have.
Thanks for the forum to express my experience.
RM
I had been taking Toprol XL for six years with no problems. When the generic (metaprolol succinate) came out, I was switched to that. All was well for a while, then my BP shot way up, I started having dizziness & numbness on the left side of the face. I also had difficulty breathing and anxiety. The symptom that scared me the most, though, was I would be ok, then the next minute my whole head would go numb, like I was high on something.
The pharmacist told me that she has heard a ton of complaints about Metaprolol Succinate and that it is not the same as Toprol XL. She stated that Toprol XL is a time-release formula & Metaprolol Succinate is not.
I had my cardiologist switch me back and started feeling better right away. By the second day my BP was back to normal.
I am copying & pasting into wordpad the problems that others are having. Then I’m emailing it to everyone I know & asking them to forward it to all their friends. If other people do the same thing, maybe we can get this dangerous drug taken off the market.
Andrew C.
My insurance company changed my prescription from Bupropion to Budeprion. I felt miserable almost immediately. I was irritable; had the jitters; shakes; could not sleep, and felt worse than I had in years. The worst part was the anxiety!
In my opinion Budeprion needs to be pulled; at least re-labeled as a drug that makes happy people sad. I dropped the pill after 10 days of hell; and actually began feeling better within 24 hours. Taking nothing is not good for me; but is so much better than taking Budeprion!
CD
I HAVE BEEN ON GENERIC LOPRESSOR FOR 2 YEARS, BY THE COMPANY CARAC, AND WAS DOING FINE. I WENT TO GET A REFILL AND WITHOUT MY PHARMACY TELLING ME THEY SWITCHED COMPANIES TO SANDOV (I QUESTIONED THEM BECAUSE THE PILLS WERE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SHAPE). THE PHARMACY TOLD ME IT WAS “THE SAME THING”.
AFTER TAKING THEM FOR 3-5 DAYS, MY BLOOD PRESSURE WENT UP TO 140/94. IT WAS 120/78 WITH THE OTHER GENERIC BRAND. I ALSO FELT MY HEART BEATING RAPIDLY DURING THE DAY FOR NO REASON.
I ASSUME THEY ARE NOT THE SAME! I AM GOING BACK TO THE DOCTOR TO ASK HIM TO WRITE A PRESCRIPTION FOR NAME BRAND SINCE MY PHARMACY SAID THEY WILL NO LONGER SUPPLY THE OTHER GENERIC BRAND. HAS ANYONE ELSE HAD THIS PROBLEM WITH THE SANDOV BRAND?
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meb
My husband tried the generic wellbutrin xl and had terrible results. He had to switch back to the brand name version; however, that is a $50 a month copay through insurance. Very expensive. We need a generic drug of wellbutrin xl that works!
Bob G.
Geez! Am I glad that I found this site and learned that I am not imagining my difficulties. Since my last scrip refill my depressed state has largely returned along with a short temper, anxiety, and lethargy, also accompanied by some very painful and distressing stomach and digestive problems. I thought I had developed an ulcer, and I’m in the process of being worked up for that problem right now.
I finally discovered that when my most recent scrip for Wellbutrin XL was re-filled, my health plan’s mail-order pharmacy substituted (without my knowledge) Bupropion HCL XL (made by ANCHEN). Since their meds come in their own dispensing bottles AND the tablets looked the same as the name brand Wellbutrin, at first I didn’t realize that I had been switched without my knowledge (the tabs are the same size and appearance, only the “smiley” face logo is missing).
Finally learning that many others are experiencing the same problem(s), after being switched, is a tremendous relief. The substitution of unknown generics for the known quality and efficacy of the original meds must NOT be allowed to happen! There is eventually bound to be some very bad consequences from this practice, if there haven’t been already.
Brian
I am just amazed at how many complaints there are about generic Wellbutrin XL 300. I, too, noticed a return in symptoms when I was switched to the TEVA generic. How many depressed people have been switched and later committed suicide? This is a problem of epidemic proportions (due to the vast number of people who are taking wellbutrin for MDD). WHY ISN’T THE FDA TAKING ACTION ON THIS?
LBH
Thank goodness it is not just me!! I have taken Ambien for many years and it has always worked very well. I have never had a problem with going off of it when I was trying to get pregnant, during pregnancy or when I was nursing. However, from the age of 11, I have had horrible problems falling asleep!! I loved Ambien because it made sleepless nights a thing of the past.
When the generic came out, my prescription plan insists that it be used in place of the name brand. I was fine with that until I realized that it really does not work for me. I take 1 and a half pills instead of the 1 I used to take just to fall asleep. I am not an abuser of medication, but now that I am in the “work force” I need to sleep so I do what I must!! This dosage is frowned upon, I know, but what else can I do?? Insurance refuses to give the real Ambien and I need some sleep.
I read the “experts” testimony that the generics are tested more than the name brand and that they are exactly the same, but I know in this case and for me they are not identical. I feel bad in the morning and never feel rested anymore. In addition, I too seem to have little to no memory of the night before (possibly due to the dosage increase). Can the insurance company really MAKE you switch to the generic if it is not working for you?
KK
I took Adderral for several years as a very effective treatment for ADHD. However, immediately upon taking the generic I noticed that my ADHD symptoms returned and I found little to no benefit from the generic. This was especially troubling and potentially dangerous while driving.
The pharmacist said there was no difference between the generic and name brand; however, I can attest to the fact that there was a significant difference between the two.
My insurance company refused to pay for the name brand which forced me to choose between taking a drug that didn’t work and contained who knows what, or paying over $130 a month out of pocket for the name brand.
Charley
I had been taking the drug Wellbutrin XL for depression and it was working well. Then one day I refilled the drug and was given the generic Budeprion. I really never thought about it much. After about a month (it came on so gradually I really did not put 2 and 2 together) I had severe neck pain. I asked my doctor about it and he said he had not seen any side effect with Wellbutrin XL. I guess the pharmacy did not notify him they switched me to a generic so he thought I was still on Wellbutrin XL.
Then months later (the pain in my neck getting so severe I just thought my head would explode) my wife showed me an article in Raleigh’s News and Observer (July story on Wellbutrin) about others complaining about Budeprion and severe neck pain. I switched to Wellbutrin XL and the pain is gone.
I now see that the FDA is conducting an investigation on the generic Wellbutrin XL ie..Budeprion as announced on October 26, 2007. Does anyone have a link to the original story in the Raleigh News and Observer about the side effects of Budeprion? Please post if you do. Also, I now will not take generic drugs. It is obviously not regulated very well.
RJ
Every generic Ambien I’ve tried fails. I compared 10 mg of the old Ambien, before it went off patent, to the newer generic Ambien. Most of these generic Ambien pills are a joke and do not make me sleepy at all. Ambien CR, both versions, knock me out, and fast. These companies manufacturing generic Ambien pills have to be doing something differently in my opinion.
Joshua N.
I am a veteran with PTSD who has been prescribed Ambien for several years with wonderful results after years of crippling bouts of insomnia that would often last for more than two weeks. The VA originally prescribed it in its non-generic form of Zolpidem Tartrate (Ambien). I took it only as needed, and was not addicted to it. It was Ambien–the real thing.
Then I received a generic zolpidem tartrate suddenly. This was all the VA gives out now. Suddenly the pill failed to cause sleep. It is as if there is nothing in it but worthless powder. I complained, but the VA pharmacy treated me like a Zolpidem addict, and told me to talk to my doctor about something else that would work better. The pharmacy did not catch the odd and sudden transition from effective to worthless–or just didn’t believe me. Who knows?
What I do know is that these purple pills are total junk, and I am now paying about $400 to have Ambien and these generics assayed to get an official lab read-out to show the pharmacy. If the generics show no zolpidem tartrate, then I am going to the media with this discovery.
If the VA is so cheap that they do not check their drugs, and give vets non-therapeutic doses then they are criminal. I am extremely angry with the treatment I’ve received from the VA–especially since I am a well-educated man with a sound background in human physiology, chemistry, and biology.
Who knows what other junk they’re giving vets that need real drugs–or a full dosage?
CM Terni
Wow–like many of the people on this site, I had a problem with the generic Wellbutrin XL. I took bupropion, which I was promised was NOT budeprion, the generic that many folks have problems with…
Except it made me nauseated, paranoid, tense, and sleepless for six weeks until my body “adjusted.” And then there were the shaking hands and the jaw clenching… I stuck with it and now am okay, but really… do depressives just deserve to suffer? What the heck?
Judy S. W.
Within one week, 3 of my medications have been switched to generic by Walgreen’s without my permission! The first time, they told me the drug was no longer made. After experiencing increased health issues (I have epilepsy), I contacted the pharmaceutical company, and found out the drug was still being made! I called the pharmacy and was put on hold 3 times. They finally admitted it was available and said I could get it the next day. However, they could not refill my asthma preventative medication because they had a call in to my doctor to get permission to change my medication to a generic for that as well!
After picking up the prescriptions, I noticed the nasal inhaler which helps to keep the nasal polyps in check (as part of triad asthma) was switched to generic with a prominent note that it was not identical to the brand name drug.
Why do drugs stores think they have a right to play around with their customer’s health and wellbeing without permission just to increase profits?
This is appalling, and should be illegal!
Judy
Susan King
I have hypertension and have been well controlled on Toprol and clonodine for years. Recently, my pharmacy switched me to the new generic for Toprol, Metoprolol.
Within a week, I started having severe pounding headaches, particularly when I leaned forward. I began to monitor my BP at home each day and found that it steadily climbed higher and higher over the next week (at its worst- 225/125). And I will admit to trying something not recommended… I doubled the Metoprolol to 200mg WITH NO REDUCTION IN MY BP!!!
Soon thereafter, I went back to the pharmacy and purchased the balance of the Rx as name brand Toprol. Over the next 3-5 days, my blood pressure returned to normal ranges and my positional headaches stopped. I found the experience to be extremely frightening.
rd
I have been taking Toprol XL25for several years.The pharmacy refilled it with the generic metoprolo XL25. It is not the same. I could count my heart beats just sitting down they were so strong. Don’t know what my blood pressure was. I had numbness in my face on the left side on and off for the days I was taking it. I also had chest pains on and off during that time. I am now back on Toprol XL25 and the symptoms have disappeared. I also had shortness of breath, which has also gone away.
tkw
I too have been switched to the generic Wellbutrin XL 300mg. I too have had increased symptoms of depression. It is helpful to know that it is not just me. I will try switching back to the brand and will repost in a few weeks.
Jeff
It’s absolutely amazing to read all of the comments regarding generic Wellbutrin XL!
I have been on 300 XL for a number of years and recently (within the past few months) have been put on the generic equivalent. I have seen a large regression in my mood, increased anxiety, increased feelings of hopelessness, episodes of rage…I said a prayer this morning asking for help because I honestly didn’t have a clue as to what has been going on with me. Not long after, I run across this site. Thank you all for sharing your experiences…I will be calling my Dr. shortly…
Martha Brunstein
When I was switched from Pravachol (which I had taken with good results for several years) to pravastatin sodium – a generic – my LDL and triglycerides doubled in less than six months. My physician, an endocrinologist at Cleveland Clinic, who has treated my genetic cholesteral problem for 20 years, checked out all other possibilities before saying it was the generic drug which caused the difference.
He chose to put me on Vytorin rather than fight the insurance company on using the brand name Pravachol and results were immediate and very positive. My lipid values are back under control as they had been for 20 years on brand name statins. The only reason I have switched from Mevacor to Zocor to Pravachol was because my insurance coverage changed and each had different preferred brands and I wanted to minimize my costs as much as possible
MC
I’ve taken Toprol XL 200 mg for ten years for irregular heartbeats and have been fine. Three months ago it was switched to the generic form and although I had a slight increase in palpitations I continued to use it. Then a week ago the generic form was switched to another generic form and within three days I got continuous pvc’s and rapid heartbeat and my blood pressure went up.
The pharmacy doesn’t want to take the second generic form back nor do they want to order the first generic form for me. I can’t afford the Toprol now that the price went up thanks to the generic form’s now on the market. It took years for me to find something to help my pvc’s and was very satisfied with the Toprol XL. The second generic form was like taking a placebo.
Nat
TEVA Bupropion is BAD NEWS. I started on generic Wellbutrin over two months ago, and the first prescription was made by Watson. I began to feel better each day, after about the second week.
Then when I got my prescription refilled, I was given the TEVA Bupropion. I ignored the repulsive odor of the pill, and assumed that it would be just as good as the Watson stuff. HA! Within two days, I had a throbbing headache that would come and go several times a day. I was also sick to my stomach constantly, and was very tired. The worst part was that I became very moody and irritable, to the point where it began affecting all aspects of my life. I started treating my boyfriend like crap, and finding all sorts of reasons to argue with him and start crying.
Everything started to seem hopeless and terrible again, and I just wanted to crawl into a hole most of the time. It was like I completely lost control of my emotions and my life! This was all within a few weeks!!!
Two weekends ago I wound up going to the hospital because I began having serious thoughts of suicide and it terrified me. I have since been switched back to the Watson brand, with Celexa added to it–and guess what? I’m already starting to feel better.
That TEVA stuff is a total nightmare, and those people ought to be ashamed of themselves for putting out such crap–and potentially DANGEROUS crap at that! I felt worse on that stuff than I did before going on antidepressants. And at least when I was down, I wasn’t being mean to anyone. This stuff made me seriously down AND mean. Yuck.
Avoid this drug like the plague. I don’t normally try to tell people what to do, but in this case I feel that I have to!!! I wouldn’t wish this on anyone. It was like living in a nightmare, and now I’m trying my best to repair all my relationships that were damaged while I was on this garbage.
CMC
I was on Celexa for depression for about 5 years. I was switched to the generic version and spiraled downhill immediately. I also felt that the generic was adding unwanted water weight/retention.
I was so distressed and asked to be switched to Zoloft because I had great success with it when I first started meds. Of course they gave me the generic version & I experienced the same problems–absolutely no relief of my symptoms & weight gain.
FINALLY, I had my doctor switch me back to Celexa (non-generic) and have to pay the extra cost that insurance doesn’t cover. Annoying and unfair that I have to incur this extra cost each month but I guess it is indeed worth it in regard to my emotional health & wellbeing.
cb
I was given the generic synthroid and that is when the problems started: shortness of breath, itching, heart palpitations and feeling like I was in a fog. I don’t care what anyone says, generics are not bioequivalent; even my doctor agreed. I now take Armour and I pay for it myself, because it is a lot cheaper than when my insurance paid for my generic thyroid. Generics should be taken off the market.
Donna Sanchez
Like most reports, our insurance, forced us to accept generic when available. I take Zoloft and Toprol xl. About 3 weeks into the generic meds I woke up in the middle of the night with shrills of burning sensations from my waist to my head accompanied by anxiety/panic attacks every 20-30 minutes. I was clueless. Went to the doc and they just switched me to effexor, which by the way does not work for anxiety/panic disorder, and I wanted to die, I really thought I was losing my mind!
Symptoms multiplied, so I went back on generic zoloft. Seemed like the drug worked to a point and then wore off. They then gave me xanax to carry over.
The next week there was a blood drive at work and I went to donate. To my suprise my blood pressure was 215/105–my generic toprol was the reason.
My insurance company said if I do mail order they will give me name brand as long as the doctor puts medically necessary on every prescription.
Are our insurance companies along with pharmaceutical companies making a killing (literaly) at the expense of our lives? We have to put an end to generic or force these drug companies to comply. But they lie for each other and their rich and were sick and dying, committing suicide because of the negative effect these generic drugs have on us. Where to turn for help???????
Jeanne R. Lunsford
I am a chronic migraineur since 12 y.o. (now 57). I am unable to find Midrin or even a generic brand amidrine. I have had a backorder for amidrine for 4 weeks. Any suggestions?
DPC
I began taking Simvastatin in early May 2007 and initially had some muscle cramps, but they stopped after a few weeks. On July 23, 2007 the vision in my right eye suddenly went very blurry. It was as if I was trying to see underwater. I have 20/20 vision so this was very freightening. After about 15 minutes it began to clear but never fully recovered. This continued on and off for a few days so I scheduled an appointment for a thorough eye exam.
The doctor found no problems with my eyes and thought it might be a migraine with aura. I had never had a migraine so I thought that was unusual. Over the next 10 days I continued to have vision problems sometimes in the left eye, sometimes in the right and I began to be bothered by the light. I also started to have severe headaches on a regular basis. The doctor scheduled an MRI of my brain and the results came back showing that I had had migraines. The only thing that had changed in my routine was the Simvastatin so I stopped taking it.
I had the severe headache for the first two days after stopping and then the headaches gradually stopped. I am however left with the vision problem. It is markedly improved but I am still very aware that my right eye is never quite right. It has been 3 months since I stopped and I have not gone back on any medication. At this point I believe I am left with a permanant vision problem.
Arlene Gill
I have been on Oxycontin for a chronic back problem for several years. When I moved and went to a new pharmacy, I was given the generic form. It is supposed to be long-acting; the generic form gave little relief and only lasted about three hours (instead of 12). The pharmacist argued with me and insisted that was not possible, but, believe me, it is! When I got the brand name, it worked just fine.
J. L.
Add one more to the group. After nearly 8 years of success with Wellbutrin XL 300 mg, I was switched to the generic Budeprion XL 300 MG from TEVA. I now recall the pharmacist proudly telling me she switched me to the generic to save me $10 a month, and I never really thought anything of it. What I wouldn’t give to have that moment back. I had a few serious sources of stress in my life at the time, and figured my nosedive was a result of those. It was hard to understand why now, after all these years, I was back in the position of being depressed, having lost my confidence and sense of self-worth, withdrawing, and making self-sabotaging decisions. I never even thought it was the medicine, and by chance I caught a news story about it, and found my way here. The relief of learning this isn’t my fault is enormous. I don’t know if I can repair some of the situations I’ve ruined because of how I’ve been feeling lately. This drug should not even be an option for people, it should be removed from the market.
srm
I had two bad experiences with generic meds. I was doing well on Synthroid for hypothyroidism when insurance said I had to go generic. Shortly after I broke out in hives on my right side up and down my body. After having a dermotoligist run various tests, etc, it was determinded it was the generic formulation of Synthroid that was causing the reaction. My doctor had to write MUST BE BRAND NAME: GENERIC CAUSES RASH on all my scripts thereafter.
Also as a diabetes patient, I was taking Glucophage when, again, I was ordered by insurance to go generic. Again, I broke out all over my face. Back to the dermotologist. Result: MUST HAVE BRAND NAME…. I’m convinced now that generics are not created equal.
Don
My doctor had me on Zocor for over 3 years. I have lost strength in my arms and hands. He immediatly took me off the Zocor and sent me to a neurologist who said he thinks I have Inclusion Body Myositis which could have been brought on by the statins in the Zocor.
ew
I was switched to generic Paxil (manufactured by Apotex) and became violently ill within 24 hours. Nausea, extreme diarrhea, fatigue. I contacted the pharmacy and was told that this particular formulation of generic paxil had been a problem. (White pills vs. pink generics by a different manufacturer.)
The symptoms abated within 2 days of being on the brand name drug. I think there should be a specific warning on all generics where there is a chance that the side effects (aside from the long list of Paxil brand name side effects) for the generic might be this dramatic.
Dave A
I have been on generic Zoloft since it was released, and I can say that it is not the same. I am very cheap and never pay more than I have to, but I am going to see my doctor in the next few weeks so I can try the brand label again.
I will let you know how it works out.
mb
I have taken ambien for several years; I usually get by with 5 mg/night. My trouble isn’t staying asleep, it’s getting to sleep at all. Ambien gets me down quickly, I get restful, dream-filled sleep, and it leaves very politely–no hang-over.
I’ve never suffered from “sleep-eating” as has been reported, but soon after I started taking it I realized I’d get really hungry and crave a snack about 20-30 minutes after taking it. That was controllable and a minor, recognizable side effect. I also alternate taking Ambien with other sleep aids or with no drugs at all.
Then the generic became available, which I lauded at first. After taking the generic for only a few days, I noticed a complete difference.
1. Whereas Ambien acts within 20 minutes, the generic takes an hour, if it acts at all.
2. Whereas I only need 5 mg of Ambien I need 10 of the generic.
3. The generic causes me to have incredible “sleep eating”–I wake up in the morning in bed cradling an empty box of cheeze-its or bowl that once had popcorn, with crushed-up snacks sprinkled throughout the sheets. This was so intense that one night I made popcorn in my sleep and set the timer for I don’t know how many minutes–I was living in a FEMA trailer and thank god for smoke alarms and my terrier puppy–we all would have died from the chemical smoke and flames spewing from the microwave if they both hadn’t sounded the alarms. That was the last time I took the generic.
4. The generic doesn’t leave my body nicely at all, it lingers and gives me the same drug hangover that all the others did before Ambien came along.
My doctor’s nurse expressed real surprise that I would have these different responses to the two drugs, saying that no one has reported any differences. Well, I am reporting differences! I’m asthmatic and am very familiar with taking prescription drugs. A generic albuterol inhaler has a different taste than Ventolin, but it works the same. Prednisone is prednisone.
But the generic Ambien isn’t Ambien at all, it’s something completely different. It’s a really dangerous comparison and the sleep-eating thing is really scary, plus the after-effects are contrary to the whole point of taking Ambien–I could just take diazepam and be in the same stupid fog all day.
Thanks for this site–I read about this in the paper and needed to share it with someone.
Philip R. Woolman
I did not suffer illness for more than 40 years of my life. I never had the flu and did not get colds when everyone else was lying around red nosed and complaining. My annual physical reports were always good.
In September of 2005 blood test showed that I was diabetic, and the doctor put me on a drug called Avandia. As a result of the diabetes I began to suffer energy problems. The 120 steps I climbed eight times daily began to wear me out. I would pant half way to the top and began to rest during and after the climb. Doc told me that there was no indication that I had any heart disease, and that I could no longer eat my daily garlic clove, as it was a wives tale without merit and could interact with my perscription. Three weeks later I had a heart attack and two stints were placed. I guess I should have stopped eating the garlic earlier.
I was immediately placed on a cholesterol-lowering drug called Lipitor. My body (everything) began to hurt to the point I could not work. I felt like I was swimming in mud and was in constant pain. During a doctor’s visit I told the physician that I stopped taking the drug and began feeling better. He became irate and told me that he could not be my doctor if I was intent on suicidally contradicting his orders. I kept with the Liptor and began testing for various other diseases including ALS.
I became so ill that I was bedridden for over one week. I did not take the drug for that period of time and began feeling so much better that at the end of two weeks I began swimming a mile four times a week like I had before I was diagnosed as a diabetic.
My new physician has placed me on Crestor and Plavix. I am again in pain. He tells me that this is all in my mind and suggested that I should begin seeing a professional for my emotional problems.
I am now seeing a professional who assures me that the physicians have my best interests in hand and that they know what is best for me. I am only 54 years old and guess that I should be thankful for the forty or so years of exceptional good health, but doggone it I felt great until I began following the doctor’s orders.
chd
I had been taking Wellbutrin XL for years and had success with it. I was given the budeprion by Teva approximately six months ago. I noticed nervousness, edginess, not sleeping, soon after. I continued with the budeprion though, because I thought it was supposed to be the same.
I found after several months I started having small panic attacks (which I had never had before). I started having very negative thoughts about my life and was becoming reclusive. Many of my old symptoms seemed to be returning, but these new feelings were more magnified. I had never felt this conflicted in my life before. I actually started thinking suicidal thoughts and honestly believe I could have followed through.
After an extreme anxiety attack my husband and I had to call an ambulance. We thought I was having a heart attack. I didn’t know what an anxiety attack was. I just know I never want to have another one. Where had this come from? It was beyond my understanding. I knew something was very wrong.
I went to my physician immediately after the episode. I had just received my new medication from Medco (it comes in three month supplies) and it was a different pill than the yellow oval Teva brand. It looked like the old Wellbutrin but was a generic. I had barely begun to take this pill and I decided I needed to look up this generic and the generic budeprion. (My sister had come to be with me and this was her suggestion. She thought my medication might need to be looked at.) I suddenly realized this was my problem.
It broke my heart to see the suffering so many people have been enduring. I have suffered beyond belief because of this medication and have given all of this information to my doctor who I went to immediately after the ambulance episode. He now plans to speak to every patient that has take budeprion.
You cannot imagine my shock when I read that this drug was now being looked at by the FDA. My final episode occured very close to the time it was announced.
I am now on Wellbutrin again and will hopefully soon be myself. This experience will leave me with scars though. What I endured was a nightmare with this drug. If anyone has experienced this they need to know that they are not alone. This drug cannot possibly be safe.
Nancy
I have been taking Wellbutrin XL 300 mg. once daily since it came out, and have been on Wellbutrin since 2001. Recently I was switched to the generic version (Budeprion XL). After six and a half years of being free of depression, it has returned. I am filled with anxiety, burst into tears very easily, am exhausted, have constant headaches, and am severely depressed!
My insurance company will only cover the generic form. My psychiatrist is the one who figured out what the problem is. He has several other patients who are experiencing the same thing. Brand name Wellbutrin XL will now cost me $214.00 a month! I am also a recovering alcoholic who has not had a drink since May 2001. I am terrified of relapse. What should I do?
cym
I have been taking Tenormin since 1980. Recently my insurance has changed to the generic. The Tenormin was prescribed for me to lower my heart rate. I also take Benicar for blood pressure.
My question is, did you ever have any feed back on the generic for Tenormin? I had a problem with my BP going extremely high about a year and a half ago, at the time the druggist gave me the generic. I went back to Tenormin and it was okay.
Could this have been a coincendense?
tml
I had chest pains after two weeks while on Bupropion HCL. This continued days after I stopped. Very scary!
Nita
I was on Wellbutrin XL 300 for a couple of years when my insurance company changed me to Budeprion Xl. I wasn’t happy with the change and didn’t feel as good as I had on the Wellbutrin. My prescription was refilled at the beginning of October, and I just went through a terrible week of constantly crying and depression and moodiness. I looked at the pill bottle and they had changed me from Budeprion Xl to Buproprion Xl because, they said when I called them, of the problems reported with Budeprion Xl. I contacted my insurance company and explained the problem and they are willing to accept that I need to be on Wellbutrin.
GEL
My pharmacy switched my script to generic Ambien, and it has been terrible. I get to sleep without problem but wake up 4 hours later. Have to take another half to get 4 more hours sleep. Don’t want to be taking that much Ambien. Cost of Ambien: $96. Cost of generic: $6.
Suzanne D.
About 3-1/2 years ago I suffered a torn rotator cuff, which I had operated on by a respected orthopedic surgeon. In fact, he had operated on me before to replace a knee. But this time on my shoulder, he must have done some nerve damage, as I have suffered from neuropathy into my hand and fingers ever since.
Consequently, I have been on neurontin and lortab since then. I only take the lortab when I have to, and then usually take just half a pill, as I don’t want to become addicted. However, the neurontin is another story, and take three capsules per day, 300mg. It has always worked fine, and has taken the pain away completely… until now.
I’ve been taking the generic, Gabapentin for a couple of years, and it worked ok… not as well as the brand, but passable. My last refill, however, the pharmacy gave me some pills that don’t look the same, and are not working at all. They are made by APOTEX, and are yellow and white. The old generic that I was taking were yellow and tan, with the numbers 2666 imprinted on each end of the capsule ( don’t know the manufacturer). The thing is, this latest refill DOES NOT WORK. Others I’ve talked to who are using neurontin have had the same experience with these APOTEX generics. Isn’t there something that can be done?
JLV
I started out on a generic Budeprion SR. At the third refill, all of the side effects from starting came back, dizziness, horrible head aches, thick tongue, stomach problems & etc. The pharmacy told me the only difference was a different generic manufacturer and I shouldn’t feel any difference. I am now on a DAS Wellbutin SR and haven’t had much side effect experience.
RR
In 2004, my GP prescribed Toprol XL (50 mg daily) for my stage 3 hypertension and migraine headaches. It has worked perfectly; my headaches have been virtually nonexistent and my BP has been in the normal range.
Caremark refilled my last prescription with Metroprolol Succinate (without checking with my physician), which I have started taking. I am now experiencing terrible, unrelenting headaches, but have not yet had an opportunity to have my BP checked.
I hope that Caremark’s zeal to save a few bucks doesn’t result in my having a stroke. My doc told me that per the FDA, generics do not have to be 100% functionally and chemically equivalent, but that the standard is more in the range of 80%, ergo a 20% margin for disaster.
LDB
I was switched to the generic Wellbutrin XL by my doctor. He said it would save me some money. For the first 3 days I felt depressed and I began to have suicidal thoughts. Then I started to feel better on day 4 but still not as good as when I was on Wellbutrin XL. I told my Dr. to put me back on Wellbutrin XL with no substitutes allowed. It will cost me a lot more money but I need the non generic pills.
Hillary
I have been taking Budeprion SR 150mg (generic for Wellbutrin) for about a week and haven’t felt well at all. I’m more depressed than before and almost suicidal. I have been crying on and off for no reason. I decided to look for information on this certain product and now I feel much better after reading that other people have experienced these same type of symptoms. I know now that I’m not going insane, it’s the medicine!! I actually took one of the budeprion just before finding all of this info and decided to make myself vomit and hope that very little got into my system. I’m not taking anymore.
christine uvari
I have two bad experiences to report on generics, both of them are made by TEVA. One is metoprolol, a heart med my mom takes. She told me she felt horrible, I checked the RX, and I noticed it was changed to another company, TEVA.
I take clonazepam and have told my doc that it just does not work. I take 3 at night, .5 mg each and cannot sleep–the brand name Klonopin would have knock me out. She told me several of her patients reported the same problem and most important, problems with Wellbutron generic by TEVA. Many said it did not work at all and were on the brink of suicide. She convinced them to check around at different pharmacies to get a brand other than TEVA. They did with success and they felt normal again…
I read an article in my local paper today about generics, how the FDA disputes the fact that people say generics are different. I could only surmise there is some sneaky stuff going on, like payoffs to let these drugs stay on the market. The net has so much info on people having problems with generics… it’s not that they know it is generic, but their body is telling them that the medicine is not what it should be…
Come on FDA, get this junk off the market and let us have the meds we are intended to have, not cheap imitations. What a sad society when we go to a doc for help, for whatever reason, and they prescribe a drug that is useless. Please FDA go and test every pill TEVA produces to see if the efficacy is as it is supposed to be.
BG
I had been taking Lotensin Hct20-12 for a few yrs and it was changed to generic. My Bp became elevated over 200/110; I was nauseated and dizzy. My physician requested the brand name and all was well again.
However I am no longer able to receive the brand name–the assistance plan will not pay anything towards the cost, and neither will the plan of Medicare D. The prescription costs $80+ at Walmart for 60 pills–it was $60+ last year at this time. I am taking half the prescribed dose.
T.M Bartol
I was having stomach pain from acid reflux. My doctor siad I should use an over-the-counter heartburn acid reducer. So I bought Cimetidine 200 mg tablets. My heartburn went away after a couple days. But I noticed that I was getting nauseous and still had stomach pain. But that was not the big problem. My blood pressure went from 130/82, to 166/98. I stopped taking the tablets and two days later my blood pressure was back down.
Mary E
I was prescribed 150 mg. ranitidine for heartburn about 10 years ago and except for one or two refills consistently took the Geneva Sandoz pink pills. Several months ago I recall thinking how lucky I was that despite a lot of stress I’d been having my heartburn was so well controlled with just one daily pill at bedtime.
Then a month ago I was given generic ranitidine, and found it not nearly as effective. (Insert says it is manufactured by Apotex Inc. in Canada for Apotex Corp. in Florida.) So I’ve gone to non-prescription Zantac 150 because that’s all I can get and it’s somewhat more effective.
After calls to a variety of pharmacies in Seattle (and my daughter checked in New York City), I learned that the Geneva Sandoz pills apparently no longer are available. (Maybe someday I’ll check in Canada–or Switzerland.) But it has been a confirmation of my concerns over generics.
One pharmacist told me the drug makers have to target potency “within a certain range,” which would explain in part why generics are cheaper. But what a headache–or in this case “stomachache”–for the consumer.
Thanks for your column! I would be interested to know if anyone else has had this experience.
Steve Zimmie
Near the beginning of 2007 I started feeling nauseous, dizzy, throwing up. After almost 6 months of my doctor thinking that I was suffering from sinnusitus I finally realized it all started about the time that the generic Norvasc came out. Sure enough when I went back to Norvasc (brand name) I was feeling fine within 3 days and had normal blood pressure readings. Tried the generic and within 6 hours I was sick and my blood pressure had gone from being controlled to 169/109 average.
John Stevens
As prescribed by a doctor, I have been taking Milk Of
Magnesia nightly for almost 10 years. It has worked fairly well but now a doctor says I must stop because my creatinine has gradually gone up to 2.52. I am trying colace with laxative but this also contains magnesium. Where do I go from here?
LL
I checked your site here, because after two weeks of being on generic Prozac (Mylan fluoxetine) my depression is beginning to rear its ugly head, after being free of it for many years on brand-name Prozac. I plan to switch to the brand name as soon as I can.
CC
I have been taking a generic form of Wellbutrin, 75 mg (NOT extended/slow release) for years. My mail-order drug company switched from one generic to another. I didn’t pay much attention to it at the time, but after a few weeks began to feel depressed with suidical thoughts. This was odd as I was not under any unusual stress, as I had been in the past when these symptoms would appear. The next time the drug company refilled the drug, probably after about 6 months, they switched back to the original generic. What a change! It was as if I was starting to take the medication for the first time and the depression went away.
The psychiatrist told me that she had very bad experiences with her patients taking generic Wellbutrin and agreed it was the particular generic I was switched to. She wrote a letter to the insurance company stating that I had to have the particular generic that worked for me. I have had no problems since.
Even different generics are not equivalent. I would recommend anyone taking Wellbutrin, any form, for the first time insist on having the brand name first to see if the drug is working. If it is, and they feel okay about it, then try a generic to see if it works as well.
PH
My husband took Zocor for almost a year. He complained to the doctor about weakness in his legs and hands. He finally stopped taking it but his symptoms worsened, and he died last year of a motor neuron disease. The symptoms he suffered were exactly like ALS.
Annette Falcon
My doctor gave me the generic of Ambien. I had nightmares, palpations, sweating and did not sleep. I switched to brand Ambien and it’s fine.
Also, I was on the generic of Synthroid. I had hair loss and thinning, dryness, lack of texture. I have no more hair on my legs and underarms, It does not work at all. I am now on the brand Synthroid so we’ll see if this works. Will advise later.
I believe all generics are a problem.
c in sf
I had switched to the generic Wellbutrin XL when it came out and then my insurance (Blue Shield of CA) decided that the $35 co-pay would be topped off with the “difference” in cost from the brand. I didn’t really think about it not working until I just happened upon an article about this website. For the past few weeks, I’ve been having a really hard time getting out of the house and definitely not really enjoying being in the world. I am having all my symptoms from my pre-W days from almost 10 years ago. I should have known, because I tried to switch to the generic when I was on the SR formula and I felt like jumping off a building or driving off a cliff.
I am going back to brand name, even if it’s going to cost me $85 a month… since I’m going to a school that’s costing me 30K a year and now I cannot concentrate, do effective work or enjoy being there. My boyfriend just got prescribed W XL and he has no insurance and getting treated through assistance at San Francisco General. I’m going to be really pissed off if he gets the brand name for less than I do… considering I also pay the insurance premium and have a $500 deductible every year to fill before I even just get to pay less.
We all need to vote for a president that will fix health care to favor the people instead of insurance companies or drug manufacturers.
sybil french
The generic of the drug Ambien did not work for me at all (I tried two of the manufacturers). I mentioned this to my doctor and she reported that she had many similar complaints from several of her patients. Insurance company will only pay for generic.
My disdainful criticism goes out to the pharmaceutical company, Sanofi Aventis, for the ongoing prime time TV commercials touting Ambien and Ambien CR. They are very expensive (due in part probably to the marketing expenses), insurance companies won’t pay for the name brand of Ambien. Also Ambien is not included on the drug list for the Presciption Assistance Program. My best advice for people thinking of trying Ambien–don’t even go there.
Darrell Baird
My wife was on Toprol XL 25 mg twice a day for about 10 years. A generic was made available and our drug program switched her over to the generic Metoprolol SR 25 mg. Within 2 months on this generic, her system slowed down and she was hospitialized. There she was given the Toprol and she recovered withing 3 days. Her prescription has since been returned to the original drug.
CRH
I started taking the generic about six months ago. The Wellbutrin worked great but now I am having return of symptons, particularly later in the day.
MEM
A doctor prescribed Budeprion XL for treatment of depression–after a few weeks, I had to discontinue treatment due to “a paradoxical depressive reaction”–meaning it made everything worse. Has this reaction been associated with the generic drug? What about with the name-brand Wellbutrin?
Barbara Garlock
I had terrible problems with the Teva brand of oxycodone (20 mg). I am recovering from bone cancer, and could IMMEDIATELY tell that the Teva brand did not work. It was like taking nothing.
I told my pharmacist as well as my physician. Unfortunately, my physician was not at all understanding, but the pharmacist was — he said he’d had SCORES of people complaining about the Teva oxycodone – he said every time he prescribed it, people said they didn’t want it.
I was informed that Teva is now the only manufacturer authorized to produce oxycodone, and as “older” supplies from other manufacturers run out, Teva is all that will be available! This is an emergency for people in severe chronic pain!!
Fortunately, my insurance company suggested that my doctor enter an order saying I could not take generic oxycodone; I needed the brand name for medical reasons. (And I do! The generic Teva – the only one available – does NOT work!)
The FDA needs to do something about this — imeediately!
A.W.
I had three bladder infections last year and was given the $4 generic antibiotic or another generic antibiotic each time. It just would not clean up the infection. On the fourth bladder infection, I asked for the regular antibiotic and no generics. The bladder infection cleared up, and I have not had one in about 7 months. I don’t think that the generics work in all cases. Also, it is a pity that they have to be used because of the expense of the regular drugs.
Cynthia M
I have used generic Buproprion SR and it worked just as well as Wellbutrin SR. However, a new insurance company switched me to Budeprion SR. Within 3 weeks I was back at the doctor’s office sleepless (horrid nightmares), anxious and about ready to quit my job due to lack of concentration.
Because I’d had a problem with generic ritalin, I knew I tended to be sensitive to generics, but since the previous generic Wellbutrin had worked I was not sure… Nevertheless I timidly asked the doctor if this brand of generic could be the issue (I showed her the Budeprion). She got angry and said “YES” that this version of generic Wellbutrin did not work and other patients had reported similar problems!
She worked with me (two letters) to get the insurance company to allow name-brand Wellbutrin only (since they would not guarantee which version of generic I would get). But just yesterday my mail-order refill was Budeprion! Here I go again…
EN
Last week I called my pharmacy and told them that the generic Oxycontin I was given didn’t seem to work. They told me the FDA and the DEA check this very carefully and I was probably wrong. I am totally convinced it is not as potent as the name brand. I have a chronically damaged nerve root and I cry in pain. Anybody out there find the generic to be weaker?
GM
I am so happy to know that you’re exposing the inadequacy of generic antidepressants and other medications. Today I read & printed (on MSNBC) the article by Jacqueline Stenson regarding ConsumerLab “Finds cheaper drug may not work the same as brand.” along with Linda Douglas’s story. Thank you Linda for sharing! I too tried the Wellbutrin and Zoloft and had to take generics that did not work. I just don’t bother anymore…
I have known this for years–I have experienced this and nobody listens. I discussed this with my doctors, pharmacy and insurance, and I have been repeatedly told there is no difference between generic and brand name. (I beg to differ, there is a difference even with grocery products–some generics taste fine & others are gross!) Don’t cha know, it is all in your head!
I quit taking my anti depressants after my samples (I get from the doctor) are gone. Please do not let the FDA bully you into backing down. This is not only happening with anti-depressants but with other medications as well.
Thank God for The People’s Pharmacy news column.
After checking out your website, ConsumerLab.com and printing this article out for my doctors I am once again willing to go back to the doctors and let them know what I have found & take a “stand” for myself. These past few years have been a nightmare.
GM
Dave S.
I am chronic pain patient, and have taken the Name brand OxContin for two years. It worked fine. Last year my insurance would only pay for genenic brands (TEVA Pharm). I had my dose increased, because the generic is about 1/2 the strength ! Other’s have noticed this also ! What can we do about this problem?
VCS
I was on Glucaphage for diabetes, and later Amaryl was added. This worked fine. The generics for both the drugs were introduced at a certain time interval, that also worked OK. The situation improved and Amaryl (generic) was dropped.
Then I noticed a change in the shape and color for Glucaphage generic so casually inquired with the pharmacist. The answer was it should be same, it came from the same supplier. I started having headaches, weakness and all good stuff that accompanies the elevated sugar level. The generic lot after a few months resembled the initial one. The blood test reflected the history of elevated sugar, so Januvia was added. I did not notice much change from Januvia, so at the visit after 2-months, it was dropped. I am back to the generics of Glucaphage and Amaryl. However one more interesting thing happened.
Based on the bloodtest results, I was also required to take Crestor for “quality of life’. My quality of life changed for sure, downwards. Within 25 days, I had to quit it: first I did not realize what was happening, but when I could barely walk with baby steps, I checked the internet;all the symptoms checked out. All those walking and other exercise are gone with muscle strength gone, just thankful I am moving around independently.
So, going back to the story of the generics, I suspect that I was taking the medicine for diabetes for at least 3 months that was not as effective–cannot prove it. However, it took me on the tour of additional drugs Januvia, and Crestor with long list of adverse effects.
When the patent runs out, what are the requirements for the generics? Are there any trials like phase1-phase4 conducted prior to permitting the production of generic drugs? What are the protocol requirements for the quality controls and how frequently are they submitted to the FDA? Shouldn’t the matching of the original drug and the generic be identical with mathematical precision?
I have suffered a terrible setback with the side-effects of Crestor. It seems I am not alone. When a new drug is released in the market, it would be easy for physicians/patients if all possible side-effects are listed at the pharmaceutical company’s sites. It is part of their submission. So it should be easy to post all the occurrences as they occurred in human trial phase.
C.B.
1. As my doctor and I understand it, the FDA standard for generics allows their strength to vary considerably from brand name — 20% +/- the stated amount of active ingredient. Are we misinformed? If this is true, it’s no wonder so many generics aren’t working for people.
2. I think it would be helpful if others would identify the mfr of problem generics. I suspect we’ll find consistent (and probably often pharmacy-favored lowest cost) problem mfrs. I noticed someone else also had a problem with a Myla med–which wasn’t the same Myla med that gave me trouble.
I take small doses of five meds, very tightly titrated, to control bipolar disorder. After I switched from brand name to the first generic of my primary mood-stabilizer (unfortunately, I don’t have that mfr name anymore) I began to destabilize. When my pharmacy changed again to the Myla brand, I completely destabilized. So essentially, generic Zonesimide has thrown my eight-year treatment completely off track.
WS
Recently my insurance company moved Welbutrin XR into the “mandatory generic” category. I have taken Welbutrin for several years with success, and I noticed a distinct downward change in mood. No other variables had changed in my life so I have to attribute it to the generic. I am now forced to choose between paying a big chunk out of pocket for Wellbutrin or depression–not good!
J. Diehl
I had a similar experiences with Budeprion in place of Wellbutrin. I cried all the time, had feelings of despair and anxiety. Today, in the mail, I read that my insurance company is forcing us to go with generics in 2008 or pay out-of-pocket. Even more disturbing is that I also take Synthroid and am reading here on this site, there are problems with the generic of this drug also. Thanks for taking on this battle and reporting this to the FDA.
CARRI
I have been on Zoloft 50 mg daily for about a decade. Last month I received a shipment of generic Zoloft and I was really excited because my mail order copay was going to be much cheaper, and I thought nothing about taking a generic version, as I have taken generic drugs in the past with no problem. About a week ago I started to experience symptoms that were identical to what I would experience the few times that I had stopped taking Zoloft cold turkey in the past. I felt a weird dizziness, compulsive thoughts, and what I really noticed was an increase of a weird quirk I used to do before going on Zoloft, twirling my hair with my fingers. I started to feel anxious again which was not like me since I started on Zoloft.
I put two and two together and realized the symptoms correlated around the same time I started taking generic Zoloft. I was able to get a 30 day RX from my doc for brand name Zoloft and I can already tell a difference after just 2 days. My insurance company, Cigna, is making me pay the highest tier drug copay because they removed brand name Zoloft from their formulary.
I plan to have my MD write a letter of medical necessity based on my symptoms to my insurance company to exclude me from paying for higher tier copay level. I sincerely hope you pass this information on to the FDA as I do not want others to suffer needlessly who may not have the means or the options to go back to brand name Zoloft as I have. Thanks for having this forum!
Gary Semmel
This is my second posting regarding problems with a generic medication. Generic Wellbutrin simply did not work. I’m paying thru the nose for the real thing (and depressed about it), but I’m not clinically depressed.
Recently I was prescribed Ambien. Same old complaint. It was filled with generic and I could obtain more value with Benadryl. It was absolutely of no help, unlike my past experience with Ambien.
Cathy
I had a terrible experience with generic Prozac about 7 years ago. I was suffering from extremely severe depression at the time, and when I was forced by my insurance company to go to the generic from the name brand, I felt like I’d walked off a cliff. Within a week I was weeping uncontrollably and was nearly nonfuctional. When my psychiatrist intervened and put me back on the name brand Prozac, everything turned around almost immediately. After that my psychiatrist always made sure to write on the Rx that I had to have Prozac, not a generic.
A few months ago I changed jobs and thus, had to change my insurance. Where previously I simply had a higher co-pay for the name brand, the insurance company has a mandatory generic rule, which means that if I ask for the name brand, I not only have to pay the co-pay, but I also have to pay the difference between the cost of the generic and the name brand, which would have run me close to $400 and would have been unaffordable.
With great trepidation I took a deep breath and tried the generic version. The pharmacist explained that my prior bad experience may have been due to a particular supplier’s generic recipe, and that I might have better luck this time. Sure enough, the generic this time seems to work just fine.
I heard your expert today suggest that I make note of the supplier of the generic product that worked, and to ask for that from the pharmacy. That’s a terrific idea, and when I get my refill tomorrow, I plan to take Rx bottle with me to see if I can get the generic prozac from the same manufacturer.
Thank you for a most informative show. I’ve learned more about antidepressants from you and your guests than I have from my own doctors. A program you had a year or so ago on the dangers of antidepressant withdrawal was terrific.
Cathy
Mary R
I took levoxyl for years, and then the formula was changed to make it faster to break down. I went for six months not absorbing the new formula. My thumbnail became so striated that it was like an opaque window (couldn’t see the half moon). I was tired, etc. My numbers were way off on my 6 months’ blood test, and the doctor couldn’t imagine why. I had to search the web to find out others were not absorbing it also.
FF
My pharmacy switched my Toprol XL 25 mg prescription to generic Metropolol ER 25 mg in November 2006. Since then I have experienced hair loss that never occurred before that time. Is this a common side effect of the generic? I am female.
Nancy Carter
I was on Wellbutrin SR 150 and then later dispensed Bupropion SR 150. Drug book said same med. With this last one, I have headaches if taken at night but ok if taken 5-6pm. Strange. I had thought my depressive moods just normal progression but now wonder. Thanks4addressing.
Nancy Carter
In 1982 I was put on Midrin and Vistaril to overcome chronic headaches. This worked very well. When I had a prescription renewal and picked up my meds, I noticed the vistaril looked different & the pharm said it was generic vistaril. I was an ICU nurse & and learned that I could no longer use it, as I kept falling asleep. On a drive 90 min away, it took me 5 hours to get there, as I had to keep stopping to sleep, etc. Back on Trade, no longer had problems.
Sonya Mylin
I, too, have been taking wellbutrin for several years, after trying several other antidepressants. The pharmacy I typically go to closed and they transferred clients’ records to another pharmacy, where they did not ask if I wanted the generic (I always said no thanks), and my prescription on October 1 was filled with the generic. I called the doctor, who said that it would be fine to take the generic.
After experiencing the worst crying bout I have had in years last night, I searched the internet and found this site, found that the FDA was going to be doing further research into the generic, etc. I also experienced binge eating, in addition to crying and becoming easily upset. I called the pharmacy today and picked up a new filled prescription for the real Wellbutrin today. I am happy to read that it only takes several days to start feeling “normal” again.
jb
I have taken many different kinds of antidepressants over the last 15 years, and the only one that completely knocked me off my feet was budeprion. It made me extremely anxious–I would jump at every loud noise–and worse, I had tremendous migraine headaches that would last for hours (not a problem I normally have).
I went off it after two weeks and now take Lexapro. No problems there at all. There is something wrong with this generic formulation of Wellbutrin!
DL
I am so glad I decided to check about this on the web. I had taken Wellbutrin SR 3 years ago and had great results. My depression decreased, cigarette smoking tasted awful after only 6 days of being on the medication and there was the added bonus of increased sexual appetite.
Then I lost my insurance and stopped the medications. Bad time.
Anyway, I got new insurance and my doctor prescribed Wellbutrin XL…I was giving generic SR by the pharmacy, but I figured what the heck, I was on SR before and had great results.
It’s been 4 months on this generic and I am still depressed, smoking like a chimmeny and no extra bonus. I had a small voice in the back of my head telling me it was because it was generic…it was the only thing I could contribute to the meds not working, unless my phisiology had changed within the last two years, which I doubted. I called my pharmacy today and asked that they renew it to brand instead of generic…I hope at last I will get the relief I have been looking for for the past 4 months…
Beth C.
Carol T,
Thank you for posting your comments about generic zolpidem. I find it very interesting that I also have very bad fibromyalgia pain since taking this drug. I took a tablet at 9:00 tonight (it is now 12:20 a.m.) but still can’t go to sleep.
My knees hurt and swell when I take generic zolpidem and I feel hungover during the day. My insurance co-pay is $5.00 for generic zolpidem and $45.00 for Ambien. What a shame it is that insurance companies now treat patients instead of doctors.
mb wilson
I have been treated for depression for almost twenty years and have tried various antidepressant drugs. I began taking 150mg of Wellbutrin several years ago and was extremely pleased with the results. My depression was kept under control with no adverse side effects.
Last January my dosage was increased from 150mg to 300mg. I do not have insurance that covers prescription drugs and was pleased to hear a generic was available. I began taking the generic. I found it was not effective in controlling my depression, but more importantly I started having headaches. As time passed and I kept taking the generic, my headaches became a constant headache, at times excruciating.
My headaches were misdiagnosed and I was prescribed amoxicillin. Within two days I was having a severe reaction to the drugs. The swelling in my joints cause so much pain I couldn’t move without crying. The reaction was so severe that it took two weeks to recover, with the help of steroids. I am once again taking 150mg Wellbutrin and life is good again.
LL
I was taking Metopropol 25 mgs. for my heart a few years ago and got awful chest pain and ectopic beats plus higher blood pressure. The doctor switched me to Toprol XL 25 mgs and then 50 mgs for blood pressure and heart and it worked well. The pharmacist decided to fill my prescription with the “new” generic Metopropol Succ in July without telling me AND I just switched the new to the old bottle without thinking or looking at the label. I’ve been having chest pain, ectopic beats, higher blood pressure, faster pulse, etc.
Today they sent me my refill of the same drug with the right label and I called them, telling them I could not take this drug. They are sending out the Toprol XL but want the doctor to write a new Rx saying no generic! No wonder I’ve been feeling poorly again! I can’t wait to get back on the Toprol XL. Learn what your pills look like and if you see anything different, call the pharmacist and question it! Don’t take anything for granted.
Patricia
My mother has been taking Zoloft for over 5 years for anxiety/depression/border-line bi-polar disorder. About 3 weeks ago, she began having severe anxiety attacks and crying jags lasting for days. She was angry, depressed, nauseated, feeling electric jolts through her body, suffering insomnia and just felt she was ‘losing it’. She didn’t want to be alone because she felt suicidal. She called off work because she couldn’t deal with the pressure and thought she needed her dosage of Zoloft changed.
It was then she realized that on 9/4/07, she had a new prescription filled and the pills looked different. We did research and the manufacturer was TEVA. She went to her primary physician who diagnosed her with SSRI withdrawal and prescribed her Zoloft (no substitutions). It’s been several days and she is still suffering from the issues–the physician said it can take up to a month to get her serotonin levels stable. Someone needs to do something about these generics, specifically TEVA for Wellbutrin or Zoloft, before someone kills themself or harms others!!!!
DGD
I HAVE TAKEN AMBIEN FOR ABOUT A YEAR, JUST WHEN NEEDED, USUALLY TWO-THREE TIMES A WEEK. IT REALLY HELPED ME TO SLEEP ON NIGHTS I COULD NOT. WELL, LAST MONTH I PICKED UP MY PRESCRIPTION AND IT WAS THE GENERIC FOR AMBIEN. IT NOT ONLY DOES NOT WORK, BUT ALSO MAKES ME FEEL VERY STRANGE THE FOLLOWING DAY.
CG
I was taking Wellbutrin XL for about 2 years. Suddenly, I was switched to the generic Budeprion. It was a notable downhill slide from that point on. I suffered for months with an increase in anxiety, like never before…depression, like never before felt, no energy, no desire to do much of anything. I began having anxiety attacks to the point I felt I couldn’t breathe and tightness in my chest, extreme irritability, emotional and anger outbursts and an inability to deal with anything.
My mother talked me into getting help/therapy due to my sudden and very obvious changes. She was fearful for my life. I began seeing a therapist, thinking I was to blame, that I had no coping skills and that my depression and anxiety were getting the best of me. I had an inability to make it through a day of work without a huge struggle. I ruined a relationship I was in.
Then one day in a moment of sheer desperation, I sat and thought…is this really me or what else could it be? I traced it back to maybe being the change in medication. That evening, I looked into Budeprion as a search on google. Lo and behold…almost instantly, I found countless reports on different blogs and websites..of people having similar complaints. I read some entries to my mom over the phone. I was distressed yet elated to know that this might be the problem.
The next day, I contacted my MD who called into my pharmacy for the Wellbutrin XL. I almost immediately noticed a dramatic difference…the anxiety attacks lessened (and now are completely gone), my depression lifted, my energy levels went through the roof and I was again calm, able to manage what came my way. I was astounded at the difference..as was everyone around me. It was noticable to everyone. Since this time, and actually fairly soon after I discovered the issues with Budeprion, I have seen the reports on msnbc, cnn…I am amazed. I am thankful that I was wise enough to figure this all out before it was too late for me. I can only hope that this medication is removed from distribution..before it is too late for others.
AJ
I was on Wellbutrin 150 SR and it worked really well. Then I went off of it for about 2 years. This year I felt my depression coming back on, and my doctor has put me on generic burporion. And let me me tell you–it does not work the same!
My depression has not lifted, and now I am fighting with my Insurance to cover the brand name. The FDA should take the generics off the market! I feel so much better seeing that other people are experiencing the same problems–because now I see that I am not alone in this.
LMF
Nearly two years ago, my 15 yr old daughter was diagnosed with bipolar disorder. The medication prescribed to her included mood stabilizers that worked almost immediately to improve the extremes in mood and suppress her aggression. However, nothing seemed to touch her depression. She has been taking the generic form of Wellbutrin with no success. Last week she attempted suicide, frustrated that nothing works to help her feel better. She is currently hospitalized. We will be insisting that she use the name brand in hopes that we see improvement. Please, if anyone has experience with treatment of bipolar teens, I would love to hear from you. Thanks
MGD
About two months ago, my pharmacist notified me that the generic brand for toprol xl which is metoprol was available, so I decided to try it. After a few weeks, I was having severe stomach pain, but thought this would go away. It didn’t–it got worse, and I also experienced vomiting and diarrhea. So I went back to my doctor and got the regular brand toprol xl which is much better, no problems.
KAP
I was prescribed Detrol LA for bladder control. My insurance company made me use the generic. It worked so well it constricted the muscles in my esophagus to where I couldn’t swallow solid food. After being sick of choking on my food, I stopped taking it and the symptoms left. When I told the doctor, he documented this and sent a letter to my insurance company so I could get Detrol LA, and everything is fine now.
Jane Smith
I have had several bad experiences with generic Ambien. I take it one night, sleep soundly about four hours (I slept 8 hours on the name brand), and the next night I don’t take it and I have horrific panic attack dreams all night.
cgl
I have been taking Lotrel for many, many years and it’s kept my blood pressure under control. On my last visit the NP changed my prescription to amlodip/benazepril, without consulting me. The pharmacist assured me that this drug contained the same ingredidents as the Lotrel I had been taking. I started feeling extremely dizzy and one day at work I nearly passed out. The paramedics came. I went to see my doctor immediately and was told they couldn’t find anything that may be causing this dizziness. Well lo and behold right on the bottle it says MAY CAUSE DIZZINESS. Yes, shame on me for not noticing but shame on them for not recognizing this is one of the symptoms! I’m seeing my doctor tomorrow and I’m demanding to be put back on Lotrel. Genetric equivalent! You can keep it!
John L. Paczos
I have been on Toprol XL since I’ve had my ICD installed a little over 5 years ago. I had a heart attack and suffered cardiac arrest 14 1/2 years ago. I am very active and exercise at the YMCA 5 days a week. Since this drug went to a generic (metoprolol succ er), my pulse rate has gone up 12 points at the same level of exercise. Swimming 1/2 mile twice a week, my pulse rate went from 102 to 114 and when I work the machines, it went from 72 to 84. My cardiologist is giving me a prescription to go back to Toprol XL to see if there is a change. I take 200 mg daily.
src
I have been taking wellbutrin for about 7 years. I was switched to generic 6 months ago or so. I also suspected the generic was different–I felt psychotic, jittery, out of control very frequently!! I just switched back to the regular after a month, and I already feel better. I am so glad I recognized this before too much more time went by. The generic is terrible and scary.
David Propes
I have been on Wellbutrin XL since my wife passed away in 2001. It has worked great for me and provided me with energy and a lift in spirit that I needed. Recently, I went to pick up my prescription and was told that I was going to save money because a generic form was available. Since taking the generic, I have noticed that my energy level dropped tremendously around midday. Of course, this makes sense if a larger amount is being released early with the generic form. I do not believe that the generic is as effective as the brand.
S. Cook
I had taken Ultram Tabs more than a year. When our insurance increased my co-pay for it significantly, I accepted the generic Tramadol HCL Tabs. I didn’t notice the gradual changes until I noticed that I still had some of the Ultram and thought I should use it up. Immediately I noticed a difference. The Ultram was much more effective and I was no longer constipated. I willingly paid the extra $50 to have Ultram rather than the generic although this doesn’t seem fair to me.
J D deB
I occasionally take 1/3 of a 10 mg Ambien for jet lag when I travel overseas. I place the piece of the pill under my tongue and let it dissolve for rapid onset. I noticed that the generic Zolpidem was not creating the same rate of sleep initiation or no sleep initiation as the Ambien. There seems to be some differences in the dissolution of the tablet.
PHS
A doctor told me once that generic drugs and name brand drugs are not identical. They are very close, and in some cases the small amount of difference doesn’t matter that much, like in the case of generic ibuprofen or other drugs for which dosing is not as delicate. But for some drugs, like psychotropic medications used to treat depression, bipolar disorder, etc, the tiny difference in the makeup of the generic can be extremely harmful to patients. The doctor I spoke with would not prescribe generics of certain medications.
Unfortunately, my insurance will ONLY cover generic drugs if there is a generic available. I do not think that this is ethical.
Here’s a source that explains a little bit about “essential similarity,” the standard set by the FDA for generic meds:
http://tinyurl.com/33evux
“For the purposes of drug approval, the interchangeability of a generic drug and the corresponding brand-name drug is based on the criterion of “essential similarity,” which requires that the generic drug have the same amount and type of active principle, the same route of administration, and the same therapeutic effectiveness as the original drug, as demonstrated by a bioequivalence study. However, bioequivalence and therapeutic effectiveness are not necessarily the same.”
R.B. Canon
I have had to take medication for cardiac symptoms related to MVP for a number of years. Several years ago my insurance switched me to a generic from my brand-name, long-acting beta blocker. It didn’t occur to me that a generic would make any difference. However, my symptoms (tachycardia, frequent pvc’s, breathlessness) began to reappear. When I was switched back to the brand name, they once again disappeared. Since then, my doctor has always prescribed the brand name of long-acting medicines, particularly.
When I related my experience with my temporary trial of a generic to my dentist, who previously had also been a pharmacist (with a ph.d), he was not at all surprised. He mentioned that generic quality of long acting drugs, particularly, suffers badly because of the greatly diminished quality control factor during the production process as compared to the brand name. Apparently, when the brand name is put together, a human superintends each capsule’s progress, literally counting each spansule, whereas the generic is checked for quality only on a very random basis.
TR
My neurologist introduced me to Ambien CR 12.5 mg last year, and he advised me to use it every night. Recently, he switched me to generic Ambien 10 mg. The one maker of generic Ambien that fails to work reads “Car” on its label. All other generic brands are effective.
Kathleen
I am absolutely amazed with the number of complaints regarding Budeprion XL. I, too, was switched to the generic form of Wellbutrin XL in June of this year. The first thing I noticed was the different appearance of the pills (Budeprion was a horse-pill compared to Wellbutrin). I had been on Wellbutrin for 5 years and had no signs of depression.
On Budeprion, I was moody, irritable, flying into rage for no good reason, and had been steadily gaining weight with no changes in my eating or exercise habits. I was miserable. It wasn’t until I choked on a Budeprion pill, that I realized that this pill could be the reason for everything I’d been feeling.
I called our mail-order pharmacy and was told that a switch was made to generic, apparently by my INSURANCE company. I called my doctor, told her about my experience, and she is now writing DISPENSE AS WRITTEN on my prescriptions. Within days of being back on name-brand Wellbutrin, I was my old self. It’s been 6 weeks back on. I’m feeling so much better and I’ve lost 10 pounds. Amazing.
Something must be done. These are not the same drugs.
Barb
I have been taking budeprion xl for the past eight months, since my insurance company would no longer pay for wellbutrin. I was ok for a few months, then started to go into deep depression for a period, followed by feeling ok again. About two months ago, I felt so desperate that I literally thought of driving off a bridge or into a tree, I felt like I did ten years ago in the depths of despair. Unfortunately, my doctor is no longer in practice and I must wait almost a month for an appointment with a new psychiatrist, even though I explained how I was feeling. Don’t know what I am going to do, but I do know that the generic form does not work.
LS
I’ve been on name brand Wellbutrin 300 XL for years with very good results. I have now tried two different kinds of generic Wellbutrin 300 XL that don’t work for me. Teva, the yellow pills and then a white pill that looks almost the same as the name brand. My insurance company decided that they wanted this so my doctor went along. A month later I’m in his office totally feeling anxious, having terrible dreams, feeling so depressed that every stimulus hurts, etc. Nothing else changed but the Wellbutrin. So, they change me back to the name brand for three months and I feel better pretty fast, and then when I refilled it, lo and behold it’s a new generic without anyone telling me. Guess they thought I wouldn’t notice, hopefully. Well, I wish I could say I didn’t. Now it’s waking up at 4 AM and crying. I’m upset because I get to feel so bad just so someone can save $50.00 a month. Not very happy with my doctor either. Please note that some people can feel the difference with these drugs in just a week or two.
CLW
My insurance company, in their infinite wisdom, decided I should have Bupropion instead of Wellbutrin. I immediately started a slow slide back toward the state I was in before I started Wellbutrin. I needed more sleep, but I had less energy. No matter how much sleep I got, it wasn’t enough and I yawned repeatedly throughout the day. My energy level was way down and my weight started to climb back up. I had lost 30+ pounds on Wellbutrin and now, thanks to Bupropion, have gained about half of it back. My frame of mind tended more and more toward hopelessness and despair.
PLEASE DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS DRUG! It’s ineffective at best and dangerous at worst.
Christine
I agree with everyone’s comments on the generic Wellbutrin I switched about a month ago and have been having continual bad headaches, which I never get, experiencing extreme forgetfulness and inability to concentrate. Also feel very insecure at work. I am very grateful I heard about people having problems with the generic because who knows how long it would have taken me (or a doctor) to figure it out. It should be taken off the market now!!
sam
Since the Wellbutrin XL 150 is not available in generic form yet, and the 300 XL is–why don’t you ask the doc to write you a script for Wellbutrin XL 150 with the directions “take 2 tabs daily”? Then you will get the therapeutic dose without the non-preferred co-pay. Also, there is a generic out now for Wellbutrin XL 300 by Watson pharmaceuticals that closely resembles the brand-name–including the hydrophilic coating that regulates the time-release mechanism. Watson is a subsidiary of GlaxoSmithKline–the maker of Wellbutrin brand. Try asking the pharmacy for Watson generic instead of budeprion.
C. Parker
My doctor prescribed Budeprion XL 300 mg as a smoking cessation aid. Within 30 minutes of taking the first tablet, I became agitated, nervous, & anxious. I thought this was strange, as I had taken this medication five or six years ago to quit smoking and it did not affect me this way. In fact, it had the completely opposite effect as what I was currently experiencing. I then remembered that when I took this medication previously, I used the brand name Wellbutrin, NOT the generic. I kept thinking the symptoms would go away, but they did not. After experiencing an additional symptom of rapid heartbeat, I stopped taking the medication on day five. However, I ended up in the ER two days later, thinking I was having a heart attack. My heart checked out fine and I was told that my symptoms were caused from anxiety related to the side effects of the Budeprion.
Dave
I find the generic of Effexor XR 75 mg is far less effective than the brand name. I began treatment on samples of Effexor XR, and stayed on samples for quite some time.
Recently I’ve switched to the generic provided by my Maintenance Drug Plan and it’s just not the same. There is an effect, but it’s muted.
One question I would raise is that it is known, I believe, that antidepressants that once worked well can decrease in their effectiveness over time. The longer a person is on an antidepressant the more likely they are taking a generic, so the decrease in the effectiveness of the generic may be at least partially related to the length of time a person is on a particular drug. And just as one drug is effective for some but a different one for others, the decrease in effectiveness over time may be person specific.
However, it may just as well be that subtle differences in the generic do not fit the particular chemistry of the person. We still don’t know precisely how these drugs work so it’s entirely plausible that a generic and the brand are just different enough to lose whatever magic the brand’s chemistry provided.
Thanks for your site.
Bethanie Ramos
I had a horrible experience with the generic product Wellbrutin XL. I went back to using the non-generic Wellbrutin (150ml x2). The difference was immediately apparent. I felt better. I feel that the generic product should not be proscribed.
PJM
I switched from Wellbutrin XL 300 to the fat, yellow generic pills. I too had many problems falling asleep. I didn’t like it at all. I had some 150 SR pills, so I went back to those 2x a day. I’ve found that using the generic SR pills 2x a day is much better–no problems with the generic SR pills. I’ve been taking those for some time now and it’s a little inconvenient to take the pill 2x a day but I have no more problems. Unfortunately I got a 3-month’s supply of 300 mg generic XL at $100 so I’m going to have to use them at some point. I may alternate days w/the 300 XL generics to use up all the pills. But what a rip-off. Next time I get a Rx I’m going back to Wellbutrin XL.
RMT
I just read the article about how you folks reported that a lot of people were having trouble with the generic Wellbutrin XL 300. My insurance company switched me this past winter to the generic, and within weeks the symptoms of my depression returned. I was weepy and lethargic and didn’t want to get out of bed.
My doctor contacted the insurance people and demanded that they let me take the real Wellbutrin XL, and I felt the difference within a week! It is more effective–there is no doubt in my mind. I will NOT take the generic again, even if they “improve” it.
Bless you for advocating for people like me.
RMT
ILG
I came across this today and thank goodness! I take Toprol XL (or was) as a daily “preventative” for migraines. I started on a different beta blocker around 9 years ago but switched over to Toprol XL when the first one prescribed was not being manufactured any longer (can’t remember name, sorry). Anyhow, Toprol XL 50 mg has been a life saver. Without it , my head is in constant fuzz, depression is fierce, face and neck pain, anxiety and so on. With it I can be a normal person. Several weeks ago I called, my mail order company for a refill and they sent Metoprolol ER 50 mg ( EON Labs/Sandoz). In the past I haven’t had problems with generic substitutes, so my doctor writes that I can take a generic to save costs.
Over the past couple of weeks, I haven’t slept well and all the daily bad symptoms started creeping up. I’ve rewashed all my laundry, stayed away from smokers and really watched my diet (perfumes, smoke and certain foods are triggers for my migraines as well as lack of sleep….). It finally dawned on me this morning that my medicine has changed and this has been going on since I started this bottle.
I’ve called the mail order company and my doctor’s office to correct this and have even asked for a small prescription filled of the Toprol XL until the mail order supply comes in. I know the insurance company will say something, but what’s the point of taking a medicine that doesn’t work, and also, if the pharmacy is going to change to generic even if the doctor has said generic is OK, shouldn’t they say something before they send it out to you or you pick it up at the pharmacy so YOU can decide whether or not you want to try?
I can say that I would have said yes to the generic since I have not had previous problems, but then I would have discovered the problem much more quickly and not suffered for the last three weeks.
I am eternally gratefully for the medicines that I take for my migraines and appreciate the companies that manufacture them, and my doctor who has helped find the paths to feeling better. However, poor substitutes pushed by pharmacies and insurance companies is not practicing good health care.
M.L.
I was relieved to hear the NPR report by Joanne Silberner on generic Wellbutrin and how it doesn’t work. While that report blamed the sustained/extended release aspect of the drug, I myself take the regular version of the drug and when I was switched to the generic of the regular drug (not SR or XL, just regular brand name to regular generic) I found that that generic did not work. I became very depressed, cried easily, had blood sugar issues, and extreme ADD-like symptoms. When I went back to the brand name, I was fine.
For those who may not know, Glaxosmithkline (and many other drug companies) have programs where you can get the brand name of their drugs for free from them directly if you are low-income and your health insurance won’t cover prescriptions, or won’t cover the prescription you need (in this case my insurance would only cover the generic, which did not work, thus it did not cover the drug I needed). The program is called Bridges to Access. So you can still get the brand name drug you need, for free.
Aaron
RE: Ambien and generic Zolpidem.
My experiences have been similar to others’. Ambien works great–to sleep in 10 minutes for 7 hours. Even 1/2 works fine.
Zolpidem does not work. Takes 1-2 hrs to get to sleep, and sleep is neither of high quality, nor uninterrupted.
MR
I’ve been taking generic amitriptyline for years. The brand name used to be Elavil, but the drug now only exists in generic form. A year ago, from one refill to the next, I immediately started waking in the middle of the night, with depression symptoms re-appearing after a few days. I went to a different pharmacy and got a different batch of it–the symptoms stopped. However, this happened again in 3 of the following 4 refills. I wrote to the manufacturer–Mylan–and to Walgreens. Walgreens never replied; Mylan asked for the product back “to test”. However despite frequent letters I’ve never had a written response from them about the results of these tests, if they even did them, nor did they answer my question about whether the drug is manufactured in the USA or just marketed here. (They bought an Indian company last fall, I discovered.) Walgreens only buys this drug from this company so I went to an independent pharmacy. They switched to a different company. The pills were the same size and shape, with different markings. They were fine one month–but the problem recurred the next. I’m now on yet another company’s amitriptyline. Again the pills are the same size and shape. So far the problem hasn’t recurred, but I’m wondering if these companies really do manufacture the stuff themselves or simply import, mark and market them. It seems odd that the same size pills are appearing from different companies, and producing the same problems, which I’ve never had with this drug until last last year.
MKC
I recently began taking the generic version of Toprol XL and have noticed that I’m not feeling as well as I normally do. I’m a little “buzzy” and a bit anxious.
dms
I have panic/anxiety disorder and had been taking Klonopin for years. My insurance company no longer allows brand name meds, so I take clonzapam now (generic). I have lost all my body hair and the hair on head is getting thinner every day. I have also lost 20 lbs and suffer from severe depression and anxiety. My insurance company will not allow me to go back to the Klonopin so I suffer on even though my doctor has sent letters saying this change is medically necessary. I also have three friends who have experienced the same symptoms on clonzapam and are also unable to switch back. If there is anyone else out there with this problem I’d love to hear from you. Someone has to make the insurance companies stop making medical decisions when doctors say no. Help.
fran
I have taken Zolpedem 10 mg for over a month (the generic for Ambien), and it seemed to work okay for the first month, but now my new refill of Zolpedem does not work. It takes several hours to fall asleep. I talked to the pharmacist, and he said he would change to the real Ambien, but my insurance wanted to charge me over $130 for the prescription, so I decided to wait, but I am frustrated. I shouldn’t have to even have to ask for the real Ambien when a generic is supposed to be equal. Zolpedem does not work!!
Sharon
All I can say is *wow* I’m not going crazy. I too was suddenly switched to generic Wellbutrin last February, which by the way was the same time I had to go on prescription Xanax. Now it all makes sense to me. The lack of energy even though my eating is free of most junk foods and I work out daily. The 10 lb weight gain, the feelings of despair, and my nonstop anxiousness. I experienced the night sweats most have spoken about, eye twitching, and inability to organize my thoughts or make a decision.
Thank goodness a friend sent me a link that aired on NPR about the problems linked to the generic. I went to my doctor today, and she called the pharmacy with instructions to only refill with the name brand, not the generic. She also told me that I’m the 5th person in the past 2-3 months who has come to her complaining of the same symptoms since having been changed to the generic version.
Is it going to take a suicide before the FDA realizes what this drug is doing to people? I hit rock bottom last week, tomorrow I will be back on the name brand Wellbutrin 300. I can only hope it kicks in quickly.
A.R.
I am a psychiatrist in private practice, and have had three patients in the last few months have problems with generic fluoxetine, specifically the Sandoz 20mg. The reports are consistent – lost efficacy, sedation where there had been none in the one patient who had been on brand-name fluoxetine in the past, and SSRI discontinuation syndrome after missing one dose, which should not happen with fluoxetine, given its long half-life. I went so far as to try both the Sandoz generic and Eli Lilly Prozac myself, and I would agree, based on side effects, that they are not only different strengths but different drugs. The Sandoz appears to be a short-acting sedating weak dose SSRI (paroxetine? fluvoxamine?). All three patients improved within two weeks on brand-name Prozac with resolution of all side effects, including one patient who had been sedated by the Sandoz product qhs, yet was so stimulated by Prozac qAM that she required sleeping medication after the change.
I have reported this to two pharmacists in my area who have contacted Sandoz but not had any response beyond that it will be looked into. For now I am prescribing brand name fluoxetine only, something I hate to do since I do not like to support Lilly given their ethical violations, and try to avoid prescribing Lilly products when possible.
I’m raising this now because of the recent reports about Budeprion, since I’ve had to change patients back to Wellbutrin XL in several cases, and now there are numbers to prove why. I hope someone can look into the Sandoz fluoxetine. Meantime, I will keep in mind that what I prescribe is not what my patients may be taking, and this is no way to practice medicine.
Carole Grady
I had been taking Wellbutrin 300 XL for 10 years, and my ins
provider, Express Scripts, changed it on me in Jan., 2007.
Budeprion was not effective for me at all, raising my BP, causing GAD and ADD exacerbation. It took me three months to fight to get the brand, and now they are charging me a copay of $182 for a 90 day supply. I will see my MD to try to get a cheaper antidepressant, but it has been working for 10 years and I am hesitant to change.
c.h.
After my insurance company switched me from Wellbutrin XL to the generic, my depression came back – within days of the switch. I had had problems on other forms of the generic and prior to switching to the brand xl, I was paying for the 75mg. brand wellbutrin ( insurance would only cover generic). When it became unavailable, I switched to the Wellbutrin xl (brand). I was doing ok.
Then the insurance switched me to the generic. I immediately noticed a difference and became more and more depressed. Then I got switched to a different generic of Wellbutrin XL, and my life was destroyed. I became suicidal. I had not been this depressed in years. I researched methods to commit suicide – I wanted to make sure that I did it right – it had to work. I did not want to risk surviving. My relationship of 5 years was completely destroyed.
I marked a date on the calender to commit suicide. My mood disorder became completely destablized.
On oct. 1st, my insurance approved the brand Wellbutrin XL , I immediately started it and noticed a difference within days. I have a long road ahead of me -just to get back to where I was – but then I’ll never get back, because my experience with the generic destroyed everything in my life that was important to me.
SMB
My son was switched to Wellbutrin 300 XL generic and his depression worsened, his doctor added Celexa… Then, he developed nausea, headaches and was very irritable. His GI problems meant he could not go to school. He was tested with brain scans, HIDA scan had GI biopsy, MRIs and related CAT scans. Ultimately, he was hospitalized for suicide.
He is now better. He is off the Celexa and still takes the generic 300 XL Wellbutrin and 150 mg Wellbutrin was added to this. He takes Nexium for the nausea and trileptal for the irritability and pills for his headache.
Thanks to the research from CL, I am reasonably certain that my son’s bizarre symptoms were the result of the switch by my insurance company to the generic, and that his current other medicine is needed to manage the failings and side effects of this generic.
I am getting his doctor tomorrow to prescribe the brand name Wellbutrin and we will then know more. If so, a young person was made to suffer needlessly and in the process he consumed thousands of dollars worth of medical tests because of the substitution of an apparently non-comparable generic that evidently released the medicine too quickly, resulting in reports of nausea, headache, irritability and the lack of medication after a number of hours in the increase in depression.
DLP
I have been taking ZOLOFT for several years but switched to the generic SERTRALINE a few months ago.
I find that my depression has returned–admittedly it’s not as pronounced as pre-ZOLOFT but I am considering switching back to ZOLOFT in the hope that it will relieve my symptoms.
Beth
I have been depressed for as long as I can remember. I almost got used to it–the anxiety, the lack of control, the crying, the inability to think or make decisions–I actually thought everyone lived like that and I just wasn’t able to control it as well as everyone else.
I was very reluctant to take any medication, but I agreed to start on Wellbutrin in November 2006. I started on 150 XL to begin with, and I remember even on the first day of taking it, I actually felt the knot in my stomach that had been there for over 10 years loosen and melt away. I was boosted up to 300 XL, but had the tinnitus side effect and some muscle twitching at that dose, so I asked my doctor to take me back down to 150–I was taking that smaller dose the first few weeks and felt okay; I think that’s actually a sub-therapeutic dose for most adults but maybe it’s because I’m a very small person, but anyway I felt comfortable being taken back down.
At that time, my doctor decided not to take me down to Wellbutrin 150 XL, but to put me instead on the generic Budeprion 150 SR (she told me there was no generic form of the XL at the time; not sure if that’s still true). I was wary about this, because I knew that the SR was meant to be taken twice a day, and I was only going to be taking it in the morning, so I was concerned that it would wear off in the afternoon, leaving me with hellish evenings until the next day’s dose. My doctor assured me that the SR would last throughout the day (which I know now is not true; my doctor should lose her license for some of the things she pulled with me) so I went with it.
It happened gradually, but I realized after awhile that I was sliding back into that old familiar state of physical and emotional agony. I contacted my doctor (thinking it was because I was on SR rather than XL that this was happening, not knowing it was because it was the generic form) with my concerns, and she basically cast off my concerns, and told me that if my medication was no longer working that I would need to go on Paxil or Prozac (I won’t take SSRIs for a multitude of reasons, which I discussed and were summarily ignored by my PCP), and as I was unwilling to switch medications, I ended up doing nothing, continuing to refill my generic script, and see-sawing between thoughts that my change in mood was “all in my head” and that my medication simply no longer worked, and I was doomed to feel the way I did for the rest of my life, as there was no other anti-depressant I was willing to take. During the time that my medication was not working, I went through the dissolution of an abusive relationship, the loss of my apartment, stalking/harassment, and the loss of most of my friendships. I continued to spiral downward, crying, hating myself, feeling worthless, and (although not technically suicidal) thinking of death as a preferable alternative to day after day of feeling this way every single day.
Eventually I felt like the generic Budeprion I was faithfully taking might actually be making me WORSE so I stopped taking it about 2 months ago. I found an article only yesterday about the ineffectiveness of Budeprion and I finally feel like I have answers. I know I can survive without my medication (and even survive MASSIVE amounts of stress, as I am currently medication-free and still dealing with not having my own place to live and the self-loathing and despair that comes in the aftermath of being abused), a fact that I am quite proud of, but I also feel that knot in my stomach back, I feel sad/stressed/worthless a lot of the time, and I still think about death and dying on a daily basis. Although I am currently surviving, I know the quality of my life could be much better, and I think I want to give Wellbutrin another try. I know now that what I was feeling wasn’t all in my head and I am not crazy–my medication ceased to work. It feels good to know this.
There’s nothing I can do to get on name-brand Wellbutrin now, because my PCP doesn’t believe anything that comes out of my mouth and won’t switch/adjust my medication unless I agree to take an SSRI, but I am searching for a new job (and thus, new insurance) and I am going to see a qualified psych about all this mess once that happens. I hope I can manage to hang on until that happens.
I am so angry that this generic medication is being given to people and also angry at any doctors who aren’t willing to listen to patients who insist that a switch to the generic wasn’t working for them. I am lucky that when I was being abused, stalked, and subsequently homeless, that I was picked up and taken in by a wonderful friend and my now-boyfriend. If he hadn’t been there, I probably would have committed suicide by now, since I had no effective medication helping me through one of the hardest times in my life. I still struggle every day, but at least now I know that it isn’t my fault and I can try to do something to change this.
Sorry this was long; I just needed to get my story out, and I feel better for doing so. Thanks.
Charlene
I took Wellbutrin SR for a couple of years with moderate success and then switched to XL when it hit the market–and with significant improvement. I had been taking it for a few years when I got a new insurance provider who flat-out refused to continue the Rx. They said there was no generic for the XL and, instead, gave me the generic for the SR. Then, out of the blue, I attempted suicide. *I feel it’s important to note that I was 35 and had never, ever been suicidal before.* As a result of course, I was hospitalized, fired, and then lost my home–but, on the bright side, at least the $13,000 hospital bill convinced my (now self-paid) insurance to cover the Wellbutrin XL.
Unfortunately, nine months later, there was a delay in my prescription delivery and I took one of the old, ‘generic’ pills to tide me over–and, that night, I attempted suicide again. I have, of course, disposed of that prescription since then. Too bad, it might have proven useful evidence.
In summary, I firmly believe that I would have been better off with no drug at all than with the God-Awful ‘generic’ that nearly took my life–twice.
H Thorsen
I had been using the generic bupropion I got from Sam’s Club pharmacy for years without incident, it worked just fine. But I switched health insurance plans, and Aetna required me to get my bupropion by mail instead of at the pharmacy. But shortly after I started using the pills they sent, I started having cigarette cravings, which I haven’t had in years, so I was suspicious. Then I started feeling down, and craving alcohol as a pick-me-up, just like before I went on any meds for depression.
When I described all this to my doctor he said it sounded like the medicine was leaving my system and not being replenished by the pills. So he prescribed the brand-name Wellbutrin for me, which I got mail order from Aetna, and that works fine. But of course now I pay a higher price for the brand-name drug, and I wouldn’t mind going back to the generic I got from Sam’s Club, but my plan doesn’t allow it, and they weren’t sympathetic when I told them the first pills they sent me just didn’t work. Maybe with this in the news, they’ll give me a refund for the difference.
Edythe Johnson-Gallo
I’ve been taking Ambien for a few years now, and was switched to the generic by Prasco Labs in April. I definitely notice a difference in the behavior of this drug. Ambien was very fast-acting (within 30 minutes), but with the generic, I will sometimes still be awake after two hours, and need to take extra medication in order to finally go to sleep. For a while I thought I was just becoming habituated, but I don’t think I take it often enough for this to be the case. (I only take it about 2xs a week.) I think there must be something different about the generic drug.
Eleanor/Michael Kahn
Joe and Terry: have just seen the article on MSNBC.com and glad to see some emerging science about this issue.
As prescribers we are seeing problems with generic Wellbutrin XL also, after having great results with the brand name product. Had actually felt that the XL was a major improvement over the SR when it came out.
We are also seeing alot problems with generic Celexa ( Dr. Reddy’s lab)–citalopram and a few with generic Zoloft, and now many patients who are finding that their Ambien is not nearly as effective and we don’t believe that all these folks are suddenly developing tolerance! Thanks for your good work as always!! E and M
D. Bertoldo
I too had a negative reaction to the generic for Wellbutrin. My depression and FMS pain came back and it was as if I was taking no medication. In addition, generic percocet did not work for me or for my mother-in-law. Thank you for this site, hopefully it will help the many people suffering needlessly and get the FDA’s attention.
M.G.
My son had been taking Zoloft for OCD for a few months with great success. The pharmacist then switched us to the generic form. I was thrilled with the cost savings, but very soon our son’s OCD behaviors and anxiety had returned in spades. Since we were still in the process of slowly increasing his dosage, we tried decreasing it, in case we’d inadvertantly gone too high. Nothing happened. Our psychiatrist then recommended trying the name brand again. She said it was unlikely to be the cause, since they’re supposed to be identical, but it was worth a try. Wow, was it ever! Within a week he showed radical improvement and was soon back to his improved state. Before we made the switch, he knew something was wrong with the medication–he wanted to stop taking it. But we persuaded him to try again in case the generic form wasn’t working. The change was so dramatic, we were all convinced the generic form simply wasn’t working for him. We would be feeling pretty desperate right now if our doctor hadn’t thought of this. It’s been several months since we switched back, and he’s fine now.
Nancy Palmer
I was on name brand Wellbutrin XL 150mg/QD and felt great, lost some weight. After 2 months I was changed to the generic and within two weeks I felt myself spiraling down, gained weight, very moody. I called my pharmacy and reported this to the pharmacist. I had to wait 2 months to get my prescription renewed and to request the name brand. Within 2 weeks I was feeling better, sleeping better, appetite under control again. This generic definitely does NOT work as the name brand and should be pulled off the market!
Lisa Mumby
I was prescribed the brand name drug Oxycontin for chronic pain and had been taking it for months when the generic hit the market. When I took the generic I suffered from severe flu like symptoms and had pain relief less than 50% of the time. I took it for over 9 months and during that time I suffered sweats, I lost 50 pounds, I was constantly sick to my stomach-so my doctor switched me back to the name brand-my symptoms went away within 24 hours!
Unfortunately, I got a new insurance company and they required me to take the generic, or they would only pay the generic cost-I ended up paying the difference to the tune of over $500 a month-it’s a crime! Some generics just don’t work-and it’s the sick and the frail that have to suffer the consequences for that!
Alexx Berkley
When the formulation for inhalers changed, I was given ProAir Albuterol Inhaler in place of Proventil. The new inhalers don’t give the burst of medicine that Proventil did, and I have to use twice as much to get the same effect. The pharmacist told me the reason for switching to a different med was the propellant in the inhaler. He said it was because it was depleting the ozone layer!?!
Using the Proair, I find more of the stuff in my mouth than in my bronchial tubes! And, I AM inhaling at the time, I press the top to release the med.
Another generic I take on a regular basis is LorTab for chronic pain. (hydrocodone/APAP, 10/325 mg). I found that several of the generics don’t work near as well. I have to drive cross town to pick up the yellow colored generic as it is the closest to the Brand Name’s effectiveness. My pharmacy carries the cheaper alternative by another pharmaceutical company, and it simply doesn’t work. It feels like I have taken a 5 mg as opposed to a 10 mg.
More and more of the pharmacies are using subgenerics as they are cheaper and when one is totally disabled and on Medicaid, we are given no choice as to what is dispensed! I don’t mind taking a generic medicine, but there SHOULD be a REAL standard for all generics and subgenerics! Every pharmacist I have ever got a generic from states, “They are identical to the brand name!” NOT TRUE!!!! If they were, they would work identically, and not so POORLY, in many instances.
Because I also sleep poorly, my doctor prescribed Lunesta and I lay in bed hallucinating all night and felt drugged the next morning. We switched to Ambien 10 mg, and it worked very well, but I had a problem with sleepwalking and finding myself waking up in the kitchen, standing at the counter eating ice cream straight out of the carton, with a gallon of milk sitting next to the carton! Of course, I put everything up and went back to bed and straight to sleep. There was no drug ‘hangover’ and I felt rested, but after hearing about people leaving their homes, driving their cars, etc… I quit taking it. Sleep is good, but not the side effects.
Nicholas Earnest
While seeing an allergy/asthma specialist a few years ago, I was prescribed Claritin-D. After a few years of shots, I didn’t need pills anymore, but my allergies have come back. Claritin-D is now over the counter, and works to clear up my symptoms.
I have been using Jewel/Osco’s generic Equaline, but it doesn’t seem to do anything. My symptoms are just as bad with the generic as they are with no medication at all. Taking the pills regularly(3-4 weeks straight, according to directions) doesn’t make a difference. Taking Claritin name-brand (at any time, regularly or not) always works.
TC
I was taking Wellbutrin XL 150 once a day at night and doing great. Then the generic version came out and due to the price adjustments by the insurance coverage, I switched to Bupropion SR 150, twice a day.
The first day or so was fine. Then I started getting sick and nauseous between 10 and noon every day. After dinner I would feel really down and blue. I took the evening dose right before bed so I noticed less of an effect but if I woke up, I felt sick until I could get back to sleep.
I told my doctor and he tried to get me back on the brand but the insurance company would not budge. I tried it for a few weeks to see if things got better but they did not. Now I have to pay an outrageous price for the brand myself. Then today I hear the news story about these medications and I was so shocked but relieved that I am not alone.
The story indicated that the generic dissolves quicker than the brand. That explains why it was always two to three hours after I took my dose. Please can’t someone do something about this and soon! Do we really think it is right to make people suffer in this way or else pay very dearly not to suffer? Why can’t insurance companies understand that we are all unique and variations about how an individual reacts to a medication should be expected? You should not be punished and forced to pay a lot more because you react differently to a medication. Do we really want people who are helped by this medication to be forced to stop taking it? Surely someone is in a position to remedy this and make a difference.
JDL
Today i read an article on MSN.com that explained a lot of problems I have been experiencing. I was switched from Wellbutrin XL to the generic form. My mood swings and anxiety continued to increase, especially at night. My doctor added two prescriptions for anxiety, but the combination still does not have my emotions under control. Looking back, everything got worse when I was switched to the generic form. I will be calling my doctor tomorrow to request a switch back to Wellbutrin XL instead of the Teva generic version. Thank you for bringing attention to this and helping me recognize what is really happening to me.
dbd
I read the MSNBC report today, and realized it was not just my imagination about the generic Wellbutrin. About a year ago, I had an excellent response to Wellbutrin XL, but like so many others, switched to generic bupropion SR because of the cost. The generic by Sandoz is not as great, but pretty good nevertheless. On the other hand the generic by Teva is nearly worthless. I see a huge difference in how I feel and function. I now refuse to buy the Teva, and insist on the Sandoz brand generic (bupropion SR 150mg BID). Ideally, I’d take Wellbutrin XL, it’s the best one.
Barbara Bergeron
After reading all of the postings about generic Wellbutrin XL 300 mg, I have realized why I was feeling as if I was becoming immune to it. It really wasn’t working so I stopped taking it. While I was on it, I all of a sudden I started having a terrible fear of heights. I couldn’t even go on escalators anymore, or go into the mountains while on vacation in Tennessee. Now that I have quit taking the generic Wellbutrin I haven’t had any problem with this. What a relief!!! This generic med should be taken off of the shelf before something horrible happens to someone.
TJS
Used generic form of Zoloft for a while and my symptoms returned. Switched back to brand name and got positive results. The generic definitely did not work.
SW
I have taken Norvasc for 15 years without any problems. The new generic Amlodipine Besylate caused me to have every side effect listed, headache, dizziness, nausea and swelling of the feet and ankles. Unfortunately since there is now a generic available the cost of Norvasc is sky high.
M Z
I had been on Dyazide and Norvasc for high blood pressure since 2002. In 2005 they switched me to the generic Dyazide. I started having problems right away. I would be dizzy and irritable and a tingling feeling in my hands.
The generic Dyazide did not control my blood pressure; my blood pressure started raising and after 5 months on generic Dyazide I ended up in the Emergency Room on Xmas Eve; my blood pressure was over 150/100, I had a terrible neck, head, and chest pain, I had trouble thinking.
After this I was switched to Cozaar. Recently they started sending me generic Norvasc and I asked my doctor to instruct the insurance company to send me the non-generic. Even if it costs me more, since the insurance will not pay for the difference in cost, I am not taking any risks. I already had a very bad experience with generic Dyazide.
Babs
Wow, I found this website after reading the MSNBC.Com article online today 10/12/07. The article was: “Report Questions generic antidepressants” Man was that an eye opener!!
My husband was initially started on bupropion ER 100mg, and then was switched to Wellbutrin SR 100mg, and then with his med increase he was switched to Budeprion XL 300mg. His life and our relationship has been in shambles ever since!!! He has been extremely irritable, moody, down right mean, somewhat psychotic, delusional, extremely agitated, obsessive thoughts, suicidal, irrational, made poor decisions, was overly confident and floated around with an inflated ego, and self esteem. His behaviors have been irrational, bizarre and down right ABNORMAL for him.
It escalated to the point the Psych MD put him on RISPERDAL which helped with the delusional thoughts and obsessions. This has been the worst experience imaginable!!! I have contacted Teva Pharm and informed them we’ll be on the bandwagon for a Class Action Suit when one comes about. The sad part of all this–my spouse’s behavior, actions and thoughts were changing and I never thought about it being the medication. Now that his mind is clearing-it’s obvious he was not aware of the changes and I was in denial. I hope something good comes out of all of this. Our next RX will be Brand only!!! Fortunately for us my INS will allow Brand for the higher tiered co pay.
CA
After taking Wellbutrin XL 300 mg for 4 months I was feeling like myself again: no depression, no suicidal thoughts, no desire for compulsive eating. After 2 weeks on the generic it ALL came back. All of it.
After another week I got my next refill for the brand name and threw out the remaining week of the generic. 3 days later, I was feeling back to normal. There is something wrong with this generic.
One side effect I have with the brand name is hand tremors – which is a small price to pay for not wanting to kill myself. Those went away with the generic and came back when I started back on the brand name. It’s not the same stuff.
HS
I’d taken Prozac successfully and with great results for almost 10 years, when I was switched to its generic (Fluoxetine) by my insurance company. I had an adverse reaction that was absolutely frightening – my skin started to get very hot and you could actually see a bright red rash working its way down my face to my neck and chest. The whites of my eyes looked as though they’d hemorrhaged; they were so red you could no longer see my iris.
I also experienced what I could only describe as heart palpitations along with a severe migraine. Fortunately, I was at work which has an exceptionally good healthcare center. I was given two shots of benadryl. I’ve never taken the generic again, and have never had those physical symptoms either. Please report this to the FDA!
DAS
I have mild congestive Heart failure and real bad edema with my left leg especially. I take 80mg Lasix twice a day. The brand name works quite well. Some of the generic furosemide seems to work but it seems to have a wide range of effectiveness from manufacturer to manufacturer.
However, the generic furosemide that my mail order pharmacy seems to do little or nothing. I may as well be taking chalk tablets. On this stuff I retained so much water that I would gain about 15-20 lbs or more and have shortness of breath. My legs would swell up badly. I have to keep a Lasix prescription at the local pharmacy and pay for it out of my own pocket to avoid problems.
JM
Generic Celexa, citalopram, does not work! Depression & anxiety returned after a few months; upped the dose and still not working.
Going back to brand name Lexapro (less expensive than Celexa).
AP
I began taking Wellbutrin XL after the SR version did not work well for me. I took XL for approximately 1 year. XL helped me to feel human again! For me, the despair and darkness were eased by XL.
Unfortunately, we are in the military (yes, you read that correctly). We had the rug pulled out from under us earlier this year – our orders were changed and we were forced to move 1 year early. I had no idea how long it would take for us to get settled and find new doctors in the new, remote area we would be going to. In light of that, I asked my military doctor for a written prescription so I could have it filled at a national chain pharmacy.
Military Treatment Facilities (military clinics and hospitals) will provide prescriptions to Active Duty members, Retirees, etc. I was able to obtain name brand Wellbutrin XL from them in a 3 month supply; with one refill. Unfortunately the military health insurance does not like to pay for such an expensive drug…it has become “non-formulary”. Due to this, I had to have special paperwork filled out to explain why I can’t tolerate any other anti-depressants and need XL. This is quite humiliating to say the least.
Once you move away from the Military Treatment Facility to a new region, your prescription becomes null and void – they are non-transferable. I knew the bottle of XL that I had would run out during the middle of our move across the country. I had no desire to deal with withdrawals while doing the sick & twisted relay race of driving a few hundred miles a day, checking into a hotel, and so on until you reach your destination. This is why I asked for a written prescription to be filled elsewhere.
Unfortunately, the military health insurance has a rule that say non-formulary drugs are $22/month; and they must substitute generics whenever possible. So I had to unexpectedly pay $66 for a 3-month supply of Budeprion. At the time I thought “at least I have a back-up”.
With all the insanity of our trip across the country I forgot to take one of my last few XL pills. Boy, did I feel it! Dizziness and irritability immediately set in. When I began taking Budeprion I noticed that it didn’t have the same effects of wiping away the despair & keeping the dark thoughts at bay. I’ve found that I can skip Budeprion pills left and right without any side effects. Now, I don’t see the point of even continuing with the last few pills I have.
I have become so afraid of going to the doctor that I have anxiety attacks. There are no Military Treatment Facilities where I currently live so I know that the only thing I will get from a civilian physician is generic Budeprion, and I now know that this doesn’t cut it. I tried many, many anti-depressants before I began Wellbutrin XL so I already know that those won’t do the job either. My current situation feels pretty darn hopeless.
KT
I work in a pharmacy and was hesitant to switch from the brand name Zoloft to the generic due to the problems our patients were having with the generic. I finally gave in when I could no longer afford the high copay for the brand name. What a mistake. I realized how badly I was feeling when I was contemplating the most painless way to die including jumping out of a hot air balloon. I have since switched back to the brand name Zoloft which I have been on for around 10 years and am feeling like my old self. I will have to continue paying the high copay charged by my insurance company, but I will be alive and well.
WD
– thought it was ME ! Took Wellbutrin for awhile and noticed the change when the generic version came out.
I also had the VERY SAME PROBLEM with ms-contin- msir 30mg, for chronic back pain.
I asked for a brand MSIR 30mg telling the pharmacist I would pay the difference, because they had switched to whomever made the cheapest generic each month all that did NOT equal the brand.,. NO ONE MAKES A BRAND MSIR 30MG-anymore. I guess Purdue is making more with oxycontiin/oxyir
Ed Dimen
I have been taking Paxil for nine years, initially 20mg and later 25mg CR. Last year I was switched to paroxetine generic and started to suffer discontinuation symptoms within a week or two. These symptoms are very specific and consist of a wave of feeling light headed with a concurrent buzzing sensation in my head; like FEELING blood flowing through the brain. When I was switched to Paxil CR these sensations stopped within a few days.
GMC
I was switched to Budeprion XL and had a recurrence of cluster headaches, which I had not suffered from for over two years. My doctor requested “brand name medically necessary”. Once I was on Wellbutrin XL again, the headaches ceased!
Budeprion is NOT the same as Wellbutrin! Budeprion also caused significant taste distortion. I feel fortunate that I can still get some coverage from my insurance for the brand name.
D
I had been taking Celexa for chronic major depression for about 2 years before the generic came out. I switched to the generic (citalopram) as soon as it was available because it was considerably cheaper.
I started getting horrible migraine-like headaches and my mood declined after a week or 2. The only thing that had changed in that time was the switch to generic. I went back to my doctor who was willing to write me a “No Generic” prescription. After returning to the brand name, the headaches disappeared and my mood improved. I really believed that they would be the same and I’ve taken other generics without any problems, but this one didn’t work for me.
Joan
I have taken Allegra 180 for 8 years, then went to a generic 3 years ago that was long and peach colored. There seemed to be little difference.
Now they have changed the generic and it is oval and pink. The allergy headaches, swollen eyes, tiredness, weight gain, sneezing and coughing are all back. But the pharmacy says this is what there supplier has and cannot even get the old generic.
kr
I have taken the pain medication Oxycontin for about 10 years for serious chronic back pain, failed back surgery syndrome, fibromyalgia etc….I never had a problem being on the same dose for five years until my insurance said I have to have the generic brand.
I am here to tell you that is does not work the same; you feel like you have not taken your medication with bouts of severe pain, feelings of withdrawal and the pain cannot be described. Yet if you take extra you will not make it to the end of your cycle and get in trouble with your doc.
I think serious thought should go into investigating why these drugs do not metabolize or work the same way that the original does. It is not fair to people like me who are trying so hard to be treated for pain so I can have a small portion of my life and go to work, only to be scrutinized by drs who are terrified they will get into trouble. I need the medication I could not function without it. So let’s fix this generic problem.
Karen
Several years ago, my HMO switched me to generic Wellbutrin. I went through 3 days of SSRI withdrawal. By the end of those 3 days I couldn’t even sign my name. I even tried doubling my dose to stop the withdrawal, but was not successful. I am a pharmacist, and I was not expecting any problem with the change over to generic.
RC
MY EXPERIENCE IS WITH THYROID MEDICATION. MY DOCTOR EXPLAINED THAT NOT ALL MEDICATIONS ARE ABSORBED THE SAME. THE SOURCE OF THE GENERIC IS UNKNOWN, THEREFORE ONE TIME YOU MAY GET SYNTHROID AND THE NEXT MONTH IT COULD BE SOME OTHER BRAND. SINCE YOUR BODY TAKES A WHILE (ABOUT 6 WEEKS)TO REACT TO CHANGES IN THYROID MEDICATION CHANGING EACH MONTH CAN MAKE IT GO CRAZY. IT HAPPENED TO ME AND ALSO MY HAIR HAS THINNED, A LOT. IT’S NOW TAKING ABOUT A GALLON OF BLOOD TESTS AND HALF A YEAR TO FINALLY GET MY LEVEL BACK TO NORMAL!
Catherine Merchand
I take 4 mg Cardura for hypertension and I cannot take the generic brand. It doesn’t work. I get very symptomatic. Even increasing the generic 1 mg didn’t work.
However, what makes me angry is that the insurance companies punish you by inflicting an ancillary charge if you choose the brand medication over the generic. So you pay more than the regular tier price than if there were no generic brand available.
Mainely
I made it clear to my doctor a few years back that the generic brand for Xanax does not work effectively. It is at best 50% effective. I first realized how poorly it worked about 3 years ago when I was given alprazolam in the place of Xanax. I noticed the different shape of the pill and asked if it was correct and the pharmacy told me it was exactly the same medication in a different design.
My panic attacks came back and I kept thinking I had missed a dosage or simply was having a rougher time. After 3 refills over 3 months and another visit to the doctor I asked him if he had ever heard a patient complain before and he had. Anyway, I switched back to Xanax only and it made a noticeable difference. He would have to write Xanax only on the prescription or they’d give me alprazolam.
However, my insurance company recently stopped allowing this and now I can only take alprazolam. I’m dealing with it and having anxiety/mental health issues. My guess is that the pharmacy/insurance company views any complaint about a difference as a symptom of my problem and not a problem with the medication. Yet, I can assure you they are incorrect.
mp
Recently went to 10mg generic Ambien from 10mg brand name. Effectiveness is reduced as I usually wake up every night around 3:00AM
now. Have to take another half dose to make it through the rest of the night. I think the potency of the generic medication is not at the level of the original brand medication.
Jim S.
My partner has taken first Wellbutrin, then Teva buproprion SR150 generic, for several years as a treatment for depression. Last year, he was prescribed a “proton pump inhibitor” antacid to control reflux. Within 48 hours, he had an extreme emotional reaction–crying, panic, etc.
Because the emotional response was so directly connected to this new antacid, he immediately stopped it. His emotional state returned quickly to normal. He has not taken anything but “tums” since.
We never considered the mechanism that might have caused this interaction, but on hearing the program on NPR this a.m., I suspect now that the blocking of stomach acid either prevented or accelerated the dissolving of the buproprion tablets.
Laura
I was on 150 mg of Wellbutrin XL for 7 months. It worked very well but I began to feel that I needed a higher dose as the depression and mood swings were coming back. My doctor prescribed 300 mg of Wellbutrin XL and the pharmacy issued the generic Budeproprion instead. I thought nothing of it other than that I was happy I only had to pay $10! Within 24 hours, I knew something was very, very wrong. I was seized by severe suicidal impulses, I was crying hysterically and completely lost control. I don’t know how they make this “medicine” but it was very harmful to me and I will never allow it in my body again.
RMM
I was switched from Loestrin 120 to a generic. I had breakthrough bleeding for 2 weeks, PMS and severe cramps.
I requested to be put back on the name brand and after 3 days no more symptoms… it is entirely possible people could get pregnant on this stuff.
I think insurance companies should be sued for forcing people to go to generics. I have a higher co-pay if I insist on the name brand when there is a generic for it. I dont necessarily think that is fair, but it is more reasonable than just arbitrarily switching someone to a generic without any choice.
A. Marks
Yeah! NPR finally reported problems with generic Wellbutrin today… Now what about generic Zoloft?! I filled a Zoloft prescription with the generic (turns out mine was made by Teva Pharmaceuticals), thought nothing of it, but my mood became increasingly unstable… I got increasingly revved up and manic and irritable–just as one would imagine if you went cold turkey of a drug you are NEVER SUPPOSED to stop abruptly (note: I also take Wellbutrin, and think the revved up feeling was the lack of balance between the two drugs).
Finally, about 3 weeks in it dawned on me “Wow, this feels like a whole lot of Wellbutrin and not a lot of Zoloft.” I went back to brand name and in a short period was fine.
I held on to the remainder of my generic prescription and would LOVE to submit them to a lab for testing as I have NO DOUBT they will come up faulty.
Great for NPR to discuss the problems with generic Wellbutrin–now let’s move on to Zoloft and probably all the rest.
Steve T.
I received a generic substitute for Prozac earlier in 2007. I noticed the generic was really big, 2 times larger than the normal Prozac pill size. I took the generic for three weeks. It did not work for me. I had a tough time of it with the return of symptoms for about 2 months before getting stabilized on original Prozac. I never want to experience the return of symptoms. My prescription now reads no generic substitutes.
JE
I took generic Prozac for awhile and was right back to square one with panic attacks, etc. Only the brand name Prozac works for me. I pay more and that’s not right.
RC
I have been taking oxycontin for years for chronic pain. I had surgery four years ago and as a result I have a lot of nerve damage. I take 40 mg twice a day. When this drug finally went generic, my prescription drug company would only pay for the generic. I noticed right away that something was wrong. I had breakthrough pain immediately. The medication did not last 12 hours like the oxycontin. If I got 8 hours out of it I was lucky. I went back to the drugstore and they told me that the generic was exactly the same and that there should be no difference. I constantly had pain as well as withdrawals and, as I am sure those who take this medication know, the doctor prescribes exactly the amount you need and there are no extras to take for the breakthrough pain. It is supposed to last the 12 hours. It was never a problem before. The generic was oxycondone (TEVA) 12 hour release.
After dealing with this for several months, I finally went back to my doctor and explained what was happening. He now prescribes only the original oxycontin, and I had to jump through some hoops with the insurance company, but they now pay for oxycontin and I no longer take the generic brand. I don’t care what any tells you, the generic does not work the same. There is something wrong with the time release. You get too much in your body when you first take it, then it no longer works after 8 hours. It does not last the 12 hours. I am very surprised that there haven’t been more complaints. Maybe people are like me and most were able to go back to the original oxycontin. I feel for those who still have to use the generic brand because their insurance companies will not pay for the original brand.
Carol F
Both me and my son had problems with generics. He has hormone problems due to brain surgery and generic DDAVP did not work at all. He has to use the brand name. I had problems with generic Mobic. One generic from one lab was ok, but the mail order pharmacy we are required to use sent a different generic. It was like I wasn’t taking any medication at all. The pain that was gone with the other medication came back, and I couldn’t walk. When I complained to the mail order company (Caremark), they told me it was the same. But how could it be the same if it didn’t relieve the pain? I switched back to the other generic at CVS and had to pay a higher amount.
Patti Lisonbee
I have also been on Wellbutrin for many years and when the generic came along I was willing to try it as the cost savings were significant. However I was concerned if it would work the same as the name brand. The reasons for my concern were twofold. One, I had tried a generic for birth control a few years back, and I had a severe reaction in extremely painful breasts. The pharmacist assured me it couldn’t be the generic as it was “identical”. But I asked to switch back after two weeks of pain and the pain immediately stopped! The second reason I had concerns was I was a pharmaceutical rep for a veterinary distributor, which means I represented multiple lines of drugs, most the same as human drugs. I constantly had doctors switch back to name brand when the animals didn’t respond to the generics the same as the name brand. If an animal is responding differently, it’s not because it knows you switched it to a generic!
I too suffered a difference with the Wellbutrin XL generic. I was on it for about three weeks and noticed my concentration had dropped, I had the depression come back, and I also experienced the nausea each morning I took it. As a pharmaceutical rep, I found out that yes, the main ingredient has to pass FDA inspection within a range of the name brand, but the binding ingredients were dependent upon the generic manufacturer–tthe explanation of the generic XL dissolving more quickly from Consumer Labs makes a lot of sense with the reactions I encountered. Obviously I went back to the name brand Wellbutrin XL!
JS
I knew it! I’ve been taking Wellbutrin xl for three years , with good results. This spring, my insurance switched me to the generic version. Within a week I was moody, depressed, angry, couldn’t concentrate or act. A total wreck. After two months of fighting with the insurance, and changing pharmacies, my doctor got me switched back to the original. It took several weeks to get back to normal.
Mickey Lane
My experience with generics has been dismal. My thyroid med was changed to generic and my numbers went up to 7.5. As soon as I got back on Levoxyl they came down.
Same thing with Prozac. The generic did nothing.
Pharmacy tried to change my lotrel to a generic and before the month was up my blood pressure was not regulated. It took the dr over 4 months to find the right combination of drugs to control my bp so you can imagine how I felt when this happened.
I have NO faith in the FDA. I feel it is just like other government agencies that are run to please drug companies, or return favors etc.
This is a terrible situation when drug companies are allowed to play with our health and well-being.
M.K.
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/21142869/
I’m pissed! I just now found this information! I thought the depression was coming back full force but my experiences since being on the generic are exactly the same as what’s been described in these comments. I’va had severe depression for 20 years. Finally Wellbutrin XL came along and I got a life back. A new job and new insurance forced me onto the generic Budeprion XL 300mg. I’ve gained weight, my sex drive is gone, suicidal thoughts have returned as well as the depression that keeps me in bed for days at a time. I’m going back to the brand name no matter what it takes, this isn’t worth it.
KR
About 2 years ago my doctor prescribed 20mg of Celexa for anxiety and depression. All was well for awhile until United Health Care would not cover it anymore due to a generic brand being out. So I tried the generic and it affected me in the totally opposite of what it should have. The anxiety was awful, couldn’t sleep at night and felt like I was taking a medicine for more energy. Was awful, so I contacted my insurance company and they would not not cover the other due to the generic regardless if the generic affected me that way or not. So I’m back to paying full price for the real Celexa.
sw
generics are the same. the other added ingrediants are not the main ingrediants. if you truly have problems with the generic most insurance companies will charge the higher tier. so pay it! if you don’t want to be sick pay the bill! before insurance had co-pays people paid for their medicine!
JEB
I was first prescribed Zoloft six years ago to treat severe postpartum depression and within one week it gave me my life back! I’ve been on Zoloft ever since. I have realized that it would have benefited me a lot sooner in my life. About a month ago when I last had my prescription filled, I was given the generic form. I was happy because I only had to spend $10 a month versus $40 a month (it adds up!). During the last few weeks, I found that I’ve been very touchy and snapping at people. I’ve made comments to people and then cried because I feel so bad that I said such things. It dawned on me recently that my mood swings could be related to taking the generic form, now I am convinced! I am going to speak to my doctor about this and insist with CVS Pharmacy that I get the “real” thing. Thank you, this site has been very helpful for me!
Katy
For months I have been struggling on generic Zoloft, after years of success on the real thing. I became so anxious and depressed recently that I had to go to the doctor. I had done some internet research and decided to go back to brand name Zoloft two weeks ago–the difference is incredible. I am already getting back to my ‘old self’. There is no doubt of this in my mind–I am self-aware enough to know that these generic tablets caused the problems 100%.
CBM
Please add me to the long list of people who, after years of doing well on Wellbutrin, did poorly on Budeprion. I recognized the source of the problem only after reading Joe and Terry’s article about it. In addition to lowered energy, “brain fog”, GERD and weight gain, I discovered, after going back to Wellbutrin, that my singing voice had also been impaired. I know two other musicians who have had much worse responses to Budeprion than mine, and who also have returned to the original drug, to great benefit.
mh
I was taking Verelan PM for several years without problem. I asked my doctor to let me try the generic of this medication to save some money. Unfortunately, it gave me a severe headache. All generic medications I have tried in the past have the same effect on me. There has to be something different about it that would cause this reaction.
L E Green
I was/have been taking name brand Xanax since 1992 (it’s now 2007). Company changed drug plans and they no longer would allow name brand. Generic caused break-through panic attacks and withdrawal–now I buy a week’s name brand supply at a time while trying to adjust to generic. My doctor sent in an appeal 3 times saying Xanax medically necessary; still no. The difference is 36 for 3 months supply for generic and over $800 for name brand. One doctor told me FDA says ok if 10 % difference in generic’s active ingredients; pharmacist told me up to 20% difference. Unbelievable and especially seeing how many others are having problems. It has caused my financial downfall and much angst (adding to already diagnosed anxiety disorder). My psychiatrist told me other people have problems with other anti-depressants/ anti-anxiety pills. Next step I understand is to take the insurance company to court. Anyone with any information out there? It seems criminal that this is allowed: if promised that generic drugs are exactly the same–and it’s not true–isn’t this deceptive and dangerous? Will FDA see this? Shall I write to representatives, senators and more? I’d love to know what steps are being taken to change this horrid situation.
Jan
I was maintained beautifully on Wellbutrin for 17 years after it saved my life. Within 3 weeks of switching to the generic form, I could not stop thoughts of suicide, obsession with fears, helplessness, etc. Nothing was happening in my life which could explain these feelings. Thank goodness I found this website and can go back to my doctor for the Wellbutrin. Affording it will be the problem.
L. Wilson
Short story: Wellbutrin 300 works for me. The generic doesn’t. The insurance company believes the FDA, so I had to do extra paperwork to buy the Wellbutrin without paying a $69.00 penalty.
DAS
My wife has been taking Coreg (Carvedilol-25 mg) for 10 years and doing well. Last week she was advised that a generic version of the drug was available. At the advice of the CVS pharmacist who insisted that the ingredients were the same since FDA approval….. Yada, Yada Yada, she went for the generic. Within 5 days, her blood pressure went from a 10-year average of 135/80 to 155/96, she had sore throat, pains in extremities, tiredness, feelings of irritation… (several of the side effects for carvedilol, which she had never had before). We went to the pharmacy and insisted on Coreg. Within 24 hours of taking name brand Carvedilol-Coreg, symptoms began to subside with a major improvement in the first day.
I have had personal experience working with Chinese manufacturers in the electronics industry. I am quite sure that the lack of quality control, need to drive costs down, and lack of regard for how the product affects the customer is true of the pharmaceutical industry as it is in the electronics industry. I hate to sound prejudiced, but it is a given fact that countries the likes of India, China, Vietnam, Mexico, etc have a completely different perspective of product quality and regard for the impact on the end consumer. In these countries, warrantees do not exist. You buy it, you own it. As a result, many native consumers in these countries only buy open box, operating items knowing that they have no recourse once they walk out the door. Knowing that this is the reality of day to day foreign environments, it is reasonable to see how this difference of quality and care for the consumer perspectives can easily invade the word of prescription drugs.
Joe and Terry, as a single person, I feel my voice cannot be heard, and quite frankly I’ve grown tired of all the stories of tainted imported food, toys, etc. In these products, effects are usually more evident and definable. In the prescription drug markets, as evidenced by this site alone, adverse symptoms or lack of effect of imported generic drugs are not as well defined or understood even by the medical professional which we trust, leading people to believe they are just imagining or having psychosomatic responses to the generics. As a group we have strength. I beseech Joe and Terry to help us band together to shed light on this matter such that we can have a voice with our elected official and have their focus shifted from the unimportant issues of who did what to whom to gain political posture to that of addressing the issues of imports that can be killing Americans.
DAS
MEA
I’ve been taking Wellbrtrin SR for many years. It brought immediate relief from severe clinical depression.
My drug plan requires that generics be provided whenever available. I was given the generic, Bupropion, starting about a year and a half ago.
My depression returned … gradually so that I didn’t realize the extent of the problem. Within about 4 months I was seriously depressed again. The depression itself made it difficult for me to contact my doctor to ask for help. [my specific symptoms can be provided if useful for your FDA correspondence.]
I was so depressed that it took me almost a year to gather the focus to explain my problems to my doctor. The doctor agreed that I was seriously depressed again and issued a prescription for the brand name drug.
Within about 6 weeks my depression has disappeared. The change in my attitude and energy level are amazing.
Thank you for your columns pointing out the impact of improperly formulated generics, and for providing space for individuals to comment about their reactions to generics.
Comments of others who have been transferred to generic Wellbutrin XL or SR were the key I needed to identify the cause of my problems and to take action. Without the information your column I’d probably still be depressed without any clue about either the cause or options for alleviating it.
best regards,
MEA
Dorothy Denison
I have taken Toprol XL 100 mg for mitral valve prolapse for 10 years – not one single problem. Walgreens substituted the generic drug (WITHOUT ASKING MY PERMISSION) and within 2 weeks I had a big dizzy spell, 10 days later I was woken up in the middle of the night with several heart palpitations that lasted two hours, and then again 7 days later it happened again. When I discovered the generic drug Metoprolol succinate extended release had been substituted as a generic I immediately got back on Toprol xl with no further problems – there is definitely a problem with this drug.
MB
I’ve been taking budeprion SR 150 for 3 weeks now to quit smoking and I have trouble doing anything. The jitters, panic attacks, inability to sleep, night sweats, depression, feeling of hopelessness and the dizziness has basically put my great life on hold. About two weeks ago while driving home on the turnpike I began to have a worried feeling… This soon turned into a full blown panic attack with dizziness at 65 MPH. I was forced to pull over and sit in my car… then I began to cry… thinking, what is wrong with me? AM I going crazy? Not getting any relief, I got out of my car and sat on the side of the turnpike as the giant trucks and cars went flying by. I was forced to lie down in a drainage ditch along the road and covered my ears to calm myself down because I had uncontrolable thougths of running into the traffic. I was so confused about what was happening to me. I actually kept visualizing myself running in front of a semi truck and it seriously freaked me out. Finally, I was calm enough to enter my car and travel the remaining 2 miles home which was very difficult.
Two weeks ago on a Saturday morning, I woke up and began to watch TV but I couldn’t because the TV and room were spinning clockwise. It took 20 minutes for it to stop and once I got out of bed, I stumbled around like I was drunk…. For the past two weeks, panic attacks, mild and severe have affected me so much I am afraid to get behind the wheel. Today was the worst, a severe panic attack on the freeway again!! So bad I began to cry as I was looking to exit. Later in the day, I stopped at the mall for lunch, feeling anxious during the drive there, I was relieved to exit car to enter the mall. While eating, I started to get that worried feeling again… so I finished, got up and decided to look around in the mall to try to get my mind off of how I was feeling. Two minutes walking time, the mall floor looked as if it were coming up, floating… Once again, I started to get dizzy and had to sit down. This happened twice, and I am 15 minutes from work where I have a meeting in 20 minutes and I am an hour from home. Once I was able to get back to work, where I missed my meeting, I spoke to a friend and asked for a ride home. I told him I wasn’t feeling well, was getting dizzy.
That was 3 hrs ago and now I am writting this to all of you. Something is so wrong with that medicine. I think the dizziness causes the panic attacts while driving…. I frighten myself because I cannot pull over. I get the feeling I am going to crash or run into the walls or other cars. My vision gets blurry, dizziness sets in and then the final PANIC ATTACK kicks your butt. But on the side streets or back roads, the panic attacks aren’t as bad… more controlled because I know I can pull into someone’s driveway or pull over in a parking lot. That is my thought anyway.
I am 40 years old and never had a thought of suicide ever, never depressed, happy go lucky person in perfect health and have a motocycle and sports car where high speeds mean nothing. Now I feel like a crazy person, afraid to leave my house.
I’ve taken my last BUDEPRION SR 150 yesterday at 6pm… Oh I have more, but they are not going in this body. I advise anyone who is taking this medicine to be careful with it. Don’t take any of the listed side effects lightly. Talk to your doctor…this MEDICINE needs to get off the market.
One more thing!! This is the second time I used it. The first time was for 3 months to quit smoking and it worked well but it wasn’t the generic… it was the real deal and I had no side effects at all. In fact, I became really funny to my freinds…..This generic stuff is not the same no matter how many case studies they do and no matter what the FDA reports. This stuff almost killed me or made me kill myself…
Keep in mind, you are not crazy… If this stuff is making you feel like this, please speak to your doctor….. Good luck to all of you and thank you for this site!!
Mike
Debbie
I have never had a problem with generics except for when they switched my Wellbutrin XL 300 mg to Budeprion XL. It didn’t seem to work for me and gave me horrible headaches. My insurance won’t cover it at all and I’m stuck paying it out of pocket, but it’s worth it for my quality of life. I’ve filed a report with the FDA. This generic is not bioquivalent.
LMT
I was prescribed Wellbutrin XL 150 mg a year ago and have taken 1 each day in the am. My new insurance plan does not cover the Wellbutrin XL, so I had to start taking the generic Bupropion SR a couple days ago. The new Rx is for 150 mg, 1 tab twice daily, because it is not extended release. I take the first one around 8 am, and the first day I became very dizzy, shaky and hot flashes around 4:30-5:00 pm. I took the 2nd dose and felt fine within half an hour. I have never experienced any side effects from Wellbutrin, so I wasn’t sure if it was related. The 2nd day it happened again at the same time, so now I am wondering if I am experiencing some kind of withdrawal as the new Rx is not the extended release and I just need to take the 2nd one before I feel like that. I have also had terrible night sweats the past 2 nights and had to get up to change my shirt, as it was soaked. When I looked online and started to read all the posts, I realized how different the generic really is from the name brand. I would gladly pay extra if my insurance covered the Wellbutrin XL, but only the generic is covered, so I will wait this out and hopefully my body will adjust to the changes.
mjc
It has been 4 days since I was switched from brand name Zoloft to the generic. It feels as though I have been going through a dosage change even though dosage remains the same. In fact, I am feeling so disoriented that I’m going back to the doctor this week to have the brand name re-prescribed.
NV
While there are lots of comments on other scripts, it seems that most complaints are centered around Wellbutrin XL. I’d love to hear suggestions on how to pressure FDA or Insurance Commisioners to consider investigation or further study.
I am not on Wellbutrin for depression. My neurologist actually wrote an interesting note on my file that my GP commented on, “patient is clearly not suffering from depression”. I am on it for migraine headaches.
I got the same, “they are the same drug” story from my insurance company and pharmacist. I tried it. I am all for saving everyone some money.
I started grinding my teeth at night from being anxious. I developed oral ulcerations almost immediately (which is a very rare, known side-effect) that I never experienced in the five years that I took the brand. I was short with friends and co-workers, etc. The reason that I stated before that I was not using this for depression is because I believe that one of the side effects for me WAS a sort of depression, or at least the closest thing that I can imagine as depression. I had an overall feeling of irritation and sleepiness that was caused by this generic. It happened every time. I know that this can’t be proved, but the ulcers sure can!
I made the pharmacy refill it with brand before I even finished the first month.
I tried it again after a few months to see if maybe it was okay, as I have noticed varying side effects from the brand, too, such as insomnia, from one bottle to the next. Immediately, I experienced the same batch of side-effects as before. I tried it several times before deciding that I could just not tolerate the generic.
My biggest issue is that my insurance company charges me so much for the brand. I would be willing to use generic, but I do not believe it is a quality product. I know there is a lot of injustice in the world, but is it possible to get any help on this? Does anyone know a process?
Charlene
My son starting taking Zoloft (Liquid Form) 3 years ago for his panic attacks. He suffered from panic attacks ever since he was 3 years old. Zoloft made his life so much better. He was doing great in school, sports and socially. He was full of life with no more fear for unknown reasons. The insurance switched him to generic two months ago. At first, he slowly started to go downhill. Now he can’t even attend school and his sports activities. He cries and cries and wants to be better. I too, his mom, realized too late that the generic could be the cause. As of today, he is back on Zoloft, and I hope with all my heart that my son will be happy again!!!
JD
I’ve been on Wellbutrin XL for several years, very happy with the effects. For the second time in 6 months I’ve tried the generic Wellbutrin XL. I have a new insurance company that won’t cover the brand name, which is considerably more expensive.
The pharmacist suggested that my first experience with Budeprion XL was maybe “all in my head,” so I thought I’d try the generic again. That was less than a week ago, and I’m starting to feel really bad — hopelessness and crankiness and a little panic. What do we have to do to get the insurance companies to listen to us?
Georgette
I began taking Wellbutrin XL 150 and had been on it for about a month, doing very well. I was energetic and the drug was effective at reducing depressive episodes. I then was bumped up to the 300 mg dosage, but when I picked up the rx from the pharmacy it was filled with the generic version. I’d been taking the generic for about 1.5 weeks and just had my doc re-write the rx for name brand only, no substitutions. (Interestingly, the pharmacy tried to give me generic again last night when I went to pick up the meds, and I had to argue with them to get Wellbutrin even though the script was clearly for name brand only.)
The generic 300 mg were not nearly as effective as the name brand Wellbutrin XL 150 mg — even though they were ostensibly twice the dosage. They didn’t have any effectiveness in regard to reducing dark moods, they made me drowsy and lethargic all day, and I had a constant low-grade headache and an odd metallic taste in my mouth.
Today is my first morning back on the name brand Wellbutrin XL 300 and I am so glad to not be using the generic any more. I can feel the Wellbutrin running through my system, and am noticing a certain initial “brain buzz” this morning just like when I first started taking it, an effect that the generic did not have — I believe it is my body getting acclimated to a new chemical. It is very clear to me that Wellbutrin and the generic are not at all the same medication.
DDH
I have been taking Toprol XL for a couple of years for PVC’s. While I understand I won’t die from this condition, it does interfere with work and sleep. When your heart seems to stop, it is weird, no matter what the condition. My doctor has prescribed Toprol XL at smaller levels to which I have leveled off at 200 mg with all symptoms in check.
Recently my pharmacist announced the change to the generic metoprolol 200 mg. Within about one week, symptoms began returning. I mentioned it to my doctor and I said I’d give it another month and see but that my doctor would write a script for just Toprol if necessary. Today (a month later) I spoke with my pharmacy, which has just said that I’m probably experiencing “the placebo effect.” It’s in my mind. That was upsetting. But, after reading concerns on the internet, I am more apt to believe that it is the time release agent that is not working for me. That would explain the intermittance I am experiencing.
I will ask my doctor for a prescription for just Toprol XL 200 mg and pay the MUCH higher copay. (But I will save some by purchasing 3 mo. by mail.) Thank you for this opportunity and I hope these experiences influence drug makers to be more diligent to manufacture generics more precisely.
Lisa
Wellbutrin XL generic. Awful nausea, vomiting, bile constantly. Bad reaction must be to whatever they are “mixing” the drug with. I am not waiting to find out if it affects my depression or not. I am going back to brand name Wellbutrin XL. This is very bad. Insurance required I use this.
EJ
I had been taking Norvasc for my blood pressure for about 3 years with no real problems. When the generic was approved, my insurance insisted that only generic be used. After about 6 months on the generic, I began to have bouts of severe chills/fever with muscle aches and joint pain. This was a familliar reaction to me, as several years ago, while on another calcium channel blocker bp med, I had the same reactions. At that time it took several months to find the cause. After that I stopped taking bp meds but was persuaded by my gp to try again. Now I can’t get my insurance to approve the brand, so I’m going to have to either pay the high price for the Norvasc or take my chances with my bp.
Kerry
I’m so glad I ran across this website. I was prescribed Wellbutrin XL 300 mg. and I was finally functioning normally. I was doing so well on the Wellbutrin xl, and all of a sudden my refill was the generic form. I just assumed it was the same and started taking it. These last few weeks have been pure hell. From the second day I didn’t feel right, but I didn’t think it could be the budeprion. I have never felt such an overwhelming sense of doom in my life. By day 10 I didn’t know if I wanted to live anymore, and if I did, I’d be alone, for my behavior was so outrageous it scared everyone (my husband and children) including myself. I have somehow managed to control the desperation, but not the severe mood swings and crying. If I didn’t come across this website I would have had no hope. It’s Friday so I couldn’t get ahold of my physician yet, I’ll have to wait until Monday but I have hope!
Thank you
Joseph J. kafka
Generic Valium (diazepam) has no effect at all for me. Only the original “Valium” works.
Generic Klonopin (clonazepam) has no effect at all for me. Only the original Klonopin works.
Generic Ambien (zolpidem) has no effect at all for me. Only the original “Ambien” works.
Folks, something is VERY, VERY VERY WRONG here.
Javahar Vallab
I have fungus on my hand nails. Do you have any suggestions?
Felicia Plunkett
Our doctor prescribed my 9-year-old son Loratadine, which is an equivelant to Claritin for his allergies. He was to take it daily, year-round. Instead, he only took it as needed, until he had a very bad allergy attack. Then I had him take it every night for a week. After he had taken it for one week, he had his very first seizure. He collapsed, and stopped breathing.
The hospital ran several tests, which all came back normal. He had no other illnesses, and didn’t take any other medications. The doctors couldn’t tell me what caused his seizures. I found it odd that he had a seizure after taking Claritin for a week, so I did some research on the internet. Every time I mentioned Claritin to any of the doctors, even our pharmacist, they denied any connection, but I learned differently.
According to the FDA, seizures are possible, though rare, but they can also cause many other health issues. I was irate! My son nearly died in my arms, and it seemed as if no one was listening to my concerns. That’s when I decided to take action and speak out. I am determined to stay active on this issue in order to prevent this from happening to anyone else!
Sheryl Martin
I obtained a prescription for Atenolol/Chlor 50/25 recently where this particular generic came from Mylan Pharmaceuticals. I found out from Mylan Pharmaceuticals that my previous prescription came from Teva Pharmaceuticals based on the tablet imprint. The present prescription has caused numerous side effects that I did not have with any previous prescriptions with the same dosage. I have filed an adverse event complaint with Mylan and am interested to see what their investigative testing shows.
Steve
I have been using Ambien for 2 years. I was switched to a generic form and since then I have not slept over 2 hours at a time. When I wake up I can’t go back to sleep. This generic stuff is awful and ought to be investigated! With the real Ambien I would sometimes wake up after 4 or 5 hours but was alway able to go back to sleep. This generic medication is for the birds! The cost savings isn’t worth the health costs! I will ask my doctor to prescribe as written at my next visit. Stay away from generics!
Jessica
I was just put back on Wellbutrin SR after being off of it for a few years. But due to some major changes my depression has started up again. When I went to pick up my prescrpition I found that it was generic Wellbutrin sr (Budeprion sr) and as soon as I started taking it I began to notice side effects that I didnt have on Wellbutrin perviously. I have been getting head aches and really bad stomach pains, as well as becoming incredibly tired, it seems like even less energy than before I was on the medication. My depression has not improved, and only seems to be getting worse. I am seeing my doctor on monday and am going to talk to her about this. (There is also a constant ringing in my ears.) No good.
CAP
I have been taking Toprol XL 50 mg since January when I was diagnosed with an ascending aortic aneurysm and continued on it after my aortic root replacement in March with NO problems. When I picked up my refill this month my pharmacy dispensed the generic Metoprolol Succinate ER. I have been taking it for 2 weeks and it is absolutely NOT the same. I have had a migraine type headache almost every day with blurred vision/sensitivity to light/aura (spots, wavy lines, or flashing lights) and nausea (about 12 hours after taking the medication). Last week I forgot to take it on Thursday and waited until my Friday evening dose and did NOT get the headache during the day on Friday. I saw my doctor today and I am switching back to the Toprol XL.
Julie
I am so glad I found this site. I have long had suspicions about generic drugs.
I recently got a prescription for penicillin, codeine, and also lorazepam to deal with a very painful tooth infection, all of which was given to me in generics by my provider MediCal.
I am familiar with the effects of the brand-name versions of these drugs from an earlier occasion, and I found that the generics didn’t do the job. I had to take the stuff by the fistful to get through the night, a dose that with the brand-name meds would have knocked me unconscious for a week.
MediCal is for low-income people and operates on a shoestring as is. Painful to imagine that on top of that they are maybe also being defrauded by the generics manufacturers.
I have also taken Prozac for many years, and at least my psychiatrist is aware of the generic version not working and prescribes brand-name weekly Prozac instead. There is no generic for that, so if you want real Prozac for less, ask your doctor to prescribe the weekly version for you too.
AF
I have been taking Ativan generic for a few years and recently noticed it was not working at all. I talked to my doctor and he said the standards are not the same between generics and brand name. For example, for a 1 mg pill, generics are allowed a window of .80 mg to 1.05 mg while brand name’s window is .95 to 1.10
I went back to brand name and everything is fine.
KM
I have been taking Wellbutrin XL for several years now, along with Zoloft. When they mandated that I take the generic Zoloft, I noticed no change from how I felt on the brand name. Naturally, when the generic Wellbutrin came onto the market a short while later, I was thrilled that I wouldn’t have to spend so much. Also, judging by the effectiveness of the generic Zoloft, I thought it was my lucky day. BOY WAS I WRONG!!
IMMEDIATELY (as in day 1) I felt the difference. I became depressed, withdrawn and extremely edgy. I was so weepy that the smallest thing made me cry. In fact, I felt that my depression had gotten worse than it was pre-meds! I might as well not have taken anything at all. I agree with other testimonies I have been reading when they say that it might as well have been a placebo. Totally useless!
TG
I just want to say that I am so happy and relieved to have found this website. I started taking Wellbutrin XL 300mg about one year ago and was delighted with the outcome. It took away my depression and gave me additional energy throughout the day.
My pharmacist suggested I go on the generic version about 8 weeks ago. One week after taking the generic I started falling back into my depression and experiencing extreme irritability. I thought the medication had just stopped working for me. I had no clue it could be due to the generic version.
Thank you so much for sharing all of your experiences. I am going back on the brand name version tomorrow!
sherriz
I have purchased Toprol XL for several years from the same pharmacy. This month, without informing me, they substituted my prescription with the generic version, Metoprolol. I called when I discovered the switch, only to be told it was the same medication, only a generic version. I agreed to try it for the month, but requested Toprol XL for future refills.
I tried the generic version for 7 days, during which time I experienced rapid heartbeat & pulse, headache in my temple area for 3 days, dizziness and chest/back sharp pains.
I called the pharmacy on day 7 requesting to be switched back to Toprol XL immediately and was told that I would have to call my doctor for a new prescription.
Needless to say, I was upset. I had to make the contacts to correct a problem that was caused by the pharmacy, which leads me to question how many customers (elderly) have prescriptions changed and are not aware of the change, and end up having medical problems that could lead to a bad outcome.
Doris Hannon
My husband recently had an oxygen machine delivered for his use. The delivery man warned me that if my husband’s nose becomes dry with the tube inserted DO NOT use Vaseline in his nose. He actually had a patient catch fire doing this. Fortunately the patient was not hurt.
Have you heard of this before?
Mrs. Doris Hannon
Downey, CA.
Ruth
I’ve been under 0.88 Synthroid medication for about four years. When I came to Fayetteville, my doctor and the pharmacy changed to the generic. I may say how in the world they can give a patient a medicine that is going to worsen symptons or have such side effects like anxiety? We really take a medicine to alleviate a problem we already have.
With the generic Levothyroxine I got anxiety, my heart beat was so high, my hands started to trembling so, and my upper lip too. I could not fall asleep at night, and a rash covered my skin from my neck to the bottom of my legs. Due to the rash, I wrongly went for allergy tests and medications. Hypothyroidsm went up to the next higher dose.
I went back to the brand name, and I did not have those problems anymore. I thought I was going nuts.
chrissy
i have been taking Wellbutrin XL for 5 years, and when my husband went to pick up my prescription last month, they gave him budeprion. I have been taking back the generic and switching it out if I picked it up, because I was worried about switching to the generic.
I decided to try it, and then found this site. My depression has been increasing daily, I don’t want to get off the couch, and have gained 10 pounds. Everyone has been asking me what’s wrong for a month, and I didn’t put two and two together until I started researching before I filled my script again.
I can’t believe that every pharmacy has been telling me that they are the same even when I protested. Budeprion should be taken off the market, and I’m happy to pay the $45 to get my life back. Something must be done about this.
D.D.
I have been taking Zoloft for several years now, but was changed to generic (tramadol) earlier this year. Ever since I have been taking them, I have had headaches every day, as well as tiredness and lethargy, which never goes away. I have tried 2 at a time and that does not work either.
Jill
I have dealt with depression for a large majority of my life. I’ve been on a couple of different antidepressants and after the birth of my daughter, I started on Wellbutrin XL 300 mgs. It was working wonderfully and I have been very happy with it.
A couple of weeks ago when I filled my prescription, I noticed that they gave me the generic brand of Wellbutrin XL, Budeprion. I wasn’t really sure why they gave me the generic, but I didn’t question it.
Within a few weeks, I was feeling hopeless, angry and in the last 10 days, I have gained 8 lbs without changing my diet. My hands and feet are swollen from water retention and I am very tired. The other day, after feeling depressed, I had my first encounter with feeling suicidal, which is not me.
At that point, I contacted a psychologist thinking that something was not right. She had asked me what had changed so recently in my life that I would have these feelings and the only thing I could think of was the fact I was now on generic Wellbutrin.
After realizing that, I scrolled through the internet to see if there was anything that could tell me if generic Wellbutrin was not as good as the name brand and then I came across this site.
Thank you! I’m glad I found this because instead of feeling this for a long period of time, I realized this within a few weeks of the switch and have called the pharmacy to change my prescription.
Jim M.
This is in reference to generic drugs vs. the brand drug being prescribed. My wife had been taking Celexa for quite awhile. Then the pharmacy started giving her the generic drug. After a couple weeks, she noticed she had become more irritable and short-tempered with outbursts of anger. The only thing that had changed was the switch from the standard Celexa to the generic, called Citalopram.
After a couple visits to the doctor, she finally discovered that after going back to the original prescription, the earlier symptoms had gone away.
Anyone who thinks generics are “the same thing” as brand names is not totally correct. SOME are okay, but they do NOT all produce the same results. As for myself, I can safely take the generic of Dilantin for siezures, and I have had no problems.
Jane Rosenbaum
My doctor put me on 300 mg Wellbutrin XL for depression. I had some left from a presciprtion 9 months earlier, so started on that. (It was the real thing, not the generic.) Within a week, I felt a little better. At 3 weeks, I actually was having positive thoughts about old situations that I had been crying over for years… and felt calmer and the weeping had stopped. I thought, it’s amazing, this is really working.
When I refilled my presciption, I was given the generic by TEVA. I didn’t even know there was a generic. I have slowly been going downhill this past week. This is 10 days into the generic. I am up and down emotionally all day. Really in a panic. I called my doctor this morning and he said to take another half of the generic because sometimes they aren’t as easily absorbed or that the medication inside is not as evenly distributed, and to take an extra pill for anxiety today and then just the additional half of the generic pill tomorrow and call to make an appointment to come into the office. I asked him if this could just be caused by the switch from the real one to the generic. He said he didn’t know, was trying to give me Sunday morning advice and to make an appointment to come in first thing in the week.
I spent the first few days feeling bad, blaming myself for thinking all these negative things. Then I realized that the up and down nature of the moods was unusual for me. Usually if I was sad, I was sad… not sad and in a panic at various times of the day and then fine at other times. Realized the blaming myself for the negative thoughts was part of the whole depression thing and then started to think about what had changed… that could be causing this and thought of the prescription being filled as a generic. Also, the cravings for food like donuts totally disappeared with the Wellbutrin XL and came back with the generic.
I think something is really wrong with this generic. I was thinking things would just be simpler if I ended it all… I was not having these thoughts prior to taking any medication, not having these thoughts while taking the Wellbutrin XL and they started when taking the generic. It’s frightening.
Does anyone do any studies when people kill themselves to investigate if they were on the generic version of a medication? It’s frightening for me because I have a tendency to blame myself for things and repress what I am really feeling. I had a long conversation with a friend yesterday and I never told her how I was feeling. I hope I can get back on the real Wellbutrin and I hope my insurance company will pay for it.
Bernie Kellogg
My cholesterol 6 months ago was 276. My Doctor gave me Lipotor, and I got terrible back pain and was very sleepy all the time. I would fall asleep at the wheel of my car waiting for the traffic light to change. I stopped the Lipotor and immediately returned to normal. I made up my mind to reduce the cholesterol on my own using information from your column. I started taking niacin, red yeast, fish oil, grape juice with vinegar, ginger, oatmeal, and blueberries, and stopped eating ice cream, crackers, bread and biscuits. In 6 months my cholesterol dropped 104 points!
Thank you so very much,
Bernie Kellogg
Leslie Dixon
Hello-
fyi Flagyl now approved for all stages of pregnancy.
Leslie Dixon
Pharmacist
Seattle, WA
Cary
I take Levoxyl for Hashimotos Thyroiditis. I was switched to the generic Levotyroxine. My well maintained disease which was in check began to take what I considered a nose dive: hair loss, depression, significant lethargy, weight gain (all symptomatic of the disease). My doctor attributed all of this to my busy life. I’m a full-time working mother of 5-year-old twin boys.
This went on for months. My numbers (TSH, t3, t4) began to rise. My GP, not well versed in my 5-year struggle to be properly medicated, could not understand why I was dissatisfied with a TSH of .8 (I was used to a .1 maintenance). I mentioned to her the feedback on generics. She told me not to believe everything I read on the internet, and again she reminded me that my life was busy and exercise was necessary.
The problem with that is my disease is insidious in its ability to obliterate my forward motion. Additionally, the symptom of depression began to rear its ugly head again. I went back to my specialist, an endocrinologist who took blood work. My TSH was a 7.0. She increased my dosage of the generic assuming I was not med compliant. My response to the increased dosage was sluggish at best. She prescribed name brand only and I have stopped losing my hair and I am again back on the road to recovery.
P.S. I no longer see my GP for disease management. I’m interviewing new Dr’s for my family and me.
JimC
I’ve been a long-time Wellbutrin user. It’s been a life-saver. Over the years, though, I’ve had insurers push me onto generics. Gotta save money for the investors, y’know.
Like others here, I’ve run afoul of the horrible junk put out by TEVA, namely Budeprion. TEVA’s product is downright dangerous, if not life-threatening. Taking Budeprion was like flipping a switch…in a very bad way. Luckily, I was able to get back onto brand Wellbutrin after that incident.
Recently, I had to move to another generic. This time it was Bupropion made by Eon labs. Not only do the pills look like brand Wellbutrin, the effect was nearly identical. I seriously recommend anyone having to use generics shop around until you find a pharmacy that carries the Eon Labs version. It might be marketed under the Sandoz name now, as Sandoz acquired Eon recently, I believe.
Unfortunately, my son, who also takes Wellbutrin, recently ended up with a prescription of Budeprion. I didn’t realize the switch until he had gone off to school. I’m crossing my fingers that he doesn’t suffer any problems.
Unfortunately, healthcare in the US is not about your health. It’s purely about profit. So, as long as pharmas and insurers run the show, dangerous situations like this are going to continue.
L Douglas
I wished to share my update since returning to brand Wellbutrin XL 300. As of 8/22/07 I had left the generic. My emotions improved in days. I did not want this to be wishful thinking. I can say as of today 9/13/07 my emotions are back to being very healthy. I had been having a lack of focus, annoyed with others without real reason, unable to lose weight even with working out and watching diet, suicidal thoughts, loss of hope. I had been suffering while taking the generic without knowing it was the generic. I plan to shout this to all I know and complain everywhere possible. Thank you to all who have shared and good health to you.
JV
I took the name brand Wellbutrin XL (300 mg) for at least two years until the generic became available a number of months ago. The first generic pills I received were yellow caplets, and they seemed to do a good enough job. In late August, though, I received a different type of generic, which were white tablets.
It was the start of the academic year and I was taking on several new roles as a young faculty member, so I figured my developing irritability, unrest, and nervousness were related to that. After 7-10 days, however, I found that the ever-present and growing well of anxiety and panic wouldn’t go away. Also, I started becoming weepy five or more times a day (any weepiness is unusual for me), even at the office. I found myself feeling resentful over little things and was angry at everyone. I also felt a distinct sense of hopelessness.
I am generally pretty thrifty and so I didn’t want to pay for the name brand at first, but this past weekend I realized that things were getting out of hand. My psychiatrist was very helpful and called in a prescription for the name brand Wellbutrin XL 300 right away. I started taking the name brand meds Monday morning and found a difference as early as late Monday afternoon. Now, four days later, I feel like myself again.
I always thought generics were the same as the name brand but now I’m realizing this isn’t true. This experience makes me wonder how many other less-effective medications I’ve been taking….
EMW
I am another person who has been taking Bupropion XL 300mg. I have been taking the med for about 6 weeks, and I have become increasingly depressed and have been withdrawn and having sucidal thoughts. Did not have this on Wellbutrin. MD suggested generic doesn’t deliver enough active ingredient to be effective. I also thought I was having a “breakthrough” depressive episode. I’m going back to the brand name and see if I feel better in a few weeks. The FDA should really do some testing on this med.
Tracy
My sister refilled her prescription on 8/29 with the TEVA Budeprion XL. She immediately had a reaction of sporadic muscle movements throughout her body. These tremors are still occuring. She is taking medicine to counter the tremors–but the problem remains for 2 weeks. The doctors think it is Chorea, but the tests were clean, MRI is clean, now they are waiting to see if it is Huntington disease.
How can the drug itself be tested to ensure a poison has not caused this reaction? Anyone else suffering out of the blue with these symptoms from this drug? By the way, no family history of any of these diseases they think she has–we are a very healthy family–she is 38 and cannot drive or work till this is resolved. Any help here would be GREATLY APPRECIATED.
Barbara
I’m so glad I found this site. My comments are about Wellbutrin XL 300 mg generic. I’ve been taking Wellbutrin for a number of years and XL since it first came out. I take 300 mg and 150 mg for a total of 450 mg/day. I’ve had generic versions of the 300 mg before, but the one I recently received from Wellpoint RX, the mail-order pharmacy my new insurance uses, is not very effective or not effective at all. I don’t know who manufactured the previous generics I’ve taken but the pills looked different and seemed to work ok. The 150 mg is ok–it’s the brand version.
After I got the medication from my new mail-order pharmacy, I started noticing that I was slipping into depression and my ADD was worsening. After about 3 weeks on the 300 mg generic and 150 mg brand version, I began to suspect the generic. Since I’m on 450 mg/day, I tried taking 3 of the 150 mg brand-version tablets and noticed a difference right away. The generic is from Anchen Pharmaceuticals.
Unfortunately my mail-order pharmacy does not carry any other generics for Wellbutrin nor do they carry the brand version.
EN
I took Zoloft for 15 years with excellent results in controlling depression & anxiety. When the generic version was made available, I switched. After about a month, I realized almost all of the S/S of depression & increased anxiety had returned. Even though I am a mental health counselor myself now, I was miserable and unable to bring myself out of the depression. After two months of misery, my physician agreed to increase the generic prescription by 25 mg, and the depression & anxiety quickly lifted. It appears that the dosage of name brand Zoloft versus the generic is not always the same to everyone’s body.
Paula J
I was excited to learn when had my medication refilled last Friday that there is now a generic Toprol XL because I knew it would save me a lot of money with the insurance drug plan I have. Now that I have been taking it a couple of days I wish someone would take the generic back off the market. I have bouts of tachycardia, atrial fibrilation, and severe PVC’s and PAC’s which have been controlled with Toprol XL for years, now it is like I’m not taking anything. The generic does not work like the name brand Toprol XL.
Because of the drug plan I have, now that there is a generic form it will cost me more than I can afford to buy the name brand because it is no longer a preferred drug. Now I don’t know what to do because I have tried other beta blockers and they didn’t help me. The only thing that has ever helped me was Toprol XL.
therese P
I have been taking Budeprion XL 300 mg since April 2007 for depression. This medicine seems to work great for me, but I need to know if anyone else has experienced the following symptoms with this drug.
A couple weeks ago I got a refill of the medication, and I immediately started having the follow side effects: at first, to get to sleep I had to rub my legs together as fast as I could to calm down; the next day I had involuntary movements all over my body. I can not be in large crowds with lot of noise and the movements start right away. Anxiety is really bad at night. I have to go for a speed walk (only three blocks) and then it takes me 20 mins to get back home. I can’t drive due to too much stimulation–I start to shake and my muscles contract.
My doctor sent me to a neurologist and we are doing tests for other things as this may not be related to the drug, but I wanted to see if anyone else is going through this. if you are please post info to this website. Thanks.
Donna Beers
In my experience generic drugs are not the same as brand and some are worse than others!
I was prescribed Prozac 20 mg for depression and PMDD (severe PMS) in 1999. It was working wonderfully. Went off Prozac to get pregnant. Returned to using Prozac after having a miscarriage and becoming very depressed again. This time it was the generic fluoxetine HCL (made by Barr Labs) because it was cheaper and mandated by my insurance company. I noticed my PMDD symptoms were worse than before but attributed it to changes due to age, etc and just decided to live with it. I stayed on the generic this time throughout a successful pregnancy, delivery and 18 months of breastfeeding with no signs of problems in my healthy infant who is now a healthy 3 three year old.
Last winter (2006) I was switched again to a generic from a different manufacture (Teva Pharma) again due to an insurance company preference for mail order and a reimbersment policy that practically mandates generics.
I started getting daily long-lasting severe migraine headaches immediately (which I had never experienced before). After a month and a half of this pain I went to my doctor who right away changed my prescription to brand medically necessary Prozac. The migraine headaches went away in 2 days! Unfortunatelly, my insurance company will not pay full price for brand and it cost me $134.00 per 1 month supply!
I went back to the Barr Labs generic to save money. It dose not work as well on my PMDD but at least I do not have daily migraines.
I feel that as long as the insurance companies refuse to believe what patients and doctors are reporting and refuse to pay for brand medically necessary prescriptions nothing will be done to solve this generic drug inferiority problem as they hold all the power!
Sincerely, Donna Beers
Sid Williams
Several months ago I switched over to generic Wellbutrin. Within two weeks I experienced the worst case of depression that I ever remember feeling. It was the most severe suicidal thoughts I had ever had. I had experienced suicidal thoughts before but never to the point that I actually wrote a letter to my therapist and sent it to an email that would not be found until after the fact. Fortunately I called him about 30 minutes later and he reminded me of a story we had talked about in the LA Times weeks earlier about a person who had actually gotten extremely depressed after switching to the generic.
I immediately called my pharmacist and got a refill of the regular Wellbutrin and within two days I was fine.
It is incredibly frightening to me that this is not being addressed. It simply is not the same drug.
pat
My doctor prescribed lisinopril bcause she said that I had high blood pressure, which I had never had before. The drug made me feel like my feet were glued to the floor. This was not a documented side effect. I complained and was told to double the dose. Then I felt worse and switched to Zestril, believing that the chalk in the generic was making me feel so bad. I was nauseous, sweaty, my face felt hot, and I was, shaky and depressed. It seemed to me that suicide was the only way out, since my doctor would not believe me.
I talked to a different doctor, and she didn’t think that Lisinopril would cause problems. I had quoted information from a book on drugs, which stated that lisinopril should not be first choice for a patient’s first time on blood pressure medicine. Your comments please.
All I need to know is how to withdraw from this miserable drug. I have cut it down to every other day. Now if it is okay to cut a pill in half, I can withdraw myself and then resume a health food diet and lose weight and feel better. My blood pressure is normal when measured at home. I had learned that if I took a teaspoon of salt I felt better. I have never salted any thing other than the occasional popcorn.
John Wells
My blood pressure was well controlled with the brand name Lotrel at 130/80 and I recently started generic Lotrel (Teva) and have noticed that my blood pressure is now very out of control–running at 170/100. I took another pill to decrease it and found that 2 hours later it was even higher at 180/110!! This is ridiculous and dangerous. The generic by Teva is not the same as brand name!! Absolutely not. I do not know what to do except to change my blood pressure medicine or pay out of pocket for the brand.
JM
I’ve taken Wellbutrin XL 300 mg for depression for about 5-6 years with tremendous success. On the drug I experienced virtually no symptoms of depression. A few months ago my insurance company switched me to the generic Budeprion XL 300 mg, which I was happy about because it’s so much cheaper.
I didn’t have any side effects so I thought everything was the same, but after about a month I had obvious symptoms of depression and after two months things were getting pretty bad. There were no stressful life events that coincided with the depression-–it just came out of nowhere.
A switch in health insurance resulted in my receiving the brand name Wellbutrin again, and within a week the depression was entirely gone again. I’ve been taking Wellbutrin again for about 3 months and the depression hasn’t resurfaced.
I should also mention that when I first began taking Wellbutrin I had some side effects, including the jitters and dry mouth, which ultimately went away. When I returned to Wellbutrin after a couple months on Budeprion I got the jitters and dry mouth again-–another reason to think that the Budeprion really wasn’t doing anything for me.
S. Holley
I too was switched from Wellbutrin XL 300 mg to the generic version about 6 months ago. I have not felt the same since, but since I was reassured that generic drugs were exactly the same, I decided that something was seriously wrong with me. Irritability, inability to concentrate, fatigue, hopelessness–all the things that practically went away when I was on Wellbutrin had returned due to this generic version NOT WORKING!!! IT SHOULD BE PULLED FROM THE MARKET!!!!!
Diane
I suggest people be careful of the new Sandoz Metoprolol Succinate ER 50mg. This product is defective. I have never experienced anything like it. Considering it is supposed to help my heart and it is only making it worse I am flabbergasted. If you have a choice, stick with Toprol. Even my pharmacist is hearing bad things about it. He also mentioned I can go to them tomorrow and exchange my prescription back to the name brand. I fully intend on doing just that.
A.M.
I have been taking Wellbutrin XL for over 5 years. My prescription insurance service switched me over to generic a couple a months ago. I started feeling depressed, crying at the drop of a hat everyday. I was becoming really depressed and had thoughts of hurting myself. I looked on the internet and saw a lot of posts of people with bad experiences on the generic. I switched back to the name brand, and have felt so much better.
I couldn’t believe how the generic made me feel like that. My husband took Ambien years ago and did fine. He has had the generic and it has caused bad side effects. I don’t understand how the companies can say it’s the same thing, yet there are probably thousands of people who have been affected by generics. Get this figured out!! It is causing major problems for people!!
TP
I was on Wellbutrin XL for over a year…and was doing great. My insurance company changed me to the generic version Budeprion XL earlier in the year. For months now, I’ve been depressed, moody, edgy, easily irritated, and sometimes just down right hateful. I’ve had migraines, anxiety attacks, and difficulty sleeping. Until my behavior was brought to my attention, I guess you’d say I was just in denial. I went to the doctor today and now have been changed to the generic Wellbutrin SR (which I will now take 2x a day)…as my insurance wants me to pay an outrageous price for the brand Wellbutrin XL. I’m hoping that the change in medication will get me back to my old self. How I’d love a good night’s sleep and not to get irritated at everything.
Judy
I couldn’t wait for Norvasc, a Calcium Channel Blocker B/P pill to become generic. I wanted to save money!! It came out a few months ago, I started taking it, and ended up in the hospital two weeks later!!! My blood pressure went up to 170/100, and would not come down.
First of all my doctor told me to stop the generic Norvasc and go back on the brand Norvasc, and then I had to go overnight to the hospital for a Cardiolite Stress Test, EKG’s, Chest X-ray, and multitudes of blood work. All the tests were normal, and my doctor told me to totally stop the generic Norvasc, and go back on the brand Norvasc.
I did, and the B/P came way down! However, I have been taking generic Ziac with absolutely no problems. My insurance negotiated with my employer to make a brand name medicine non-preferred if it comes out in generic Form. Sixty dollars was bad enough for the brand Norvasc for 90 days, but as of 2 weeks ago when I ordered Norvasc again, it was now considered non-preferred and would cost me $100 for 90 days!!!
I feel I have been penalized because I had a severe problem with the generic Norvasc, and cannot take it. I am now appealing this with the mail order drug company; if anything, I want them to know how upset I am about this. I told my doctor that I might have to change B/P pills, even though I’ve tried doing this in the past, and Ziac and Norvasc are the only pills that keep my B/P down, without bad side affects, or adverse reactions! Now I’m hearing most if not all generics are coming from China with non-regulation of their drugs!!!
Thank you. Judy
Kim
After reading all of these comments, my past year finally makes sense to me. I have been taking Welbutrin 300XL for the past three years. Last year, however, I was switched to the generic form Budeprion. I had many changes in my life right around the same time, so it was confusing to me at first knowing what exactly was causing the instability in my life.
When my meds were switched to the generic form, my depression was extreme, anxiety very high (I had never experienced anxiety before with my depression), my feelings of self worth were at an all time low, I felt like everyone was against me. I couldn’t figure out what was going on. I thought that the medication no longer worked for me.
So, I went to my doctor to see about a different from of depression medication, and she now fills out my Welbutrin prescription as needing the original brand, no generic form. I have been back on Welbutrin XL now for the past four months and feel great. Even though I have to pay $90 every three months as opposed to $30, to me it’s worth the stability it gives me.
This generic drug did more damage than help for me. Has it been proven to help anyone? This website was very alarming for me to read, I had no idea others were going through what I went through.
DR
I had been taking Zoloft for 5 years, only 25mg per day for fibromyalgia and depression. It worked great. Since my insurance company switched me to the generic several months ago (my doctor ran out of Zoloft samples), I have been very drowsy and exhausted all day and the depression has crept back into my life. There is a difference!
W Cline
I had taken Toprol 25 for about 3 years and got switched to the generic version per the pharmacy. About 4 weeks later, my heart rate was up enough to make me feel sick. I started having chest discomfort, went to my doctor and scheduled all the necessary tests, and switched back to REAL Toprol. And even before my first appointment I started feeling better, after 7 days I was back to normal! Metoprolol is NOT the same as Toprol.
Pat C.
Thank you to all who shared experiences with the generic versions of Wellbutrin! I’ve felt awful for the past two weeks or so, or about a week after I switched to the generic. I tried a generic version before when they first came out, and told my doctor back then it did not help me. He said to stick with the brand-name, but when my co-pay went up July 1, my pharmacist urged me to try a generic again. She assured me the generic and brand-name are “exactly the same.”
I’ve been tired and depressed, drowsy during the day but awake all night. As soon as I get home from work, I lie on the sofa and stare at the TV. Doesn’t matter what’s on. My house is a mess, I don’t go out, I don’t return phone calls. I’m hungry all the time but nothing satisfies.
I wondered if it could be the meds, so I searched the Web for info regarding generic vs. name-brand drugs and found this site. I’m truly sorry others are going through this too but so grateful you were willing to share your stories. I’m going back on the name-brand no matter how much I have to pay.
SW
I am currently taking a generic of Paxil. I’ve gradually noticed strange symptoms that have started appearing without explanation. These include “fogginess” in the morning and feeling as though I never get enough sleep, feeling dizzy at times, and short-term memory problems. Recently, I changed pharmacies and received yet another generic of the same drug. The symptoms intensified. I am currently being tested for other possible medical reasons, but in the meantime, I am gradually weaning myself off of the drug. Each night I do not take the generic leaves me fairly symptom-free in the morning. My wife and I are starting to suspect this may be the cause, as otherwise I am in excellent health.
NEC
I had a terrible experience with OMEPRAZOLE (a generic version of Prilosec). I had taken this medication for at least three months without any problem. However, when I had the prescription refill I began to run a low-grade fever and had flu-like symptoms evey night. The next morning I would feel ok. It took several days to figure out that the Omeprazole was causing it.
I stopped the medication for four days and all symptoms went away. I took another pill on the fifth day and within six hours all symptoms returned with an even higher fever. So, I stopped the medication again this time for nine days and then tried it one more time to be absolutely sure it was causing the problem. Again, within 6 hours all the symptons returned and worse than ever before with a 101.4 temperature.
Needless to say I never took any more. However, it took several months to get over the after-effects, which consisted of very low blood pressure, weakness, dizziness, etc. On the advice of my doctor I had to stop all blood pressure medications that I had taken for years to control the blood pressure. I filed a report with the drug manufacturer and the FDA. It is now months later and I have not heard a word from either one. Is it possible I just developed an allergy to this medication? I honestly believe one more dose would have killed me.
H. Keith
I was put on Toprol XL 25. It is great, and I felt normal and could do my normal day-to-day activities with my children. Recently my doctor put me on the generic Metoprolol. I thought that it would be the same, but boy was I in for a suprise. It made me so sick to my stomach that I actually started vomiting, and I had headaches, felt very dizzy and faint. Oh yeah, and had major anxiety. I would not recommend this generic medication to anyone. I right away got back on Toprol XL and I feel great again.
vp
I am so relieved to have found the comments on this website. I have taken Wellbutrin for about 6 1/2 years. I addressed most of my depression issues with minimal side effects. I still struggled with motivation sometimes, but didn’t have the crying spells, rage or self-hatred.
About 2 months ago – maybe a little longer – I started receiving the generic version. I didn’t think anything of it because, afterall, the FDA says its exactly the same drug. I started feeling a little less motivated and maybe more anxious – but attributed some of that to changes in my life.
However, in the last 4 weeks I have seen a severe deterioation. My family has not seen me this depressed since well before I was on ANY medication. Its almost like I’m taking nothing.
I thought I was a crazy – or maybe well on my way there. Now, it appears it might just be this change in meds. I have samples of the Wellbutrin (from previous visits) and will try them again over the next few days. I hope it is this simple to fix my problems.
I should also mention I am much more distracted, have gained weight (although I am a fitness nut – 6 days a week at the gym), tired all the time, feel like I’m working in a fog, cannot focus to read a a book…
If its just a switch back to brand name – you guys have given me my life back…..
candy Martinez
I WAS PRESCRIBED 10 MG OF PROZAC MANY YEARS AGO. Originally it was supposed to help me with my unbearable menstruation cycle, (ie moods of melancholy, intense anger, and overwhelmed with every day occurances and 2 daughters still in diapers.)
As I got older I also found out that it is used for patients with ADD & ADHD. That is why I have been taking it for over ten years & have found that the dose never needed to be increased.
When the generic brand prozac came out, I was happy to try it, as a lot of my meds are generic. Unfortunately the generic brand was like I was taking nothing all. I immediately had to have my doctor write “do not substitute on the prescription to ensure I got the name brand.
Does anybody have any information regarding Prozac & it’s effects on FMS?
J.D.
I have just recently discovered why my husband and I have been experiencing diarrhea for the past 6-12 months! The main generic drug, “levothyroxine” not only sent my TSH off the map, and all of the other primary symptoms that may accompany “hyperthyroidism”, but I found out that the “fillers” in a lot of these generics contain lactose, wheat gluten, colors, and alot of other ingredients that have made us very ill. Then after that I researched further, and discovered that our other meds that are generic, contain alot of similar fillers eg. Soma, motrin, lomotil ( also known as “lonox” )and levothyroxine}. Now my husband and I have to decide how we may remedy this problem, as the insurance companies today do not want to use anything but generics as they are cheaper. Are there any suggestions how we may handle this problem? We are being treated for fibromyalgia, muscle spasms, TX. for post operative thyroid disease (thyroid replacement), and now the diarrhea that is now chronic. The only change that I’m experiencing, is how my condition and blood work are improving now that I’m taking “Synthroid” .
My husband and I have never been so ill from any of the meds in the past
Jean Kimsey
My doctor wanted to save me money, and perscribed omeprazole 20 mg instead of Prilosec for terrible stomach problems following four knee surgeries in one year (intubations, pain rx.,etc.). I could have taken a spoonful of sugar and gotten the same results. I bought my own Prilosec until it got better.
When it was discovered I needed Rx. for hypothyroid, I told the pharamacist I would NOT accept generic. Of course I have to pay it myself. Fortunately, it isn’t as expensive as some people’s meds. But what about THOSE people who haven’t been blessed with a living wage/retirement??
The companies that produce these worthless drugs are getting THEIR profit and the insurance companies are getting a cut rate. Something wrong with this picture. How many of them take generics??? Hey, thanks for the good work you do. I read your column in the paper and have learned a lot. JK
Philip O
As many here have experienced, my switch from name brand Wellbutrin XL to generic Budeprion was a rude awakening. I had been taking Wellbutrin XL 300 mg (with Concerta 18 mg, to treat Adult ADD) for a short period of time, but I was impressed with the difference it made in my ability to concentrate and achieve. I too expected the generic to be a less expensive version of the medication which made such a remarkable difference for me.
I noticed right away that the pill was much larger–though I never thought to question why–and more difficult to swallow. Okay, no big deal. However, I found that taking the generic led me first down a spiral of despair, which only rebounded when I stopped completely.
Around the same time, I lost my health insurance, so I considered my next options carefully. I found a provider who was willing to not pre-exclude my treatment, but the default for treatment was the generic, so back to Budeprion again. Again, I felt the same downturn in mood, and vowed that on my next doctor visit, I’d insist on the name brand.
My physician was very supportive, and made the pharmacy instruction explicit. I then spoke to my plan, and they agreed to honor the cost for the name brand, albeit at a higher co-pay.
I consider myself lucky to be back to my Wellbutrin XL. Oh, and the manufacturer of the Budeprion was Teva. I’m not sure what they’re putting in the generic, but it’s not working. And just in reading previous posts, it appears they’re having the same poor track record with their other generic ‘equivalents.’ Buyers beware!
Margie
I was on Prozac, switched to the generic, and within about 6 weeks, my depression was worsening. We upped the dose, still nothing. My psychiatrist said there is absolutely a difference in bioavailability of these drugs, so I am now back on name brand and doing fine.
Over the past several months I’ve gone from brand name Allegra to generic, Wellbutrin to generic and Ambien to generic. It was at that time I started with a rash on my forearms. Now my palms are itching, red and swollen. My internal med doctor said this has nothing to do with the switch to generics. He sent me to a dermatologist who said it absolutely has everything to do with taking generics, she sees it several times a year and also learned about this at a recent conference.
I have to contact the prescribing doctor to get all my scripts changed to DAW. I know it’s gonna cost a bundle, if he’ll even do it. But having itching painful hands is going to drive me over the edge.
Sara
I have been taking Wellbutrin XL 300 mg for several years to treat depression. I get it prescribed yearly due to how my insurance works, and when it ran out this time the insurance said my doctor approved generic brand BudeprionXL 300 mg. I was not happy with this, but seeing when I first started on Wellbutrin I had asked for generic and it was not available, I decided to give it a try. I am not one for changeing medicines once something is working well, but I wanted them to still pay, so I changed.
After a few days I started to notice I got kind of weepy, but being under some stress I figured it was just me. Perhaps adjusting to hormones or having three kids starting school. Over the weekend and on about the fourth day, I started feeling self loathing and a bit paranoid and distrustful, and situations I already felt comfort and trust in, I completely wanted to run away from. I wanted isolation, and self harm started to run through my mind. The next day suicide ran through my mind constantly.
I knew this was not normal, nor a correct response to anything in my life. I could not come up with one thing in my life that had changed that would make me feel the way I was feeling and my thoughts scared me. Why was I feeling this way? By the next night, I was ready to call off my new marriage of one month, send all of my three kids I love so much away, sell my home, quit my job or slit my wrist. I woke up after a couple hours sleep crying and crying, feeling hopeless and overwhelmed, suicidal and hating everything about anything. With no reason for any of this.
I kind of thought perhaps the medicine was causing this, but not thinking quite clearly I took my morning dose. I was afraid perhaps if I did not I might be messing something up in the opposite way. I called the doctor from work, and then the doctor’s assistant said they have a lot of patients that have this problem with generic drugs. Go figure! What if I had not been a stronger person and went ahead and went with the feeling and slit my wrist? Or trashed my new marriage? Hurt my kids’ hearts?
I am telling you, this medicine really had/has me messed up. Right now I am waiting for it to wear out of my system and for word from the doctor and pharmacy/insurance that they will switch my medicine back to where it was.
I suppose a stay in the mental institution would be cheaper than paying for my prescription? Or perhaps life insurance or having to cash out my 401 pension and all the rest that goes with it? I swear, it makes no sense to put MY life at stake with a drug this risky. This drug really had me feeling absolutely insane. I have no idea how it was approved as a substitute.
How do I petition the FDA to re-investigate this? If I did not know myself this well, I could have truly harmed if not killed myself from the way I was feeling last night. I am afraid to sleep tonight knowing I have to get it out of my system. I will be all right, but I refuse to take anymore Budeprion. I am a new bride and have nothing to be depressed about, let alone suicidal. Even when I have forgotten to take my medicine (Wellbutrin) when on trips or such, I don’t get suicidal.
I strongly warn against taking this as a substitute. What is a shame is that unless they agree to pay for the Wellbutrin, I cannot pay full price. Now what?
Carole
Since I have been switched from brand name Lotrel to its TEVA generic, I have developed some severe contact allergy patches on my face and lips. It could be something else, but it started about when I switched to generic Lotrel. Any similar reactions?
DC
I have taken Ambien successfully for two years. I have recently been given generic brand (Teva). It is awful–does not work. It is like taking a sugar pill, but far worse, because it makes you dizzy and restless–not tired, not able to rest.
Please take this off the market. It is simply unbelievable that a company can make millions and millions of dollars, all the while deceiving the innocent public and depriving them of much needed medication. FDA please ACT!
RC
I was so pleased to see so many complaints re: Bupropion vs. Wellbutrin XL. I, too, like so many others, was given the generic, due to my insurance company’s willingness to pay the lower cost vs. the higher cost.
I had tried the generic form sometime ago, and it absolutely put me into a spiral downward within three days. My doctor ordered no generic and switched me back to the trade “Welbutrin XL”, and it worked very well for several years. My dose needed to be raised from 300mg \ day to 450mg\ day.
Again the generic was given to me. I hesitated in taking it, but decided I would try to give it a second chance. Maybe the Generic was better than it used to be. I tried it for three days and thought I might be felling better. Wrong. On day four, the feeling of sadness was starting to sneak in. Day five, my insides were shaking, the feeling of despair and extreme sadness was much greater. Day six was hell day. I felt like completely destroying everything in my shop that I work out of. Feelings of worthlessness, sorrow, outrage. I hated everything and everybody. I was begining to feel like I felt 10 years ago before I ever started taking anything for depression.
My wife is a nurse. I went to her and said, “it’s not working.” She said, “What’s not working?” I told her how I was feeling. She said do not take the Bupropion, take Wellbutrin XL. (We had a few of those left.) Two days after I started taking the Wellbutrin again, I was feeling better.
Do not give generic when the doctor has written a prescription for a trade name drug. There is a reason for this. Please FDA investigate these many testimonies re: the above drugs. This is cruel and inhuman treatment. Certainly with investigation, one would have to determine the savings would have to be very small in offering generic vs. trade name. Especially when it comes to insurance companies paying out large amounts of money for these pt’s visiting ER’s for suicide attempts, and being hospitallized for days \ weeks.
Glenn Winters
I have been taking Toprol XL 100 mg for several years, and it has controlled my blood pressure very well. Last week, the drug store gave me the generic Metoptolol SUCC in place of the Toprol XL. Ever since, after taking the generic, I have strange feelings in my head and symtoms of mild stomach upset. I have not taken my blood pressure, but intend to tomorrow. I do not believe the generic is the same as the brand name.
WRP
Took generic for zestril 20 mg. lisinopril 20mg was totally ineffective.
BM
I have been taking Toprol XL 50 mg for 6 years since my open heart surgery/using it for arrythmias. This month, my pharmacy dispensed the generic Metoprolol Succinate Oral which is making me very sick, fast heart rate, chest pain, burning in my neck, 7/24 headache (I never get headaches!) blurred vision and general ill feeling! This by NO MEANS is the same as Toprol, & personally I think this is going to make a lot of people sick. I never felt this way before on Toprol.
R. Spencer
I started generic Lamisil for a nail problem on 7/21/07 (it was approved by the FDA around 7/7/07), and 10 days later I started having dark urine and stomach cramps, which were listed as side effects. I went back to my dermatologist who had prescribed it, and he said I had symptoms of kidney stones, so told me to stop taking it. I told him that I was diagnosed with kidney stones 7 years ago, but they hadn’t moved, so he said that the Lamisil dehydrates you and could have affected the stones.
I then went to my urologist and he did a cat scan and found one stone had gotten stuck in my tube and was causing my kidney to swell. I then had to go to the hospital to have a stent put in my tube to drain my kidney, and 6 days later I went back to the hospital to have lithotripsy to blast out the stone, and when my kidney recovers I have to have the rest of the stones blasted out.
I will never know if the generic Lamisil started all of this, but I researched it online and it did say that it can affect your liver and kidneys. Several years ago I took regular Lamisil and had no problems. Has anyone heard of kidney problems with regular or generic Lamisil?
CG
I was having great results with Wellbutrin XL 300mg. Had been taking it about 3-4 months, having gotten through the first several weeks building up to therapeutic levels.
When the generic form became available, I was switched to it as my prescription drug plan defaults to generics. No problem, it was going to be less expensive than the co-pay for a “name brand”, and generics are just as good as the original, right?
Wrong. I began falling back into the depression I thought I had tamed. It finally dawned on me that perhaps the generic was the problem.
After research online, I found that the generic form of Wellbutrin XL was coming under fire for not working for many people. I called my pharmacy and prescription drug plan and was given approval to switch back to the original, which after a break-in period, began to provide the relief I had previously gotten.
However, I don’t know that I will be able to continue, as the co-pay for the name brand increased the moment the generic became available… now nearly $100/month. Matters not that the generic, for me, is nothing more than a placebo.
I’m begging the FDA to look into this generic. I had intolerable side-effects with other antidepressants. Now, due to financial issues, I will have to stop taking the only one that works for me. That’s depressing.
VC
I take Lisinipril for my high blood pressure. When I was first placed on it, I was overseas and the medicine worked great. I came back to TX, and the generic brands of Lisinipril were not working. Every 2 to 3 months I’d receive a different type of generic when I asked for a refill.
I walk, and I would have spells of my blood pressure spiking to the point of head and eye disturbances. It was scary, and I completely quit exercising.
I went to my doctor and showed him my blood pressure readings that I’d been taking. He switched me to the brand name drug, Prinivil, and increased the dosage, telling me that the U.S. way of making this drug was weaker than the pill I was getting from Europe.
DS
I have taken Metadate ER for my adult ADD for several years. This is an extended release form of medication. My pharmacy dispensed me generic Methalyn. Methalyn did not break down properly and would create an “all at once” effect with subsequent wearing off of the medication before the next dose. Furthermore, the pills literally broke down in the bottle. The outer coating disintegrated and there were fragments of the pill in the pill bottle. Needless to say, I only will take the name brand of this medication, and I have to have my doctor write such when he prescribes.
M. A.
Several years ago, I was put on Wellbutrin SR 150 2x a day. I was doing very poorly and this was the fourth medication my GNP tried me on. After a few weeks on it, I was doing better than I had in years. I’ve fought depression my entire life and that was the first time I’d had any control.
After over a year on it, I lost my insurance, and my pharmacists told me it was now available in generic form. My mom’s a nurse, so I had grown up a huge fan of generic meds. I was very excited to be able to save money on my anti-depressants.
Within a week, though, I was a total mess. I don’t believe for a second there was anything Slow Release about the generic formula. Each day was a roller coaster of highs and lows, twice a day. High and happy within an hour of taking it, and draggy and depressed as it wore down. After finishing that bottle, I’ve never taken the generic again. I do better completely off meds.
L Douglas
After being diagnosed with clinical depression 7 years ago, I had found RX treatment using Wellbutrin SR and later Wellbutrin XL to have renewed my joy for living. It was not my wish to need these RX for life, and after 5 years chose to see if I could do well without them. Well, that was not to be the case for me. I am a lifer. Starting again on Wellbutrin XL 300 mg, life was again good.
After a few months when I was renewing my RX, I found the generic had been approved. I am one of those who feel they should be the same. Feb 2007, I began using the generic Bupropion HCL XL.
Because I was not looking out for problems, when they began to occur I did not attribute them to the new RX. But when my thoughts and attitudes began to resemble those I had in the past before taking RX, I began to suspect something may be up with the meds. I was having suicidal thoughts, feeling irritable, had decreased interest in sex, felt more tired, and had occasional panic attack symptoms.
When I spoke with my doctor, he was not aware of any issues, but wrote my new RX for the brand Wellbutrin XL 300 mg as medically needed. Well, when I saw my mail-order pharmacy price changes since generic, I wanted to know if maybe I should continue on the generic, typical since I still tend to think it is all in my head. $251 for brand and $35 for 90 days of generic.
Here is when I thought to see what I could find out in the web. I want to thank all those that have taken time to voice their mishaps with the generic. I am a lucky one, I can get it, but will need to make some changes to afford something I had not planned to require.
JC
I have been taking Zoloft for postpartum since last September, and before that had been on it for previous post-partum depression episodes. It has always been extremely effective in reducing all of my depressive symptoms.
A few months ago, my pharmacy switched my prescription and gave me the generic. I was excited that it was only ten dollars, and I figured it MUST be the same as the regular Zoloft, because I figured there’s no way the drug companies would mess around with anti-depressants! So I began confidently taking the generic.
Well, over the next several months, things started to go downhill. My moodiness, lethargy, irritability, and overall depressive state all came back with a vengeance. It finally dawned on me to consider my setback as a result of the switch to generic. Now, after reading up on this on the internet, I am convinced beyond the shadow of a doubt that the generic is ineffective for me.
So I called my doc, and she called in the name brand Zoloft. Unfortunately, I have to pay 50 dollars a month, but I don’t care, it is worth my sanity. I began the name brand Zoloft today, and I look forward to feeling functional and being able to take care of my family the way I was able to before this horrible switch. JC
A. Marks
MY STORY:
Three weeks ago I filled my prescription for Zoloft, which I take in combination with Wellbutrin, with the generic because my co-pay was lower and the pharmacist assured me it was the same as the brand name. Once I made the choice, I really didn’t think anything of it.
The last three weeks, however, I have been absolutely BONKERS–there’s just no other word for it. Quasi-manic, totally unable to focus on my work in an office, but completely consumed by large, physical, busy-work type, self-created “projects.” I was sleeping through the night, but not too keen to get into bed. And worst of all, I was so irritable–very quick to anger, very road-rage-y.
I was driving to work when I had my Ah-Ha! Moment–“This feels like a whole lot of Wellbutrin and not a whole lot of Zoloft.” Suddenly it all made sense. I did some googling and learned I’m not alone. I also learned that I was taking what is considered the worst of the generic Zoloft brands out there; the company that makes it is called Teva Pharmaceuticals.
For the past three days, I’ve been back on the good stuff and am slowly starting to feel like myself. And don’t give me that “It takes two weeks to feel a difference” line. For me, it’s always about three days to feel the effect or absence of this drug.
MY HISTORY:
I’ve been taking Zoloft (50 mg, sometimes 75 mg) for about 12 years; the last six or so in combination with Wellbutrin (300 mg SR; mostly to counteract the side effects of Zoloft). Last summer, I weaned myself off both drugs b/c I was trying to get pregnant. I exercised and took vitamins and worked hard to keep depression at bay, but it was tough. About four months ago I went back on the anti-depressants and it made a huge difference–I felt like myself again. My reason for mentioning this is to point out that I REALLY know how these drugs affect me. I’m very in touch with my mental health, my mood and my body.
MY PROTEST:
I am ABSOLUTELY APPALLED that in the United States of America, an advanced nation with so-called consumer protections, I was sold a completely ineffective drug and as a result had to go “cold turkey” off of a medication that I rely on and that has really horrible withdrawal symptoms.
CK L
I started taking Wellbutrin years ago for extreme PMS symptoms. It was the third medicine I tried before my doctor and I found something that would work for me without any side effects.
A couple of years ago, my doctor wanted me to try Lexapro. It has worked fine, but had side effects, so recently, we agreed to go back to Wellbutrin.
Like so many letters above have mentioned, I was given Budeprion XL 300 mg instead. After just one month, I was a completely different person. I would fly into a rage over something insignificant on occasion. As if that wasn’t enough, I cried over everything. I simply could not stop. I own my own business, and one day I even broke down crying because I did something very nice and out of the ordinary for a customer. I thought to myself that I was just so sweet for doing this and actually started to cry over it! She thought it was nice and really appreciated it, but probably thought I was a nutcase when I started to cry.
My roommate then suggested it was time to meet with my doctor again, because something was definitely wrong. When the P.A and I sat down to talk, she assured me that generics were the same as the original drug, and we both assumed Wellbutrin just wasn’t the medicine for me any more. We switched me to the generic for Zoloft.
From that day on, I have not shed a single tear or lost my temper in any way, shape, or form. Here is what is strange though. I cannot complete a thought with my customers at all anymore. I get tongue-tied and switch words. Sometimes I think I am starting to lose my mind. Reading all of these stories here makes me think that, once again, it may be the generic.
My mother showed me your article in Raleigh’s News and Observer in July. I have a follow-up appointment with my doctor in a week. I am taking the article with me and am going to refer them to this website. I am also going to ask to be written the prescription for actual Wellbutrin. I think it is written PRN…is that right? Whatever, I believe it means to give me the brand drug and not to substitute a generic. I think this Budeprion is dangerous and should be removed from the market, as should many generics if everything I am reading is true.
Holly
I just had to add my agreement to all the posts above for generic Wellbutrin XL. I have been so much worse the last few months after switching to the Budeprion XL (especially the last few weeks).
I had no idea what was going on, just that I cried all the time, had no joy, and wished I would just die. I wasn’t exactly suicidal, but I think I may have been heading in that direction. I haven’t cried so much since the death of my husband almost four years ago.
The brand name I was first prescribed was like a miracle, but lately I just thought it had quit working. My sister mentioned she noticed a huge difference in her chronic fatigue after they switched her to the generic. She improved right away when her doctor put her back on the brand name.
I decided to research it on the internet. I am so glad I found this message board. I am calling my doctor in the morning and intend to report this to the FDA also. At least I have hope again.
donald cook
I originally was taking Accupril for my blood pressure. I was later changed to the generic Quinipral, and started having headaches. I am now on Enalipril, which worked fine for about 2 years, but now I’m beginning to have headaches again. Has anyone experienced this problem?
TLT
I was prescribed Wellbutrin SR 150 mg twice daily. My mail-order pharmacy filled it with Bupropion ER 150 mg tablets, which worked great. These are mfg by EON Labs.
I ran out once and had to refill locally, and was given Bupropion SR 150mg, mfg by Watson, which absolutely did not work at all. Another time I had to refill with the name-brand Wellbutrin, and it worked about half as well as the Bupropion made by EON.
So–in addition to paying attention to generic vs. name-brand, it is also important to pay attention to the name of the manufacturing lab.
D N
I recently thought I’d try generic fluoxetine instead of Prozac because it’s much cheaper. I’ve been paying $50 for 30 capsules of Prozac, which is just ridiculous. This medication has been out for years and I see no reason why it should cost so much, other than big pharma greed. I was delighted to pay $10 for 60 pills of the generic, and it worked fine for the first four days. On the fifth day, I felt like I hadn’t taken anything: my anxiety, OCD and depression returned with a vengeance. Last night and today I have taken twice the dose of the generic to get reasonable relief from my sx.
Generics are NOT the same; whether it’s the Sandoz company’s inaccurate chemical compound or the particular fillers they use, this medication is crap! I totally resent having to pay five times as much for brand name; what a rip off. I don’t know whether to go back to Prozac and pay a fortune, or continue to double the dose of the generic. I’m disgusted.
Those doctors and pharmacists who say generics are exactly the same as brand name obviously don’t take these medications.
t u
Medicare would not pay for Pravachol, which
I had been on for several years, so I was made to take Pravastatin. After about 2 weeks, I was so weak I could barely move–could not lift my arms to comb my hair! My doctor stopped the drug after a month, and I was put on Lipitor. Now I am okay.
SM
I did not realize my problems during the past three months were due to my switch to the generic Budeprion XL. I have gone back on Wellbutrin and feel fantastic! I can’t believe TEVA is allowed to sell that generic as anything remotely related to Wellbutrin.
I’m glad I read about it in your column.
Chrissy B.
Yet another comment here to add to the extensively long list of complaints about TEVA’s Budeprion. I too was surprised to receive the generic via mail order, when before I’d taken either Wellbutrin or Bupropion – both of which worked great for my ADD and depression.
I postponed taking this new generic for weeks becuase I’d read so many negative things about it from other people. However, I couldn’t postpone it any more and decided to give it a go.
After only taking it for about a week, I’ve already put on a couple of pounds, and that right there is enough of a reason to flush this crap down the toilet.
I am disgusted that the insurance companies won’t pay for the name brand when it’s apparently worked for so many people. I’ll be calling my insurance, TEVA (if possible), the FDA and my doc to try and remedy it. How pathetic the US healthcare system is.
B. Carlson
Generic Budeprion XL is horrible. I started on Wellbutrin XL and was actually happy after many years of depression, and trying different antidepressant after antidepressant, Wellbutrin XL worked wonders for me.
Well, I went to go get it refilled, and they gave me the generic Budeprion XL. I noticed a change in myself within a day or so. I cried, and cried, and cried some more, very irritable, can’t sleep, very anxious, terrible headaches, short fuse, tired, etc., etc. I am way more depressed now than I was before.
I am going back on Wellbutrin XL. Budeprion is NOT the same as Wellbutrin XL, it is horrible and should not be dispensed to people.
HJ
For 2 months now, my husband’s doctor has been trying to get him adjusted to Warfarin. After every blood test the result is: his blood is still not thin enough. Now he is supposed to take a 7.5 daily and a 10 twice a week.
I just recently caught up on the generic drug discussion and personally, I think that the Warfarin is just not doing the job. I told my husband to insist on the brand name Coumadin next time he sees the doctor. Let’s see what happens… I sure will do a follow-up on this side.
P Carter
I have taken Synthroid for years. Last year, my doctor retired, and the new one suggested a generic to save money. With the generic, about 15-20 minutes after taking the pill, my heart would race and feel “fluttery”. I would sweat profusely and feel that the room was stifling. I am not menopausal. Within another 30 minutes, the sensations would subside and I would feel normal again.
I called the doctor, and he said it might be a temporary adjustment, so I continued on the generic for the entire supply of 30 pills. My reaction to the medication never got better. In addition to the discomfort, the episodes of racing heartbeats scared me, and I returned to Synthroid.
With the first dose, the reactions disappeared and things were normal again. I will never take another generic for Synthroid.
RB
Two years ago, my insurance company refused to cover Allegra anymore. After a month on the generic, I noticed that my allergic sinus headaches increased from a few per year to a few per week! The only affordable solution was to switch to Allegra D. Two months ago, that, too, went generic, and I was forced to switch to generic. Again, my sinus headaches have increased; out of the past 7 days, I’ve had 4 with sinus headaches. I’ll be asking my doctor for a brand name alternative.
Jane C
I’m joining voices with Wellbutrin XL 300 users whose prescription drug insurance switched them without authorization to the generic form called Bupropion XL 300 (manufactured by Teva). I’ve had profound sadness, crying, extreme fatigue, panic, and weight gain, and my symptoms became even worse with the generic than they were before I started a program of antidepressants. I had excellent results taking Wellbutrin for over a year, and I did not know that the generic was causing this emotional nosedive.
I went to the doctor, who prescribed an entirely different antidepressant, Effexor XR 75, which just added migraines and nervious disorders to my list of symptoms. I felt over-medicated. I stopped them abruptly, thinking absolutely nothing could be worse… but three days later, things were worse – and I could hardly hold myself together.
At that time, the doctor and I agreed to try the name brand Wellbutrin XL 300 again, and it’s beginning to work. Even though I’m no longer so depressed, I AM very ANGRY, because I needlessly lost seven months to depression, losing valuable time, and worrying my family and friends.
We have been defrauded by the manufacturing company and wronged by our insurance companies. How did the FDA approve such a hoax?
Priscilla Whalen
I’ve taken Ambien for several years with great success. I’ve enjoyed greater daytime energy, increased immunity, and 8 hours each night of restful sleep. Not so with the generic Zolpidem. As others have written, I have awful nightmares, and can only doze, waking up every hour. It’s almost worse than taking nothing.
S.M
I was taking 37.5 Effexor for hot flashes (nothing else worked). It took 6 months for me to get used to it, and I was groggy in the mornings. My hot flashes weren’t totally gone, but Effexor helped.
Then I got a generic, “Venlor” 37.5, and it works even better than the name brand. I have NO flashes unless I forget to take a pill, and I wake up less groggy. Also, the cost of the name brand was $2.65 per pill, but for the generic, I only pay 62 cents per pill. And while Effexor made me a little more depressed, the generic is better. I have more motivation.
I also believe that rice bran oil is helping to decrease my hot flashes.
B. H.
This weekend, I took my generic Ambien to my pharmacist, because I thought he had given me the wrong drug. I had gotten it 4 days before, and it was not working at all. I’ve been taking Ambien for over a year with the same results every night until now.
It turns out that the manufacturer of the ineffective generic is Teva, which is what Walgreens normally stocks. Before this, I had gotten generic Ambien from Medco. Their manufacturer is Apotex, and it works fine.
LS
The FDA doesn’t seem to hold generics to the same standards that they hold name brand drugs to. If I understand correctly, a generic can use anywhere from 80-125% of the active ingredient that’s in the name brand, and the delivery mechanism doesn’t have to be the same.
Wellbutrin XL, for example, uses a patented time-release technology that the generic doesn’t use. The pharmaceutical company had to do years of clinical studies to perfect the delivery method for the name brand, but the generic doesn’t have to have the patented delivery method, and is only required to use 80-125% of the active ingredient.
A generic can be quite different from a name brand in many ways (pill size, inactive ingredients, etc.), and without the manufacturers having to do clinical studies. The active ingredient in the generic may be the same, but the pharmacokinetic profile may not be.
The FDA should require the same studies for generics, and should be honest with the public about the possible differences between generics and name brands. And the public should be smart enough to know that generics may not act in exactly the same ways as name brands.
Alice Di Leo
Alice is my mother who was taking Zestral until the insurance company made her switch to the generic brand. After two weeks on this new pill she woke up about 2AM with a swollen tounge.
After a trip to the ER she is now on a new medicatiion. After this she will no lnger accept any generic drug.
K. Blackburn
For several years I have take the generic “budeprion” because it was less expensive than the Wellbutrin which had normalized my life for a long time. I was thinking it was “just me”, but after reading of other people’s experiences and hearing about them on NPR, I realize there is something very, very wrong here. Last November I bottomed out, quit my job, went with another company, lost a beloved pet to cancer and it has been a most difficult year so far. The generic has produced all the ill-effects I have heard of others experiencing. Weight gain, night sweats, sleeplessness and frighteningly increased depression. I am wondering if there is a potential for a good healthy class-action suit here.
Harriett D.
I take furosemide, 20 mg. tablets, and for a long time took Mylan brand generic. Then the pharmacy switched me to Sandoz brand generic. I immediately began ‘drowning’, and my weight jumped 5 lbs overnight. I fortunately had some Mylan brand still on hand, switched back, lost the water, and three days later tried the Sandoz again. Same result. I am on an assigned Medicare Part D Plan, and as a result the Mylan has to be special ordered, and approved for me to get it.
These are both generic forms of the drug, but even among generics there are big differences. A major concern is that while I recognized the problem and took immediate action, (and then tested the problem out again), there are a lot of eldely people on furosemide, for instance, who would not understand the pill could be ‘bad’, and who could end up seriously ill, with their doctors blaming them for ‘non-compliance’ problems. “Mrs. D is not taking her furosemide as directed,” when in fact it was the drug manufacturer at fault.
K.L.
I just recently purchased the generic for Ambien (5mg.), 30 pills from Costco Pharmacy in Sequim,WA. The price was $12.47. They didn’t work as I could not get to sleep. I tried taking them on two different occasions. I usually take one at 11 p.m. and within an hour I’m asleep. I told the pharmacy what happened and had to purchase regular Ambien (same dosage,30 pills) for $135.00. I don’t have insurance. The regular Ambien worked as it always does. I thought I could save money by going generic. I’m very concerned about these generic drugs. I think the public is being screwed!
John Gerard
I was switched from Wellbutrin 300 xl to the generic. I immediately felt more anxious, and my anxiety grew daily. I couldn’t take it anymore, and asked to be changed back to the brand name. This was done, but my insurance will only cover the cost of the generic. My anxiety decreased the first day that I was back on the brand name Wellbutrin.
Gregg
My insurance company last week switched me from Ambien to the generic, Zolpidem. Every night this week on Zolpidem has been filled with very bad nightmares. I wake up in a sweat and can barely function all day because I only get 4 hours of sleep a night. On Ambien, I would get 8 hours of undisturbed sleep a night.
Rose C.
I have been taking Toprol XL 100mg since 1997. This week when I picked up my prescription, the pharmacy warned me not to be alarmed about the new tablet, as it was the new generic brand.
On Toprol, I have not had any problems with my shortness of breath or tachycardia for years. At first, I was just going to pay to keep the brand name, but being a nurse, I said, “I will try it” and be an example.
NEVER AGAIN!! I do not believe for a second that the newest generic Toprol XL treats symptoms as well as the brand name. For the last three days, I have had moderate to severe shortness of breath, tachycardia & angina.
So tonight I gave in, and I had my husband pass by the pharmacy on his way home to pick up another 30-day supply of BRAND Toprol XL to see if the generic was indeed the problem. Guess what? Four hours later, I was having no shortness of breath, angina nor tachycardia.
Violet Aitson
Since the death of my daughter 12 years ago, I have taken an antidepressant. After trying almost every one on the market, Welbutrin XL 300 finally worked for me. I have taken it for approximately 5 years.
Recently I was given the generic brand when I filled my prescription. Within a week, I began to feel the depression coming back, and it took me a little while longer to begin to suspect that the generic brand was not working.
I asked for Welbutrin XL when I refilled the prescription, but even with the insurance company co-pay my part was $125.00 per prescription. I am unable to pay that much since I take several other prescriptions too, so I have continued to take the generic brand.
I hope that as more and more people report their experience with the generic brand, the insurance companies will realize it is much less expensive in the long run to pay for the Welbutrin XL rather than the results of the generic not working.
Carol in North Carolina
I have had problems with several generics, the latest being Methlphenidate HCL (Methylin 20MG Tablet Mallk Chem). It is a generic for Ritalin that has recently been prescribed for me in addition to Cymbalta.
I had it filled at a Sam’s Pharmacy, and it worked well, but I then ordered it from Prescription Solutions, a mail-order RX center for AARP Prescription Insurance, because it was cheaper this way. After less than a week, I realized something was very wrong. I began to decline to where I was before I started taking the Methlphenidate HCL.
I contacted Prescription Solutions, and was told that the generic I was taking for Ritalin had the same MAIN ingredient as the brand name, but that the other ingredients probably were not the same. I was also told that Prescription Solutions buys from the drug company offering it the lowest price, so the company they purchase from could very well change from month to month.
I don’t understand why generics are said to be the same as a name brand when they are not necessarily the same. The MAIN ingredient is there, but the rest of the ingredients differ.
jsm
I was switched from Wellbutrin to the generic Wellbutrin. I thought that was most cost-effective, and I was happy to do so.
It has been many months, and I feel sad, I have no energy, thoughts of “not worth living,” and just fel all-around lousy. I assumed it was just ME.
Thank goodness a friend of mine and I walk 5 miles every morning and talk. We compared our quality of life, including work and relationships, and we realized that they could not be worse. We noted that we were both on the generic Wellbutrin, and also noted we had felt wonderful when we started on the original Wellbutrin. She then found this site. Unreal!
M.K.J.
I had a bad experience with a generic antibiotic several years ago. I was diagnosed with strep throat in college and given Keflex. It killed the strep effectively and had no side effects. A year or so later, I was given Cephalexin for mastitis. Not only did I have vaginal itching, but I also felt generally unwell. Since then, I have been a firm believer in non-generic drugs.
js
I have been using Ambien for some time, quite effectively. When I switched to the generic Zolpidem Tartrate (PRAS), I was awake for several hours. Now I am trying to take the generic earlier in the evening with mixed results. But the cost to go back on the name brand would be more than 8 times the generic.
BL
About 3 years ago, I was placed on Wellbutrin XL 300 for depression. I was amazed that after 3 weeks, I felt like a new person.
That feeling continued, and I was able to function at 100% until about one month ago, when I re-filled my prescription via my mail order pharmacy and received the generic version. I’ve never had a problem with generics, so I thought, no problem, I’ll save money. That was until I noticed that I no longer felt like doing anything and felt sad.
My friends started to tell me that I had a short fuse. I also was very anxious. People started asking me if I was okay, and when I said yes, why, they said I appeared very agitated and sad. I have just contacted my doctor for a new prescription, stating not to provide the generic.
I just can’t believe that the same drug could make me feel so different.
CH
Thank you for this website. I too was taking the generic Budeprion. Unlike everyone here, I had not taken Wellbutrin XL and was OK. So, I concluded that maybe I would have to try another drug. I decided to tuff it out.
For 2 months I had extreme jitters, felt like I wanted to die, pains in my stomach in two places. Thinking I had an ulcer, I have been taking the purple pill. My symptoms did not fit many of the maladies that effected your stomach but I was desperate to find an answer. I even went as far as to see a gastroenterologist. His answer was to take 6 or 7 different tests until we find the answer. Not! Then I found this website. Thank the lord.
Since my health plan decided not to cover “nervous system disorders” anymore, I was forced to find a cheaper alternative. I sent away for my prescription and got the name brand not aware of the generic problem link. Then I found this website. I just got Webutrin XL 4 days ago and I am so much better. I revisited this website and noticed that there were people like me who had the stomach problems. I am so relieve to know it is not in my head. Shame on the Doctors and drug companies who have not figured this out. This stuff is poison and I hope it gets taken off the market soon.
MLC
Interesting comments, to which I add that years ago when I switched from Wellbutrin to a generic, I thought it had a lack of oompfh…..but thought it was all in my head. From the commenting here, I’d venture to guess it was not. Several months ago, I switched physicians and was placed back on Synthroid after having been on generics for years. It’s made quite a difference. My current problem is my generic for Allegra 180. I switched pharmacies recently and was given a different company manufactured generic and, basically, it doesn’t work AT ALL. I researched the company and it’s headquartered in India, making me all the more suspicious. The generic I used from the other company worked well enough….but I’m going back to the original, which I know works!
hep
i had been on plavix for 2 to 3 years when i was switched to clopidogrel. In a couple days i started itching all over so i talked to my druggist and said to stop clopidogrel that it was either the filler or the dye as the medicine was the same and my doctor agreeded with him.
JAS
Five years ago my insurance company insisted I take generic prozac after nine years of taking the brand name. After a few months I noticed depression/anxiety symptoms returning. Another very bizarre thing that happened was I nearly had an extra-marital affair after 10 years of a very happy, stable, rewarding relationship. I can’t be sure it was related but it was so not me-and I loved my spouse very much. I’ve heard some people have gambing issues when they take Mirapex, having something to do with the reward center in your brian. My doctor wrote my insurance company and I have been back on brand name ever since.
Paul Marko
Both my father and myself have had problems with generic version of the pain killer Darvon.
The lighter the color pill – the less effective it is. Both our doctor’s have recognized this problem as well.
Very bad for those of us who only have generic drug coverage.
Nancy K. Baker
When I took Fluoxetine the generic for Prozac (40mg)my OCD and depression was back to square one. My doctor had to write to my insurance company and insist that I get the brand name. He had several complaints from other patients. My sister had the same problems but her doctor would not give her the brand name. She switched doctors.
J
I have been using Wellbutrin XL 300 for 2 years and back in May I had it refilled and I was given the generic brand buproprion. I noticed a difference in my moods with the generic brand that I did not have with Wellbutrin. I was moody, no motivation, night sweats, headaches and some weight gain. When I was done with that month’s supply and went to refill for June I insisted that I get the Wellbutrin XL brand they said I could get the Wellbutrin brand , but it was going to cost me $80 + for that perscription!
So I am now continuiong with the Buproprion and still am experiencing night sweats, irritatility,crying bouts, feeling worthless and no motiovation.
This is an outrage!!!! I do not care the the FDA approved Buproprion. They have been wrong before and I ask that they recheck the drug and bring Wellbutrin back.
lacw
I have been suffering with depression and OCD for years. About two years ago I made the decision to start taking medication, which was not an easy decision for me. Within four weeks of taking the brand name Zoloft, I felt better than I had in years. My symptoms had for the most part disappeared.
I became pregnant and lowered my 50mg to 25mg. After the birth of our child, I increased the dosage back to 50mg, in hopes to escape Post Partum Depression, as my OCD and depression put me in a higher risk category for developing. I felt great and enjoyed motherhood immensely.
A few months later my pharmacy informed me that my insurance co. no longer would cover the brand Zoloft and that I needed to switch to the generic. I took the generic thinking that it was great that I only had to pay ten dollars as opposed to the hundred and seven the pharmacy would now have to charge. After the first four weeks I noticed a huge change in my mental state. Anxiety returned with a vengeance, OCD symptoms returned, foggy feeling in my mind, loss of sleep, no energy… the list goes on.
I recently had my yearly check up and explained to my doctor the events that had taken place since the switch to the generic brand, and within our conversation, she immediately had me switch back to the brand name, which she deemed “medically ness.”. It has only been one day back on the brand name, but I swear as the night goes on I can feel a difference. To think that I have suffered for months now due to a generic drug makes me want to cry. I have seen personally what Post Partum Depression can due to families and how depression and anxiety can effect the lives of children and their families.
Someone needs to fix this problem, everyone suffering from mental illness must understand that these insurance companies are literally taking our lives into their hands and speak up. It is not all in your mind, as I had previously thought. Our symptoms are not a coincidence.
Edward Apen
I take Coumadin for arial fibrillation. On generic Warfarin my clotting tests were very unstable. On brand name Çoumadin (DuPont) for the past 5 years the INR and PT are excellent. Brand name is very expensive. My co-pay is $40, a month for brand name versus $7, for generic.
David Gersh
I occasionally take Levsin (hyoscyamine) for symtoms of Irritable Bowel Syndrome. One form of Levsin can be taken sublingually or swallowed. Placing a tablet under your tongue supposedly cuts the time it takes to work from 20 minutes to 10 minutes. I have never had a problem with the brand name product dissolving, but some of the generic tablets dissolve so slowly it actually works quicker to swallow it!
Donna
I have been taking Neurontin for Fibromyalgia and nerve problems in my leg. When they offered generic Neurontin, I said sure and soon after I started taking it I developed horrible headaches and other problems. My doctor told me to switch back to name brand Neurontin and the headaches, etc. went away. Now, I pay out of pocket $227.00 a month for name brand Neurtonin (yes that is with insurance) and Medco pays $12.00. Something isn’t right about that. My insurance policy can charge whatever they want and it goes up every month since I am getting brand name pills instead of their generic.
Angela Price
For some reason my pharmacy has been giving me TEVA Clonazepam. It is not working correctly. I take 0.5 at bedtime and I have to go back to bed around 8 A.M. I take 1/2 of 0.5 around 12 noon and I am very anxious for about four hours….then I have to sleep. It does not matter where I am or what I am doing….I have to sleep for about 20 minutes. I have been taking 0.5 at bedtime and a half in the mornings. I have noticed in the last few refills the TEV after the word tablet.
Diane Magerowski
I am so glad I found this web site, I was beginning to think that this was all in my head, that I must be going crazy. My insurance company informed me that they wouldn’t pay for my name brand Zoloft after 4 years of taking it.
Three weeks ago I switched to generic, and I have not felt right since. I am in a constant state of anxiety and depression, although not a severve form of depression. I find myself worrying all of the time now about all things, big and small. I told my husband last night that I did not think my meds were working because I feel down in the dumps. I can’t sleep soundly at night. My head feels “foggy”.
And the one thing that I have noticed is that although it initially sounds like a good side effect, my sex drive has been higher in the past couple of weeks, which actually tells me that the drug is NOT working! Not that I don’t want the sex drive, but reduced sex drive has always been a side affect with the Zoloft, so it tells me this drug is not getting into my system correctly.
After about a week on the generic, I spent an entire day with the most horrible headache that also included a dizzy, foggy feeling. Could this have been a withdrawal? Plus I have had tension in my body that is so much more than usual. I am going to insist I go back on the name brand Zoloft, because paying a lot less for this generic is not worth feeling this way. GENERICS ARE NOT THE SAME!!!
Donald Pettitt
I’ve been taking Nefazodone ever since the brand (Serzone) came out about 15yrs ago. It is the only thing that works for my severe depression (nausea, migraines, motor skill problems etc.). About 4 years ago my pharmacy switched to the Teva generic. I did not have a problem with this until about a year ago when after a refill I noticed I started getting my old symptoms back and I was getting heart palpitations. By the next refill I was very sick. I was beginning to narrow it down to my generic medicine so I decided to try a different pharmacy chain. It used Teva also (I have later found out that Teva is the only manufacturer of the drug anymore) and I continued to get worse so my Dr tried me on Cymbalta which I tried for about 3 months. Cymbalta did not work for me so I tried another refill of Teva Nefazodone. This refill WORKED! Finally after a couple of weeks my symptoms were a lot better, I was like my old self again. The next couple of refills continued to work then I got another bad one again. Now it is a 50/50 chance I will get a good refill. I have tried talking to the pharmacist, Teva, and the FDA but everyone says I am the only one having this problem.
DRP
Linda C
I have taken Zocor for several years for high cholesterol and my cholesterol levels were not only within the acceptable range, but good. My insurance company switched me to simvastatin, the generic. My cholesterol started to rise even though nothing else in my life had changed. After 6 months of my cholesterol levels continuing to rise, we (myself and my physician) petitioned the insurance compnay and they agreed to allow me to return to Zocor. The blood results after only three months shows my blood cholesterol level going down. I would have been happy to take the generic if my bloodwork results had been the same.
Franklin G. Hastings
In September 2002, after several short occurances of left eye vision losses, I was diagnosed with carotid artery blockage (100% left and 60-70% right). I was placed on Lipitor and 75 mg Plavix daily. Following with routine six month ultrasound and blood tests showed no blockage changes, improved cholesterol levels and no other problems. On 12/6/06 I was switched to the generic for Plavex (CLOPIDOGREL,75mg mfg by APOTEX). On 1/1/07 I was taken to the hospital after an occurance of shaking and passing out. No stroke or other reason was found. During the following two months I had other short cases of weakness and almost passing out. On 3/15/07 I switched back to brand Plavex and to date none of the above problems occurred. I strongly believe that the generic does not give the same protection as Plavex.
Kathy Cole
In May 2004 I developed a rash on my lower leg. Nothing at home seemed to cure it so I went to one of my two dermatologist practices that I respect (one covered by my ins and one wasn’t). I was given the generic of ultravate cream .05%(I no longer have the generic tube to give more specifics) with diagnosis of eczema. I used it repeatedly for a long time and nothing happened.
Finally, on March 30, 2005, nearly a year later, I went to the second doctor and showed him the rash and my medicine. First the result – he prescribed the brand ultravate cream .05% and after three days the rash was cleared! Now the explanation from the second doctor: Brand name medicine cream production is done in a very controlled setting with very small batches. Generic production can be likened to a giant cement truck with the medicine dumped in, swirled around and the tubes filled. Clearly, I got a tube with no medicine in it. I learned a valuable lesson about dermatological medicines/creams.
SZ Rosenthal
My mother has taken the generic Clonidine for many years to control high blood pressure. She began having problems with spiking blood pressure in early March, but did not associate it with a refill of her prescription obtained from Sam’s Club. She ended up in the emergency room on suspicion of stroke when her blood pressure continued to spike out of control, despite best efforts by her cardiologist and nephrologist, and increases in her medication, which had previously been stabile in dosage for many years. She has had probably permanent damage to vision, but thankfully no stroke.
In June she got a new refill from Sams’ Club, which had switched from the Mylan generic to another company which used a blister pack for its pills. Her blood pressure went so low after one day of using the new pills that it was dangerous! She cut back over a couple of weeks to her old dosage. Appears that the Mylan generic was to blame. This was reported to the FDA three weeks ago, and still no response at all.
This is a shameful situation.
Thanks to Joe and Terry for this site.
Randy - Omaha, NE
I posted to this site in early May and my gosh it has exploded with the problems with the generic Wellbutrin XL. I experienced all the symptoms mentioned in all the other comments. It was awful, I was ready to kill myself. Once I realized it was the that nasty smelling generic drug that was making me feel so bad I asked my doctor for a prescription for the name brand Wellbutrin XL. In two days I started feeling better.
I reported this problem to my doctor, my mail order pharmacy, TEVA Pharmacuietals, the FDA, and anyone who would listen to me. I suggest everyone report it to the FDA. The form has lots of questions but they are not hard to answer. We have victimized by system. Our doctors write prescriptions and the insurance company makes the decision for us, which is the cheapest priced drug. Get the word out, the generic Wellbutrin XL is bad before one of us dies from it, if it hasn’t happened already.
FDA website: http://www.fda.gov/medwatch/index.html
TEVA website: http://www.tevapharm.com/
cindy
I had been on synthroid for many years with my hypothyroidism well controlled. I switched six months ago to the generic thinking it would be the same medication, just cost less. Over the winter I developed dry skin and hair, gained weight despite not increasing my food intake, was cold all the time and tired. I brushed it off as just being due to winter but things did not improve come spring. I happened on some information that suggested that the generic form might not be as efffective and decided to switch back. Within a few weeks I felt so much better and I had lost all the weight I had gained. I will definitely pay the extra for Synthroid.
pat
I went to this site after hearing about it on one of the morning shows recently. I wanted more information on real medicines vs. generic because I had recently had a horrid experience going to a generic(round and purple)from my other generic (oval and white)form of Wellbutrin.
I had taken the real Wellbutrin successfully for awhile but then I switched to generic to save money. The oval white generics seemed to be working fine for me. But then at refill time the pharmacy switched to the purple brand because that is what they had from their supply source. Same drug, different company they explained. I didn’t expect any problems because I had been taking a generic.
Then I began my decline into depression. I was physically sick but thought it was the heat or what I ate or whatever. I had headaches and was hungry constantly. I cried at the news and couldn’t let go of sad thoughts. I had to force myself to leave the house. I should have caught it sooner, but didn’t. Finally after about a month it dawned on me that it might be the darn purple pills (the three month mail order supply I had in my cupboard). IT WAS!
I am now on the real Wellbutrin XR and am myself again. It cost a bit of a fortune for the new supply, but a most necessary expense. After reading comments of others it was a relief to discover it wasn’t just me and/or “all in my head.” I am guessing that some and perhaps most generic drugs work for some and perhaps most people. But how effective can that possibly be for our health????
Shari Dunsworth
I have been a nurse for 27 years & I’ve given patients alot of medications in my job. Some would tell me about effects of generics & I would think “no way, the companies must offer an exact duplicate” Oh how wrong I was.
I have a heart condition Ive had since I was 16 yrs old. It’s a heart rhythm problem, A-fib with rapid ventricular response, PVC’s & tacchycardia. So I had been on Cardizem ER 120mg for a long time. Then the insurance company said I had to take the generic brand if it was offerred so I received a purple pill of Diltiazem Hcl 120mg(Inwoo) generic for Tizac & I adjusted to the slight differences in it’s performance not too bad. I had a few heart flutters for 3 days then it acclimated to it.
Well then the pharmacy ran out of that generic & substituited it with another generic called Diltiazem hcl 120mg By Purep to replace Cardizem CD, it is a grey capsule. I got it on 2-27-06 & by 2-30-07 I was in the hospital admitted for cardiac instability & I was scared to death, had to undergo some tests like a doputamine stress test with some bubble substance into my veins. The only diffrence in my 30 yrs on calcium channel blocker was that grey pill.
They found no problems except that my calcium channel blocker wasnt doing its job. I went back on the purple generic pill by Inwood & the symptoms again disapeared. I will never accept another generic-generic substitution, it could have put me into a cardiac arrest.
Also in response to Lisa R. posting on Oxycontin generic put out by TEVA. I was on the name brand and had good pain control but with TEVA’s I have had breakthough pain & the time release is not as good. It only lasts approx 8 hours instead of 12 hrs, I know when it stops releasing because I start getting withdrawal symptoms like anxiety and nausea, excessive salivation and tearing of my eyes and nasal drainage. So if your on the TEVA the dr may want to consider changing doses from twice a day to three times a day to avoid the symptoms.
Thank you for your site to allow us to share information. Not all drugs are created equally it seems.
Wendy Ford
Back in 1990 I was diagnosed with a chemical imbalance and was given the drug Pamelor 50mg. I have been on this drug ever since and have had no problems. A couple of years ago the medicine’s cost tripled to $450 a month. The pharmicist suggested I try the generic form because it was only $15 a month. I tried the generic form of it and within 3 days my anxiety and depression showed up again. I immediately went back on brand name Pamelor and have not had any problems since. I do not believe that generic drugs are the same and I will never use them again. I always request brand name only and have my physician write it on all prescriptions.
Gina
I have alway been sensitive to mediactions but my experiences with generics have been a mix of scary and life-threatening. As an asthmatic at one point they gave me generic abuterol puffer – one puff didn’t do anything at all and two was an overdose. I was also doing well on Wellbutrin SR. We tried XL whern it came out but decided that SR just worked better for me. THen the insurance and pharmacy switched me to Buproprion. Needless to say I could have been taking a sugar pill for all the help it gave. At one point I was taking two other antidepressants with it just to stay up enough to avoid hospitalization. My depression is still severe enough to require 2 antidepressants but since my dr petitioned the insurance company for Wellbutrin SR I was able to drop one and my depression is slowly getting better. The buproprion smelled like vinegar and even tasted of it at times. I opened a Wellbutrin SR so the coating wasn’t blockng things and after 2 weeks on the counter it still had no acid smell. Tells me there is something seriously wrong with buproprion.
Joanne
I just called my MD to ask about being switched back to name-brand Zoloft. I’ve been feeling more lethargic since being switched to sertraline, and also have a MUCH greater problem with excessive perspiration. Maybe it’s due to my changed work schedule, but now that I know others have having problems, I’m beginning to wonder.
Kathy Rynearson
I had been on the orginal Ambien for a number of years and had no problems with the medication. When I picked up my latest refill at CVS I was given the generic Zolpidem, manf. by TEVA. My copay was the same as Ambien $50.00 for a 30 day supply, and I was not told I was getting a generic. I started to have chest pains, pressure feeling around my heart, when I went to work out my starting heart rate has been 85 or higher, before taking this generic brand I had to work to get my heart rate up to 80. There is something seriously wrong with this medication. I do intend to see my family doctor today and have BP and heartrate checked, as well as blood work done to see if this medication has caused any other damage.
Farah
I started taking bupropion hcl a few months ago and my life has been a wreck. I was way better off before i took this stuff. I cant stop crying, feel unmotivated and suicidal and angry. I dont understand what is happening to me. I am stopping this poison asap.
sheila Henderson
I just read the comment from “anonymous” concerning generic Rx for Klonopin; “Anonymous states that the generic is not working!
My sister had to switch to generic Klonopin and ended up with a seizure that lasted at LEAST 5 hours(that I counted);
In the ER it took three people to hold her down and get her IV started! I watched her whole body jerk; her eyes were wide open and it was horrid!
When I told the medical person on staff in the ER that my sister’s Psychiatrist demanded that all his patients use BRAND NAME prescriptions ONLY, she seemed incredulous! I told the Nurse that my sister had (more than once) warned me that if she ever had to go on GENERIC Klonopin she might end up in the hospital, AGAIN, as she had tried before (financial reasons). The nurse insisted that being on the generic Klonopin was NOT the cause, as all generics are “The same in every way”; my sister warned me and she (my sister) was right; the generic did not work. Those seizures were the worst thing I have ever seen. Her whole body shook and shook.
Sheila Henderson
Anonymous!
Hi, I’m an FDA employee in the Office of Generic Drugs so I cannot possibly leave my name on this site.
First, no one in my office knows of my mental health issues, plus, for obvious reasons, I can’t make my name public, but I can say that we do work very very hard to ensure that we approve safe, effective drugs. We are thorough, diligent, and extremely careful with all the data we handle. That being said, I know that there are bound to be isolated problems out there. Unfortunately I have come across two on my own.
My problems have been with:
generic budeprion (Teva)
generic clonazepam (Purepac)
Recently my insurance changed and I now get the manufacturer Wellbutrin, but I still get the non-working clonazepam despite my protests. I have a small amount of Klonopin and I break the pills apart to make that bottle last until I figure out what to do. Luckily Klonopin is not terribly expensive so I may just start buying it on my own.
Marlo
Hi Joe and Terri! Here’s my story. A few years ago my endocrinologist prescribed Synthroid to treat my hypothyroidism. Prior to taking the medication, my TSH levels tested at about 7.5. My doctor recommended that my TSH levels should ideally be at levels between 1.5 and 2.5 in order for me to keep from becoming symptomatic. For about a year or so, we gradually increased my Synthroid dosage to keep my TSH levels in the desired range.
While my doctor recommended that I stay on brand when the dosage was increased from .88mg to 1.0 mg, I requested to try the generic form of Synthroid (levothyroxine) because the copay was half the cost (and ultimately became a no-pay co-pay). Over the next several months I noticed that I was once again very fatigued and some of the other symptoms of hypothyroidism were reappearing. When I got my bloodwork checked again, my TSH levels had shot up to 4.5, even though I was on a higher dosage of the generic than I had been on the name brand!
I told my doctor that I wanted to go back on brand, and the problem was solved. Ever since I have been back on the name brand of Synthroid, my TSH levels have remained in check and I am not experiencing the negative symptoms of hypothyroidism. I will never go back on the generic version again!
Diane Drott
A new insurance company switched me from Wellbutrin 300MG XL to Budeprion 300MG XL. Within 2 weeks I was experiencing shortness of breath, feelings of nausea and fainting, hallucinations, lack of energy and motivation. It finally occurred to me that my generic might be causing the trouble.
I asked that my doc switch me to brand necessary Wellbutrin. Within 2 days I noticed a huge difference. Whether some alternate filler is used in the generic that didn’t agree with me, or I might have been metabolizing the generic at a slower rate with increasingly bad side effects or what — I don’t know, but this seriously affected my well being for several months. Please ban this generic or warn users that this drug may react differently for them than Wellbutrin.
Michelle Hall
I was given generic Ambien and it DID NOT WORK–I thought it was just my imagination (and still being awake at 1am) that made me think it wasn’t as effective. After reading these comments, I know it’s not just me!
Jen
Since switching from Wellbutrin XL (300mg) to Budeprion I have noticed the following symptoms: migraine headaches, weight gain, and low energy. Prior to this, I was feeling great taking Wellbutrin XL. Unfortunately, my insurance will only cover the generic version.
Renee A. Mendez
I have been suffering with a depression and had this problem 6 years ago and was on Welbutrin. When this reoccured recently my doctor ordered Welbutrin and the pharmacy gave me the generic budeprion. I kept wondering why my moods were fluctuating. I have episodic interupted sleep, carbohydrate cravings, continued depression and weight gain and increases memory disbubance. The generic definitely does not work for me. My doctor has asked that I be given the brand Welbutrin and my pharmacist is in the process od finding out whether my insurance company will okay it. Michael Moore keep up the good work!
Jill
Just wanted to add my recent experience to this growing list of horrible results of taking the generic Bupropion HCL rather than the brand Wellbutrin XL. I had been stabilized for my depression on 300mg q day since 2004. My last mail order prescription was filled with the generic at the end of April. Within 2 weeks my depression was back in full force with the addition of paralyzing anxiety and agitation. I had NEVER had a panic attack and now had to take Xanax to make it through many days (At my yearly MD checkup I was so visibly anxious, my GP suggested it. I had never taken any kind of sedative before).
In the 2 months I took the generic, I lost 15 pounds. I had to force myself to eat. The early morning awakenings and night sweats happened almost every day. I was miserable & even began cutting my arms for the first time @ 37 because I was in so much agony. I went to my GP and started going to a new therapist because I thought I was really losing it. Then it hit me…could it be the generic? I immediately went and counted how many pills of the generic that I had taken and it was 77, basically coinciding with my descent into the abyss.
I asked both my GP and my therapist if they thought this could be the reason. My therapist had been thinking that the Wellbutrin “pooped” out and just wasn’t working anymore for me and was suggesting that I might need to switch to another med (back to a SSRI which I had taken before and hated because of SE and it wasn’t that effective in treating my symptoms). Then when I told her I had been taking the generic for the past 2 months, she changed her plan. She suggested that I go immediately back on brand and see how I felt.
Well, I have only had 6 brand doses of Wellbutrin XL 300mg and I am completely stable again. I feel like it is CRIMINAL that I had to experience a relapse complete with panic attacks and suicidal thoughts due to perceived cost savings! What will happen when someone kills themselves and their families sue the makers of the generic…where is the cost savings then! I am very fortunate that my insurance will cover the brand for a higher copay. I am outraged to read that some insurers refuse to pay for brand, this has to be changed! I encourage anyone who even thinks the generic could be a contributing factor to their decline, to go back on the brand immediately! There is no need to suffer even one more day. Wellbutrin XL is an amazing medication that has helped so many, it’s reputation is being damaged by this generic! Kind regards, J
Peggy
Generic of Zoloft (Sertraline – Greenstone) doesn’t seem to be working for me, either. After taking it for a few months, I requested brand name Zoloft. (I have to pay through the nose for it, of course, as my insurance pays less toward it.) I was back on the Zoloft for one month when I ran out and decided to try using up some of the old Sertraline (Greenstone) I had, but again I don’t feel it is working and plan to order the brand name tomorrow. In addition to feeling all those “old familiar” feelings of being overwhelmed and irritable, I also experience unusual dizziness, nausea, and headaches — which I think is suggestive of withdrawal.
Sue
I took Welbutrin XL for depression with great results for several years. Then my insurance company switched to the generic. I started having mild anxiety that finally developed into full blown anxiety and crying spells. I didn’t make the connection for a while, but eventually went back on the brand at my doctor’s suggestion. Although I got better very soon after switching back to the brand, it took about two months before the anxiety and crying spells stopped completely.
Lisa Smith
This past Sunday’s article in my newspaper made me realize I wasn’t crazy!
I stopped taking Wellbutrin during my second pregnancy in 2004 and after my son was born, I was happy to learn that the Wellbutrin I had been taking was available in a generic. I was taking Wellbutrin SR, not XL. In about 4 months, I asked my doctor to increase the amount of Wellbutrin I was taking because I was having a hard time dealing with the stress of what I thought was “the holidays.”
Things seemed fine until last September when the drug store filling my prescription switched to a different generic. I had been sad more, quick to blow up and lose my cool…things that had subsided while taking Wellbutrin.
I didn’t realize that all generics weren’t the same until I read one of the articles in the People’s Pharmacy. That was when I began to see the pattern. I continue to take Bupropion SR twice a day, and the negative effects have seemed to subside (maybe my body accustomed itself to it), but I will be certain to watch for changes and quick to request a change back to Wellbutrin.
Melissa
At present I am on generic Wellbutrin and am angry with my insurance company for filling the prescription with generic rather than the real drug. This is the second time this has occurred and I am now stuck with 3 months supply of this inferior version of Wellbutrin.
Jean
I have been on Zoloft since 1998 for Obsessive Complusive Disorder. It took a long time to get my dosing right to reduce my symptoms. I was excited to hear that there was a generic coming out because my co-pay would be much lower. I have never had problems with generic drugs so I did not anticipate any problems.
I was on the generic for about a week when I felt an increase in my anxiety. I did not relate this to the medication and thought it was part of my disorder. I was on the generic for two months and felt I was sliding back into a mental crisis. I had severe anxiety, restlessnes and an increase in obsessive compulsive symptoms. Feelings that I had hoped I would never have to experience again.
I’m not sure why but I considered maybe it was the generic medicine. I spoke with my daughter who is also on Zoloft and she told me she was having the same problems since she started taking the generic for Zoloft. I went to the pharmacy and told them I NEEDED the brand name medication. I got some strange looks but they ordered the name brand for me. (They no longer kept it in stock) I felt I was about to lose my mind.
My daughter and I have both been back on the name brand Zoloft and have had a thankful return to reduced symptoms. I can not emphasize the danger this generic must pose to many patients. Especially those who may be too depressed to recognize the source of the problem. I was fortunate to have a doctor who believed me and a daughter to discuss my suspicions of the generic with.
Generics that are not exactly the same as the name brand can not be tolerated. People’s lives are stake. I can’t believe the mental decline I went through trusting I was getting the same medication I needed.
Martha
I used Wellbutrin successfully for years and was, in fact, one of the testers before it even came onto the market. Later on, my insurance plan called for a generic bupropion.
The pharmacy gave me the one from Eon Labs, which I did fine with for years. Lasst year, I had to switch pharmacies due to a change in work hours and when I went to pick up the first refill from the new place, I noticed the tablet was not the usual mauve-taupe color but white. I asked about it, and they said this one was the same thing, only from Watson Labs instead of Eon.
Well, folks, I spiraled downward into the worst depression since the time I was taking no pill at all. FINALLY I figured out it was the generic from Watson and reported it to my doctor. My pharmacy agreed to order the generic from Eon that had worked well for me, and within three days of taking the old standby I was headed back on track.
ALL GENERICS ARE NOT CREATED EQUAL. It may be one thing to take a generic for some minor issue, but generics that are not using the correct amount of potent ingredients, or are using the wrong mix of potent ingredients, for maladies that can lead to suicidal thoughts should not be allowed on the market.
RON HARTZ
I HAVE BEEN TAKING PROLIXIN FOR ABOUT 25 YEARS FOR TENSION HEADACHES. THE PATENT HAS EXPIRED ON THE ORIGINAL AND NOW IS ONLY AVAILABLE AS A GENERIC. I HAVE TRIED NOT 1 BUT 3 DIFFERENT GENERICS AND CANNOT GET THE SAME RESULTS AS I DID WITH THE ORIGINAL. IF I TAKE EXTRA DOSAGES OF THE GENERIC, I WILL GET SOME RELIEF, BUT I WILL SUFFER SOME SIDE EFFECTS.
Teresa Curran
I have been taking Lotrel for a couple of years and it effectively lowers my BP. This last month, I was given the new generic for it: amlodip-benazepril. Now I not only get headaches but my BP is higher than ever before even without medication.
Leslie
Wow, I thought it was just ME! I started taking Zoloft 7 years ago and felt sooooo much better, it was like night and day. A month or so back, I noticed I was grinding my teeth at night and clenching my jaw during the day. Then I noticed – due to the massive price drop! – that my Zoloft had been replaced. I upped the dose to 2x day instead of once and the symptoms subsided. Am now back to my lower dose, but really don’t feel as if it’s doing anything. Guess it’s time for this uninsured person to get back to the MD, huh?
Joe Krahn
GENERIC DRUGS ARE ABSOLUTELY INFERIOR!! Assertions that generic drugs are just as good are outright lies! Just read the responses here.
Generic drugs must prove the quantity of active ingredient, but there are many other factors that affect a drugs quality. The initial FDA approval is difficult, so brand name companies make the best possible product to get approval. Generics aim for the minimum standards, and you can be sure that anything that is not explicitly required is ignored.
First, we must be concerned with contaminants from incomplete reaction products. Any chemist knows that there are many side reactions, and the effect of this mix of chemical contaminants is ignored.
Second, most drugs are purified into crystalline form. Unfortunately, there are often multiple crystal forms for a given chemical, with different properties that can drastically effect absorption.
Third, generic drugs use cheap fillers, which can also affect absorption accuracy, and can cause other side effects. My wife gets allergic reactions to nearly every generic drug, which we think is due to cheap fillers, but she has only had one such reaction to a brand name drug.
I know that generic drugs can be seriously inferior to brand name drugs. Instead of a political lobby like the Generic Pharmaceutical Association trying to push bad drugs, we need more research into why generic drugs are crap, so that we can work to have good generic drugs.
What I would like to see is brand name “generics”. Just because they are not the original company doesn’t mean we should limit them to being called generic. A given person may have problems (i.e. allergies) with one brand of generic drugs but not another. A user should be able to pick a good brand of ‘generic’. This might also help promote better quality from generic drug makers.
Colleen
Approximately 5-6 months ago, the company that I get my RX from informed me that would no longer cover Paxil CR (which I have been on for 4 yrs) I switched to the generic form Paroxetine and have been feeling the way I used to prior to taking the antidepressant.
I thought I just needed something stronger until I read your column July 10th! I too have painful menstration and had to be put on birth control to help the pain. I never had this problem. I’ve been sad, withdrawn and my face has broken out since.
While taking Paxil CR 20 mg, I never felt this way nor experineced any problems with acne, or especially the menstration issues. My doctor told me there is no real difference between generic and name brand medications but I DO NOT believe him.
Angie
I have been on Synthroid for 12 years and recently through insurance change opted on my own to try a generic thyroid drug. (forgot name) Over a period of a year and a half, my dose was increased 4 times!! I was going through alot of stress with a house build and trying to sell a house, and through it all I started having issues with anxiety. Contributing it to stress, I just treated the stress and moved on.
I wound up in the ER one evening over the stress and they told me my thyroid was off again!! After yet another increase in dosage, 3 months go by and come to find out I was over stimulated with thyroid hormone!! I made the connection, got back on regular Synthroid (back to the original dose before generic started) and after 3 blood tests, I am fine.
I am thinking the inconsistancy of my drug maybe caused me to experience anxiety. I have never had a problem with stress or anxiety. Then again, I have never built a house before!! Things are fine now, I am feeling good, no anxiety, and NO GENERIC THYROID MEDS!!!
Heather Valtier
Thank God I found the article and other comments regarding Budeprion XL. I started on Wellbutrin XL 150 about 2 months ago and was raised to 300 about a week later. When I went for my refill 2 weeks ago, the pharmacy had used Budeprion XL 300. I hesitated and almost had them redo it with the brand name, but didn’t want to wait. Now I’ve spent the last 9 days trying to figure out why I am so nauseous, having headaches and my leg muscles are twitching. It looks like the culprit is the generic drug! Luckily I met with my doctor today and she gave me a new prescription to get another 2 months filled, so I will insist on having the brand name.
Judy Oglesby
I was taking the Brand Prozac for clinnical depression for years. Once it became available, my insurance companies would pay for the generic verson. I have tried various manufacturer’s products of the generic equivalent and each time, my depression became out of control.
The last time I tried it I had to increase the dosage of the genric to get the same results of the brand named product. I am convinced that there is definitly a differnce in the brand vs. generic. Usually insurance cos will prior authorize the brand name product but my insurance through the state of WI makes it very difficult to get a prior authorzation for a a drug that is available as a generic.
Cindy Morris
Thank God I read tonight’s paper and read the Wellbutrin article. I’ve been on Wellbutrin XL for 5 years since my daughter’s death. About 3 months ago, I noticed too, that it was generic. I, too questioned my MD who assured me it was the same, so I took it.
What I feel now, is absolutely awful. I too, started gaining weight for no reason, but I didn’t have the energy to exercise. I can’t even leave the house except to babysit my beautiful granddaughters and lately, more than enjoy them, they’ve been getting on my nerves. I haven’t been to the cemetary, and I always used to go there to plant her flowers and keep her grave up. I don’t even want to do anything I used to find at least somewhat enjoyable. I eat very little, I don’t even get off the couch anymore unless I have to. I cry, I won’t even talk on the phone. My daughter called me too, after she read the article and asked me if I wrote it. I too, just was hoping a bus would run me over, I don’t care right now about anything.
I told my therapist today, if you wire my emotions, they would be flatlined, I have none, don’t care about anything or anyone. I am so glad you all wrote, you don’t know how you have all relieved my mind. I thought it was just me. I told my daughter this morning if I continue to feel this way, I want to just die.
Thankyou to People’s Pharmacy. My late daughter’s birthday is next week and it’s almost like she wanted me to see this, maybe now I can get off this horrible stuff and feel better about life again…..
gary e zajdel
I too am very happy to have discovered this website. I am curious as to other people having similar problems with a generic (TEVA) form of oxycodone 80mg ER.
I have had a series of back surgeries over the past 12 years with another one coming up this fall. As a result, I am in constant unbearable pain. Having been through every form of physical therapy, traction, massage, accupuncture etc…medication management is the only thing that ofers a certain degree of relief. Over the years I have been prescribed every possible medication. None offers the degree of relief that Oxycontin has. Here’s where the “problem” begins.
Originally the patent held by Purdue Pharm was still in effect, thereby guaranteeing all Rx’s were filled Brand name. Eventually, the patent expired whereas my insurance carrier would only cover the generic equivalent. This was fine! For about two (2) years the generic was manufactured by “watson” I am not a chemist/pharmacist but that (watson) generic was the same as brand. No diference.
Unfortunately, about four months ago I was informed by my pharmacy that a new vendor would be taking over (TEVA) and that there shouldn’t be any difference…WRONG!!!… The first thing wrong was that in my 1st fill (80mg ER/120 tablets per month) many of the oblong shaped pills were broken. It clearly states on the label that at no time should one injest any tablet that is broken. It further states that it could be fatal to do so as a large amount could hit your body at once defeating the time release mechanism. I reported this to the drug Store. They told me there was nothing they could do. They said to dispose of the broken tablets. There was 5 of them.
I also noticed that the tablets did NOT seem to offer the same amount of relief. They seemed weaker. The next refill was for two (2) months. A total of 240 tablets. I double checked them at the pharmacy. No broken tabs…BUT…after 40 or so days into the Rx, I noticed that several had become fractured, perhaps from simply picking the container up 2x daily? Again, I do believe this brand is not as effective as watson or Purdue.
If anyone has experienced the same with TEVA oxycodone, please let me know, or just write a note in this forum. THANK YOU: GARY
ps: I have called al the local pharmacies in Buffalo NY…apparently TEVA is the exclusive brand of choice
Lisa R
I have been on Wellbutrin XL300 for over 3 years with great results. My mailorder pharmacy changed me to Teva bupropion HCL XL 300mg on my last prescription. I have been on Impax (Teva) buproprion for 45 days.
Approx 30 days ago I started to experience significant depression, hopelessness, cramps in my legs and ringing in my ears. I have also had fatigue, excessive sleeping and increased appetite. Three weeks ago I experienced vaginal bleeding (I am in menopause) and my gynocologist ordered a uterine biopsy which is negative. I did a web search and have found that my symptoms can be associated with bupropion. I did not experience any of these symptoms with Wellbutrin XL 300.
As of yesterday I am back on Wellbutrin XL 300. I am mailing my prescription to my mailorder pharmacy today with my Dr.’s direction that they cannot subsitute generic. Has anyone else had any cramping, ear ringing, vaginal bleeding or other symptoms in addition to the return of depression, hopelessness, fatigue and weight gain? This site has helped validate that the issues are not “in my head”. Thanks
susan e shaffer
I am having the same problems with Wellbutrin XL 300 mg. I was put on it 3 years ago because my husband and all 3 children got diagnosed with a disabling illness. It was too much for me to deal with and needed help.
OMG! Wellbutrin was wonderful. Since my husband hasn’t worked for 3 years (fighting Social Security – another reason for the meds) we are on Medicaid.
On the first of this year my insurance switched to generic. I had surgery on my ankle on Jan. 9 and didn’t walk or do anything for 4 months. My depression came back but this time it was worse. I had weight gain, mood swings, anxiety, tired all the time, got none of my house work done, etc. I thought it was all from the surgery and being shut up for 4 months in the winter. But I have noticed that even now that it’s summer and I can get out now, I haven’t gotten any better. I asked my MD yesterday to up my Wellbutrin because it didn’t seem to work anymore. He gave me a script for xanax and told me to try that.
I am so glad I came across this site because I thought I was going crazy. Now I am going to call my MD ASAP and try to get back on the name brand. I’m just not sure that Medicaid will pay for it. If it doesn’t, I guess I will have to ask my parents to help pay for it because I can’t take the generic any more. It’s ruining my life and my family’s life.
James
It seems so many people have refused to use Budeprion that the sales are taking a noticible hit.
“Wellbutrin XL. Generic product sales to Teva Pharmaceuticals were less than expected during the second quarter and are tracking well below underlying prescription trends for the primary products in this portfolio. Biovail is working with Teva Pharmaceuticals to better understand this inconsistency and resolve the situation expeditiously.”
Gee, do you think the disappointng sales have anything to do with a terrible product? I hope they lose a lot of money for the hell they put so many of us through. At least word is finally getting out about this toxic mimc.
James
I also had a horrible experience when my pharamcy switched me to the generic wellbutrin (BUDIPERON) earlier this year when it became available. I never thought twice taking about generic drugs and believed them to be true equivalents and I’ve never had a problem. But this BUDIPERON is NOT the same.
I had serious depression, anxiety, and even suicidal ideation like I’ve never had before. I had alot of muscular tension and strange ticks developed around my left eye.
Like i said, I never questioned generics before so it took several miserable weeks before it occured to me that it might be the BUDIPERON. I told my doctor who wasn’t aware of the switch and he immediately called the pharmacy and insisted they give me the name brand. Shortly after returning to the real wellbutrin the bizzare and frightening syptoms went away.
There is no doubt in my mind that BUDIPERON was the cause of the severe worsening of my depression. It should never have been allowed on the market and shoould be banned immediately.
Gary Waldman
I had taken Celexa for years as well as a generic version. When I was switched to a different generic version, it did not work at all causing much distress.
Jennifer R. Ewing
Even within generic brands themselves there can be difficulties. When I was originally diagnosed with fibromyalgia, my doctor at the time prescribed Trazodone for sleep disturbance. The drug didn’t work at all, so I stopped taking it.
Several years later, a different doctor re-prescribed Trazodone. I told him about the problems I’d had the first time; he urged me to give it another try. I noticed the pills were different in size, and had different markings, from the pills I’d had the first time around. This time, the pills worked great! I fell asleep quickly, stayed asleep, and woke up feeling refreshed and not lethargic and painful.
I recently switched mail order pharmacies due to a change in health insurance. The new pharmacy refilled the Trazodone with the original pills I’d had all those years ago. I’ve emailed them to ask about switching me back to the generic I’d been taking, which worked, as opposed to these other generic pills, which don’t. I’m still waiting to hear back from them.
I’m currently reading a fascinating book, “Inside the FDA”. Apparently generics aren’t held to the same testing standards brand-name drugs are, which would certainly go a long way towards explaining why sometimes the brand name really is better.
One more comment about Wellbutrin–the doctor who originally prescribed the non-effective Trazodone pills had also prescribed both Wellbutrin and Neurontin for me, even though he knew I have a history of seizures and I’ve had multiple brain surgeries. When I told that to the doctor who eventually prescribed the effective form of Trazodone, he literally did a double take in his chair. Needless to say, I no longer take either Wellbutrin or Neurontin–I weaned myself off of both drugs after I complained to the first physician that I felt sick on the Neurontin, and his suggestion was to take *more*!
S. Spencer
What a relief to read about the problems with generic Wellbutrin. I thought something was wrong with me. I have used Wellbutrin for a number of years with good results.
Since changing to the generic several months ago, I have noticed many of the same syptoms as others have mentioned. My sleep is disturbed, I have gained a lot of weight, and quickly. I am always hungry. I have become very irritable and short tempered – almost aggressive. I had a stressful situation to manage, and I became an emotional wreck over it – beyond what is normal and what I would have experienced before being switched to the generic. I have lost initiative at home and at work. The thought of exercising seems out of reach.
I am going to switch back to Wellbutrin asap. I’m only sorry I didn’t put the pieces together before the damage was done.
Erika
I’m reading all of these comments concerning the generic version of Wellbutrin XL and I’ve experienced the very same side effects: sudden weight gain, nauseau, migraines, anxiety, excessive sweating,and severe depression. This is really scary! Please pass this on to the FDA or to anyone who can get Bupropion off the market ASAP!!!
Rene
I’ll add my experience to the long list of generic Wellbutrin nightmares. I’ve never given my input on the internet, but Budeprion seriously needs to be investigated! Because of family history, and the genes I inherited from my grandmother (thanks!), I need to be on an antidepressant for life. I started with Zoloft about 5 years ago, but didn’t like the sexual side effects.
My doctor switched me to Wellbutrin XL, which I’ve been on for about 3 years, and like everyone else, it’s worked wonders. I’ve always taken generic medications, and they’ve always worked fine (mostly antibiotics). So when my pharmacy gave me Budeprion XL 3 months ago instead of Wellbutrin XL, I thought nothing of it.
Within the first week, all of my symptoms, and then some, came back. At first I passed it off as worse-than-usual PMS, but when the symptoms got worse instead of going away, I knew something was up. By the end of the month’s prescription, I was extremely moody and irritable, couldn’t sleep, couldn’t think or communicate rationally, was gaining weight despite eating less, had absolutely no interest in my husband or children, felt completely overwhelmed by even the slightest thing, and felt like I was emotionally and mentally being sucked into a black hole. I wanted nothing more than to physically crawl into that black hole.
I had problems before starting antidepressants, but I never FELT this bad! I could hardly get myself off the couch or out of bed, and I had to force myself to eat. Whenever my family (gently) asked if I was feeling okay, or if they could help, all I could do was lock myself in the bathroom, lie down and curl up on the floor in a corner, and cry.
I had never given serious thought to suicide before taking Budeprion, even during my worst episodes as a teenager. But by the end of the month of taking this medication, suicide was starting to look like a good way to escape this nightmare. Thank God I hadn’t yet got to the point where I could actually do something so selfish.
My next refill was the name brand Wellbutrin again, without my requesting it, which puzzled me, but I didn’t care enough at that point to ask why. Within 2 weeks of taking the Wellbutrin again I realized I was having no more thoughts of suicide, had my appetite back, was sleeping better, thinking clearer, and just generally felt SO much better. My kids said they felt like they had their mommy back. The following month’s refill was Wellbutrin again, but I forgot to ask the pharmacist why I was given the generic that one time.
Yesterday I picked up this month’s refill, didn’t check it until I got home, and (yikes!) it’s Budeprion!! There’s NO WAY I’m taking that stuff again! The pharmacy is closed today (Sunday), so I’d rather skip a couple doses and get the real thing on Monday. I don’t think they’ll switch it out, even though I didn’t open it, so I’ll probably end up paying the full price out-of-pocket. But I don’t care; I need something that works, not something that exacerbates the condition!
I think this is serious and widespread enough of a problem that Budeprion should be taken off the market until the FDA figures out why it isn’t working. Out of the HUNDREDS of posts I’ve read regarding this med, only ONE person stated that it worked for her. I feel strongly enough about this to start contacting people and get something done; I urge others to do the same. The more people who cause a commotion, the more likely it will get proper attention. The FDA needs to take a closer look at this stuff before someone pays the ultimate price because the insurance company wants to save a few bucks.
If anyone reads this before they’ve taken the generic for Wellbutrin, PLEASE consider the experiences of many others. Until the generic is changed to something safe and equivalent to Wellbutrin, have your doctor insist on the name brand for this prescription – no substitutions! It would be better to take nothing at all than to take something that will likely make you feel worse. This stuff is dangerous; don’t risk it. For the sake of saving some money, it could cost you your life. What’s your priority?
Anna Foster
It is a big relief to know that the cause of my recent irrational behavior and lack of energy is because of being changed to Budeprion xl! I have suffered from depression for many years and always did very well on Wellbutrin. My story is the same as so many others, my Insurance switched me to the generic and my symptoms of depression have returned with a vengeance! I have not talked to my doctor or Insurance Co. yet but will do so immediately! The generic version is NOT the same! It should all be flushed down the toilet!
Helen
I also have been on Ambien for nearly a decade. And I thought that the generic would be the same as the original. But it is not — I have a minimum of 2 hours of sleep and then I wake up. So I am now taking 2 pills a night and still don’t feel rested. I will be calling my doctor Monday AM after reading all the other comments. I was told by my doctor last month that if you get Ambien CR and crush or break it — it works the same as the regular. For those of us who need to buy it with our health insurance, because my policy no longer allows me to buy the non-generic version.
Kim
I was not going to add my experience to the long list of those who had difficulty with the generic form of Wellbrutin XL, but my boyfriend said it was important for you to hear all of our stories. I too got switched to the generic and it was one month of hell. My world crashed and suicide began to feel inevitable. Fortunately, between my psychologist and my clinical nurse specialist, we determined that the issue may have been the generic drug. Within 3 days of returning to Wellbrutin XL, my life was returned to me. This was a VERY scary experience! I now have to pay $45/month instead of $10/month, but I really don’t have a choice. I feel that this particular generic is dangerous!
Maria
I had to switch from Celexa to the generic, which did not work well. My pharmacist said to report this to my doctor, as he had heard the same complaint from other people. My doctor upped my dosage to see if that would help and for economic reasons I’ve stayed with the generic. I think this has slowed down my recovery.
Debbie
I have been taking brand name Toprol XL for quite some time without any problems. Last week, I ran out and my doctor phoned in the refil for a generic prescription. I received Metoprolol ER. I took it for 7 days – this is absolutely NOT the same. I have a blood pressure cuff wich records my last 100 readings. During about the first 12 hours after taking it, my blood pressure was way too low. During about the last 12 hours, my blood pressure was much higher than it ever was. I am on my way now to pick up a new prescription for the brand name, at an additional cost to me, of course.
Beverly Morgan
I have been successfully taking Wellbutrin XL for about 5 years. Around the middle of March, my mail-order pharmacy changed my prescription to the generic bupropion hcl by IMPAX (Teva). Although I was immediately nauseated by the smell of the pill, I did not anticipate any other problems. All of the symptoms of my depression returned–sadness, hopelessness, lethargy, slow digestion and reflux, weakness, weight gain. Typical of depression, I blamed myself for the problems. When I read in the newspaper about other people having similar experiences, I immediately notified my doctor. After a complete physical, my doctor wrote another precription indicating “brand name medically necessary.” I am slowly beginnning to feel better, but now, once again, I must start over on my exercise program, lose the weight I gained, and get the relux under control. In addition, I am waiting over the July 4th holiday for the results of my breast biopsy that I had on Monday. Is there a connection with the generic?
My husband experienced similar problems when he began taking the generic, and he blamed it on his job. Even when his doctor indicated “name brand medically necessary” on a new script, the online pharmacy still sent the generic. When he questioned the pharmacy about their mistake, they sent the name brand for 5 times the price of the generic, but they refused to give us a refund for the generic.
K
I also had a terrible experience with generic Wellbutrin. Back on brand for $145 at Walgreens but immediately feel better. I am going to tell my Dr, the pharmacists and anyone else I can this needs fed investigation.
SK
Can I tell you all how glad I am I found this site. I am sitting in the dark, crying for no apparent reason. But, the more I cry, the better I feel..so I just keep crying. It occurred to me that I havent done this in a while. Among many other things…I’m a COMEDY WRITER for crying outloud!!!!
I JUST called CVS…at 3:35am…to have the my NON-GENERIC Wellbutrin XR filled so that I can pick it up first thing in the morning. Of course I thought the generic would be just as good…and it was only $8.00. Well, I saved $15…but I have been sitting in the dark listening to the saddest sad songs I could find for two nights in a row! I’ve had Mariah Carey’s “Outside” on repeat for the last 20 mins. I’m clearly not sleeping anytime soon, so let me find a link to the lyrics so you can see what I’m dealing with…
http://www.lyricsdepot.com/mariah-carey/outside.html
RANDOM!
I’ve been on XR for at least 5 years. I tried the generic SR and that didnt work, so I dont know why I was dumb enough to thing the XR would be any different. I am, for all intensive and practical purposes…USELESS…and have been for the past three weeks. Looking back on it now…I’ve had a perfect “Text Book” depression since I switched medications.
My house is a wreck. One of my friends called to ask me to go out, and I told her I needed to stay in and clean a bit because I was afraid the people from DHEC were going to come put yellow caution tape around my kitchen. I told her that my house looked like I was depressed. I KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE! It looks like I came home after barely making it through the day at work, and sat in one spot until it was time to go to bed! Just about every dish, spoon, knife, fork, etc. I own is in the sink waiting to go in the dishwasher. I just couldnt be bothered with any of it.
In addition to that…I have made some really ‘questionable decisions’ at work lately. When I think about it now…I think that I was just being paranoid…and maybe everyone in my department WASN’T plotting against me. And…I REALLY lashed out at this chick at work (and questioned her mother’s…and grandmother’s parenting skills) because she was clicking her gum. Granted, she should know better…but I’m not the world police.
Taking this medication has been the closest thing I can think of to PMS. Ladies…you know how you see that commercial where the dad is dancing at his daughter’s wedding…and you start crying…and you don’t realize until 18 hours later…while you are crying from an episode of NCIS…that it’s PMS. THAT’S what this has been like for me. I thought I was loosing it. I am guessing you might be able to tell that by the fact that I am typing at about 85WPM…and have decided not to edit the stream of thought…just so everyone could see what this PLACEBO has done to me in three small weeks!
I really think this is dangerous. I think someone somewhere should say something about this…because if tens of thousands of people just got switched to generic instead of the normal XR…I cant imagine that all of them realize that they are nervous wrecks…and this so called ‘just as good medication’ is the reason. It seems sooooo irresponsible that drug companies can be allowed to make these claims when they are clearly UNTRUE. Everyone on this message board is taking that same gigantic worthless yellow pill that I am taking…and we are all having the same problems! Is anyone paying attention!!!
I LOVE LOVE LOVE listening to music. It’s the one thing that can put me in a ‘better mood’. For the past three days, I’ve been skipping all of the remotely happy songs…because I was not in the mood for them…but I’ve been avoiding the sad songs…because I’m not sure I can deal with them! “When Sunny Gets Blue” is me right now. I am SOOOOO glad I found this site…and that I’m not crazy!!!
Maybe I will get to sleep before Tuesday…so by Thursday, I can have a normal day again.
I will be at the pharmacy FIRST THING in the morning to get my regular prescription.
I hope…hope and pray that this generic gets taken off the market. I could just as well have taken Flintstone Vitamins.
Thanks for listening…Best of luck to you all. SPEND THE MONEY FOR THE NON-GENERIC!!!!
Just pretend your life depended on it…Mine apparently does.
For EVERYONE who hasn’t had to go through this…would everyone on this site copy and paste their complaint on the FDA’s website??? It only takes a second…and it might save a life…literally. These idiots don’t pay attention to ANYTHING until a few hundred thousand people die. After that, they MAY “add more stringent packaging requirements with BOLD LETTERS”. At least we can say we tried. The e-mails we send will probably end up on the desk of an intern whose only there for the summer…but you never know! The drug companies will not let this drug ‘go’. It is up to us to talk about it…and give it a ‘bad reputation’ so that everyone knows!
http://www.fda.gov/opacom/backgrounders/problem.html
SK!
Jessica Wieber
I have been on Zoloft for 8 years and it has changed my life for the better. Two months ago I was automatically switched to the generic version (IC Sertraline HCL.) Within two – three weeks I started feeling extremely depressed and now experience frequent panic attacks. It is as though I am not even on an antidepressant. I tried to convince myself that it was not b/c I switched to the generic version of Zoloft…but nothing in my life has changed except this prescription. After finding this site and reading others experience with generic versions of SSR’s I am convinced genric Zoloft is non-effective. Thank you for all who have shared their stories…I am calling my Dr. to switch back to Zoloft.
Julie E
I just startred back on Wellbutrin XL only to find I’d been given the generic Budeprion. I was happy to get a generic, as it’s nice to save money, but there’s nothing nice about this. I have terrible headaches everyday. My stomach is terrible. I have chronic indigestion. I am reaping no benefits at all. I’m edgy, whereas I wasn’t before. It’s crazy! This crap needs to be banned!!
Sarah W.
I was diagnosed with chronic fatigue and depression in 2004 and put on Wellbutrin XL. I started to feel relief almost immediately, and within months I felt like a new person. Several months ago I went to pick up my prescription and saw it was a generic, budeprion XL. I immediately called my doctor and he said it would be just the same, so I didn’t think any more of it. But after about 2-3 weeks, my symptoms started coming back, and within a couple months I felt worse than I ever had. I was missing about 3 days of work per week, gained 20 lbs (but was forcing myself to exercise more to stave off depression) and had no motivation for anything. I didn’t even want to leave my house. I was crying all the time and just felt like my life had no purpose. But it never occurred to me that the budeprion xl might not be working because I have taken other generics before and they were fine. Instead I spent the next six months hopping from specialist to specialist to try to figure out what was wrong. I was even told I might have breast cancer! Then about 2 weeks ago my friend, who had been taking Wellbutrin XL but stopped because she didn’t need to anymore, gave me her leftover BRAND NAME WELLBUTRIN XL prescription pills (not the right thing to do, I know, but she was trying to save me money). I started taking them when my month’s supply of budeprion xl ran out and–I am not kidding–withing THREE DAYS I felt like my old happy healthy self again. My appetite decreased, I had a ton of energy, and everyone was commenting on how happy I seemed. I have not missed a day of work since then either. BUDEPRION XL MUST BE TAKEN OFF THE MARKET. I never had problems with generics before but from my experience and everyone else on this web site, it obviously DOES NOT WORK. Do not let your doctor give you the generic–you will feel terrible!
Cheryl
I was feeling really good on Wellbutrin 300 for a couple years – then a little more than 3 months ago my insurance co sent me 90 days of the generic. It was 90 days of hell. I was sick to my stomach and vomited in the morning for no reason. I was depressed, cried a lot, and had a lot of anxiety attacks. I felt like like I had before Wellbutrin. I now have 90 days of Wellbutrin 300 and am starting to feel better, but my insurance co. will not refill unless my Dr. requests it as “medically neccessary”, which I believe she will. It is such a relief to be feeling like myself again, and to know it’s not “just me”.
sheila scardina
I have been on ambien 10 mg for several years. When I went to pick it up at the pharmacy, I was informed that I would be receiving the generic, which I was happy about because it was a little cheaper. I took it at my usual time, 9:00PM and I am usually asleep by 9:30. Well I was still wide awake and I mean wide awake at 2:30 in the morning. I almost felt stimulated, I maybe slept 2 hours that night but the thing I really noticed was that I could not reacall anything from the previous day, I felt like I had amnesia. It was as if I had taken a sugar pill, it did nothing for me except give me the amnesia. These generic Ambien are nothing like the real ambien. I am not going to take any more of the generic pills because they really make you feel bad, not like yourself.
LINDA THOMAS
I was recently taking Toprol XL for a heart rate problem call SVT and was doing fine. Our drug coverage changed and the mail order drug company sent me the generic Metoprolol Succ ER tabs. About a week after starting the generic drug i was awakened at 5:00 am with a heart rate of 188. We went to emergency and they got it under control. This happened 3 times within a 4week period, and finally my husband and I told the doctor the only thing we could think of that had changed was the geneic drug. She immediately wrote a new presciption for brand name Toprol XL. Never had another problem. I understand the generic is a immediate release and is in the system for about 6 hours and that the Toprol XL is 24 hour time release. I am 54 years old without a blood pressure problem, but soem one eldely could have a real serious BP problem on this generic.
cherallynne forcella
I had an awful experience with the Ambien generic. I’ve been taking it for about three weeks. I woke up this morning so dizzy and nauseous that I could hardly walk. I’ve had bad nightmares and just couldn’t seem to sleep deeply for several nights. I also have a burning sensation and itchy skin rash. My husband had to drive me to the doctor’s office because we were both afraid for me to drive after this bad experience. I’ve never had any problem with the ‘real’ Ambien – one half tablet makes me sleep soundly and awake refreshed.
Sara
My insurance company puts pressure on me and on my doctor each time I get a refill of OrthoCyclen. I had been taking it for years but when I tried the generic I had all kinds of cramping and a lot of bleeding. It turned out that I had more secondary expenses than when I paid for the name brand OrthoCyclen. Since then, I (and my doctor) have insisted on the name brand OrthoCyclen. Since then I have been very skeptical about the effectiveness of generic medications.
dalila
I was doing great on Wellbutrin Xl until one day the pharmacist gave me another prescription. I immediately checked online to see if it was the same and it was the generic kind. I didn’t mind until I started noticing that i had gained weight and that terrifies me. It also makes me cry and have a lot of depression. Please don’t give us Budeprion any more. I hate it and feel horrible and my self confidence has gone down. It is certainly not the same as Wellbutrin.
Paulette B
I had a bad experience with Budeprion XL, the generic for Wellbutrin XL. I’ve been taking 300mg of the Wellbutrin XL for 3 years, and decided to switch to the generic to save money. My doctor advised against it. He was right, I was wrong. The generic’s time release isn’t steady. It peaks early and then stops working. After two weeks it stopped working completely. I missed 4 days of work laying on the couch, depressed with no energy. I’m saving the rest of the prescription in case of a lawsuit. It was manufactured by Teva.
Joan Bowes
I was switched to the generic (Buderion made by Teva) for Wellbutrin XL 300mg in March. After a few weeks I began to notice that it did not seem to be working as well as the Wellbutrin from the manufacturer. My daughter said to me one day “Mom did they change your medication?”. I told her just from the orignal to a generic. I finally called my doctor and he said he would put me back on the brand name. I just started today with it but feel that I will be doing better within a week or two.I only wished I had called earlier.
statgrrl
I’ve been on antidepressants for approx. 13 years now and have tried (all with little/no success): Prozac, Zoloft, and Celexa. Prozac=NO SEX, Zoloft=DRYMOUTH, Celexa=HORRID HEADACHES.
I am treated for a combination of clinical depression and ADHD, so I finally got a good doctor who decided to put me on Wellbutrin 300mg XL which has been like a gift from the heavens. I now have my life back and in control and can function as a productive member of society once again.
WARNING: My stupid pharmacy/insurance co. refilled my RX with generic Buprion in March 2007 and when I started taking it, thinking nothing of it until ALL OF MY SYMPTOMS RETURNED WITHIN A FEW DAYS!! It was like night and day – the Buprion is supposed to be the exact same formulation, but I was so severely dysfucntional and depressed that my relationship with my husband crashed and burned, nearly ruining my marriage, since we both had no idea what the hell was going on. I put up with the nightmarish experiment for a month before I pleaded with my doctor to be put back on the pure form instead of the generic. I have been back on the good stuff now for about three months and everything is completely stable and normal once again.
Good news: REAL Wellbutrin really does work!
Bad news: I’ll likely be on it for life and many more people will likely suffer as I did with the effects of a poorly-manufactured facsimile as more pharmacies randomly substitute without warning. I’d like BethG to please post a link or other information to the place where people can log formal complaints with the FDA so we can all be heard and eventually force the FDA’s hand to take action.
GARY L MCKNIGHT
I have been taking questran one scoop daily, i was to cholestyram my I.B.S went wild i called my Dr. He said it was the same thing. I tried to call mfg. Sandoz they are not listed in princeton, NJ to tell the co. my problem. I had to get my Dr. To write me a new Rx. for brand name only.
Katie
I have been taking Wellbutrin for 3 years. It has been great. This month the pharmacy switched me to the generic and I feel like I’m developing gastric ulcers. I didn’t make the connection until tonight when my stomach was fine until I took the generic wellbutrin. I will never take it again. The pain is so severe I thought I would have to go to emergency . This stuff should be taken off the market TODAY.
Jennifer
It’s strangely a relief to read all these comments. I had been taking Wellbutrin XL for about a year, very successfully. Then in February, the pharmacy filled it as Budeprion XL. I am on a high deductible health plan so even this generic is $122.74 PER MONTH.
I’ve been taking it for several months now, and things have just been going steadily downhill. I didn’t want to recognize that the symptoms of depression are back, but I just couldn’t understand why I am so unhappy. I even started crying in a bagel store when a senior citizen cut in front of me in line! Ridiculous. I slowly came to the realization that perhaps my faith in generics is misplaced, and maybe the symptoms really are back because the Budeprion isn’t working.
After a few google searches, I found this site (and a healthboards message board) and I just started bawling in relief — it’s not all in my head, and it’s not my fault. The drug really isn’t working the way it’s supposed to.
Now I have a 60 day supply of Budeprion (cost $244) that I guess has to be trashed, and I need to come up with more money for Wellbutrin and perhaps another doctor consultation ($250).
It’s only money, and I HAVE to go back to Wellbutrin. This morning I had the thought that if a car hit me while I was riding my bike at least I wouldn’t have to go through life anymore :(
SNS
I had been taking Wellbutrin XL 300 for several years. I was astonished when I got my refill and the pharmacy and insurance company took it upon themselves to give me the generic Budeprion XL 300mg(TEVA), thus overriding my doctors written prescription. I have been taking the generic Budeprion for almost a month now and have notices a big difference. My symptoms are coming back fast. I’m always sleepy, I gained weight, I am very irritable, cranky and just don’t feel like doing anything anymore. I contacted my insurance company mail order pharmacy and had my doctor call in a prescription for the brand name Wellbutrin. Unfortunately, I was informed by the insurance company that it is going to cost me $275 for a three month supply because not only do I have to pay my copay, but they add in the price difference between the brand and generic. I was floored!! Needless to say, as much as I would like to pay out that money, I just can’t afford it. I had tried quite a few anti-depressants before Wellbutrin and they all made me sick to my stomach. And it never subsided over time (like I was told it would). The last one (Lexapro) made me have horrible headaches and severe vomiting. Who wants to have that???
I have made an appointment with my doctor to discuss other options because I can’t afford the brand, but the generic doesn’t work. I don’t know what else to do. It’s also good to know that I’m not the only one that thinks this generic is a bust. I have tried other generics and never had a problem, so I wanted to give the generic Wellbutrin a shot. What a waste of time and money (thank goodness it was only $10)!!! It definitely needs to be pulled off the market!!
TAMMY PATTERSON
I RECENTLY WAS GIVEN A REFIL FOR MY AMBIEN AND FOUND IT WAS THE GENERIC VERSION ZOLPIDEM (teva) I HAD BEEN ON AMBIEN FOR NEARLY 7 YEARS NOW, AND WAS ALWAYS ABLE TO SLEEP, OFTEN ON JUST HALF A DOSE OF THE 10 MG, HOWEVER I HAVE BEEN ON THE GENERIC OVER A WEEK, AND HAVE NOT SLEPT YET. I AM TIRED ALL DAY, FEEL SOMETIMES OUTSIDE OF MYSELF, AND HAVE BEEN VERY UNCONFORTABLE AND TIRED. THERE IS NO WAY I AM ABLE TO BELEIVE THIS IS THE EXACT SAME MEDICATION.
suzanne landry
i was just switched to generic zoloft today i notice a big difference i am jittery and feel high and dizzy and just panicy…… i am going to the pharmacy tomorrow, i refuse to take any more of this stuff by mylan.
TH
I’d been taking TEVA nefazodone for quite a while without problems, but then one refill I got seemed to cause heart palpitations. The palpitations started the day I got this refill, and stopped within a couple of days after I stopped it.
I’d told all the doctors that the palpitations started with the refill, but only one of them suggested I go off the medication to see if that was the cause. This after about 3 weeks of trying to diagnose the cause, a Holter Monitor, and a trip to the emergency room. The cardiologist confirmed these were Frequent Premature Ventricular Contractions (several per minute, continuously).
I submitted two reports to FDA’s MedWatch, but I’ve not heard back from them. At the recommendation of Marvin Shepherd, safedrugs.org, I contacted TEVA. They were not convinced it was a quality problem, nor did they seem inclined to do any internal testing or testing of the remainder of my prescription. I sent the remainder of the prescription to the People’s Pharmacy for testing. I’m anxious to hear the results.
Carol T
I have been on Ambien for many years for insomnia related to fibromyalgia. About 2 weeks ago, my pharmacy changed it to the generic zolpidem. I have been having a lot of trouble sleeping and thus more pain with the fibromyalgia. Called the pharmacy and they said they couldn’t do anything and to call the doctor to get it written as “dispense as written”. The doctor’s office said I should call the pharmacy. What a run around. What can a person do?
Diane D.
I had been on Wellbutrin XL for a couple of years & doing very well. When my mail-order prescription plan substituted the new generic I noticed a difference after just a few days. My depression has steadily been getting worse & I will try to budget enough from now on to pay for the real thing. The generic simply does not work. I was quoted $250.00 for a 3 month supply of Wellbutrin XL 300mg.
Doreen
I recently switched from Cymbalta to budeprion (I was using the Cymbalta for depression and chronic pain) and am experiencing extreme anger, agitation and am on a emotional roller coaster with suicidal thoughts. I was doing well on the Cymbalta but had some weight gain from it and wanted to change. I came online to research budeprion and found many people experiencing the same problems with this generic form of Wellbutrin as I am. I am stopping the budeprion today!
I have an appointment with my doctor in a week and will discuss the problems with this drug with her then.
Amber Sitz
I was amazed at all of the comments concerning the generic form of Wellbutrin. My doctor prescribed it for me about a year ago to help quit smoking. The first few days were fine, and then I started to notice that I couldn’t sleep. After about two weeks I became only what I can classify as insane. I was up at 2 a.m. talking to a man in my living room who wasn’t there. My husband came into the room and said I never even looked in his direction. He then picked me up and put me in a tub of cold water. Only after he did this, did I snap to. Needless to say, I immediately quit taking the medicine! I have no history of any form of mental problems and can not understand why a drug like this would even be put on the market!
Mike
I’ve been on Wellbutrin and Wellbutrin XL (300 mg)for several years. It has really helped my ADD and made life much easier. After hearing about the generic for Wellbutrin XL being available, I asked my doctor to switch my prescription to save money. I’ve been on the generic for about a month. I haven’t noticed much difference (gained some weight, some trouble sleeping), but my wife has noticed that my ADD symptoms have gotten worse. I’m less attentive, more forgetful and more anxious. I’ll be switching back to the brand-name now that I am aware of the generic’s short-comings. Who woulda’ thunk?
Allison Fleming
My doctor prescribed Ambien and my pharm. gave me zolpidem tartrate. I have been up every two hours then just gave up and got up at 4a.m. I should have been given the drug I ordered.
The same thing happened with Percocet. I got endocet. It does not work.
Jon
I have to echo the complaints others have had with the Budeprion XL. Wellbutrin XL has worked for me for a couple of years, and about three months ago I switched to the generic. I didn’t notice a difference at first, but gradually my depression returned to its former heights (or depths, really). This morning I had my regular med check-in with my doctor, and he told me that about 75% of his patients who’ve switched to the generic have suffered increased depression. I just picked up some Wellbutrin, and I hope to see some improvement over the next couple of weeks.
CHRIS
I was taking Wellbutrin XL 300 for about 8 months and felt very good. about 45 days or so ago i was switched to the generic Bupropion by the Pharmacy. i had noticed that my depression had come back and i was having daily headaches constant up and down feelings, feeling hopeless and lethargic, drowsey, stomach and digestive problems, as well as some other side effects, and did not care much about anything. i called my doctor this past Monday to explain it to him and he wrote a new prescription for the name brand Wellbutrin XL 300. I started on it on Tuesday and have been feeling better since, not all of the way back, but much better. I don’t think that the generic is released in the same way and I hope I don’t ever have to take it again. Until I searched the internet over this past weekend, I did not even think it could be the generic Bupropion may be causing the problems.
Deb
After some devastating life events last year my husband and I were put on Wellbutrin to help us come through it and it was very effective. Not long ago we were switched from Wellbutrin XL to the generic. We both inexplicably gained weight, he got night sweats, I’m experiencing insomnia, and we are both more anxious and depressed. I’m sorry others have had to go through this, but glad to know it isn’t all in my head as my Dr. seems to think. The generic costs $10 for 30 at Walgreens and I was told it would be $110 for Wellbutrin. Who can do that?? The generic is ineffective and could cost someone their life. Is anyone out there listening to what people are saying?
Lisa Schrader
Since starting Generic Wellbutrin XL, Budeprion XL, several months ago I have noticed a change in the way I feel. Many of the symptoms of depression have returned. Symptoms that I have not felt in a very long time. I don’t care about anything. I am functioning at a basic level to just get through the day. I don’t experience joy. I don’t want to get off of my couch. I don’t care that my normally spotless house is beginning to look like a pigstye. I go through all of the logical arguments with myself to try and get motivated but none of the behaviour techniques I’ve learned in therapy over the years have helped. After hearing of problems with Budeprion XL I have contacted my doctor so we can change my meds around to find some kind of relief if my insurer won’t let me go back to the name brand. I hope the FDA pulls this stuff off of the market before it causes someone to committ suicide.
Michele Paquette
I have been taking Wellbutrin XL 300mg for a couple of years and felt really good. I was happy and energetic. About 3 or 4 months ago I was given the generic budeprion XL. My depression came on full force and then some. I was crying, feeling hopeless and discouraged. My appetite was insatiable and I put on 10 lbs quickly. I have my own business – which I love and I was finding it hard to even carry on with that. I found that I was sitting and watching TV instead of enjoying life. I visited my doctor and he was surprised that I was taking a generic and he promptly gave me a script for Wellbutrin XL. Since this was in the last day or two I cannot say if the Wellbutrin will put me back on track but I have a sneaking suspicion that I am going to find a major difference.
Dawn
I started up on Wellbutrin for the second time. On 150mg, no problems. When I went up to 300mgs, the pharmacy gave me budeprion instead of brand. I steadily deteriorated into a suicidal crisis. I had never been suicidal before! My therapist (coincidentally) gave me a new prescription for brand and within a week, I was better. I have no doubt it was the budeprion.
Diana
The pharmacy substituted generic amplodipine for Norvasc…I wasn’t expecting anything different, but I feel tired, queasy and my blood pressure is up. I called the pharmacy and they say that it is identical to Norvasc. What’s up?
Dot
I have taken Ambien and now that the generic is out, I’ve been trying it. It just doesn’t work like the brand name. I usually only need to take 1/2 of a 10mg and I’m tired and can get a full nights sleep; not so with the generic brand.
Kathy Hackett
I had been taking Ambien for a number of years with no side effects. When given the generic form of Ambien, I woke up an hour or 2 later, with horrible nightmares, was so dizzy that I had trouble walking, and had horrible diarrhea and urge to urinate. I took the generic form for several days before putting the side effects together with the generic form of Ambien. I only took the generic form for 5 days, I then returned the pills to the pharmacy, and got the brand name of Ambien. The symptoms were alleviated immediately. I did report the occurance to the pharmacy and the FDA.
Jayne Horner
I have been on Wellbrutin for quite a while. I tried the XL which gave me more energy & the depression lifted. Then the generic came along. I questioned it but I tried it. It did not work the same!
Budeprion XL 300mg tablet should be taken off the market. I suffered with depression, stomach aches such that I thought I was having a gallbladder attack.
I went back to the Wellbrutin & have been back to normal. It excelerated my Gurd reflex so much I had problems for 6 weeks afterwards! It doesn’t look the same nor does it work the same. I think it is wrong for pharmacy to request you to change just because the generic just came on the market. My prescription said Welbrutin XL & had to get another script DAS.
Johanna Olivier
I have been taking generic Zoloft 50 mgs for the last 10 years. In November of 2006, my insurance company said i had to take the generic. I absolutely hate it. I am tired all of the time. It tastes awful and dissolves in my mouth before i can even swallow the pill. Tonight I am upping it to 100 mg to see if it will work any better. I am also anxious about everything. I just want to lay in bed and close the world out.
Cheryl Butterfield
I was so pleased when I found out that Wellbutrin XL was now available in a generic. I have never believed anyone’s allegations that a brand name was inferior to the generic…until now.
When I first made the change, I suffered dyspepsia, for which there seemed to be no cause. I have progressively become more depressed. I’m nervous and irritable. If I get more than 3 hours of sleep, I’ve had a really good night. If anything in my life goes badly, it takes me weeks to stop obcessing about it. They should call the generic Hellbutrin.
Unfortunately, my insurance company provides a three month supply, and I can’t afford to replace the bad stuff with the brand name without insurance assistance.
I asked my pharmacy to supply me with information about the drug they supplied. They told me it was produced by Teva, but were unable to supply lot number or other information because they threw away the bottles the pills came in and repackaged them in their own container. Is this good practice? How on earth would they be able to identify products if there were ever a recall? Should I discuss this with the manager of the pharmacy?
Melissa Pappamichiel
I’ve been on Wellbutrin XL 300 mg for a year to treat symptoms of fibromyalgia (depression, fatigue, muscle pain.) The Wellbutrin worked well and I felt better than I had in years.
Last month my pharmacy dispensed Budeprion XL, the generic drug, instead of Wellbutrin. In less than 30 days of being on this generic, my fibromyalgia symptoms have worsened noticeably, I’m very fatigued, and I’ve gained ten pounds (even though my diet and exercise programs haven’t changed.) Honestly, it feels like I’m not taking any medication at all right now. Budeprion XL simply isn’t effective.
My insurance covers Wellbutrin (at a higher co-pay), but obviously is pushing pharmacies to dispense the generics whenever possible. That’s fine if the generic is effective, but in my case it simply doesn’t work. I’ve asked my pharmacist what I need to do to get back on the name brand Wellbutrin and am waiting for his return call.
sandra hoskins
I have been on Zoloft for 6 years. I too say it saved my life. Two mths. ago I was switched to generic. It was awful, all symptoms reappered and i was in a constant state of panic. I have panic disorder and severe depression
I have been back on name brand for three days and wish that the generic would be taken off market. It has caused me to be in a terrible state for one mth.
Kathleen Dworak
I was prescribed the generic version of Darvocet-Propoxyphene- for pain after a root canal. I felt like I had taken absolutely nothing. No pain relief, no expected drowsiness- nothing. I’m very sensitive to most medications, and I was very surprised not to feel any effects of the medication at all.
Susan Dwyer
I also take 150 mg of Wellbutrin XL. I have twice been on the generic form and I get very depressed on it. It has very little therapeutic value. I have to pay the difference between Wellbutrin and the generic, and runs me about $45 per month, but it is worth it. I am another person who is very sensitive to any medication, and I take 1/2 a dose of Wellbutrin and 1/2 dose of Effexor (which I squeeze a few of the little particles out of the capsule), but that handles my depression. I also can only tolerate 2/3 of a Norvasc tablet. I sure hope someone takes notice of the Wellbutrin generic problem.
CQ
I have suffered from mood disorder and severe depression for fifteen years. I have tried thirty different types of psychotropic medications during that did not improve my quality of life. I began taking Wellbutrin in 2001 and I was finally able to have control over my mood and lessened my depression. About 2003 I began to recover completely. I maintained the Wellbutrin at a low dose for the past several years and have been very happy with the results. This past September I was told that my insurance company had changed their formulary and that the now available generic Budeprion was the only drug that they would cover. After two months I felt like something was terribly wrong. My depression came back with a vengeance. I also experienced stomach aches, headaches and vomiting and became very sleepy. In January I began to feel suicidal and severely depressed. My physician appealed the insurance company for a third time and was still denied. I have purchased brand-name Wellbutrin from other sources and have been back on it for three months.I feel much better with energy and drive to live my life. My depression has gone back into remission and my job, my personal and family life are much improved. Wellbutrin is a medicine that keeps me alive and even though I have to spend a lot of money and actually break the law to obtain it-I will continue to do that so that I do not become suicidal again. I pray for the day when psychotropic medications and mental health issues are given the same fairness as physical health problems.
JCG
I’ve taken Zoloft for about ten years and credit it with saving my life. Last refill was a generic which, I assumed was the same. As the weeks rolled on, I became aware of all the pre-Zoloft symptoms recurring. Since I was faithfully taking the generic, I thought I must really going insane. A People’s Pharmacy column on the subject of others’ generic problems sent me to a pharmacist. She agreed, saying that she has had several complaints about the problem.
Kathy Coulehan
My experience with Budeprion XL was terrible. I had been taking Wellbutrin with which I experienced no problems.. Budeprion wrecked my normally happy self. It had me wanting to cry at work–not like me at all! Worse yet, I couldn’t sleep. I realize not sleeping is a side effect of Wellbutrin, but I never had problems with it. After 3 days I quit and am fine.
Mara
I was just browsing the internet for information on the differences between WellbutrinXL and the generic, and I was relieved to find all of these comments that back up the way I have felt in the past month of taking the generic. I found extreme differences in mood, particularly anxiety (the reason I was put on the medication) that had not been present before switching. I experienced very bad headaches and changes in my menstrual cycle despite the fact that I am on oral contraceptives. I also found that the medication made me far more hungry (though, I suppose that could be attributed to the change in menstrual cycle). In general, I just felt depressed in a way that I had not felt since taking the name-brand medication for nearly 8 months. I am relieved to find others experiencing similar things, as I was becoming nervous that the medication was no longer “working”. As for requesting the name brand, I just asked my pharmacist directly, they can check for you immediately if your insurance will cover it. As mine did, I plan on requesting only name brand.
Howard Mundy
I started off on generic Wellbutrin which brought on episodes of projectile vomiting that came with about 10 seconds warning.
Turns out my Medicare HMO covers Wellbutrin XL brand name. I changed to the brand name and had no more vomiting
Sherry Marshall
I had been taking Zoloft for almost 7 years and felt great. I was switched to a generic zoloft 6 weeks ago and I totally went down hill. I struggle to sleep, wake up in a panic state- I had 3 panic episodes just last evening. I went to my doc today and demanded to go back on real Zoloft.
Carolyn Robertson
I was switched from Wellbutrin XL to the generic about 4 months ago. I have tried to ween off of all depression meds before and it only takes a few months and it returns. The generic is no longer working at all. I have a hard time getting off the couch and motivating myself to do the simplest of things. I just called the pharmacy and I have to wait another 2 weeks to switch back.
TS
Only the name brand Syntroid works for me; and a lot of my friends that take thyroid medication can only use the name brand like myself. The generic brands are like placebos…they don’t work. Why can’t a generic drug company step up and get the formula right? I’m all about saving money, but generic drugs that don’t is just stupid.
Johnny
It was suggested by my therapist that I try Wellbutrin XL for depression and anxiety. So my Dr. gave me a two week supply of the 150mg tablets. I increased my dose to 300mg after the first week. I couldn’t believe how great I felt, it was awesome. Then my samples ran out and I picked up the prescription and it was only $10. Awesome! When I got home and opened the bottle I saw these big yellow horse pills and the name on the bottle was ‘budeprion.’ So I called the pharmacy and my Dr. to make sure I had the right medicine and they said yes, its just the generic version. I took it for 4 days and I was a wreck. I was more depressed and anxious then before. At times I felt like a wired drunk guy. I was also sweating alot. So after some research, I called my Dr. and demanded to be put back on the brand name. This time my perscription cost is $40 because Wellbutrin XL is a Tier 2 drug. Anyways, I started back on the brand name today and I feel 100% better. I don’t care how expensive it is, I’m not going back to the generic version.
PD
My problem was with a generic form of Wellbutrin. I just felt as if the drug was no longer working at all. My doctor believed me and requested the name brand and I was OK.
Elaine Helms
I took Allegra for allergies for years then it was changed to a generic drug. I took it at bedtime just like I did Allegra. The large tablets were almost 2 x’s the size of Allegra and tasted like Formaldehyde smells! As I slept it started coming up into my throat and I’d wake up coughing. It awoke me from a deep sleep every night PLUS they didn’t work! I’m now on Zyrtec and dread the day it too will become a GENERIC drug.
Holly Gelberg
I have had problems with 2 generics. The first time was when I was on synthroid. I have very difficult to control hypothyroidism as my body seems to absorb the medication erratically. I was sent to a specialist who continued to adjust the dose and was finally able to regulate me to within somewhat acceptable levels on synthroid. My insurance company then decided I needed to be put on the generic. After 3 months, my numbers looked like I wasn’t taking any medication-my hair had started to fall out again, my features had become puffy looking again and I felt terrible. I switched to Armour thyroid-no substitutions and I pay out of pocket and I am healthy again.
The second time was this year when generic Wellbutrin came out and my pharmacist changed me as required by insurance. I have been taking 300 XL for years and have been fine. Within 3 days of taking the generic, I was a wreck. It felt like the medication was being released erratically and I was experiencing “rushes”. It was a very unnerving, scary, feeling. I discontinued it and called the doctor, who called the pharmacy and requested no substitutions-of course I pay a premium for this. I do not think that insurers should have to pay higher co pays for “name brand” drugs when generics do not work.
MS
My high blood pressure Rx cost $4 per month at Walmart
and three times that through
our insurance plan – so I went to Walmart and was sold
Mylan generic for Lisonopril
10mg/12.5 mg. I gained 4 lbs
and had dreadful headaches. I switched back to the company generic Lisonopril
and no more headaches.
G. K.
I thought that the generic Wellbutrin (Bupropion) 75 mg BID I take for bipolar had stopped working after my last prescription. I was sinking back into depression and raising the dose didn’t help. I felt better after stopping the drug. Several people had reported problems with the generic Wellbutrin XL, and I suspect the same has occurred for the non-XL generic. Is the FDA paying attention to making certain that generics indeed have the same active ingredients as the brand name drug? If not, then why not?
S.R.
My experience with the generic Valium was so horrible that I hate to send any info about it. It was Diezepam 5mg tablets. After what happened to me, I didn’t think anyone would be interested in trying that particular medication in any generic form. I would never do it again, it robbed me of three months of my life, and that is a price too high to pay for generic. I only wish the pharmacies would listen to a patient with a severe problem like mine and not “force” them to try generic before they will give us the price break.
Some day there will be a death caused by forcing generic meds on people and I hope it ends up in a big law suit. Generic meds have no place in the medical field. They are not what they claim to be and never will be. As you can see I am still very upset over this and I am still having a bad night now and then and wonder if I will ever be back to normal.
My Restless Leg problem is very severe and should be looked at very closely before doing something stupid like making me take generic meds for it. Thanks for listening, I only hope you understand and try to picture yourself going through what I went through. It was pure “hell”.
M.C. in Chapel Hill
A local doctor prescribed Toprol XL (25 mg 2xday) several years ago. All went well. Last week my pharmacist refilled my prescription with generic “metroprolol succinate” — per BCBS senior Plan B. Two days later BP shot sky high – 190/100. Found leftover pill of brand Toprol XL. Hour later, 140/90, high but okay. THERE MAY BE A PROBLEM WITH THIS NEW GENERIC FOR TOPROL XL. This has never happened before.
C.F. in Bel Air
I had been taking Zoloft for about 2 years with good results. Our prescription plan switch me to the generic last year. After 90 days on the generic – I feel depressed and lethargic. Sometimes I even want to take a higher dose. This last winter was awful. I am gaining weight also. I am going to ask my doctor to resume the name brand of ZOloft.
G.E. in Portland
My problem has been with budeprion, which is the generic for Wellbutrin. I have been taking Wellbutrin XL (300 mg) for a while and it has worked wonders for me; recently, however, my insurance provider substituted budeprion for the Wellbutrin XL and my experience has been awful.
Soon after starting the budeprion I started having feelings of despair, hopelessness, disorganized thinking and anxiety, falling into a depression. I have had physical problems as well: migraines of prolonged duration and greater intensity, sleep disturbances, night sweats, rapid weight gain, low energy and abrupt and painful changes in my menstrual cycle.
All of these changes coincide with my taking budeprion instead of Wellbutrin XL. I have just resumed taking Wellbutrin XL (300 mg) and I am already feeling better and thinking more clearly. My experience with budeprion has been horrendous, and I will never take it again. It is my sincere hope that this generic drug will be taken off the market immediately.
F.G. in Greenville
I just had a nightmare experience switching from brand name Wellbutrin 300 mg to the generic “wellbutrin” called Budeprion 300mg. I wanted to add my voice to a long list of others.
I have no history of suicidality, but a day after switching to the generic, I went into a week of steadily rising panic. Then I hit rock bottom this last Saturday. Like some demon took over my body. I wanted to die, felt like someone was holding me by the throat and pressing me against the wall. I was psychotic, self-loathing way WAY beyond anything I have ever experienced.
I made it through the worst of it, called a suicide hotline, took two Ativan, and didn’t take any more of the budeprion. The next day I felt much better and today I’m back to my normal self.
The pharmacists and the drug companies are adamant that the generics are THE SAME. This is, I believe, wrong, and dangerously so.
M.S. in Greenbay
I was taking Budeprion 300 and had serious complications. Within one month of my medication switching to the generic I had a complete nervous breakdown due to the fact that my depression medication was not working. It turns out this medication is not the same as wellbutrin 300 which I was supposed to be on and as a result it was if I was taking nothing. This can not be allowed to continue. I filed a formal complaint also with the FDA.
Beth G.
I have been taking Ambien 10mg for several years on a nightly basis because after a day/night sleep study it was shown that I am unable to sleep for more than an hour or so at a time. Tonight is the first night I took the generic Zolpidem 10mg. I didn’t think much about it, expecting the results to be at the very least SIMILAR to Ambien 10mg. In the past two hours (between 11:00 pm bedtime and 1:00 am)I have dozed off and woken up four times, had two nightmares as well as an hallucination, and have lain awake in bed, twice, with my whole body shaking. Now I am wide awake and am unable to return to sleep. So what do I do now??? This is horrible, it’s like it was when I couldn’t sleep at all, before I started taking any medication. I can’t take anything else at the moment because I’m quite obviously already spaced out to a certain degree. I’ll be calling my doctor tomorrow so he can make my prescription non-generic allowable.
Lisa G.
I had been taking Wellbutrin XL 300 for about two years and it was working great.Suddenly my insurance company said I could only get it in the generic form. Well this is when everything turned into a nightmare. My life felt like it was spinning out of control. I spent many days sitting and crying, depressed to the point that I didnt want to do anything. Despite my doctors orders that I was to remain on the 300 XL, the insurance company changed it to Bupropion 150 twice a day. I’m still wondering how they can just ignore the orders of my doctor.I would love to be able to buy the Wellbutrin at name brand but it is out of my economical reach with out the insurance coverage.